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Islanders 1*, Flyers 0 (*SO): Evgeni Nabokov Provides the Salvation, $11M Man Nielsen Delivers the Judgment

The New York Islanders survived the first game without their best defenseman Travis Hamonic, the mid-game loss of Dylan Reese, and the careful debut of rookie Aaron Ness to hang on for dear life through 65 minutes of scoreless hockey.

That endurance test passed, Evgeni Nabokov made two more stops in the shootout while Ilya Bryzgalov couldn't stop Frans Nielsen and John Tavares, resulting in the Isles' second consecutive win in Philadelphia and a well-earned shutout for Nabokov.

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The big news (leak) of the night, which the Islanders were planning to announce with appropriate fanfare tomorrow, is Frans Nielsen's four-year, $11 million contract extension. But despite Nielsen authoring his patented Backhand of Judgment move to get the shootout winner, this night was Nabby, Nabby, Nabby.

Star-divide

The first period, with the team at full strength (sans Hamonic, of course), wasn't bad in the aggregate, with the Islanders creating multiple odd-man rushes they failed to convert. But the Flyers started the second period off strong and once Reese went down and the Islanders leaned mostly on four defensemen, it was a lopsided, hold-on-tight affair: The Islanders were outshot 31-10 in the final two periods.

The Islanders lost Reese midway through the second period on what looked like a disturbingly awkward torque of his knee (or possibly groin update: Staple reports a "pretty serious leg brace" on Reese afterward, so initial guess is probably right). Reese gamely carried on until he could change, but he didn't return to the ice. With Ness making his NHL debut, that meant a switch to playing mostly four defensemen, and the Isles continued careful man-to-man defense in their zone.

On that note, the John Tavares line played conservatively and saw few scoring opportunities. Chicken or egg there, but they didn't mount much against frequent match Matt Read, Maxime Talbot and Jakub Voracek -- though the pairing of Braydon Coburn and Kimmo Timonen were the key to swinging that battle. Regardless, Tavares is suddenly scoreless in three games, though his shootout conversion provided breathing room tonight.

Meanwhile, the Nielsen line saw a lot of Claude Giroux and Giroux alone had chance after chance, including one while shorthanded.

Le Pant, Le Pant, Le Pant

With the Islanders holding on for dear life throughout the third -- and Evgeni Nabokov and his shot blockers patiently staying square and blocking the low stuff -- the Islanders broke out with Tavares leading the rush through center. A quick one-on-one move on Andrej Meszaros got him in the clear enough to force a hooking penalty out of Matt Carle (how not Meszaros exactly?) with 5:15 left.

That burned some much-needed time off the clock, but the Islanders still managed to give up scoring chances, almost as if they'd taken the PP as a chance to catch their breath but forgot their opponent was frustrated as hell. Mark Eaton and Steve Staios taking turns on that powerplay tells you what kind of manpower situation the Islanders were in. (Why you wouldn't use young Aaron Ness there, when stable puck movement on the PP should be his strength, I'm not sure. Could've been a rotation thing I missed, since I clearly missed some Ness shifts.)

It goes without saying there was no conversion on that powerplay, but it may yet have given the Isles the rest they needed. Overtime was a little more even, though there too they needed a timeout after an icing race that Tavares reasonably thought he'd won.

Game Highlights

Game Notes

... Have to say it was a fine night for Josh Bailey's line with Matt Martin and Rhett Rakhshani. They matched up mostly with Brayden Schenn, Wayne Simmonds and Danny Briere and it was a quiet night for that Flyers trio. Bailey himself almost single-handedly created an OT winner with time running out by a good forecheck and drive to the net around Matt Carle.

... Star of the night was Nabokov, who played smart and calmly hung in there all night as the team in front of him went into prevent-and-survive mode. He also made a fine skate save on a good Danny Briere move in the shootout, which coming directly after Nielsen's conversion -- well that just felt good to see in so many ways.

... Seriously, Nabokov was just steady and technical, moving side to side and anticipating the Flyers' desperate heaves and wraparounds all night as the Flyers continually controlled play but attacked the net like a team that feels snakebitten. It's a fun sight when a goalie is in a team's head and you can see that team's interior battle between "We'll get one, just keep doing this" and "You've got to be Averying kidding me with this guy."

... Tough to evaluate Ness in his debut with the juggling of the pairs, but I didn't notice any glaring rookie mistakes and he somehow logged 14:25 and 21 shifts -- including seven shifts in the third and two in OT. (I swear, he's so elusive I didn't even notice he had that much ice.) From what I saw, he played contained and fundamentally, a good approach for his debut.

... Which is funnier here: That the Islanders now have a "two game winning streak in Philadelphia," or that Bryzgalov also gets a shutout for his night of duty as the Maytag repairman? (To be fair, Bryzgalov was good when needed in the first period, when the Isles had several chances to score an actual goal.)

... But this is why the shootout feels so wrong to me. The Islanders got by under trying circumstances -- so great for them and certainly Nabokov deserves his shutout -- it's just crazy to watch that game and say the Isles deserve the extra point because their guys converted two extra time breakaways. Alas, that's the reality, and they've certainly been on the other end. So bravo.

* * *

It's been remarked at times that the Islanders haven't had a goalie steal a game yet this year. Well Nabokov stole one tonight, and it's the game that finally puts the Isles back to the NHL's quasi-.500 in their 52nd game of the season. Temporarily they also hop into 11th place in the East with Tampa Bay losing to the Kings.

So be it. Nabby's impressive 45-save-plus-shootout clean sheet deserves at least that.

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How do you do these write ups so quick?

And they’re like well written. Not sloppy and in need of editing. Bravo, sir. Bravo.

by Les Beaver on Feb 7, 2012 10:16 PM EST reply actions  

exactly.

every posible outcome is considered and written in advance. Tonights game was version 39,728, point click shift and voila!, your recap is ready.

by Isles2011 on Feb 7, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish i could read it again

For nostalgias sake lol

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by Zhora on Feb 7, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

That one didnt go up until the morning

bc after scouring his templates for 2 hours, he realized he didn’t have anything remotely close to cover it lol

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 7, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you bragging?

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 7, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Me, Brag???

Nooooooo…

It’s actually funny. I have the 2 most commented on stories, Friday Night Fights and the Game preview/Thread for the followup game against the Sabres

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by Mark D on Feb 7, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I got off the plane in Denver

Listened to a voicemail from Mark, “It’s crazy, Haley fought Talbot, then Johnson! it’s 6-0! Everybody’s going insane!” and I thought, “Whatever. Nice try. Not falling for it.”

Then I got up to the mountains, logged on, and saw the insanity I missed.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Feb 7, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

btw Dom

you know your closing in on roughly 2,000 stories if you go via the editor and nearly 3,000 posts if you go by your profile?

I think the difference is one counts Fanposts/Fanshots and one doesn’t.

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by Mark D on Feb 7, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a little frightening.

The scariest is still the comment total though. I try to tell myself that’s just game threads with us talking to each other.

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by Dominik on Feb 7, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Does it count Fransposts/Frans-shots as well

I’m guessing over 1K for each.

