Hamonic Out Two Weeks With Broken Nose
Begin speculation on how he will be replaced in the lineup. Bear in mind though that the Isles have a full complement of defensemen already depending on Milan Jurcina's status (day to day with an elbow laceration).
Their next game is Tuesday at Philadelphia. Not exactly a friendly environment for rookie defensemen and close enough in proximity that a call up may not happen until gameday, especially if they're viewing it as an "insurance" call up. Their next three after that are at home.
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This is not good. Time to tighten up.
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by PGI on Feb 5, 2012 2:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Crappy
But at least it’s not worse, right? With the blood and the proximity to his eyes and orbital bone, I’m glad he’ll otherwise be okay.
by brother_rat on Feb 5, 2012 2:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yes, at least it's not worse.
I imagine part of the time out will be so that they can help Travis breathe from his nose. (And do all that they can to prevent infection.)
If it weren’t the Flyers Tuesday, I’d say bring de Haan back up, because he looked really good in his 1st game for Isles. But adding de Haan would make the defense even softer physically.
It may be Mottau. Isles still have him, right? If I remember correctly, they paired him with Reese for a while and that pairing actually looked pretty decent. (I would not endorse this move, but I would sort of understand it.)
I’d like to see Wishart or Donovan, just because we haven’t seen either this season.
No matter who Isles bring up, it will be rough with Staios as the only “tough guy” on defense, and I use that term liberally, describing his style of play rather than the quality of his physicality. And AMac seems much better with Hamonic than with anyone else he’s been paired with.
As good as they’ve been together, it may be time to break up the 1st line. If the 3rd and 4th lines play as poorly offensively as they have in the past month, it may be a looooong two weeks. My suggestion:
Moulson-Tavares-Nino (He’s not working as a 4th liner. Can he work here?)
Ullstrom-Bailey-Parenteau (Ullstrom-Bailey works. Adding PAP to any line works.)
Grabner-Nielsen-Okposo (They were okay last February, right?)
Or Martin could be on any of those lines.
A lot of the offense hinges on Bailey’s line. If they can be dangerous, that will open things up for the other two lines. Rhett hasn’t looked as promising as Ullstrom, so why not switch the two? (I know, it’s only been 3 games.)
And if the 4th line isn’t going to create offense, why not make it a “pest” line? Bring up Dibo, because he’d be more effective in that role than Wallace or Nino. I wouldn’t mind seeing a 4th line of Dibo-Pandolfo-Martin.
Nino is hurting the team as a 4th liner more than he is helping it. He really is Exhibit ‘A’ for why some 19-year olds should be able to play in the AHL.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 5, 2012 3:23 PM EST reply actions
My money's (reluctantly) on Mottau to play Tuesday
Only because he’s here already and they can let Bridgeport do what its been doing. Now, should he play, I may choose to not watch the game for fear I may experience rage-induced nausea. But he’s probably the likeliest suspect.
(PS: I hope I’m wrong)
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by PGI on Feb 5, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Mottau is on IR
So he’d have to come off. I don’t remember gain skating with the team lately, but I think he was at Casino night.
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by Keith Quinn on Feb 5, 2012 3:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Bridgeport
Is on a bit of a break, no games again till Saturday night. So it isn’t a worry to call someone up.
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Thanks, guys
You set my mind at ease. Sadly, this was my worry with Hamonic out. I thought Mottau was just sitting.
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by PGI on Feb 5, 2012 4:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
deHaan is not available
Still out. I think Katic is two weeks away from contact clearance, and he’s ahead of dehaan according to Thompson (via Fornabaio).
If emergency status is in play Wishart is a no-brainer. If not, I’d still go with Wishart for the rest of the year. The simple two-week fix is most likely Donovan. I haven’t seen him play yet, but Thompson call-up, Brandon Gentile seems to be doing all the right things. He’s a possible wildcard. Maybe a platoon with Jurcina so they don’t have to disrupt Donovan, or waive Wishart. If he signs an NHL contract tomorrow… he’s your man.
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Katic's ahead of de Haan?
Goodness, how things turn.
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Well I would have suspected that at the beginning of the season Katic was ahead of De Haan, with the team looking for Wishart/Katic/Reese to be vet leaders for Donovan/Ness/De Haan.
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Me too, I'm just thinking of health
As in Katic seemed shot/done for the year when his injury happened and CDH had a relatively healthy year before this latest. Now we’re looking at CDH’s lone NHL game being his only one this year, and Katic at least getting some AHL reps before it’s over.
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A possible blessing in disguise?
Now Snow will be forced to throw in one of the AHL D-men (assuming the Juice is not loose). I wanna see Donovan.
I'd like to see Donovan Wally Pip Eaton...
but that’s just not gonna happen. And with the size issue they have, nobody is gonna Pip Jurcina.
hmmm… I think I just thought of a hip hop Islander parody…
I believe in ELI! Go Blue!
