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The Rant

Lets start off with the goaltending. I hope that the Isles can get Nabokov resigned.In my opinion he was a much bigger contributor to the Sharks success than he was given credit for. And as has been widely speculated Montoya is unlikely to be back next year. On to the defense. Should he Staios or should he go? No matter if players like Eaton or Jurcina are traded at the deadline they along with Staios (a player I have always liked but has reached his best before date) and Mottau should not be back next year. It's time for deHaan,Ness,Donovan and Katic be given a serious look to make the team next year. Also maybe the Isles should make a pitch for Komisarek. Considering his contract the price will not be steep and they might be able to dump one of their own unwanted players in the process. Up front I do not agree with Nino being in the NHL. The NHL is not a daycare if he is not ready than he should be in Portland. I know this method has not worked out well for Detroit and before that the 1970's Montreal Canadiens as their overwhelming patience has stunted the development of many of their players. Yesterday after the game Cappy talked about a lack of pushback. Well for me that started back in game 1 against Florida. It reminds me of something Cris Carter said recently about Randy Moss. Something about his quit mechanism. The Isles also have a large quit mechanism when things are not going well.They have as much quit in them as a factory worker during shift change. They can't get out of there fast enough. As far as the plyoffs go they have as much chance of getting in this year as I have of getting a date with Amy Lee of Evanescence. Josh Bailey as a core player? I have no doubt he will be a 50 goal scorer in this league in a year or two. He is already at 40 at the time of this writing. And going off the rails here a little bit but when Kosuke Fukudome went from the Cubs to the White Sox it reminded me of a certain Toronto Maple Leafs enforcer. Well thats all for now because they telling me it's time to go back in my cage.

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joyce v IOW

stream of consciousness v stream of characters… there’s a difference.
Though, if Portrait of an Artist was written in an HTML shop where you could swig Jameson’s all day I’m pretty sure it would have looked much like Isle’s fan post.

I believe in ELI! Go Blue!
@JPinVA

by JPinVA on Feb 22, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd

like every attempt I’ve made to read Ulysses before I’ve finished the first chapter.

by afrosupreme on Feb 22, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I enjoy Joyce...

but I have one failed attempt at Ulysses myself. I may give it another go after I’m done with this self help book I’m reading…

If you ever want to stir up a stranger’s cocktail (no pun intended) party, sneak this book in and leave it on a shelf or in the bathroom reading rack.

I believe in ELI! Go Blue!
@JPinVA

by JPinVA on Feb 22, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

It's funny you mention and we joke about Komisarek, but he really could turn into a cap mule for us next season if we don't take on salary in other ways some how.

Komisarek has deteriorated into a terrible bottom pair d-man, but where else are we gonna find $4.5mil/yr of cap that’s easy to acquire for us without resigning Nabby and/or PAP?(and/butt Komi is signed for 2yrs at that) Even with DP, we need to add significant salary next year to hit the cap floor. Nabby and PAP+ resigned might get us close, but only resigning one of them would create another cap hole for us to deal with. Oh the sad realities we must face as isles fans. lol

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
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by OzzyFan on Feb 21, 2012 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

Komisarek

Exactly my point Ozzie. He is being grossly overpaid but he would give the Isles something that they are in short supply of.

by Isle Of Weight on Feb 21, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I see what youre getting at

I just dont trust him.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

He'll give them size and a big fatass contract

but that’s it.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Feb 22, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmm

last I checked there was a surplus of minimally contributing overpaid vets…but I kind of see your point. Probably a better use for the money.

We keep forgetting that there may be buyouts, cap reductions, cuts, waivings and the like in this off season. The problem with the Isles is, it has to be perfect, because if they make the slight improvement and spend the money, it’s not like they have other money laying around when the perfect fit comes along.

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by Keith Quinn on Feb 22, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

WTF?
I know this method has not worked out well for Detroit

Yup, Detroit is doing it all wrong.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Feb 21, 2012 6:01 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

WTF part deux

I hope you are being sarcastic because I know I was.

by Isle Of Weight on Feb 21, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Just a suggestion

A vague title like “a rant” doesnt let people who would be interested know to click on this. If it was maybe “a rant about _” more people might read it?

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 6:36 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Thank you for the suggestion

TMC you are most certainly right. I was being way to vague but if you look at the spelling for playoffs you can probably tell that this piece probably should have in it’s totality been given a little more thought on my part.

by Isle Of Weight on Feb 21, 2012 8:09 PM EST reply actions  

This is the thing

FanPosts are for giving things a little more thought. Because I have to be honest: When I see a title “The Rant” and I see a block of uninterrupted text, my eyes glaze over and I give up — yet I know you routinely provide more interesting insight than a typical rant.

FanPosts are so much better when people DO give them more thought, when they think like an editor or news writer (“What should my headline be? What will get people to read without deceiving them to clicking because they expect something else? What will make it easier on the eyes to read?”) and most importantly when they think not “What must I get off my chest now-right-now” but rather “What do I have to say that might be interesting to others?”