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by JPinVA on Feb 8, 2012 3:52 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

:)

Speaking of which, you all can still get to the FransPosts through the FransPosts links, they’re just not on the front page at the moment due to the people who were sacked today.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh ok, I didnt think you would brag

but ….wait a minute?!?!! That sounded like more bragging!

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 7, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't worry

I’ll google my webbard username and find the handful of Pen responses bashing me. That’ll deflate me.

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by Mark D on Feb 7, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks

Now because you mentioned it, i have to go home and watch Friday night fights on dvd. Im gonna be up until 10 am. but its a great reason to stay up :)

by bigmike92 on Feb 8, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't like this point system either

But it’s the same for every team and they have to take the points any way they can get them. Meanwhile, the Isles have only two more teams to pass before Ottawa and also will hold three in hand on Loseapeg after tonight. The playoffs- perchance to dream – are doable. OT, but the Devs are closing fast on the Rags, who could easily fall to fourth or fifth if their goalie – can’t remember his name – has a bad stretch.

by kennyboy13 on Feb 7, 2012 10:18 PM EST reply actions  

So Nabby's first star and Frans is 2nd star

Why yes, I do have a man crush on Bailey and Martin, and no, I don't care what you think about it

by DarthDoyle on Feb 7, 2012 10:20 PM EST reply actions  

fine night for Josh Bailey

Bails made some great plays in all three zones. Funny — most people say he passes too much. The one time he should have passed (with Molson cruising to the net), he went for the stuff.

by Bryan's Pop on Feb 7, 2012 10:22 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

That was some crazy irony there

I suppose long term it wasn’t a bad sign. He busted his tail for that one and wanted the winner.

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by Dominik on Feb 7, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

dont blame him

I was yelling pass, but he is a big boy and knew what he was doing. Bryz probably, reading this site, thought he was going to pass too, so that is why Bails made the move.

by ghalbart on Feb 7, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Backward headed passes in 4-on-4 always have a higher danger factor too

With him working to get that, he might have defaulted to “stuff this and see what happens.”

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by Dominik on Feb 7, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

this sounds serious

Arthur Staple @StapeNewsday Close
Dylan Reese in a pretty serious leg brace after game. If Milan Jurcina isn’t ready for Thursday, Matt Donovan may get call from BPT. #Isles

Why yes, I do have a man crush on Bailey and Martin, and no, I don't care what you think about it

by DarthDoyle on Feb 7, 2012 10:23 PM EST reply actions  

Brutal

That poor Reese does not catch many breaks.

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by Dominik on Feb 7, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we keep him?

Please! I think this team would be much better if we had either the Fearless one or Jack Hillen on the squad. They were consistent. Something most of our defensemen are not.

by IsleStyle on Feb 8, 2012 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

From the view point

It looked like an MCL Sprain or even an ACL with that kind of movement. Or possibly tears on either. SUCKS.

by ghalbart on Feb 7, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

i can attest from personal experience

MCL tears blow, ACL tears blow even more

Why yes, I do have a man crush on Bailey and Martin, and no, I don't care what you think about it

by DarthDoyle on Feb 7, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

having surgery on the

17th for my second ACL tear, booooo.

by ghalbart on Feb 7, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

good luck with your recovery

PT was a pain in the ass

Why yes, I do have a man crush on Bailey and Martin, and no, I don't care what you think about it

by DarthDoyle on Feb 7, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

irony is

Im starting PT school in late May, haha.

Thanks, at least it will let me even more time to sweat over the Isles and coming on this site.

by ghalbart on Feb 7, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess you'll have the whole patient empathy covered

Brutal. Good luck with it.

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by Dominik on Feb 7, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Knee injuries suck

Get well soon, man.

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by mikb on Feb 8, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Whats Pierre Turgeon have to do with it?

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 7, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

you dont know

he puts you through bag skates while shooting slappers at you to work on agility, speed, and turning

Why yes, I do have a man crush on Bailey and Martin, and no, I don't care what you think about it

by DarthDoyle on Feb 7, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

That does sound like a pain in the ass

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 7, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Why are you posting a picture of the Columbus Blue Jackets goalie?

You should post a picture of one of those net covering goalie things that you practice picking your spots on.

Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...

by Turgeon1992 on Feb 7, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Woah

I read for the 17th time at first. Was thinking “you need to stop walking.”

by afrosupreme on Feb 7, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I am having

Quadruple bypass surgery in the next three weeks, so there. I kid you not. On the other hand, these Islanders can’t catch a break with all these defensemen getting banged up. But the new kid acquitted himself quite well last night. Hopefully, Donovan, if he is next on the ferry, will do the same.

by kennyboy13 on Feb 8, 2012 6:47 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

whoa

How are you even alive watching this team?

Seriously – be well and take care of yourself.

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by mikb on Feb 8, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Actually

I have been feeling pretty good the last few months since my doctor told me to lose 20 pounds. I’m in pretty good shape considering. I walk every day and all that, don’t feel short of breath, heart rate and blood pressure OK. Just have to make sure I don’t get too excited, even when I watch Staios mess up. Of course, if a certain goalie were still around… The prospect of the Isles making a run at the playoffs after such a long dry spell is a reason to keep going. Good to see them playing as well as they are. Know what I mean Garik?

by kennyboy13 on Feb 8, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Walking and cleaning up your diet are the best things you can do for your body.

There are tons of studies out there that explain just how much of a difference walking more can change your life, it’s incredible. The average person walks around 1-1.5miles/day and a study found you should walk a total of 4-5miles/day for optimal health. That’s a huge margin and really shows how sedentary people have become. Even walking an extra 2miles/day is supposed to cut most cardiac and other related death risks in half.

Good luck on your surgery.

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by OzzyFan on Feb 8, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

I was walking five to six miles a day – have been for years – but the cardiologist told me to cut that in half, especially with how cold it gets here in February, and I hardly take any alcohol at all. My diet has always been pretty healthy.

by kennyboy13 on Feb 8, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Good luck with the surgery!

I think you have all of us here trumped … until a certain goalie creates an account and says, “yeah, well, I’m about to have three organs removed.”

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Channel the Giants 6 game run to the championship.

7-7 to 9-7 and Super Bowl Champions.

Isles: 22-22-8 (NHL .500)… one can dream. JT does remind me of Eli.

Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...

by Turgeon1992 on Feb 7, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Just for

Johnny Tortilla’s post series press conference tete a tete with Larry Brooks:

T: We know what we did.

B: What did you do?

T: Brooksie if I wanted ta explain it to ya I would. By the way, have you ever gotten laid?

B: Well, um, uh, a few times, uh, I don’t know…

T: Well then get the f—- outta here.

B: Well, uh, OK, I will.

by kennyboy13 on Feb 8, 2012 6:58 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

BTW watching the

Leafs – Peg game, great Leafs suck chant.

by ghalbart on Feb 7, 2012 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

Nabokov was AMAZING TONIGHT!!!!!!

Holy crap… AMAZING.
He completely stole this game for the Isles!

Actually a lot of the Isles looked pretty good tonight- but the Flyers just took it to them from the midway point onward. It is amazing that the Isles won.

AND THEY ARE AT NHL-.500!!!! Whoooo! :D

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Feb 7, 2012 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

I think youre right

Unless you count the first games of the season.