@JPinVA
I miss Hamonic already. :(
Glad its 2 weeks and not 2 months.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 5, 2012 3:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This time of year 2 weeks without him can cost us the whole season...
But you’re right….It could always be worse…
Really?
This time of year 2 weeks without him can cost us the whole season…
You’re 10 points out of a playoff spot… 4 teams to jump over for that spot… to do so you’d have to play at a pace you haven’t done in 4 years… and you are going to say that missing a 22 year old defenseman for 2 weeks will cost us the season.
hmmmm… you might have something there. If I was Hamonic’s agent I would cut this post out, blow it up and hang it on my cork board… and every day I’d scribble little $ signs on it.
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@JPinVA
Agreed with KO21
I can’t tell if JPinVA is mocking the statement, but this can easily cost us the season or what little playoff hopes remain. Depth is hugely important for championship teams, which is why they are able to cope with a loss like this. But the Isles have no depth, hence the discussion. He is your best defenseman. Period.
I hope the team can cope and someone can step in and do the job. Times like these you might discover the next Hamonic in the minors. We need one (or more) of these guys to solidify the D for next year. The time is now to find out what you got.
What's Even Worse is the Depth at RH Defenseman
All these guys….Donovan, Wishart, Ness, de Haan, even Motttau…..Lefties. Oy vey.
You can't replace Hammer, the best thing to do is divide his minutes up
kinda replacement by committee if you will
by CanadianIsleslifer on Feb 5, 2012 3:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Question
I know we’ve covered this before, but I can’t remember right now. With Hamonic out, if they say Jurcina is still hurt on Tuesday, can they call someone up on the emergency basis? And wasn’t this a way they could possibly get Wishart up without needing to expose him to waivers?
Sorry, I’m pretty sure someone answered all of this, but can’t for the life of me remember.
That's possible
Thats how the Reese thing worked anyway.
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by Keith Quinn on Feb 5, 2012 3:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not positive
but I believe in order to do that Jurcina has to be put on IR?
Now we're screwed...
We lost out 2 best lock down dmen…I don’t know who will be able to step up…We need guys with size…Wishart maybe?
Two?
Jurcina isnt ’lost"- he was a last minute decision for an elbow laceration- which sounds to me like a cut/bruise. I expect him not to miss much if any more games over that.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 5, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Any word on Juice, though?
Butchie was explaining what probably happened, with the elbow pad sliding down and falling on an unpadded elbow ripping the skin open, and said it could be bad—or not. Haven’t seen any timeframe on how much he could be out.
The broken nose
Another injury ive had. I broke mine on the bone, not the cartilage. So I had surgery where I was put out and they had to crack the bone back into alignment. (Sidenote, nose is still pretty crooked.)
Anyway, after that, your nose is packed with cotton for a week or so and you breathe out of your mouth and get the blak eyes and stuff. It’s pretty unpleasant and uncomfortable. Makes you sneeze a lot too. I would assume whether it was this surgery or an easier one, he’ll be wearing a cage of some kind for a while.
I had this surgery twice.
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by Keith Quinn on Feb 5, 2012 3:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I had this surgery twice.
But you should have seen the other guys!
by afrosupreme on Feb 5, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Ugh
Elbowed playing basketball, kneed playing football on a diving tackle (neighborhood no-helmet style).
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by Keith Quinn on Feb 5, 2012 3:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That reminds me
a friend of mine was telling me how our neighborhood group of people got together when they were 21 to play a game of football in the field by my house. They played full tackle and half the people who played left the game with injuries, so they decided to start playing flag football.
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Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
Lots of those memories...
When I was in grammar school (PS 226) in Brooklyn we used to get there early so we could play what was known as “stop tackle”. Nothing better than a bunch of 10 year olds playing a violent game of two hand touch because nobody would own up to being “tagged”.
By the time we got in the building in the morning half our clothing was torn somewhere (mostly knees) and there was blood on everybody. You’d think we were returning from a midget prison riot.
OH THE GOOD OL’ DAYS!!!
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Yeah, that sounds great
My high school roller hockey bros still get together, usually once a year but now more often. No fights or hitting, but guys would wipe out and jam wrists, rip groins, goalies would cobble outfits together and get drilled in the canolis, and we’d take a break and half of us—out of breath already—would suck down a cigarette. One time, a goalie got drilled in the neck and we almost had to all the game….almost….we just switched the poor, wheezing guy out. Another great time to whip out the Hextall and Palffy jerseys. Good times.
Exactly why adult tackle football is a bad idea
We used to do that every Thanksgiving, and when lost teeth, ACL tears and dislocated shoulders became annual occurrences, we finally faced our mortality. Especially once we determined alcohol was not a controlling factor.
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I stopped playing tackle football at about 22
And I remember playing on a plot of grass right next to a parking lot and the parking lot was out of bounds and we would dive on the concrete to catch the ball. The shit kids do.
Then you get older and know that paycheck ain’t coming if you’re at home with a broken leg.
