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Islanders Bits: Nabokov's Big Night, Nielsen's Big Extension

Last night's 45-save + 2 shutout of the Flyers was pretty amazing for Evgeni Nabokov, the old dog. But food for thought: Don't judge Nabokov's future based on that game or his past two weeks.

Al Montoya was crowned by fans earlier this season, and Dwayne Roloson was crowned a couple of times over the past two years, and Yann Danis was -- well, never mind but you get the point. I'm doubtful that a meaningful trade opportunity will open up with the goalie market being what it is, but it's the GM's job to at least probe those waters and evaluate his options.

The goofy thing about the Islanders goaltending this year is no one has played enough games for us to really know what they offer, but Nabokov has suddenly played half of the 52 games thus far so his on-ice importance has grown. You're starting to hear people discuss his value on the roster now vs. his value as a trade chip (with a no-trade clause) in a weak market of unknown demand.

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Still, while the Islanders jumped to 11th in the East last night, the four teams behind them area ll closer to them in points than the Isles are to the 10th-place Jets. With Travis Hamonic out for two weeks and Dylan Reese's injury last night looking at least that serious, Nabokov or his net mates will probably need to put up more performances like last night for the Islanders to keep hope alive at the Feb. 27 trade deadline.

There are claims that the trade market prices are soaring [USA Today .. .also with recent deadline deals] and claims that Nabokov's trade value is skyrocketing [PHT], but it's really in the eye of the beholder, isn't it? If the last week were truly enough to change some goalie-poor GM's mind -- and there aren't many of those -- then next week could change it back, could it not? Sell high ... if you have a buyer.

Anyway, my own reservation about the making snap decisions isn't just about trades, it's about the idea of an extension for Nabokov, which bandied about by some fans. Any such talk, whether to trade (and waive his NTC) or discuss re-signing, turns on private conversations we won't see. We'll only know the outcome in about 20 days.

About Last Night: The Game

We recapped the game here. | Broad Street Hockey figures Nabby said his prayers yesterday morning. | Newsday has Capuano reacting to Dylan Reese's injury.

CSN Philly has the Flyers praising Nabokov, and Laviolette on the contrast from the last meeting: "From the last time we played the Islanders where we gave up too many chances and shots, we were able to close it down a bit."

And CBC quotes Nabby:

"They were all decent and quality shots," Nabokov said. "Sometimes you get a rebound, a weird bounce and they go in. That is just the way the game is."

Yes! That's the way this game is. It could've been 3-0 and we'd not be praising Nabokov nearly as much. He knows that's the way this game is. We should, too.

update - in that spirit, and the spirit of the meme discussion in a prior thread:

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via b.static.memegenerator.net

About Last Night: The Extension

If you missed it, word leaked last night of Frans Nielsen agreeing to a four-year, $11 million extension. A formal announcement is planned today.

Newsday has a quickie with a statement from Garth Snow on how this fits.

Puck Daddy had nice things to say about this and the other core contracts the Islanders have assembled.

Edmonton blog the Cult of Hockey also liked the deal for the "Selke candidate" -- and I'm going to warn doubters who focus too much on Nielsen's point totals: There will be plenty more praise like that. This isn't even about a player who is something of a cult favorite here (which is in part just for fun), it's about evaluating areas of the game that don't show up on the back of a hockey card.

That CBC game recap link in the previous section also had Frans Nielsen on his extension:

"I'm proud to be part of it for another four years," he said. "They have treated me so good here and I can't wait to be contenders again."

Elsewhere:

ESPN's LeBrun and Custance discuss various topi

Why Did the Turtle Cross the Road?

This is neither here nor there, but...

While surfing post-game reactions last night I stumbled upon references to the Steve Staios hit on Maxime Talbot of two Islanders-Flyers meetings ago, which I'd almost forgotten about because the deeply wounded Talbot missed nary a shift nor game, and I remembered how clearly Flyers thought the incident was an "elbow" or headshot when the replays were frustratingly inadequate and thoroughly inconclusive for what began as a shoulder check. Those memories reminded me of the lesson I learned that night:

It's true what they say, how you can have two witnesses to the same car accident report completely different things.

In fact you can have those those witnesses watch slow motion replays of the same car accident from multiple angles and still report completely different things. And if one car is blue and the other is black then all bets are off, particularly if the blue car is just a benign old compact and the driver of the pretty black car just sped through a red light and stopped, stumbling out grabbing his neck and slumping to the pavement in the fetal position.

Sometimes, you just see different things.

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i'm sure garth is making calls for defensemen...

ness was ok, but he made a few rookie mistakes that could’ve ended up being opposition goals. they need some more solid dmen who can hold the fort and move the puck up. i wonder who’s available for a low cost?

