Chatty Tuesday: Islanders Notes, Rumors, Injury Updates
by Dominik on Feb 21, 2012 2:24 PM EST
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We are in one of the NHL's annual silly seasons, with speculation often jumping into rumor, while sourced info gets buried. A couple of unnamed sources for Chris Botta: That the Isles are discussing 1- and 2-year offers in extension talks with Evgeni Nabokov.
One rumor du jour: That Mark Eaton "requested a trade," something he flatly denied that to Newsday's Arthur Staple -- but that won't keep logic (Milan Jurcina and Mark Eaton are unsigned pending UFAs) from evolving into an echo chamber of "reports say" giving those stories legs. Suffice to say they're veteran UFA D-men, and it's a seller's market. They aren't worth much, but if the right buyer comes calling ... deal faster than you can say "Hal Gill."
For tonight's game, know that Kevin Poulin starts again -- and Jack Capuano was so flu-ridden that Doug Weight handled morning press duties. Ryan Miller is expected to start for the Sabres.
Meanwhile, it was a chatty kind of Tuesday. Staple fielded plenty of Isles questions, while the Connecticut Post's Michael Fornabaio handled fans queries on the hot Bridgeport Sound Tigers. Botta and NHL.com's Brian Compton also did their metro podcast at Point Blank. Those links go to the full chats; highlights for discussion are below in this post.
Staple says the room is fine; Compton says he has to believe yesterday's failure means there's a "leadership issue" in that room.
I say the team is an NHL quasi-.500 team playing NHL quasi-.500 hockey.
Staple on the Islanders
Questions for Staple ran the gamut of the usual Islanders fan zeitgeist. A sampling of answers reflecting the beatwriter's opinion on the Isles follows below.
Beyond these Staple handled plenty more including the handling of Nino Niederreiter, the status of Josh Bailey of Undefined Role, of Al Montoya, and of course, WHY CAN'T ISLES HAVE NASH?!!1
Staple on the flu bug running through the team:
Right now, the head coach is suffering the most. Nabokov should be ready to return on Friday against the Rangers. I think after taking nearly a full year off and then playing as much as he'd been, Nabokov suffered more than most would due to the flu.
On Brian Rolston, who turned 39 today:
I think the entire organization has been stunned at how much Rolston's game has fallen off, and I am surprised that Capuano keeps putting him out there.
Brian Rolston is so old, _______________.
Speaking of disappointments for the organization ... Marty Reasoner?
Yes, very much so. He fills a role -- and, frankly, there's a chance he'll get moved before Monday because he can fill a role -- so no one expected 40 points. But he has been a disappointment.
On Why Can't Have Cizikas And Everyone Up Here Now, Now, Want Now, 'Cause Want Now Have:
My feeling is the staff wants to keep rookie pros like Cizikas and De Haan in Bridgeport for the entire year to continue to build on what they've done so far, rather than drop them into a messier situation up with the Isles. Best case scenario is Cizikas is ready to compete for a role starting next training camp.
On Travis Hamonic, recovering from his broken nose:
If Hamonic is still on target, he'll want to play Friday; Sunday seems more realistic.
Go to Newsday for the full chat.
Sound Tigers with Mike Fornabaio
On Tomas Marcinko, who received a game misconduct for boarding over the weekend:
Boarding is one of those penalties where two game misconducts carry an automatic one-game suspension. Assuming the league doesn't rescind the penalty, and at the moment I have no information that that's even under consideration, I assume he gets one to start. Given that this is two such penalties in about four weeks, it's possible there's more...
Fornabaio also discussed some of the PTOs currently playing -- and it seems, brilliantly procured by Brent Thompson -- and how they'll need contracts if they're to stick around and be on the Clear Day list. Contracts would be needed by March 5. Some of their PTOs expire before that.
Fornabaio also covered the injury brigade -- Calvin de Haan is close -- and Mark Katic:
Katic, if all goes well, the hope was that he could be ready as early as this weekend.
