For an explanation of the columns/colors, see this FanPost.
This is a reverse-chronological chart of OHL/WHL forwards selected 21st-30th in the 2004-2014 entry drafts.
Similar to the 1st-10th chart, we see that there was a lot more scoring in the 2014 draft coming from the OHL/WHL than any other draft since 2003.
| Player | Year | Pk | P/G | EV P | EV G | Gx82 | Prim. | Age | %top5 | T-Goal | Height | Adjust | ||
| Fabbri | 2014 | 21 | 1.50 | 1.02 | 0.53 | 64 | 0.88 | 17Y9M | 20.7% | 340 | 5.10 | -8 | x | |
| Bleackley | 2014 | 23 | 0.96 | 0.62 | 0.27 | 33 | 0.52 | 17Y8M | 24.3% | 214 | 5.11 | 0 | x | |
| McCann | 2014 | 24 | 0.97 | 0.27 | 35 | 17Y5M | 18.4% | 267 | 6.00 | -3 | ||||
| Scherbak | 2014 | 26 | 1.20 | 0.74 | 0.31 | 35 | 17Y10M | 28.6% | 207 | 6.01 | 4 | x | ||
| Goldobin | 2014 | 27 | 1.40 | 0.97 | 0.42 | 47 | 0.87 | 18Y0M | 27.2% | 211 | 5.11 | 0 | x | |
| Ho-Sang | 2014 | 28 | 1.27 | 0.91 | 0.34 | 39 | 0.75 | 17Y9M | 25.1% | 249 | 5.11 | -1 | ||
| Quennville | 2014 | 30 | 0.95 | 0.66 | 0.26 | 34 | 0.51 | 17Y6M | 20.1% | 271 | 6.00 | -3 | x | |
| HShinkaruk | 2013 | 24 | 1.34 | 0.73 | 0.36 | 47 | 0.61 | 18Y0M | 26.9% | 243 | 5.11 | -2 | x | |
| Klimchuk | 2013 | 28 | 1.06 | 0.51 | 0.29 | 41 | 0.43 | 17Y7M | 24.2% | 193 | 5.11 | 1 | ||
| Hartman | 2013 | 30 | 1.07 | 0.29 | 34 | 18Y1M | 18.6% | 292 | 5.11 | -9 | x | |||
| Puempel | 2011 | 24 | 1.25 | 0.64 | 0.35 | 51 | 0.55 | 17Y9M | 27.1% | 195 | 6.00 | 3 | ||
| Namestni.. | 2011 | 27 | 1.01 | 0.28 | 36 | 17Y11M | 22.8% | 230 | 5.11 | -2 | ||||
| Rakell | 2011 | 30 | 0.88 | 0.18 | 32 | 17Y5M | 18.6% | 249 | 6.00 | -2 | x | |||
| Howden | 2010 | 25 | 1.00 | 0.71 | 0.32 | 35 | 0.58 | 17Y9M | 21.9% | 243 | 6.02 | 0 | x | |
| Etem | 2010 | 29 | 0.90 | 0.26 | 42 | 17Y4M | 18.3% | 276 | 6.01 | -3 | ||||
| Ashton | 2009 | 29 | 0.71 | 0.29 | 35 | 17Y6M | 13.4% | 227 | 6.03 | 0 | x | |||
| Eberle | 2008 | 22 | 1.07 | 0.63 | 0.36 | 49 | 0.57 | 17Y5M | 25.0% | 217 | 6.00 | 4 | x | |
| Nemisz | 2008 | 25 | 0.99 | 0.28 | 41 | 17Y4M | 16.3% | 279 | 6.04 | -1 | x | |||
| Ennis | 2008 | 26 | 1.30 | 0.80 | 0.40 | 50 | 0.69 | 18Y0M | 30.2% | 234 | 5.09 | -1 | ||
| Foligno | 2006 | 28 | 1.08 | 0.17 | 30 | 18Y0M | 22.1% | 227 | 6.00 | -3 | x | |||
| Downie | 2005 | 29 | 1.20 | 0.20 | 28 | 17Y6M | 21.9% | 223 | 5.10 | -2 | x | |||
| Wolski | 2004 | 21 | 1.06 | 0.71 | 0.30 | 36 | 0.58 | 17Y8M | 26.4% | 180 | 6.03 | 7 | x | |
| Schremp | 2004 | 25 | 1.19 | 0.44 | 0.22 | 39 | 0.32 | 17Y3M | 18.3% | 300 | 5.10 | -6 | ||
| Schremp+1 | 1.45 | 0.71 | 0.29 | 54 | 0.60 | 18Y3M | 19.2% | 310 | 5.10 | -11 | ||||
| Ho-Sang | 2014 | 28 | 1.27 | 0.91 | 0.34 | 39 | 0.75 | 17Y9M | 25.1% | 249 | 5.11 | -1 | ||
| Bailey | 2008 | 9 | 1.43 | 0.79 | 0.30 | 35 | 0.64 | 18Y0M | 23.6% | 279 | 6.01 | -4 | ||
- I didn't run even-strength numbers for Hartman, Namestnikov, Rakell, Etem, Ashton, Nemisz, Foligno, or Downie. Based on the numbers already on the chart, it is unlikely that any of those missing number would be orange or better. (In fact tan is unlikely for any individual block.)... And even if Hartman had an encouraging EV pts/game, he did it on a somewhat stacked team while being one of the oldest pre-draft players.