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by gukid17 on Feb 8, 2012 7:23 AM EST reply actions  

Have we reached the point with our blueline injuries that we're hoping Mottau returns soon?

We haven’t reach that point, have we? That’s what I thought, but I just wanted to make sure.

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by Captdallas on Feb 8, 2012 8:04 AM EST up reply actions  

God no. lol. Mottau was "the worst" statistical d-man in the NHL this year.

I’d rather a 1-eyed pirate with a peg leg then him right now on D in all honesty, sort of. lol

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
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by OzzyFan on Feb 8, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Seamus can probably do a better snow angel than Mottau with those limbs

Sign him up!

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 8, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I've seen this guy play in the QMJHL, and when you tape up those four limbs,

and the PA System starts playing Four Sticks by Zeppelin, let me tell you, he turns into a MONSTER!

by Les Beaver on Feb 8, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

hahahahaha

Seriously, I’ve never seen legs snap off and fly across the ice like they are this season.

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by mikb on Feb 8, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Our defensemen...

…were terrible last night. Wow. Turnovers out of the ying yang, the passes that weren’t intercepted were usually behind our player. I get that Philly are pretty good but thank God for Nabby or it would have been a disaster. Ness had a few bright moments but understandably, looked out of his league. We won’t win many games going forward with D play like that.

by DirtyIsle on Feb 8, 2012 7:36 AM EST reply actions  

In fairness

You wonder how quickly any defenseman can adjust to playing with a brand new partner…let alone in a brand new league, as a rookie, in your first NHL game.

This debacle was obviously beyond that, but when your consistent pair is Streit/Staios, you have Amac/career AHLer Reese coming off mostly scratches over the last month and Eaton (I’ve looked bad with just about everyone) and Ness (who was an NHL fetus as of yesterday), I expect some growing pains.

Hopefully they adjust quickly.

I expect Reese to be out at least a couple of weeks now though and the cycle to continue to be a problem. I think Id like to see Wishart as his replacement. (Really Donovan, with an explanation) Wishart acquitted himself pretty well with Jurcina last season and may help to make up for some of the size lost from Hamonic. You have to think at the very least that e can equate to the soft/slow game that Eton plays and be stable without the high risk gambling upside of the more mobile puck movers that try to do to much once they get here.

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by Keith Quinn on Feb 8, 2012 7:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I doubt the Isles call up Wishart...

but only because they cannot send him down as easily. Ness and Donovan are protected as rookies. If Wishart joins the big club, Garth needs to think he is part of the long-term solution. If Reese misses significant time, Wishart might join the big club.

Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...

by Turgeon1992 on Feb 8, 2012 8:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Good point

I guess we find out when we find out the extent of Reese’s injury. Still may not matter if Jurcina can come back soon, and BPT doesn’t play until Friday. May not be a bad idea for Donovan quick call up for speed against Montreal.

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by Keith Quinn on Feb 8, 2012 8:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Can Wishart eventually go back down for AHL playoffs?

(If they make the playoffs.)

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 8, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

As long as he's on their "clear day" list

So yes. So could Hamonic in theory. Nino (according to Fornabaio) could not, even if his junior team’s season is over by then.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt the Isles call up Wishart…
but only because they cannot send him down as easily.

Just a point, they can call him up as an emergency callup

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by Mark D on Feb 8, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Time to Wishart!!!

This sitch is seriously really baffling to me. If we have an opportunity where we don’t have to worry about losing Wishar if/when we send him back down, then what’s the dealio Garth? You made the deal for him, let us see what kinda deal you made. Or is he really that bad? I just don’t get it.

by DirtyIsle on Feb 9, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Well we did play a Flyers team that was in desperation mode after they were trounced the last 2gms by division rivals.

And they did get Briere back yesterday, who scored 30goals last year.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
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by OzzyFan on Feb 8, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

No

IT WAS BRUTAL!!!11...ugh

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by Keith Quinn on Feb 8, 2012 7:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

lol

i’ve only seen it via replay, in real time that must have looked like a brutal running of marty, so i can understand both sides… what i want to see though is where the puck is at when contact is made… looks like it may already be behind marty… in which case would be a tougher pill to swallow

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by bob l on Feb 8, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

It looked tough real-time

We were in the lobby at our rink between games, watching live. Every Rangers fan was high-fiving and every Devils fan was yelling “HE RAN MARTY!” None of the Devs fans were willing to admit that maybe Volchenkov game Gabby a little shove, none of the Rangers fans saw that maybe going super-hard to the net might cause a little contact.

Then there’s poor Isles fan me, wanting to swap back to the Isles and Flyers, thinking that it could have gone either way. Makes me doubt myself when I’m completely certain that ZOMG WTF REF??