How do Islander fans spell hope?
T-A-V-A-R-E-S
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 6, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
That's my mantra to rec league idiots
“I gotta work tomorrow, you gotta work tomorrow. Paycheck isn’t coming if one of us has a broken face.”
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sucks
Streit-Jurcina
Amac-Staios
Eaton-Reese
get well soon Travis
by Cary K on Feb 5, 2012 4:00 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think you are right.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
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Jason Pierre Paul?
He’d be great!
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by mikefromVA on Feb 5, 2012 4:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Starting to get overpsyched...
I’m thinking of putting a Gigantor on the BIG BLUE Game thread before I leave for our SB party.
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HELLL YEAH JP!!!!
You should've seen her face. It was the exact same look my father gave me when I told him I wanted to be a ventriloquist.
Just in case anyone is interested...
Someone created an “Unofficial Travis Hamonic Fan Site” to allow fans to send Hammer some get well wishes: http://travishamonic.com/
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by Captdallas on Feb 5, 2012 10:05 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
looks professional...nice job whoever you are
everybody "wong" chung tonight
by potvins_cups on Feb 5, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
so-so
it looks like they just took the Template from the other players official sites ala
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Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
I didn't want to tank the season, and I'm bummed as hell that he's hurt
…but, it’d be nice if a Hamonic-less two weeks turned into drafting Matt Dumba.
Sorry for being a realist, but Hamonic is the heart and soul of our non-playoff caliber defense. Tuesday is gonna be ugly…and, yes, I hope I am wrong.
Like I said, It’s not the year to tank – WE NEEDED TO IMPROVE THIS YEAR – but the draft may be the only way this team acquires a Dman like (potentially) Dumba (Chelios mold, from what I’ve read and seen).
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
the pessimist in me wants to fail for nail
but the impatient islander fan in me wants this to somehow work out..maybe that sumo wrestler wang always talks about can play d
everybody "wong" chung tonight
by potvins_cups on Feb 5, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
That's going to be hard
Columbus is ridiculously bad this year.
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not sure if dumba is the guy...
the isles need more of a big defenseman to the mix of their blue line. i like this kid: http://www.mynhldraft.com/2012/NHL-Draft-Profiles/Griffin-Reinhart
"Redemption? Sure. But in the end, he's just another dead rat in a garbage pail behind a Chinese restaurant."
Oh I like him too, and I agree we need size on D
…but, if the Isles do find themselves drafting in the top 5 (again…sigh) and both Dumba and Reinhart are on the table, I’d take Dumba. He has Chris Chelios potential – and Chelios won Norris Trophies and Stanley Cups playing at 6’1 190lbs. Dumba is approx. 6’0 165lbs. right now, so he should fill out to be 6’1 or 6’2 200lbs. (an average sized modern NHL player)…but he plays MUCH bigger than he is. I guess I just prefer a Dman who, like Potvin, appreciates the art of the open ice hit while also attempting to play the complete game – a defenseman that forwards HATE to play against. That to me matters more than size.
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
by Bryan2112 on Feb 6, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And is it just me, or is Hamonic beccomming that type of D-Man?
the type that people hate to play against
Why yes, I do have a man crush on Bailey and Martin, and no, I don't care what you think about it
Hamonic is physical, but he is not really feared for his hits.
He plays a extremely smart and safe and we can’t fault him. I’d love him to line up more people and go for the big hits, but he’s smart enough to know that puts him out of position in all but the rare circumstances.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
"John Tavares(a top 10 forward in the NHL)"-Neil Greenberg
That's why it is an 'art'
Many players can lay open ice hits, few can do it at the proper time with minimal risk of being out of position. Perhaps Hamonic will begin to attempt this in his early 20’s (JFC this kid is young). And who’s to say Dumba can even accomplish this in the NHL? Noone really, that’s why he is a high risk/high reward pick.
After reading this article though, I’m chomping at the bit to get this kid on the Islanders!
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
Hamonic out 2 weeks I think is a pretty big deal to me...
he’s clearly the best dman the isles have. not that i actually believe the isles will make the playoffs, but without him, you can kiss that dream goodbye. he’s the glue that keeps the blue line together.
"Redemption? Sure. But in the end, he's just another dead rat in a garbage pail behind a Chinese restaurant."
My friend came by and watched the Super Bowl with me
He asked me who I wanted to win the game. I said, Giants, since so many Isles fans are Giants fans, I have to go for them. These people have had enough pain.
How do Islander fans spell hope?
T-A-V-A-R-E-S
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 6, 2012 10:36 AM EST reply actions
Giants fans?
They’ve had no pain. Three championships in the past 25 years is pretty good in the NFL.
Feel bad for the Jets. They haven’t won a national championship since 1968 (just like the Maple Leafs, who won in 1967!).
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
I said any Isles fan that's a Giants fan.
How do Islander fans spell hope?
T-A-V-A-R-E-S
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 6, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
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