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by TheMetalChick on Feb 7, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i know this has been reported everywhere, but it's wrong

At least if you go by games played.Through 52 games in 09-10 they were at 23-21-8. They fell below .500 three games later and never reached it again that season, though coming close at just one game under through 79 games. Anyway, technically it would be their best record this late if they maintain their .500 this season through 55 (or more) games. As those games in the 50’s were played earlier in the year in 2010 due to the Olympic break, they indeed have never been at .500 in February since 2008 and I think that’s why it’s been reported as their first time at .500 this late since 2008.

by BenHasna on Feb 8, 2012 6:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Great points!

I am pretty sure I read that over at Forever1940- your explanation makes a lot of sense :)

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by TheMetalChick on Feb 8, 2012 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Ahh, memories

I remember that 20-save 4-0 DiPietro shutout of New Jersey.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

me too

You know I miss the kind of hockey they played back then a little… I know it might not always have worked, but when it did, it was so great to watch. And in that game against the Devils there it sure did. They were so sharp, all over the Devils with their speed and pressure. Actually, not sure if you can call it the best game they’ve played in years because obviously the Devils didn’t seem to ready to play that night, but yeah, as far as I can remember that’s the most dominant game they’ve played over the last few years.

by BenHasna on Feb 9, 2012 7:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I do too

I was excited by the experiment. Still wish Gordon had better pieces to try and make it work. When it was on, it was great fun.

That night sticks out to me because DiPietro’s shutout required so little work, they played so complete.

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by Dominik on Feb 9, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

we're making the playoffs

get used to it

who’s got a picture of Tug McGraw they can share?

by Cary K on Feb 7, 2012 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

Ya gotta Believe!!!

Now we need old Willie Mays to pinch hit

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by FireGarthSnow on Feb 7, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

OMG the Tugger! Tug McGraw, wat cool.

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by Russel Ginart on Feb 8, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Nabby stole it alright

Just finished watching a condensed version of the game,lol. Nabokov had one of those calm, stand on his head performances. Too bad there is almost zero chance of him re-signing. Thought the Flyers would really take it to the Isles after their embarrassing weekend against the 666er’s and Rags. Hope Reese isn’t that bad. We need another D-man out long term like we need another old ex-Devils player making 5 million dollars a season.

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by FireGarthSnow on Feb 7, 2012 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

pretty sure

he used either Just for Men or somehow had Frans Laser off all his Grey Hairs once he was signed .

by ghalbart on Feb 7, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Brad Dalgarno being a definite exception.

That man looks GOOD. :)

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by TheMetalChick on Feb 7, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It's got a Zamboni motor

Zamboni shocks, Zamboni tires, Zamboni suspensions. It was made back in the Original Six era so it runs good on regular.

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by mikb on Feb 8, 2012 1:32 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh wow

In the tradition of the Battle of California, it looks like Philly has just been Tri-State Raped.

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by Keith Quinn on Feb 7, 2012 10:48 PM EST reply actions  

Sweet

It seems so much more laid back when it’s California.

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by Dominik on Feb 7, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldnt worry about Tavares...

He is human and will have his streaks…

by KO21 on Feb 7, 2012 10:52 PM EST reply actions  

Not worried at all

Even the immortals will have their streaks.

I really liked how he forced that penalty in the third.

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by Dominik on Feb 7, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a nice power move...

He getting frustrated ya know hes pressuring himself to score for his team…He’s just gotta relax and just “do what he do”….

by KO21 on Feb 7, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

You call it a power move, which it was...

…but his skill/timing was just as important there as his skating strength. If the defenseman gets a piece of the puck, there is no call that late in the game.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 7, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Right

It was a mix of grace & power..

by KO21 on Feb 8, 2012 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

And in the Goalie Stole One for us Dept....

Well, finally.
We finally got one…in Philly, outshot 2 to 1, injuries to 2 dmen (one of them the best we have), down to 5 dmen in the game (really 4), and a critical 2 points.
It does not get any better than that.
Its been a long, long time since we saw one.

Special aside to Nabby: you may have to do it again.

by JackandAce on Feb 7, 2012 10:58 PM EST reply actions  

They have a lot of games coming up

5 in 8 days?!!! So, yeah – they’ll need another one from him AND Montoya.

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by IslesFanInNJ on Feb 7, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

And one more thing for Nabby:
He got a hockey goalies version of the “double”- Shutout in the game, and shutout in the shootout.
Just outstanding.
Hope Al took notes.

by JackandAce on Feb 7, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

I doubt that has happened many times since they introduced the shootout.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 7, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

His save on Briere's attempt really was lovely

Great to see cocky Briere go in all slow and confident and be denied as close as can be.

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by Dominik on Feb 7, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

And just without Hamonic ... now maybe Reese's injury makes it worse

If Jurcina isn’t ready to go, it will be interesting what they do. No sheltering the rookie callups, right? Or will they bury them on a protected third pair?

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by Dominik on Feb 7, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

every time we get a legit nhl goalie

Who can actually steal games, we have to trade him for a prospect/pick. Rebuilds can really be discouraging.

by randyboyd on Feb 7, 2012 11:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Bailey

I’ve complained often about him, but he was particularly sharp tonight. In addition to a couple of “almosts,” he made a couple of very good defensive plays.
And Eaton was great also.

by JackandAce on Feb 7, 2012 11:10 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Welcome!

"The reader of this sentence exists only while reading me."

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 7, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Welcome, sir

And even a citation with your comment. That’s working OT.

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by Dominik on Feb 7, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha, nice! :)

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by TheMetalChick on Feb 7, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait a minute- whats with that weird-ass hat????

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Feb 8, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

that would be the hat from the meme Scumbag Steve

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/scumbag-steve

however, whoever made the photo did it wrong

Why yes, I do have a man crush on Bailey and Martin, and no, I don't care what you think about it

by DarthDoyle on Feb 8, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I… OK. Wow. OK.
But why is it on Nabokov lol?

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by TheMetalChick on Feb 8, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

because whoever created the pic doesn't understand memes and the internet

If anything it should have been good guy greg (look it up on the same site) with something along the lines of “Team didnt play well, still won us the game” or success kid saying the same thing.

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by DarthDoyle on Feb 8, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think

It’s done from a philly standpoint. Hence nabby being scumbag steve.

I, myself, prefer bad pun racoon.

by Bleuchz on Feb 8, 2012 1:10 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Didn't even notice the hat. Woops.

But I got it from the hockeys future Islander board so I doubt it was a philly fan but who knows.

by Chris Goldman on Feb 8, 2012 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

for me it's insanity wolf

just some of the wonders that is this meme

http://www.quickmeme.com/Insanity-Wolf/popular/1/

SOMEWHAT NSFW

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by DarthDoyle on Feb 8, 2012 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

That was surprisingly pleasing

Man, the more you know.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the explanation.

You are surprisingly meme-knowledgable!

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by TheMetalChick on Feb 8, 2012 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

but I don’t know how to use sarcasm font or link images to these forums….

by Bleuchz on Feb 8, 2012 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

you have just confirmed my fears that i spend too much time in the internet

time for me to try and get a life…wait…its pulling me back in…NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO

damn you internet

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by DarthDoyle on Feb 8, 2012 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Somebody stop him

Please somebody stop George Lucas, HE’S RAPING ME, HE’S RAPING MY CHILDHOOD

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by DarthDoyle on Feb 8, 2012 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

realy

Why yes, I do have a man crush on Bailey and Martin, and no, I don't care what you think about it

by DarthDoyle on Feb 8, 2012 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Yay Scumbag Nabby!