There's plenty more at Fornabaio's chat too. For discussion purposes here, that's the latest insight on the team at both parent and farm team level.
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Talk amongst yourselves...
Commenters, please consider that when doing your usual chatter. And please be respectful of each other, for Bossy's sake.
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Biggest things that pop out to me
Staple: I think the Isles would take a 1st-round pick, but I can’t see anyone offering one up — first-rounders are too valuable these days. I think Parenteau will get to July and try for his home-run contract, $4 million a year or so; we’ll see if anyone wants to offer that to him.
If he only wants 4 million a year what’s the hold up? He’ll easily get that this summer if he wants to wait it out. Would be foolish by the Islanders not to pony up the dough and then get into a bidding war in the summer. Last year showed how valuable even crappy UFAs are.
Staple:
Aaron — Montoya isn’t either, and I think the way he’s played in these last two emergency appearances has reminded everyone why he’s bounced around. He simply froze up both in St. Louis and yesterday, and if you’re going to be a backup goaltender, you have to be able to jump in and be ready at a moment’s notice. I don’t think he’ll be back next season.
I’d be pretty surprised if we don’t retain Montoya because he’s a cheap asset with potential. I guess were going to be seeing a Nabby/Poulin combination next season.
Staple:
Even if it’s in the new agreement, Wang has to be convinced to cut his favorite son loose. I’m not convinced that would happen. Plus, aside from the ridiculous contract, DiPietro has zero impact on the club right now. If that’s the case next season, why worry? It’s not your money!
If we don’t cut DiPietro if there’s contract amnesty in the new CBA I think I’d have to stop rooting for the team until we got a new owner. You could always resign him on a shorter contract for less money.
Comment From Joey
Is PA really worth around 4 mil a year?
Staple:
Joey — Not to me, no. But in July, he might be to a desperate team without much organizational depth (Calgary, Montreal). I’d offer 2 years and 3-3.25 per. And probably be rejected.
Yikes if Staple was our GM we’d never sign anybody.
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
by ArsenalLI on Feb 21, 2012 2:49 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Thing is, contract amnesty may not do much for the Isles
Usually that’s a “get out from under this cap!” mechanism, and maybe it saves some money long term. The Islanders don’t have the first concern, and the second concern is a delicate one through existing buyout procedures already.
Everyone cites “amnesty” clauses like they’d help the Isles, but that’s a big IF. Players aren’t going to say, “Oh sure, waive the contract (for cap) AND waive the money.” No matter what, the Islanders will still owe him a ton of money unless he retires.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
by Dominik on Feb 21, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
agree with Staple that DP isnt impacting the team right now........
Its funny to me how DP is always the butt of the joke when talking about Isles struggles, but he really has had nothing to do with the team for a while now. Aside from a short little 3 ring goalie circus stint DP has not affected this teams on ice performance. It will become a problem when and if the Isles are ever up against the cap and DP is handcuffing us and i dont think we need to worry about that for a while. We do still have a while on his contract though right?
by LaFontaine16 on Feb 21, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with ArsenalLI on this one
RDP does impact the team in that if we do not amnesty his contract that will be that much less money the team spends. If RDP is removed from the books, Wang will then be forced to upgrade the team just to meet the cap floor. If we get the chance to rid our franchise of that contract and Wang refuses, I will have to stop rooting for the team and I have been a fan since 1975 and have had season tickets during 12 different seasons.
by Best Thing Going on Feb 22, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Gotta agree with Staple when it comes to PAP
.. granted, last years FA made out like bandits, so it’s possible PAP gets exactly what he wants money AND term. And that I think is the big issue.
PAP has said he’s more concerned about length, which, given his age, is understandable. That said, I wouldn’t want to throw 16 or 20m at PAP over 4 or 5 years. 8 to 10 for 3, yes, without a doubt. 12 for 4, sure.