I know you know the difference. And now you know you can edit your FanPosts too to clean them up. I don’t mean to be lippy; I know you’ve been around a while. I want people with something to say to have the best chance of someone … hearing them.

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by Dominik on Feb 22, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I no get what writer man say

Josh Bailey as a core player? I have no doubt he will be a 50 goal scorer in this league in a year or two. He is already at 40 at the time of this writing. And going off the rails here a little bit but when Kosuke Fukudome went from the Cubs to the White Sox it reminded me of a certain Toronto Maple Leafs enforcer. Well thats all for now because they telling me it’s time to go back in my cage.

No offense, but, what? Haha.

by sayvillelax94 on Feb 22, 2012 12:29 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

Yeah I'm confused.

Does Bailey have 40 goals this season or does he have 6?

Take em to the jabrone-zone

by IslesJabronie on Feb 22, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

this...

These comments crawl up from the depths of the deepest Chasm of Saar

by bob l on Feb 22, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Bailey

Bailey has 40 goals total in his career. Not really my idea of a core player.

by Isle Of Weight on Feb 22, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

comments on montoya

yea the second half of this year is turning out to be a bust for him but until Nabokov even thought about playing, he was our number 1 guy. in my opinion i strongly think we should keep him simply because the past 10 years our goaltenders have been a horror show if we can resign Nabby, why not keep him as a backup while Poulin gets more BP work? His numbers last year were acceptable and as of his last few games i really put the blame on the concussion. if he gets some more playing time and gets his groove back, he deserves to stay. at least hes more reliable then DP.

by Nick.Capo56 on Feb 22, 2012 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

Only bring back Montoya if he's willing to sign a two-way contract

DP should not be a factor next year. What I’m seeing so far from Montoya is that he hasn’t even been a very good back-up goalie this year post-concussion. Small sample size since he’s been sparsely used, but still – in those cases, he needs to step up and secure stability.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Feb 22, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

oh without a doubt but coming off the concussion then playing in relief roles and last minute starts. not that thats an excuse but it still factors in to his level of comfort in his abilities on the ice

by Nick.Capo56 on Feb 22, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

The Islanders do not need the two way contract- thats what players do to save money, and they dont spend money.

How does a 2-way contract help anything? All it does is pay Montoya a lot less.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Feb 22, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

(what teams do to save money, that is)

And this team saves so much money by not spending it in the first place, why do you want them to be even cheaper lol?

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Feb 22, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Because this team needs to save as much money as possible.

No reason to pay a goalie an NHL rate if he’s playing in Bridgeport.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Feb 22, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Its not like Montoya is breaking the bank even at the NHL level.
This team doesnt need to scrounge to save a few dollars here and there… if anything, they need to pay decent players more, not lowball everyone.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Feb 23, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

If the Islanders go with a Nabokov/Poulin tandem for next year

and expect Montoya to be a depth signing, it makes no sense to give him a full one-way deal then. I’m not saying lowball the guy, but if he’s going to be a depth signing, then he shouldn’t be getting a full NHL wage.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Feb 23, 2012 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Fab, it really doesnt matter.

I was (and still am) surprised that you think it is so mandatory that it is “the only way” to bring him back to thei team. If that kind of money makes or breaks you, then what the hell would you be doing even owning a sports team? Fans bring up 1-way vs. 2-way contracts all the time- but in the grand scheme of owning a team, it doesnt deserve the attention it gets. The player (in this and most other cases) is not waiver eligible anyway, so the team wouldnt even get to enjoy the two-way-ness of it unless they threw the guy on waivers and risked losing him.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Feb 23, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

It's more because I don't see him having a future with this NHL team after this year

and if Garth Snow wants a tandem of Nabokov/Poulin with Nilsson and Koskinen (maybe?) in the Bridge, then why would you sign Montoya to a full one-way deal? It doesn’t make any sense to pay a guy 600k if he’s fourth on the goaltending depth chart and playing back-up in the minor leagues. The point isn’t to worry about losing him to waivers, the point is to save $500k.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Feb 23, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Rant..........OK I will

I think my frustration mirrors many others on and off these boards:

1. The owner apparently has only enough money left after losing 20M/season to keep the team barely afloat.
2. The political and economic climate in Nassau does not permit a reasonable chance of the construction of a new Arena before the lease expires in 2015.
3. The GM does not have the environment or the money necessary to acquire the extra talent to supplement the long running rebuild that will get the team to the play-offs.
4. The coach is working with only one or possibly two lines of play-off quality players. The Defense has at most 3 quality men. The Goal situation is far from settled
5. the players at BPT and further down the line, while promising are really a couple of seasons away from NHL winning caliber.
6. The Brooklyn Arena speculation is just that….speculation. No one has suggested how the 14500 capacity would ever be approved long term by the League.

In summary we are all long suffering fans who band together here with various reasons to post and have fun………I hope there is a rainbow somewhere in the future and I hope it ends somewhere in the New York area.

by altosax on Feb 23, 2012 11:47 AM EST reply actions  


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