This is a meme I can get behind.

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by Fabtraption on Feb 8, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

THE ATLANTIC DIVISION

is fierce. (but we all knew that)

5th place. DEAD LAST. DEAD LAST IN THE ATLANTIC DIVISION. Is yours truly, the New York Islanders… and we sit at NHL .500… at 22-22-8.

The 4th Place Cindy Crosbys are a remarkable 30-19-5.. 4TH PLACE TEAM IN A DIVISION. Just not far.

If we win the next games… our PPG % will put us into 10th.. The last place team in a division in 10th.. nevermind that we are already in 11th…. anddddd that one division (the always miserable Southeast) currently (at this rate) will only have its division champion in the playoffs as an absurd #3 overall seed.

by BaltimoreIslander on Feb 7, 2012 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

Atlantic has had 4 teams make it

And the Isles werent always the team that didnt make it, either.

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by TheMetalChick on Feb 8, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I just went back and looked on Wikipedia at all the final standings in the seasons of divisions three.

There have been plenty of four-team playoff divisions (especially with the weakness of the Southeast up until like four years ago) but no division ever sent them all.

by sayvillelax94 on Feb 8, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

It just feels that way.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 8, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Screw the Atlantic

Isles-Philly? Devils-Rags? Both games 1-0? This was old school Patrick Division, baby.

Alas, Washington and P’burgh both played, but not each other. Then we would have been absolutely set.

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by mikb on Feb 8, 2012 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Fenwick tied is up to 50% now

And Fenwick close is at 49.38%, low middle of the pack. I’m gonna bet tonight’s game knocks that down a little.

Weird team with the heavy imbalance in lines, but maybe 5-on-5 is better than the goal differential looks.

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by Dominik on Feb 7, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

The playoffs are all fucked up because the Southeast sucks

Seriously, it’s unbelievable that division leaders, the Washington Capitals, are in 3rd in the playoff race while the Florida Panthers, second in their division, are 9th in the conference. The Atlantic Division is ridiculously competitive.

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by Fabtraption on Feb 8, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Interesting stat

The Isles have about the 12th best road record in the NHL. (.500) Not going by points, just by who is .500 or lower. Don’t want to talk about the home record though.

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by Keith Quinn on Feb 7, 2012 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

wow...what a game...lots goin on...

Dom, you must more excited than Frans when he signed the contract…

glad Fransie is locked up. makes you wonder if PAP is gonna get an offer or what happens with Nabby?

tough to see Reese sidelined. it probably makes my previous Bryan McCabe argument look a whole lot better and still not happening. Isles barely kept it together on D, but with a little bit of fortune, they actually did their part. i wanted to kill Streit and A-Mac on their bonehead puck carrying. hopefully Juice is ok to play thursday. isles could use him and seems likely they will call up another body from bridgeport. they can’t play like this every game and it showed tonight. Nabby is great, but it’s foolish to think he’ll bail out the isles every night when something like this happens.

Josh Bailey looks like a man on a mission. loved his effort and his improvement on making things happen.

Nabby…I’m a big believer. Awesome performance! i would love to see him re-sign, but understand that’s not likely to happen. either way, another great move by Garth. he deserves the gratitude of the fans whether he gets dealt or sticks it out til april.

very excited to see how this all plays out on our way to 2-27.

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by gukid17 on Feb 7, 2012 11:28 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

If the Isles keep winning...

…I don’t think Nabokov will be moved.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 7, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Ottawa, Florida and Winnipeg can be caught with 30 games to play

Even Toronto can slip but the Isles only have to catch three teams to make the postseason.

by rickrays on Feb 7, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Isles need about 40 points in 30 games.

So, for instance, 19-9-2 would have a good shot at Isles getting in.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 8, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Listening to Garth in his recent interview made me pretty confident Nabokov isnt going anywhere

From what he said, it seems to me someone would have to make an absolutely insane offer for him.
Of course he is playing so well right now that a team desperate for a goalie might do exactly that?

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by TheMetalChick on Feb 7, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Hard to believe that some club wouldn't offer Garth a 1st round pick for Nabokov

I want Nabokov to stay a Isle as I believe they still have a chance to make the playoffs but it is tempting to get value for him while you can.

by rickrays on Feb 7, 2012 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

Chicago could use Nabokov

and they could make a offer Garth can’t refuse.

by rickrays on Feb 7, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

No. No they're not.

Especially because you’re looking at the wrong 8th seed. Florida is 7 points ahead of us, with 0 games in hand (They’ll easily pass Ottawa in their 4 games).

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by garik16 on Feb 7, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

NOW they are. But with 4 games in hand on Ottawa, they'll make up the 2 point gap in those 4 games easy.

If not go farther.

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by garik16 on Feb 7, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

also

I think Florida is very difficult to catch. Tough to tell how much they’ve been declining due to the various injuries, but fully healthy I think they’re a legit playoff team. Goc, Bergenheim, Samuelsson, Sturm, Upshall have all missed between 15 and 25 of the last 35 games each. Upshall and Sturm are still out – Jovanovski, Kulikov, Skille have been hurt recently. All are scheduled to be back by early/mid-March at the latest. I guess thanks to the return of Bergenheim-Goc-Samuelsson they’ll play at around .500 through the next four weeks and then might be in for a strong finish if they indeed will get healthy and/or active at the trade deadline.
The schedule should surely permit them to have a decent finish. They’re playing Carolina at home twice (four times in total), Ottawa at home twice, Buffalo, Edmonton, Anaheim at home once each as well as Toronto, Montreal, Winnipeg, Minnesota home and away each. So many winnable games. And they’ve been good at home (13-5-7, 11th at 52.72 % in Fenwick close). I think the Isles would need to beat two out of the trio Washington, Toronto, Ottawa.

By the way, Gabe’s shot chart telling the story of the game last night.

by BenHasna on Feb 8, 2012 7:46 AM EST up reply actions  

No. No it's not.

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by garik16 on Feb 7, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Hate to be cynical

But i have to agree with Garik. Is it possible?yes, but hes right, its not realistic. making the playoffs would still require a hell of a run from a team with a shoddy defense unbalanced scoring and overall poor 5 on 5 play. I want to believe they can, but to say its a “realistic” possibility is being overly optimistic

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by Zhora on Feb 7, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying making the playoffs is realistic (although it is very very possible)- I'm saying there's no way you can say they're not in the race right now.

I’ve waited a long time- it’s not like they’re getting some slam dunk prospect; they’re likely getting a third round pick back, who is unlikely to ever make it. I’d rather go for it and have an interesting, meaningful March.

by Metzfan22 on Feb 7, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Actually

that’s exactly what you said

Playoffs are realistic now, Islanders are legitimately no longer sellers.

I’m not saying I’m not excited about the winning, and rooting for them to make the playoffs, but you still have to focus on the long view here. Playoffs this year would be gravy, but it’s not the main goal. Another first round pick could go a long way to this team being a playoff regular down the road.