I’d say he’s delusional for wanting more, but recent trends show he’ll probably get 4-5 mil a year for 6 years by some team desperate to make the back page.
by TA on Feb 21, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with your prices in a vacuum
To me the challenge, and the reason he has some leverage (other than the UFA market itself), is the fact the Isles are unlikely to replace him this summer or next.
All we’ve got is a hope that some youngsters will develop or another PAP is found in the bargain bin. Fairly unlikely IMO.
Staple talked about them hoping next year’s top six is 26-91-21, 40-51-25. To me that’s absolute crazy talk if it doesn’t mean quality bottom sixers and top-six insurance as well. That’s why PAP insurance would be great. He can do PP duty and 3rd-line elevation work if needed, if — and I don’t expect this — Okposo and Nino are doing the job on the top two lines next season.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
that top 6 sounds crazy to me too....
especially nino cant crack the top 9 right now and its apparent to me that Nielsen and Grabner are not top 6 forwards. Give Bailey a shot at the 2nd line center. Keep Fransy in his role as a 3rd liner with Grabs and give Bailey a real opportunity with real linemates to produce. We need some balance, but need better players to help this out.
by LaFontaine16 on Feb 21, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
What is crazy about those lines is believing that Nino and KO could replace PAP's 53 points to date.
He’s notched 41 assists so far. When was the last time the Isles had someone so effective on setting up goals? We can’t overlook PAP’s production.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
My ideal for next season
Moulson-JT-PAP – each linemate is on pace for 70+ points, might as well keep that together
Ullstrom-Bailey-Okposo – probably the riskiest line as these three are HUGE question marks, but they have the potential to provide some great secondary scoring. This could really be Bailey’s last stand as an Islander before Strome takes over second line duties, so hopefully he’ll feel more confident as a centerman with two large two-way wingers.
Grabner-Nielsen-Nino – helps Nino develop his two-way game with the Isles’ two best defensive forwards while honing his offensive skills at the same time. They played briefly in yesterday’s game, but showed a brief moment of promise.
Rolston-Reasoner-Pandolfo
HAHA no I’m joking, fuck this line.
Martin-Reasoner-Rahkshani – this gives Rhett the possibility to carve a future in the NHL while Reasoner sits on the 4th line until Cizikas is ready. Martin just continues being a banger and can fill in on the top 3 lines whenever somebody sucks.
Depth: Cizikas, Petrov, Kabanov, DiBo, Lee (hopefully), Nelson (hopefully), Haley (because we need future GRITTZZZZ)
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
by Fabtraption on Feb 21, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I'm a simple man
HAHA no I’m joking, fuck this line.
This has me cracking up.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Feb 21, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That got a rec from me instantly
The rest of it could have been Cyrillic cuss words and I would have rec’d it for that line.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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my ideal for next season.....
Moulson-JT-Parise
Parenteau – Bailey – Okposo
Nino-Nielsen-Grabs
Martin-someone tough-another guy who hits
Martin deserves to be bounced up in the lineup at times and given some PP time in front of the net too. There’s only one small catch to my lineup.
by LaFontaine16 on Feb 21, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
I was operating under the assumption
that Parise is a fantasy that will just never happen, and Parenteau is the most logical free agent the Islanders should sign.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
There’s always the possibility of a first line consisting of:
Parise-Tavares-Parise
We don’t know what breakthroughs in the medical science of cloning might happen during the off-season.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
I don't see Parise as an unreasonable possiblity
Not that he will come here but his dad played here so he’ll respect the organization, we can offer him more $$ than anyone else if we want to, and he may just want to stay in the Atlantic to cut down on travel.
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
Or cloning as a reasonable alternative in that situation.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
by Turgeon1992 on Feb 21, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Look at it this way
L’il JP here, Isles suck less, no JT.