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by mikb on Feb 8, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I could certainly see that call going the other way.

Gabby was body to body with volchenkov who nudged him into the crease and “hooked”/sticked Gabby from the front preventing him from skating anywhere with his stick stuck on the ice. All Gaborik had was nudge forward into Brodeur or try and hit the e-brake and possibly slide into the net anyway. It’s a 50/50 call, but I’m more pro-goal on that call then no goal because Gaborik had no where to go and was being stick checked and nudged by volchenkov. That’s way too much contact by anton for it to be a “gaborik’s fault” on the brodeur contact for me. Should have been a goal.

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by OzzyFan on Feb 8, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That's all I ask

If I can understand why or how a ref made a call, then I don’t have much issue. Mistakes are human. Screw-ups and cover-ups and “I couldn’t tell so I guessed” are where it gets maddening.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Fixed
unless a Maple Leaf any forward runs into an Islanders goalie.

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Feb 8, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

In other words...

…it’s not on the same level as the calls that went against Hamonic earlier this season, which cost Isles a couple games.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 8, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

From Hornick

The Flyers completed a three-game set against the Devils, Rangers and Islanders without leading at any point in the three games.

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by Keith Quinn on Feb 8, 2012 8:03 AM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Good

Jerks!

In some ways I hate the Flyers more than the Rangers right now.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 8, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not like Nabby isn't a proven NHL caliber goaltender already..

I am a Monty guy and I was all for making Monty the starter…I felt he earned it and it should’ve been his job to lose… Unfortunately, Monty got injured and Nabby stepped up and has worked his way into the starting job by out playing Monty…Now the rolls have reversed…It should be Nabby’s starting job to lose and Monty’s to win…I hope Garth has learned his lesson by trading away Roli…Injuries happen to our gaolies often so it wouldn’t be prudent to trade him, IMHO…There is no point in trading a goalie for a 4th round draft pick who will most likely never help the NHL club anyway…I believe Nabby is a perfect guy for the job at this point for this team as long as he wants it…He’s a veteran..The team desperately needs Nabby’s veteran presence…Nabby has a calm demeanor back there…I’m sure that helps the young guys having an experienced veteran holding down the fort…Unless we get a difference maker d-man or a high draft pick it would be a waste to get rid of Nabby…

by KO21 on Feb 8, 2012 8:23 AM EST reply actions  

we have no clue what, if any promises

were made to Nabby from Garth… it’s not impossible to think he said, “listen, if we’re out of it at the deadline, I’ll ship you to a team in the top 8 somewhere, but i need you to show up and work hard for us”

he is only on a 1 year deal remember, no trading him means getting zero from him, unless he’s dying to come back here as our #1 next year…

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by bob l on Feb 8, 2012 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Garth already kind of hinted that Nabby isnt going anywhere.....

I think Nabokov deserves the credit, starting job and an extension if he were to accept one. I was never on the Montoya bandwagon. I am not about to put the hopes of a “playoff” caliber team on the shoulders of Al Montoya, a career minor league goalie who’s never handled a big work load. He’s played well, but hasnt proved that he can handle and play at that level for a high number of games. Nabokov is proven, and has proven this season that he still has plenty left in the tank. He had one bad stint in the KHL, which is a completely different league and im sure much different game than the NHL. It would not be a logical choice to go into next season without trying to lock up Nabokov for atleast another year. If my team is serious about making the playoffs, (which the Islanders should be a team very capable of making it) and i was told the goalie tandem that was going to get me there was Al montoya and rick dipietro i would laugh in their face. Poulin can not be expected handle that load either.

by LaFontaine16 on Feb 8, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Garth said he had mo intention of trading Nabby in his interview w Howie.

Garth normally rarely ever shows his cards…So when he says something like this I believe him when he says it..

by KO21 on Feb 8, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

It's either that or driving up his market through smoke signals to other GMs

But yes, with Roloson there was apparently a pledge made to deal him to a playoff team when the time came. Maybe not in this instance.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

we've seen with Roli and Nino

When Garth says something to a guy, he generally means it. So I’d say that if a goalie is moving, it might well be Cubano. That would mean using Nabokov to bridge to Poulin over the next season or two. (Oddly, I used Nabokov much the same way in my EHM franchise, only it was Josh Harding on the other side.)

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by mikb on Feb 8, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be very surprised if he moved Nabby

I think Garth was just honest there. We know how much he values character and feeling in the room and the right personality in the right spot at the right time. And from all we’ve heard I’m pretty sure he thinks Nabby is the right fit there, warranting to be part of this group and the group very much warranting his presence and goaltending.

by BenHasna on Feb 8, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It also could be

Nabokov told him he’s not interested in being traded. That would end the conversation pretty quickly.

by afrosupreme on Feb 8, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Mine's a cop out, but I won't be surprised either way

There are frankly understandable reasons for taking either path. Nabby def. sounds happy here right now.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Nabby happy,

fans happy, GS happy?, teammates happy. Don’t worry… you know the rest!