I’t just odd to me that when Nabokov had no value, everyone wanted to dump him as fast as they could. Now that he might actually have some, we should hold him?

Here’s what’s exciting about maybe trading him. Right now Garth can point to almost a month-long period where Nabby has been lights out, starting January 14 against Buffalo. 7 games, 6 wins, 2 shutouts and a 922 sv%, no game lower than 916%. The rust is off. I think we might be excited about what Garth could bring back for him, Either a first or second, or maybe as part of a package with one of our picks for a high D prospect.

by afrosupreme on Feb 8, 2012 7:57 AM EST up reply actions  

It really wouldn't be a tough call at all

If someone offers a first rounder for Nabby, Garth does his best Heath Ledger Joker voice and runs screaming hysterically to the bank with it.

This is of course why no one in their right mind would offer a first rounder for a 36 year old rental goaltender.

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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 8, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, you never know.

What other good goalies playing excellent hockey are available?

Only one out of many (10?) starting goalies needs to have an unfortunate injury for the top available goalie’s value to go shooting up. (I’m not wishing an injury upon anyone, but I’m saying there is a possibility in the next couple weeks that a non-Islanders goalie has a bad injury.)

Is anyone available more playoff-ready than our 36-year old?

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 8, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I would take a 1st rounder in a heartbeat

But I don’t expect any to move at the deadline. Nabby shouldn’t command much. He’d need to play like this for two weeks to get someone to bite that hard.

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by Dominik on Feb 7, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, pass. I want to see them go for it. I'd respect a 10th place finish rather than an extra second round pick.

But again, that’s tonight. If the Islanders lose the next 4 or 5 games, then yes, trade him for the 2nd. But if they’re still playing well and trending up, go for it.

by Metzfan22 on Feb 7, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Take the offer

I mean you can call up Poulin. Nabokov has been steadying lately, but you can hope for some play like that from Al or Poulin. Thing is, I still don’t see demand for Nabby being that high. The teams who “need” goalies are teams that will be stubborn and patient.

If it got down to a late 3rd or 4th, and the Isles were nudging closer to the 8th seed thanks to Nabby’s play alone — like Nabby was playing like the talisman — then I might stand pat just for the sake of not telling the players in that room, “sorry about your March and April, but we had a chance to get the next Anton Klementyev.” At some point, people management does enter it a little bit and that’s probably the point where I’d let myself take a marginal asset loss to give the kids a better party.

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by Dominik on Feb 7, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Not to get all sports psychologist on this

But maybe keeping Nabokov (and re-signing Frans and maybe Parenteau) becomes one of those “message senders” to the team that they are in a win-now mode. Are the playoffs gonna happen? Realistically, no. But I wouldn’t tell that to the guys going out and playing the games and taking the punishment. If holding onto Nabokov means a few more wins and a bump in team unity, I say forget the picks.

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by PGI on Feb 8, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, this is def. my concern

But I could see it being mitigated some if, say, Montoya reels off some fine games over the next week or so.

Also Fab’s point below me. I’m down with all this.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, it *was* a scoreless tie

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by Dominik on Feb 7, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll write a fanpost on this tomorrow probably,

but Garth ABSOLUTELY has to trade Nabakov. His return should be decent, but even if it’s just a 3rd rounder, he needs to do it. Can’t afford to lose him for nothing as a UFA, and he’s not a great person to re-sign.

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by garik16 on Feb 7, 2012 11:43 PM EST reply actions  

won't lie, I'm intrigued to hear the counter argument

I just think he’s played too well.. and it’s playoffs or bust..

butttt it’s also a scenario that needs to be re-examined after EVERY. SINGLE. GAME. depending on where we are in the standings.. luckily enough the 27th is far enough away

by BaltimoreIslander on Feb 7, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes I'm serious.

Small market teams need to get SOMETHING for assets that won’t be around the next year, unless they are extremely likely playoff contenders (or are going to be title contenders). We are not.

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by garik16 on Feb 7, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

It's more beneficial for the team to go for it, especially when they're a bubble team, which the Islanders undoubtedly are right now. They're not 14th or 15th in the conference; they're 11th and have games in hand on everybody.

Fans will show up if they go for it and keep playing well. That will add a little more revenue and add some hope and optimism for next year. That’s much more valuable to me than a third round pick that is so unlikely to ever make it. If they traded him now, the fans would overwhelmingly see the Isles as raising the white flag and think “same old Islanders.”

by Metzfan22 on Feb 7, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I still kind of agree with this

but if we push it to 3-5 points by the 27th… you can’t say we won’t be serious playoff contenders…

and we’ve all seen crazy things happen during the playoffs… and if we make the playoffs I have a feeling it’s b/c Nabokov helped to put us there… goalies=playoff success.

I would not go out and trade him away.. but if we’re looking at 9 points on the 27th.. he’s gotta go.

by BaltimoreIslander on Feb 7, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

3 Points.

5 is pushing it.

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by garik16 on Feb 7, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

21 games left from the 27th to the end

(Trade Deadline at 3 PM EST… so the Ottawa game on the 27th does not count) or maybe it’s 5 PM EST.. either way not counting Ottawa

5 points in 21 games is absolutely not pushing it… especially considering we would’ve cut the distance down from now until then, means we will be trending up a bit.

by BaltimoreIslander on Feb 7, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends upon how many teams are in between us

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by garik16 on Feb 7, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

sad but true

The most annoying thing about the damned 3-point games… harder to gain ground because those teams play each other and yo’re guaranteed not to gain at all on the winner, and might only net one point on the loser. Stupid extra point.

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by mikb on Feb 8, 2012 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

From Zorak

Assuming teams continue to earn points at the same rate as their last 10 games, this is what the standings will look like at the end of the season.

Western Conference
          GP   W   L OTL  PTS   SO LAST10  W-L  PRJ
VAN (NW)  53  33  15   5   71  5-5  7-1-2  +18  117
DET (C)   54  35  17   2   72  6-1  7-2-1  +18  114
SJS (P)   50  29  15   6   64  6-3  5-4-1  +14   99
STL (C)   52  31  14   7   69  1-6  6-2-2  +17  111
NAS (C)   54  32  17   5   69  3-2  7-2-1  +15  111
LAK (P)   54  26  18  10   62  4-6  5-3-2   +8   96
ANA (P)   52  20  24   8   48  2-4  7-2-1   -4   93
CGY (NW)  53  24  22   7   55  2-4  5-3-2   +2   90
---------------------------------------------------
PHX (P)   54  25  21   8   58  2-5  5-4-1   +4   89
CHI (C)   54  29  18   7   65  4-3  3-5-2  +11   87
COL (NW)  55  27  25   3   57  7-1  4-5-1   +2   81
MIN (NW)  53  25  20   8   58  5-6  3-5-2   +5   81
EDM (NW)  53  21  27   5   47  3-4  5-4-1   -6   79
DAL (P)   52  27  23   2   56  4-2  3-6-1   +4   77
CBJ (C)   53  15  32   6   36  3-5  3-6-1  -17   56
       Eastern Conference
          GP   W   L OTL  PTS   SO LAST10  W-L  PRJ
NYR (A)   51  33  13   5   71  3-4  6-3-1  +20  111
BOS (NE)  51  33  16   2   68  5-1  5-4-1  +17  102
TBL (SE)  52  23  24   5   51  2-3  6-3-1   -1   90
NJD (A)   53  31  19   3   65  9-2  7-2-1  +12  109
PIT (A)   54  30  19   5   65  7-3  7-2-1  +11  107
PHI (A)   53  30  16   7   67  1-5  4-3-3  +14   99
TOR (NE)  54  28  20   6   62  3-3  6-3-1   +8   98
NYI (A)   52  22  22   8   52  4-3  6-2-2   +0   94
---------------------------------------------------
WSH (SE)  53  28  21   4   60  1-2  4-4-2   +7   89
CAR (SE)  54  20  25   9   49  0-4  6-2-2   -5   88
FLA (SE)  52  24  17  11   59  3-6  3-4-3   +7   86
MTL (NE)  54  21  24   9   51  2-7  5-4-1   -3   82
WPG (SE)  55  25  24   6   56  2-3  4-5-1   +1   80
BUF (NE)  52  22  24   6   50  4-3  4-5-1   -2   77
OTT (NE)  56  27  22   7   61  5-2  2-7-1   +5   74