- Note that the top three for EV pts/game are from the 2014 draft: Fabbri (on a stacked team), Goldobin, and Ho-Sang. The only one remotely close to those three in that stat was Ennis. (In fact Ho-Sang's 0.91 rate puts him ahead of pre-draft seasons of Tavares, Stamkos, EKane, BRyan, Landeskog, and others. So it's an impressive statistic-- almost impressive as his EV pts/60 number.)
- Ho-Sang's EV goals/game rate is solid. (But it was his EV assists/game rate that was spectacular.)
Weighing all of this information together (with emphasis on points/game and EV goals/game), I would order the players something like this:
Goldobin (Great numbers on a team that didn't score much. He did play a ton of minutes, though.)
Fabbri (Although his team was so loaded that it is difficult to place him exactly.)
Ennis (Yes, he is under 5'10", but his scoring numbers were great, and %top-5 through-the-roof.)
Puempel (Edges out Ho-Sang based on these numbers, IMO. Just had 30 goals in 74 games in AHL.)
Ho-Sang (The next chart would probably give Ho-Sang the boost over Puempel, if we had Puempel's per-60 #s)
Shinkaruk (Numbers put him close to Ho-Sang and Puempel. Missed most of last season due to a bad injury.)
Eberle (The 0.36 EV goals-per-game rate is very strong. Scored a good # of PP goals too.)
Wolski (His team scored an extremely low 180 total goals. In light of that, his 0.30 EV GPG is strong.)
Scherbak (Decent scoring stats on a low-scoring team.... Virtually a tie with Wolski.)
Howden (6'2" and some scoring promise. 6 pts in 16 games last season in NHL. Mixed possession numbers in his 34 games.)
The rest of the players on this chart do not look appealing to me by these numbers. That's not to say that they won't succeed in the NHL. (Downie and Foligno each found a niche.)
So in a somewhat objective analysis, I'd place Ho-Sang 5th out of the 22 OHL/WHL forwards drafted 21st-30th from 2004-2014. Sounds good, especially considering he was taken 28th overall.
I put Bailey's pre-draft and Schremp's post-draft season at the bottom to show how Ho-Sang's scoring compare well to each.
This next chart focusses on the OHL/WHL forwards drafted 1st-50th in 2014. Most drafts fall off quite a bit by 50th. This one appears to fall off earlier.... The two new columns I will explain below the chart:
| Player | Year | Pk | P/G | EV P | EV G | Gx82 | EVP/60 | Age | %top5 | T-Goal | TG EV | Height | Adjust | ||
| Reinhart | 2014 | 2 | 1.75 | 1.08 | 0.37 | 49 | 2.8 | 17Y11M | 28.4% | 235 | 163 | 6.01 | 3 | ||
| Draisaitl | 2014 | 3 | 1.64 | 0.98 | 0.39 | 49 | 2.9 | 18Y0M | 29.7% | 243 | 159 | 6.01 | 1 | ||
| Bennett | 2014 | 4 | 1.60 | 1.04 | 0.44 | 52 | 3.5 | 17Y4M | 27.6% | 301 | 214 | 6.00 | 0 | ||
| Dal Colle | 2014 | 5 | 1.42 | 0.78 | 0.34 | 48 | 2.3 | 17Y4M | 24.7% | 232 | 134 | 6.02 | 5 | ||
| Virtanen | 2014 | 6 | 1.00 | 0.73 | 0.46 | 52 | 2.7 | 17Y2M | 20.0% | 287 | 198 | 6.01 | 0 | ||
| Ritchie | 2014 | 10 | 1.21 | 0.87 | 0.44 | 52 | 2.5 | 17Y10M | 25.8% | 233 | 171 | 6.03 | 3 | ||
| Perlini | 2014 | 12 | 1.22 | 0.57 | 0.28 | 48 | 2.1 | 17Y6M | 24.9% | 223 | 128 | 6.03 | 5 | ||