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by IslanderDoug on Feb 8, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I know this came up in the other thread

But that’s not really a team rightsholder’s sideline job.

Independent media should ask those questions. This guy’s job is 20-second interactions about the game or period that just took place.

I find some NY media coverage obnoxious in that way: “Nice game. Do you want to be traded?”

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by Dominik on Feb 9, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I guess you have a point...lol

as long as someone asks is all that I care about, really…Deb Placey did

by KO21 on Feb 9, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure about any promises

between Garth & Nabby. But, we’ve been waiting for a steady, healthy goalkeep for so long… is this not he?

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by IslanderDoug on Feb 8, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Knock on wood!

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

nooooooo

The Isles Goalie Voodoo Doll is verbally-activated! What have you done??!?

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by mikb on Feb 8, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I know not of these GVD's...

As now I feel “The Force” is with us!

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by IslanderDoug on Feb 8, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Garth: No trade for Nabby

This may be a smoke screen for raising the price for any team in need of a goalie for strecth run. As for the Isles and Nabby, HE STAYS, NO TRADE, we run the Nabby wagon until the wheels fall off. This is not the time to switch to AL, It’s not the time to give equal time in the net to both goalies. It’s time to ride the hot hand: Nabby. Next year is another story. Nabby may want to re-sign or he may want to go somewhere else.

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by Russel Ginart on Feb 8, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

In reference to Nabby. Also pleased that Frans got paid.

by kjallak on Feb 8, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

"All night he check check check check check"

and his name is Matt Martin.

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by OzzyFan on Feb 8, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Quick! Quick!!

What’s Nabby CPI??? Need to know. I NEED TO KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

by barry_hal_oliver_24 on Feb 8, 2012 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

Everytime someone mentions CPI

I think about the bar that was out in the Hamptons

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 8, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I saw Fuel and Creed there in the same show

Thats about all I remember of that night.

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by Keith Quinn on Feb 8, 2012 9:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This is still making me laugh

It’s the “Dealbreaker…that was my move” that keeps putting me over.

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by Dominik on Feb 9, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously

somebody had to be responsible…and it certainly wasn’t going to be me.

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by Keith Quinn on Feb 9, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah- I didnt go to that one lol.

I saw/hung out with so many bands out there, good times.
I remember I brought my friend Val to NYC to get a fake ID so she could come to shows there with us.
They would give her a look because they SO knew it was a fake ID- but since all of us were in our early-mid 20s except her, they would let her in. So much fun.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Feb 9, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey I remember that bar

It wasnt quite the Hamptons but it was pretty far out there. I saw so many bands there in the 90s!

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Feb 8, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

CPI was most definitely in the Hamptons

It was in Hampton Bays. It wasnt snooty Southampton or Bridgehampton, but its still the Hamptons. I lived out east for 27 years, I think us locals are the only ones who actually even know Westhampton and Hampton Bays exist. Its like the equivalent of people saying theyre going to the city but meaning theyre going to the Bronx when EVERYONE knows the city means Manhattan lol

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 8, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm reposting from the game recap

bc I didnt realize that you had a draft link in here. One of the mock drafts on NHL.com has the Islanders taking Malcolm Subban with the 6th pick.

Steve Hoffner’s logic:

Do the Isles need another goalie? No. Do they need a good one? Yes.

Guess his crystal ball has Poulin and Nilsson already being busts, and no shot of regaining Nabokov or Montoya becoming a number one. That’s exactly what Garth Snow should do, draft a Top 10 goalie (this was too sarcastic to even use the sarcasm font)

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 8, 2012 9:17 AM EST reply actions  

"And koskinen becoming a bust".

Like we really need another goalie drafted right now. lol

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by OzzyFan on Feb 8, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone catch the AP recap of last nights game?

The following quote on Nabby had me smiling, due to the elevated standing the Associated Press writers afford RDP.

But (Nabokov) returned to the NHL this season and has played well in the absence of No. 1 goalie Rick DiPietro.

by SchneiderDiricov on Feb 8, 2012 9:48 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

You just made me spit out my lunch sandwich. lol

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
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by OzzyFan on Feb 8, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

saw that too

wonder when/if they will stop calling him that

by JasonDW on Feb 8, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

The Mets need Cap Relief

so Martinek would be out of their price range and the equipment manager would quit once he got to the Island and realize there wasn’t anything to steal and sell.