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by Torgo on Feb 8, 2012 6:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea

This was in a comment on CopprNBlue, and it’s the biggest reason we won’t make the playoffs:

Just because the standings "look" closer under the current system doesn’t necessarily make them closer. It is very difficult to make up, say, half a dozen points, especially with all those extra points being given to losers of other games. Nowadays you win in regulation and two rivals go to OT, you make up one point on one of them and none on the other.

by afrosupreme on Feb 8, 2012 8:03 AM EST up reply actions  

With all due respect., it is from CopperNBlue

Not saying its not a valid statement, but those guys have to be a little bitter based on their position in the standings the past few years

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 8, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure I follow

The Oilers haven’t even been anywhere near striking distance from the playoffs. He’s talking about how hard it is for teams who think they are on the bubble to make up what seems to be a small number of points (6) because of the extra points flying around. They aren’t really on the bubble, because there are usually a good 4-5 teams ahead of them, who are all playing each other, on top of the bonus point, so teams in front of you are constantly earning points. 6 points is actually a whole lot to make up at this point in the season.

by afrosupreme on Feb 8, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not even thinking for the playoffs

Im thinking for beyond. This team hasn’t had stability in goal for almost five years. Five! Now we have a guy who historically has been pretty damn good, playing out of his mind, rarely ever injured that can solidify the position until its certain that someone else can grab the reigns and we want to trade him for the next Jason Clark?

Seems nuts to me. His value to this team is far too big. Did you see the smiles and te glowing reviews he’s getting from teammates? That for a guy who originally turned his back on the franchise is pretty impressive. He’s made believers of his teammates and gives them a chance to win every night now.

When’s the last time “the team was deflated by a soft goal”? I’m all for smart asset management, I just don’t think it applies in this case.

For a guy who is usually so bent on the small sample size goalie issue, I’m surprised you’d be so willing to turn the team back over to the crop of goalies that would still be here. I believe in them too, but Nabby has TEH PEDIGREE.

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by Keith Quinn on Feb 8, 2012 7:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

Yeah but Nabby also has TEH VALUE

and Garth Snow has TEH EGO

Makes for a volatile trade deadline mixture.

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 8, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of goaltending stability

One of the mock drafts on NHL.com has the Islanders taking Malcolm Subban with the 6th pick.

Steve Hoffner’s logic:

Do the Isles need another goalie? No. Do they need a good one? Yes.

Guess his crystal ball has Poulin and Nilsson already being busts, and no shot of regaining Nabokov or Montoya becoming a number one. That’s exactly what Garth Snow should do, draft a Top 10 goalie (this was too sarcastic to even use the sarcasm font)

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 8, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

What is your offer, then, to Nabby?

$3 million for one season? $5 million for two? Would that be enough to tempt Nabby to stay?

And what if the 37-year old goalie starts to fall apart next season? Will Poulin be ready? (I’d much rather see a one-year deal than a two-year deal for Nabby.)

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 8, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure either one matters

If you’re overpaying him to be a backup in his second year, I wouldn’t expect a tremendous drop off…and if there is, He can be waived. I would go as high as 3.5 million per unless internal spending issues preclude it. They are still far below the cap floor and at this point, Nabby is underpaid.

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by Keith Quinn on Feb 8, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm more concerned about Nabby falling apart next season

It doesn’t appear to be likely, but never know when age will catch up to a goalie. (I suppose there is probably more of a chance that we re-sign Montoya and he has nagging concussion issues.)

There are SOOO many variables with the goaltending right now, even ignoring Rick.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 8, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

There is zero question that this is the case

And as I said above, his value won’t ever be higher.

by afrosupreme on Feb 8, 2012 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

The key for Nabakov being traded is this:

It has to be done quickly. The market for goalies is tiny – there are teams who will trade for a goalie rental, but there are usually no more than 1-2. The end result is that if you hold on for a better price for too long, there will be no buyers, even if you always had the best goalie on the market.

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by garik16 on Feb 7, 2012 11:45 PM EST reply actions  

Nabokov far and away is the best goalie on the market

If he’s available at the deadline the Isles will get good value for him and most likely a 1st round pick. He’s playing like he used to and that is as a top 10 NHL goalie. Plus you have to remember how cheap he will cost any team with his low salary. Even teams who are near the cap can fit Nabokov in without moving a roster player which is huge.

by rickrays on Feb 7, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats not what has happened in previous years.

If you wait too long, the teams who need goalies will be gone.

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by garik16 on Feb 7, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

A goalie like Nabokov was not available

Again with his low salary he can offered at deadline. Garth’s cell phone is probably blowing up right now and it will till the deadline. Snow just has to decide what’s best for the franchise. How smart Garth could look landing a 1st round pick plus a prospect for Nabokov.

by rickrays on Feb 8, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

He could theoretically get a late 1st.

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by garik16 on Feb 8, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Ala the Campoli trade.

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by garik16 on Feb 8, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes he could

You don’t think Chicago is desperate right now? You think they care about a 1st round pick and a prospect more than going on a Cup run? Chicago has no chance to win a Cup with what they have now in goal. Multiple teams could offer a 1st round round pick for Nabokov but I believe Chicago could make the best offer.

by rickrays on Feb 8, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

The problem is Chicago was in this same situation in 2010

And they won the Cup. Remember how they were supposed to be desperate for Biron or Roloson, but Snow supposedly asked for too much? Apparently they weren’t so desperate after all.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

They won't have home advantage like they had in 2010

You can’t compare 2010 to 2012 and Nabokov is > Biron or Roloson. Chicago had the talent in 2010 to overcome issues in goal but they haven’t been able to overcome those issues in 2011 and 2012. A lot of pressure is going to be made by the media and fans in Chicago to make a move and Garth should demand a high price.

by rickrays on Feb 8, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

When he demands a high price

I’m betting Chicago will say, “No thanks, we’ll look elsewhere or stand pat.” This is the conundrum.

(Also, I don’t see why Nabby is clearly > Biron or Roloson at that time. Okay maybe Biron because he was having a crappy season.)