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AND "Thank you Dale Tallon"
If I had to put a percentage on him coming to us in the summer it'd be about the same as our playoff chances
I’m not getting my hopes up. I just don’t think he’d spurn us in the same way that other big time guys would. There are reasons we’d be a good landing spot for him.
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
The biggest reason Parise has to come here...
…is to play with John Tavares.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
If the top six isn't Nash-Tavares-Parise, Petrov-Carter-Ott
Then I quit. Come on, do something Garth.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I think we're in even worse shape if you're counting on Bailey to be a 2C
But however we label Nielsen/Bailey (2C/3C, whatever, the roles are what are important), Nielsen is going to remain more valuable than Bailey, no matter their linemates.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
IMO
Line 1) Most productive scoring line.
Line 2) Secondary scoring.
Line 3) Defensive line chips in with scoring
Line 4) Grinding/cycling defensive line. Roleplayers.
The way I’ve always designated it. The problem right now is Frans’ line is basically 2 and 3.
I'm fine with that
Thing is, in today’s game line 3 may very well get more minutes. Line 2 will take the soft openings in between line 1 starts and line 3 annoying the hell out of the other team’s first.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
problem is
we have 1 Line 1 Center (JT), 1 Line 3 Center (FN), and 3 Line 4 Centers (Bailey, Cizikas, Reasoner)
As far as I see the make-up of this team
we’ve got one first line, two third lines, and an AHL line masking themselves. Okay fine, Bailey’s line gets third-line minutes, and I figured that that line would cause some concern with some people here. I think it’s even riskier pairing Bailey and Okposo together since they’re both underperformers, but…well, with this lineup, there’s a whole bunch of question marks throughout the lineup.
Basically, I want to see Nino with Grabner and Nielsen, but not pulling 2nd-line minutes.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
Bailey needs a finisher on his line
Okposo is as inconsistent as Bailey is but if they both got hot at the same time it’d be a line to watch out for.
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
The Islanders don't have any finishers
That’s why I’ve got Ullstrom on that line. The hope, once again, is that he learns how to be a finisher in the NHL and can pot a nice 15+ goals next season.
Of course, I realize he will still be an Islander next year and will probably only get 3, but still…high hopes.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
I would mess with:
- reuniting Bailey and Okposo (“chemistry” theory)
- and Nino with Frans and Grabner (“shelter the puppy” theory).
But I think Grabner’s struggles are exaggerated by most.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I am never able to concur without also being longwinded
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Hold on a second there
Who is the second wing on the first line? PAP is clearly not a first line winger.
=d
My lines consist of re-signing PAP and putting him on the first line
since he’s, you know, getting points.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
Yea
And this is where I can get on board with some of the frustration with Cappy not mixing it up a little at this point in the season. Why not see if you can set Nino and Bailey free with something like:
26-91-21
40-51-17
25-12-15
Treat the Grabs/Frans/Martin line as a more defensive unit, and try to get the Nino/Bailey/PAP line more offensive opportunities. While the bottom 6 has made strides this year, it has a ways to go, so see if some of these guys can work together in different situations.
Kind of agree there
I’m not frustrated yet — I see him as trying to win games with what he knows has a chance of working, so whatever.
But I would like to see them sell at the deadline, essentially conceding the playoff dream is over (or else a miracle that will ride on youth), and THEN begin the line experimentation and youthful auditions for the remainder of the season.
To me that’s the natural progression of things that keeps me from losing my shit before it’s time to lose my shit.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
not sure I agree
I don’t see how any reasonable trade jeopardizes a possible late playoff run
trade what we can, make a run with the kids – we can do both
should be the ambition anyway
Agreed, I don't think it does *in reality* at all
I’m more speaking to the reality of people management (“in the room” crap) which is a real dynamic even if we’d prefer it not be.