We may just need to go the easier route and release Staios…if we ever get a healthy defenseman back in the lineup

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 8, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Re: The Turtle

I was half-listening last night, but I think one of the Flyers’ announcers (possibly the kind of loud guy who I think does the reporting from the sideline, not the booth), recapped the incident, and mentioned it was a clean hit. They were showing Staios at the time, so I assumed that was what they were talking about, but I’m not sure.

Be nice if they had changed their tune.

by afrosupreme on Feb 8, 2012 9:56 AM EST reply actions  

how awkward are these post-game interviews between Ruttgaizer and Nabby. Where is Fischler when you need him? Hopefully, MSG will dump Peter before next season. No one on team seems to like talking to him.

by noomz on Feb 8, 2012 9:58 AM EST reply actions  

Peter Pan is useless...

I’m waiting for him to ask Nabby the question all Isles fans want to hear him answer…“Do you want to remain an Islander”? “Would you approve a trade to a team on a playoff run or would you prefer to remain an Islander and help this team reach its goal”? But that would be too much to ask…You would think we weren’t a NY team in the way we get coverage…

by KO21 on Feb 9, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Frans Nielsen (and some other dudes) for Selke!

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by NGreenberg on Feb 8, 2012 11:57 AM EST reply actions  

Mr. Greenberg

You will not get me to subscribe to ESPN Insider you tricky journalist you.
Can you fill us in on that podcast Howie spoke about? Have no problem giving you some hits there would like to listen to it.

by Bleuchz on Feb 8, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Can you fill us in on that podcast Howie spoke about?

That tweet they showed last night was to Justin Borne, and was me joking about having me on again since the last time I was on was Tavaresgate.

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by NGreenberg on Feb 8, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Already

Listened to that one. That was when I hated you and everything you stand for. You’ve won me over.

I know my approval means so much to you. Now you have it. You can live in peace.

by Bleuchz on Feb 8, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Yay! And thanks! Now please go convince these soon-to-be fans to see the light too!

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by NGreenberg on Feb 8, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Make sure it's 3 seconds after a goal

Just to be sure.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

welcome, Neil

Sorry we roughed you up a bit about the JT thing. We appreciate your taking the time to come by and comment.

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by mikb on Feb 8, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

No apologies needed. Standing up for “your guy” is to be respected.

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by NGreenberg on Feb 8, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Ironically

I’m happier you gave Frans credit since he is a much less known entity. I have been arguing with Islander fans all day about his worth actually…..

This isn’t Ironic is it? I can never get a handle on what that word means. Anywho I expect you to check back monthly (or at least whenever you right something about an Islander)

by Bleuchz on Feb 8, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know about this

What’s Nielsen’s CPI?

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by Fabtraption on Feb 8, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Through the roof!

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by NGreenberg on Feb 8, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Alrighty then!

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by Fabtraption on Feb 8, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Cheers to you, Mr. Greenburg

Thanks for being a great sport. My respect for you has also increased.

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by CharlieIsles on Feb 8, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks. Even though we may have our differences of opinion, at the end of the day, we are all hockey fans sitting in a basement avoiding sunlight.

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by NGreenberg on Feb 8, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

HBA for short

We have our own chapter with dues and everything.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Since you brought it up,

I have the last 4 months worth of dues just sitting on the washing machine waiting to be mailed…..but I’m too scared to walk to the mailbox.

:(

by Les Beaver on Feb 8, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Nice, but I have to think Toews and Datsyuk are the 2 finalists as it sits with a 3rd likely being Bergeron right now.

Toews is probably gonna take it though.

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by OzzyFan on Feb 8, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

It's more of an offense + defense kind of thing. Not to take anything from frans of course.

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by OzzyFan on Feb 8, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I would happily put the full weight of my powers behind a “Frans for Selke” campaign.

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by NGreenberg on Feb 8, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I call your bluff. Do it!!!!

I wanna see an article stating FRANS NIELSEN, BEST DEFENSIVE FORWARD IN THE NHL come May!

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
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by OzzyFan on Feb 8, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta change the Lighthouse Hockey tag line again

Is suggest whatever the translation of “The Ice is Broken!” is, to play off the title of that book De Brod Isen

Unfortunately I have no idea how to conjugate Danish verbs.

Still feels weird cheering for Nabokov

by ilopan on Feb 8, 2012 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

Dang

NYIslanders #Isles injury update: Dylan Reese will miss 4-6 weeks with a left MCL knee sprain

by ghalbart on Feb 8, 2012 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

Could've been much worse

At least it isn’t a tear.

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by Fabtraption on Feb 8, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

true that

And if his meniscus is intact, he’ll be fine, just needs rest and rehab.

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by mikb on Feb 8, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh

At that length, I’m ready for a defenseman rental. Can’t believe I’m going to say this, but someone like, gulp, Staios, that we could bring in for a 6th-7th round pick.