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you overrate Nabakov personally.

Yes he’s doing great right now, but teams won’t forget that for his career, he’s generally an average goalie.

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by garik16 on Feb 8, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Now that's where I'm not so sure

You’d think they’d remember that, but sometimes they’ll get all “need a steady veteran/playoff experience” on the situation.

I mean, heh, what if it’s Philly who wants him? Their record in this situation is … unsound. (Not that I’m expecting a 1st — I’m not — but they might overrate him.)

But if Chicago and Detroit are the playoff teams with goalie issues I don’t see either one accepting the hard sell. And I don’t see any other bubble or contender teams that could see themselves in need.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

If Philly didn't just pay that amount for Bryz, I'd agree.

But not now.

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by garik16 on Feb 8, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

He isn't now

and in many a dumb GM’s eyes. lol. Sell high baby :)

by rickrays on Feb 8, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously people, Islanders' odds of making the playoffs are currently under 6%

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by garik16 on Feb 7, 2012 11:49 PM EST reply actions  

Rec'd; I do love the Star Wars back and forth lol but those odds change by the minute. If the Islanders win the next game and Ottawa loses another, I'm sure those odds would go up to 10%.

The Islanders are in the race and could make this finish really exciting and really up the confidence for next year. That’s more valuable to me then another third rounder.

by Metzfan22 on Feb 7, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

You have to realize

that 6% includes those games in hand?
I’m not saying we won’t make it but to hold onto a goalie who may just walk and get nothing in return….

by Bleuchz on Feb 8, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather him walk and get nothing then wave the white flag again for a third round pick that will never be anything anyway. Another "Anton Klementiev," as someone wrote earlier.

These kids have played their way back into the conversation. They’ve earned a chance to go for it. That will be better for the future than some third rounder.

by Metzfan22 on Feb 8, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, one thing Garth has proven is

his ability to draft value in the later rounds, which is why I’d likely take a 3rd rounder for Nabby, if offered. I don’t see a 2nd round pick being offered, but you never know as the deadline approaches.

Two years ago I swore (and still believe it to this day) that had the Caps made a trade for Roloson, they’d have reached the SC Finals.

by 4PeatSake on Feb 8, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't mean to be a douche here

Yes, Snow has definitely shown he can steal a gem in later rounds in the draft, and yes, Nielsen absolutely qualifies as a steal… but Fransie was a Milbury draft pick. I KNOW RIGHT?

We’re really lucky that Mad Mike stepped down when he did, because odds are he would’ve traded him for a sixth round pick and used it on some Japanese player or something.

by sayvillelax94 on Feb 8, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Mad Mike's problem

was not a lack of an eye for talent.
It was a lack of focus.

What I like about Snow is for better or worse he has stuck with a plan.

by Bleuchz on Feb 9, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

They wouldn't go up to 10%

They barely budge on a daily basis at this point. It won’t be until the very end of the year that they start to move drastically game to game (for teams still in it).

by afrosupreme on Feb 8, 2012 8:07 AM EST up reply actions  

chances we could get an actual player for Nabby?

LIke a Red Wings D prospect, similarly how we got Wishart for Rolli, albeit that seems like it could go both ways, but at least its a tangible asset, and D men take longer to get to NHL level anyway… thoughts?

by jlm11092 on Feb 7, 2012 11:59 PM EST reply actions  

In all honesty, I'd rather a draft pick.

Actual players will have lower ceilings than the draft pick (due to the lower risk). With a decent prospect system, I’d rather have more picks because we have a decent number of lower risk assets in the system, and we can afford to shoot for the moon.

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by garik16 on Feb 8, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Not exactly thrilled with Wishart

I don’t even think Wishart will be with the organization next year. I’ll take a 1st round pick and a prospect because Nabokov>Roloson.

by rickrays on Feb 8, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh if we could land a first round pick I’d go with that as well

by jlm11092 on Feb 8, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait and See on Nabokov

Patience. Patience. He’s had a stellar, game stealing performance tonight, but the next 8 or so games before the deadline will give us all a look at where we stand with regards to the playoff push. Yes, as Garik mentioned, we are at a very low percentage chance of making it, but those odds improve with every point picked up in those games.

Nabokov’s trade value has (slightly) improved as a result of tonight. But if he continues this stellar play and the Islanders go something like 5-1-2 or 4-1-3 over this next 8, you have to keep him. I’m in agreement that the team’s push for relevance is more important than another pick who may or may not contribute to the team in the long run. The only offer I would consider hearing if I was Snow at that point would have to involve at least a late 1st round pick.

However, if we know by the deadline we have fallen out of contention, cut him loose and get the best asset that will help the team moving forward. You have to figure the team will be better overall next year with all of the prospects maturing and the veterans gone, so we’ll see.

by jgimps on Feb 8, 2012 12:30 AM EST reply actions  

Just think Frans will be with the Isles the first year they are in Brooklyn

We can say FAWGETABOWTIT when he scores in the SO.

By the way when do we see the new logo with Brooklyn and Queens added to it?

by rickrays on Feb 8, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Already on the logo…

by jlm11092 on Feb 8, 2012 1:29 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

No, it actually isnt.

The Islanders logo only shows the Nassau/Suffolk portion of Long Island.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Feb 8, 2012 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

OT

One nice thing is Crappy hasn’t pulled the goalie with 3+ minutes left in the game for a while.

#brightside

=d

by AP77 on Feb 8, 2012 12:40 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

NOW you're just trolling...

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Feb 8, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

haha I like the emphasis on now, like this is AP's first journey into Troll-town

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 8, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I definitely understand AP77's sense of humor

but c’mon, Capuano didn’t do anything in that game to merit such a silly response. The defense was abysmal, but what else do you expect when

1) Dylan Reese goes down with a serious leg injury
2) Aaron Ness plays his first NHL game…ever
3) your best defenseman (Hamonic) and biggest defenseman (Jurcina) are out with injuries
4) the team was forced to essentially play four defensemen the entire game
5) Staois and Eaton are forced to play important minutes

Nabby was a beast all game, but I’m going to give some credit to the defense for playing a relatively decent game given all the limitations they had. The fact that they helped manage to keep the game to a 0-0 tie through OT was impressive.

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by Fabtraption on Feb 8, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you’re taking the comment a little too seriously. :)

=d

by AP77 on Feb 8, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Unless there is a great offer...

…keep Nabokov unless/until Isles fall off of the recent .667 points percentage pace. His trade value may go up or down in the next couple weeks. That’s fine.

If Isles fall out of contention and end up trading Nabby and their 2nd rounder for another team’s late 1st rounder, I would be happy with that.

But I would be even happier if they could re-sign Nabby and Montoya.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 8, 2012 12:42 AM EST reply actions  

happiness

is the danish backhand of justice

Wondering if the Islanders will start calling their goalies Cerberus ...

by Nomore_Okposto on Feb 8, 2012 1:13 AM EST reply actions  

Happiness would be someone getting me a danish

to go with my coffee while I read all these comments about the backhand

The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.

by Chris McNally on Feb 8, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Ness

I can think of two plays where I yelled for him and no plays where I yelled against him.
17 minutes he played I think?