| Fabbri | 2014 | 21 | 1.50 | 1.02 | 0.53 | 64 | 3.4 | 17Y9M | 20.7% | 340 | 234 | 5.10 | -8 | ||
| Bleackley | 2014 | 23 | 0.96 | 0.61 | 0.27 | 33 | 2.3 | 17Y8M | 24.3% | 214 | 152 | 5.11 | 0 | ||
| McCann | 2014 | 24 | 0.97 | 0.50 | 0.27 | 35 | 2.4 | 17Y5M | 18.4% | 267 | 189 | 6.00 | -3 | ||
| Scherbak | 2014 | 26 | 1.20 | 0.74 | 0.31 | 35 | 2.8 | 17Y10M | 28.6% | 207 | 135 | 6.01 | 4 | ||
| Goldobin | 2014 | 27 | 1.40 | 0.97 | 0.42 | 47 | 2.4 | 18Y0M | 27.2% | 211 | 147 | 5.11 | 0 | ||
| Ho-Sang | 2014 | 28 | 1.27 | 0.91 | 0.34 | 39 | 3.0 | 17Y9M | 25.1% | 249 | 182 | 5.11 | -1 | ||
| Quenneville | 2014 | 30 | 0.95 | 0.62 | 0.26 | 34 | 2.4 | 17Y6M | 20.1% | 271 | 183 | 6.00 | -3 | ||
| Lemieux | 2014 | 31 | 0.82 | 0.51 | 0.26 | 34 | 2.3 | 17Y5M | 15.1% | 266 | 162 | 6.00 | -4 | ||
| Hawryluk | 2014 | 32 | 1.08 | 0.76 | 0.27 | 33 | 3.2 | 17Y9M | 22.9% | 271 | 183 | 5.10 | -4 | ||
| MacInnis | 2014 | 43 | 0.56 | 0.30 | 0.15 | 20 | 1.4 | 17Y8M | 17.8% | 200 | 136 | 6.04 | 2 | ||
| Cornel | 2014 | 44 | 0.91 | 0.60 | 0.28 | 30 | 2.3 | 17Y6M | 19.6% | 233 | 171 | 6.02 | 1 | ||
| Pollack | 2014 | 45 | 0.77 | 0.51 | 0.21 | 29 | 2.5 | 17Y7M | 13.9% | 290 | 209 | 6.02 | -4 | ||
| Player | Year | Pk | P/G | EV P | EV G | Gx82 | EVP/60 | Age | %top5 | T-Goal | TG EV | Height | Adjust |
Two new columns:
EVP/60 = even-strength points per-60. (Or rate of scoring at even-strength per 60 minutes of ice-time.)
TG EV = team-goals scored at even-strength (I left the "Adjust" number as-is, so it doesn't take into account that column.)
- On Dal Colle: It's is encouraging to see that his team only scored 134 EV goals. His 0.34 EV GPG looks more impressive. (Bennett was 0.44, but his team scored 214 EV goals to Dal Colle's team's 134.... So perhaps that gap in EV GPG is wider than the scoring talent gap between the two players.)
- So Ho-Sang's EV points-per-60 number edged out Reinhart and Draisaitl, though his team did score a few more goals at EV. Still, 3.0 is very impressive. In fact, that stat may draw his scoring numbers close to Goldobin's overall. (Purely from viewing highlight video, it appears Ho-Sang is a much more dynamic skater than Goldobin, but perhaps Goldobin is one of those guys who just is in the right place on the ice over-and-over to rack up points.)
- Hawryluk has interesting numbers at 32nd overall. Not as good as Ho-Sang, but more promising than most players in the previous chart (drafted in 20s) I'd say.
- This chart perhaps helps explain why Isles traded up from 35th to 28th. After Hawryluk at #32, it appears that the serious OHL/WHL forward talent is gone, though Cornell's scoring numbers are slightly interesting.... I hope looking at MacInnis's scoring numbers makes your eyes sore.
- I wish they had EV points-per-game data before this past season. It would be interesting to see where Ho-Sang places in relation to past draftees. (As I mentioned, his assists per-60 at EV is most likely somewhere in the top-10 among OHL/WHL forwards drafted 1st-30th 2003-2014.... I would bet top-5.)
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