I’d rather let these guys develop at Bridgeport, than have them struggle in a crappy situation in the NHL.

by afrosupreme on Feb 8, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Is 4-6 weeks enough to bring up Wishart?

This gets curiouser and curiouser.

Success was survival and, kid, it still is

by IslesFanInNJ on Feb 8, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

but then Wishart is up for the rest of the season. Demoting him to Bridgeport would expose him to waivers.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Feb 8, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the emergency recall

Would let him avoid that. It seems like they might want him more at Bridgeport than with the Isles, whatever that reason may be, because he could have avoided exposure on this last callup (or any of the other emergency callups).

by afrosupreme on Feb 8, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Can an emergency recall last for 4 - 6 weeks?

I don’t know how that works, I would imagine there would be a time constraint on what qualifies as an emergency recall, no?

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by Fabtraption on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Technically it wouldn't be an emergency

because they have Streit, Staios, Ness, MacDonald, Jurcina, Eaton already up and not on IR. (Hamonic either really). As soon as one of those guys came back from “day to day”, he’d have to go back anyway or sit in the pressbox like Reese did…which I don’t think would be good for him in particular.

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by Keith Quinn on Feb 8, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't think emergency necessitates IR
Emergency condit ions shall be established when the playing strength of the Loaning Club, by reason of incapacitat ing injury or illness or by League suspension to its Players is reduced below the level of two (2) goalkeepers, six (6) defensemen and twelve (12) forwards.

I think this is how Montoya wasn’t ever on IR even when Poulin was up as an emergency recall in December.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Right

and Ness without Hamonic or Jurcina hitting IR.

by afrosupreme on Feb 8, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait

so the “emergency” condition is to BPT? BPT would be the “loaning club” right?…Leaving BPT in an emergency situation without a backup while Montoya wasn’t on IR and Nabby active.

Now I’m more confused.

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by Keith Quinn on Feb 8, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

technically the Isles are always the loaning club

The players are signed to play for the New York Islanders. Any reassignment to an AHL club is technically a “loan” under the terms of the CBA.

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by mikb on Feb 8, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I havnen't been able to find a limit

They mention something about how you have to pay for his spouse to come up once the emergency lasts past 28 days, but don’t outline a limit that I can see. But it feels like there is a “spirit of the thing” here. Maybe the 30 days/10 NHL games thing also comes into play. Damn CBA needs a flowchart.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

That was my point

The scary part of this? Mottau is possibly they key factor in some of the decisions to be made.

Success was survival and, kid, it still is

by IslesFanInNJ on Feb 8, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Jurcina's health is more key

If Jurcina comes back for Thursday, then no need for Donovan/Mottau/Wishart. Ness gets his two week cup o’ coffee until Hamonic comes back and then we’re back to a stronger defense.

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by Fabtraption on Feb 8, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha - I have already forgotten about Juice

I guess I should’ve known the ledge.

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by IslesFanInNJ on Feb 8, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't Mottau be sent down to BPT?

If someone claims him on waivers, even better, right?

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 8, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

An Actual Vision for the Future?

With the extension given to Nielsen (and the Tavares, Okposo, Moulson and Grabner contracts) it appears for the first time in a long time that the Islanders have a bit of a coherent roster plan in place. After years of watching young players develop on the Islanders to be traded away for a few draft picks, it appears Snow believes he has the crew he wants to move forward with. But we all need to be honest, while a miracle run to the playoffs this year would be great, this plan is really meant to take shape with a playoff appearance next season.

Which brings us to Nabokov. If he has no interest in staying around for the next couple of years he needs to be traded. To keep with the plan behind the recent contracts, the trade needs to be negotiated with the ‘12-’13 season in mind and not think too far ahead. We do not want draft picks that will help four years down the road, but someone who can solidify the roster for next season. Totally understand that Nabokov will not bring back a top 6 forward, but he should be able to deliver someone that will add depth and contribute next year.

by b. teenager on Feb 8, 2012 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

Trade returns

This conversation with Custance and LeBrun is interesting. From what they’re getting from GMs, the sellers are few, the asking prices are high, and teams are thinking about next year (roster player) rather than a few years down the line (draft picks). Contending teams are reluctant to do that for obvious reasons. Chicago’s Bowman: “Not going to create one hole to fill another.”

Add to it that there shouldn’t be many teams looking for a goalie, and even if Nabby stands on his head for two weeks his trade price could be iffy. Probably still a pick or at best a Wishart-type.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I find it hard to believe...

…that if push came to shove, Chicago would rather take questionable goaltending to the playoffs than create a (repairable) hole in their lineup for next season.