The whole team looked kinda shabby tonight tho any thoughts from the more observant?

by Bleuchz on Feb 8, 2012 1:25 AM EST reply actions  

I was watching Ness pretty carefully.

It was certainly a good 1st game. Not as outstanding as de Haan’s, but a totally different (higher pressure) situation, and he didn’t make any glaring mistakes, it seemed. He was better than I thought he would be along the boards. Still has to be careful there, because with his (lack of) size, if he gets pinned on the wrong side of the player, he won’t be able to get back to the goal in time. But that’s where his team mates need to help out a little. (And a larger defenseman can run into the same problem— just seems more likely when you’re smaller.)

He made one nice, physical play along the boards— I actually thought he might get called for boarding. But perhaps he didn’t get called because he was much smaller than the opponent. (We see that a lot with guys like Gionta and Gerbe. Almost like refs are saying to themselves, “No way he can commit a boarding penalty at his size.”)

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 8, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

My favorite play of Ness's last night

was seeing him pinning Maxime Talbot along the boards.

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by Fabtraption on Feb 8, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

This, yes!
because with his (lack of) size, if he gets pinned on the wrong side of the player,

That hadn’t occurred to me before last night, but I noticed it even on the whoa-whoa-almost scramble in the neutral zone where he broke up the play well but it took a few bad bounces and for a moment it looked like he’d simply be boxed out. This is a concern.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Goalie Stole a win.

I’ve watched this happen against us year after year so the league owes us another 199 of these before I’ll feel guilty.
Hey I love this sight Dom your so great . obligatory rant against the Islanders

Oh wait I’m not trying to post on point blank!!!!! Do love the sight and Appreciate all the work from all the writers…. Thank you for the forum

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by Scoobahgee on Feb 8, 2012 1:27 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Flyers looked like they were going out of their minds last night

Dom had me nodding my head in agreement with this observation:

It’s a fun sight when a goalie is in a team’s head

OH, YES IT IS! The best demonstration of this came when Scott Harnell did a quick shot on the net after he stole the puck from an unsuspecting MacDonald in the Isles’ defensive corner. After Nabby nonchalantly caught the shot, Hartnell just stood there staring at Nabby with a look on his face that I interpreted as “I give up.”

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by Captdallas on Feb 8, 2012 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

That look of frustration was priceless.

Also, did Cappy get a haircut so the 1st row fans would stop taking pictures of his coif on their I-Phones?

by 4PeatSake on Feb 8, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

There must have been a contest.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 8, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm going to throw out one possibility for a huge return on Nabby

I’m firmly of the view that as an asset, he’s not worth much, no matter how well he plays for us in the next 7-10 days. I’d love to see meaningful games the last two weeks of March, but I recognize the odds against that. However, I think that if Nabby’ not going to fetch a significant return, we keep him to the end of the year, kick his tires to see if he’ll sign a one year deal for 12-13 and move on.

For a SC contender to make “an offer Garth can’t refuse”, they need to be a little desperate and there’s only one team that fits that category right now: Detroit. With Jimmy Howard down, they’re relying on Joey MacDonald and Ty Conklin to keep them in first place in their division — and make no mistake, we jke about how competitive the Atlantic Division is. It’s a pillow fight compared to what’s going on with Detroit, Nashville, St Louis and Chicago. The one thing that a contending team in that Central Division wants is to finish 2nd or 3rd in that division. If you look at the “Projected Standings” up above, the 4-5 playoff round could easily be between teams with 111 points each. Think about that for a second.

Right now, Detroit is 3 points up on Nashville and St Louis. If that lead starts to slip, because of good, but not great goaltending, then there will pressure on Holland to make a move for an upgrade. Right nw he’stalking al calm and stay the course but if he’s looking at a playoff series with a 110 point team, especially one without home ice advantage, that could shake something loose.

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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 8, 2012 9:31 AM EST reply actions  

I have to learn to proof before posting

“The one thing that a contending team WANTS TO AVOID is finishing 2nd or 3rd in that division.”

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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 8, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

As we float down from the cloud...

it really doesn’t make any sense to keep nabby off the table if they are not going to sign him for next year.
1. Just like PAP and [formerly] Frans, there will be trade value for an expiring asset. Unlike PAP Evgeni can be adequately replaced to give them only slightly less of a playoff chance.
2. With 30 games left I’d like ALL of the goaltending questions to be answered in that time frame. 2a. There is now a debate between whether Montoya or Nabby is the better choice as a number one next year. Hammer that out by signing one and trading the other.
2b. Is Poulin ready to be a backup NHL goaltender. Do you want Poulin being a backup, while Nilsson and/or Koskinen(?) get the bulk of work in BPT.
2c. What the heck is up with Montoya anyway. Is he fully healthy, has he been?
3. What is Nabby looking for in dollars and terms. If you’re not going to meet that in July you should get something for him in February.
4. Can this team get to the playoffs with Montoya (health?), Poulin (youth) and Nilsson(youth) as their three main goaltenders?
5. What is montoya looking for and are you willing to meet that price? I’m guessing his price is dropping, but you never know what somebody will offer him in July.

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by JPinVA on Feb 8, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Some considerations:

1. Snow’s proven ability to get value with 3rd round picks
2. Snow’s proven success in signing FA goalies (Roloson, Nabby after tolling his arse)
3. Terrible chemistry between Rutgaizer and Nabby….those interviews are so awkward, they’re painful to watch.

by 4PeatSake on Feb 8, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

My response

(1) The question is whether the value of having Nabby play the last 6 weeks is greater than the value of a late third round pick (80-90 overall) — I think it quite probably is.

(2) I don’t think there is any question that Nabby is a better choice for #1 than Montoya. I’m not even convinced that Montoya is a good choice at all. The only way we go into next season with no questions in goal is with Nabby/Poulin.

The rest is all questions.

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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 8, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I watched one of last couple Wings games

MacDonald looked good, but Wings still lost against Coyotes. I heard from a big Wings fan that Howard was playing amazing hockey for them this season, so I’m guessing Wings are collapsing their defense more without Howard, and that probably leads to less scoring chances for Wings. (Like how Isles collapsed all 5 skaters in the 3rd last game, to make up for defensemen, but not to that extreme.)

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 8, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Another way to look at it...

This year v last year:
This year
52-22-22-8-52-122-147
Last year:
52-17-29-6-40-126-166
This is better news than worrying about how we can make the playoffs. Over the first 52 games they have 12 more points than last year, have scored 4 fewer goals, but have chopped off 19 goals against. It would be hard for them to continue the FEB/MAR 2011 pace, but if they did they would have 84 points. A very good improvement over last year’s mark, but not quite in the playoff race in April.
NYI 2008-09(61),2009-10(79),2010-11(73), 2011-12(?)
TOR 2008-09(81),2009-10(74),2010-11(85), 2011-12(?)
This is where TOR was last year, and look where TOR is this year. We have better forwards, and they have better D. So guess what we need to do ASAP. We were probably a year behind them because Milbury left the organization in complete disrepair, and the Isles tried for two years to make things wiork with scotch tape and Elmer’s glue.

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by JPinVA on Feb 8, 2012 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

Next Day Hangover...

Why are the Sabres on NBCSN/Versus almost every night? They are 1 point from being tied for last in the Eastern Conference.

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