If Isles offer Nabokov to Chicago for a good bottom-6 forward or a good 4th or 5th defenseman (perhaps Jurcina and Nabokov for someone a little better than Jurcina who is signed through next season) and the Blackhawks turn away the offer, the joke is on them.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 8, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

To me they did it in 2010 though

And won the Cup with it. I imagine they’ll be filled with hubris and figure they’ll grow out of this, even with Coach Q doing his usual goalie antagonism routine.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

And is Crawford actually that questionable?

This will sound like base goaltender apologia – and especially when they have Keith and Seabrook and Hjalmarsson back there – but the kid faces about a shot and a half more per 60 than he did last season, when he looked excellent as the starter. The airtight defense that kept Niemi and Khabibulin relatively secure for the past three years is showing signs of wear. Blackhawk goalies were stopping .905 of the shots before their six-game losing streak… not exactly world-beating, but during the streak it’s .868, pulling down the overall numbers heavily. This seems much more like a rough patch than an outright shaky goalie situation. If Crawford comes back to his playoff form from last season they ought to be fine.

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by mikb on Feb 8, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

from Dreger

via nhl.com

CHICAGO: Dreger also said on the same show [Wed morning Team 1260] that the Blackhawks are interested in adding goaltender Evgeni Nabokov of the Islanders, but GM Garth Snow isn’t ready to deal the Russian netminder. Chicago’s Corey Crawford (2.94, .900) has struggled in his second season as the starter, and backup Ray Emery (2.80, .901) hasn’t fared much better.

by noomz on Feb 8, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

If they’ve got Brent Seabrook just lyin’ around not doin’ nothin’, I might be persuaded.

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by mikb on Feb 8, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I’d even take that Steven Johns giant. MILK ’EM GARTH!!!

by afrosupreme on Feb 8, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

It'll be interesting

There’s no way Detroit is going to give up much, because they are looking for a backup, not a starter. You’re not going to get much for someone earmarked as a backup goalie.

As you say, Chicago has a reputation for ignoring this problem (successfully), so they don’t seem a possibility.

Could Ottawa become desperate enough to make a move? Possibly, but would Nabokov even go there? Not likely.

While I’d like to see him traded for something useful, the fact is most of the playoff contending teams who might want to improve (Chicago aside), are bubble teams. Would Nabokov waive his NTC to go to a bubble team? Seems doubtful to me.

by afrosupreme on Feb 8, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

By "bubble team"...

…do you mean there is a good chance they’ll miss the playoffs? If so, I’d disagree. If they add Nabokov, they’re a playoff team.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 8, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

By bubble

I mean they are in that 6-10 range. They may very well make the playoffs, but they probably aren’t really going to contend once they do.

by afrosupreme on Feb 8, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I agree with that.

I think. Byfuglien was a big piece to them winning the puck. And the defenseman now in Florida. They certainly wouldn’t be one of the best 8 teams, even with a hot Nabokov.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 8, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

If Garth isn't signing Nabby for next year

there is a real bidding war to be had between Chicago and Detroit. The winner gets Nabby and first place overall in the West. Loser gets Nashville in the first round.

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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 8, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

OT-ish: Apologies for the site issues this morning

Those responsible have been sacked.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

I got tired of having Jackie Chan pop up on my browser

so I gave up and took a nap

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 8, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I was starting to wonder if Jackie Chan was behind the prank itself I saw him so much.

Or at minimum he was anti-islanders. lol

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by OzzyFan on Feb 8, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

He wants us all to quit drinking coffee and switch to V-8 juices

Hejust popped out from my filing cabinet, swapped out my mug, and then ran off along the top of the cubicle wall.

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by mikb on Feb 8, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Seriously Mike, ease up today

Im laughing a little too much at the majority of your comments

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 8, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

All in on purpose broken english while making funny faces.

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by OzzyFan on Feb 8, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes but Dom...

you’re still here. What’s up with that? Seriously, trading Nabby would be a bad move psychologically for the the team. They should ride him as far as he goes and try to make a run at getting in the playoffs. They’ve spent enough time trolling the bottom of the league for the high picks. For the first time in a long time, the team has real emerging young talent. Gotta roll with it and disable the revolving door.

by kennyboy13 on Feb 8, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sympathetic to this psych argument

Especially if they continue riding him for the next two weeks.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a legitimate point

I think it’s the only good one in favor of keeping Nabokov. There is something to be said for building up a winning attitude.

That said, I thought we had done that last spring and it didn’t pan out so well.

by afrosupreme on Feb 8, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Also at this point

I have become a delusional Islander Fan, rationale for the most part was lost during the late 90s and the early part of millennium. At this point, whether it is a 6 percent chance or lower for making the playoffs, Nabby is our one solid Goaltender whom has emerged and played consistently for the team. The team clearly lays the body down to stop the pucks from reaching him as seen in Buffalo and Philly and they probably have more confidence all together.

I would just roll the ball and let him play the rest of the season as much as we can and see where it brings us. Maybe he signs with us next year, maybe he doesn’t but at this point, any glimmer of hope for a playoff chance, I want all the guns in and firing. Lots of Maybes, but an extra draftpick as nearsighted as this maybe seems a waste unless its high first round pick.

by ghalbart on Feb 8, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

On top of all of that

The value of a lower-round pick to the Isles is much less than it was even two years ago. The cupboard is really re-filled now. The picks they already have are going to be sufficient to keep things going until this current crop of prospects sorts itself. So whereas trading Bill Guerin for a conditional pick or Roloson for a B-tier prospect was the smart play, it’s not so necessary now. The Isles can think more in the now and hold onto Nabokov for a run, and even try to sign him to a reasonable year or two after this. If he walks, the Isles aren’t going to miss the minimal return so much as they would have when Snow first took the job.

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by mikb on Feb 8, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Hello, ghalbert
I have become a delusional Islander Fan, rationale for the most part was lost during the late 90s and the early part of millennium.

Have a seat in the circle with us. You’re safe here. The first step to serenity…

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Such a classic bit

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

You know you need a cover sheet on your TPS report, Richard!

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 8, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

that's not your cake phillip! that's simone's cake!

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by gukid17 on Feb 8, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

You kill the joe, you make some mo'!

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 8, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Had Snow done his job in preseason..........

We would have one more real forward not with the names of Rolston, Pandolfo, or Reasoner, and one top pair D, and we might be in the play-off hunt for real now, To pay for this from our cash strapped owner could have been accomplished with just 3 thousand more attendance in 41 home games at just $60 per ticket = 6 to 7M dollars and these are conservative figures for a team in a play-off race. In addition it would have created a lot of positive buzz for a new building.

by altosax on Feb 8, 2012 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

Is Snow to blame for the poor play of

Okposo, Grabner, Nielsen, Streit, and Comeau for the start of the season as well?

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by Fabtraption on Feb 8, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

All right. I call your bluff.

Who could Garth have gotten. Name one.

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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 8, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoa........
just 3 thousand more attendance in 41 home games

Putting aside the rest of the MBA and the “positive buzz for a building” herring for the moment, that is one massive projection based on any minor “real” forward available in preseason.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Moreover

per JP’s January +/- they have increased almost 3K per game in attendance this year from last. I’m not sure what forward on the market would have put us into sell out territory.

by afrosupreme on Feb 8, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

About Nabokov Part 1...

His KHL defense: Denis Grebeshkov, Vitaly Vishnevsky, Dmitry Vyrobyov, Johann Fransson, Sergei Gusev

His Isles defense we all know quite well. I’d take the 6-7 guys that play here than those KHL guys.

So even though Nabby had rough KHL numbers, maybe he needed better caliber players in front of him.

by jonny4gets on Feb 8, 2012 4:11 PM EST reply actions  

holy crap

You may have found the only man who’s HAPPY to see Mike Mottau on the ice in front of him!

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by mikb on Feb 8, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

About Nabokov Part 2...

October — 1-2, 2.23 GAA, .927 Sa%
November — 0-3, 3.84 GAA, .885 Sa%
Then he got hurt.
December — 3-3, 2.04 GAA, .930 Sa%
January — 6-4, 2.27 GAA, .918 Sa%
February — 2-0, 0.47 GAA, .985 Sa%

Not that the February numbers will maintain that level, but he is getting better and better numbers as he plays more.

He seems to be using ‘TEH PEDIGREE’ (thanks for that one!) to help carry this team.

by jonny4gets on Feb 8, 2012 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

So we need to deal him before March!

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

KEEP NABBY...

That is all.

Bleeding orange & blue since '72.

by IslanderDoug on Feb 8, 2012 6:33 PM EST reply actions  

My have we changed our thought process in one year regarding Nabokov

Next we’ll say how keeping Nabokov long term is a good idea so he can sell season tickets in our soon to be new digs in Brooklyn with so many Russians in the borough.

If Nabokov is open to a team friendly two year deal at say 5.5 million total go for it but if not trade him.

by rickrays on Feb 8, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

If Kirk Muller didn’t act like such a dickbag when he was acquired, we’d be saying good things about him too!

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Feb 9, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ugh God...

We’re stuck with Frans now for 4 years?? Greaaat…

by Wes Scarborough on Feb 8, 2012 7:34 PM EST reply actions  

We shall persevere somehow...

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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.

The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.

1980-81


May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.

Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.

1981-82


May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.

A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.

1982-83


May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.

Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.


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