Like it or not, sending two, three, four guys they’ve been playing with all year — or even demoting/waiving one like we’d all probably like to see with Rolston — has a way of shocking the room in a potentially not helpful way. If you give this group to the deadline or close to the deadline, you at least send the message that you tried to let them prove it could work.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
And grateful for that, I am
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Staple:
Even if it’s in the new agreement, Wang has to be convinced to cut his favorite son loose. I’m not convinced that would happen. Plus, aside from the ridiculous contract, DiPietro has zero impact on the club right now. If that’s the case next season, why worry? It’s not your money!
If we don’t cut DiPietro if there’s contract amnesty in the new CBA I think I’d have to stop rooting for the team until we got a new owner. You could always resign him on a shorter contract for less money.
To be fair, isn’t he a better cap mule right now that Rolston? He’s not actively hurting the team….
But yes, it makes no sense to not amesty him is it’s possible. In fact, there’s a good chance it’ll be named after him like the Alan Houston rule
Rick DiPietro's claim to fame:
“I hurt the team less than Rolston.”
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
...
…and why not.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
don't forget the benefit of being the teams medical guineau pig
he’s basically had every surgery possible for a hockey player so now our medical staff is well prepared to deal with any kind of recovery
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
can we try Xylaflex?
I think the commercial says it cures DiPietro’s Contracture.
by 4PeatSake on Feb 21, 2012 9:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I see so much potential in future DP t-shirts.
Rick’s number on the front…
on back: It could be worse. I could be Brian Rolston.
On front: What if this shirt said 11 Rolston on it?
On back: Be glad it only says 39 DiPietro
On front: NY Isles Crest
On back: 39 “My number is only 2 greater than Rolston’s age, but with less hurt!”
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
At the Draft Party
I picked up a DP Summer Camp shirt for $5. Took it to a screening shop and had it customized with “Learn To Make Millions Working From Home”
Haven’t had the heart to wear it yet, but if he doesn’t retire soon my sympathy is likely to run thin.
by NYIPHL on Feb 21, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
that's hilarious
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
That's brilliant. Cruel but brilliant.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
OK?
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
Wow!
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Hamonic
I waited around by the ramp yesterday after the game to see mostly dejected players drive past us and injured and scratched players stop and sign stuff (Reese and Wishart were in a car together) and Hamonic (to the disappointment of some of the girls who were out there, there was a woman in the passenger seat). Hamonic’s face didn’t look too bad, I wonder what he looked like after the injury when Staple said he looked more like a truck hit him….also, Staios stopped and people confused him for Rolston and I remembered after scouring my jersey that he did sign it at Adventureland, but he wore 44 over the summer.
I like Staple....
i generally tend to agree with his opinions and its refreshing to have someone answer the questions that everyone else avoids. Couldnt have said it better myself about Rolston. Now, if we can only get Capuano to answer why the hell he keeps playing him. I agree with his value assesment of PA Parenteau. He is not worth 4 mil, but there are a lot of players making that money who arent worth it in the NHL so i think its very hard to gauge someones market value these days. i think Staple’s figures are fair for both sides. I think PA wants a longer term than what the Isles are wiling to give. It’s seems clear to me management doesnt think of him as part of the core and he will be one of the first to go when a younger player is ready to step up. Having said that, this team cant afford to lose him for nothing so somethings gotta give. Im glad he thinks Montoya wont be back. I never got on the Montoya bandwagon. Even when he was winning i never saw anything great from him. There’s a clear distinction between games Nabakov has won for us and games Montoya has won for us. Sign Nabby. We’ve witnessed the past 2 games what next season could look like without him.
Comparables for cap hit point wise with Parenteau
Parenteau is currently 22nd in point total in the NHL right now.
- Teemu Selanne cap hit: 4.00 million a year
- Ray Whitney cap hit: 3.00 million a year
- Pa Parenteau cap hit: 1.25 million a year
- Martin St. Louis cap hit: 5.625 million a year
- Joe Thornton cap hit: 7.00 million a year
- Patrick Sharp 5.90 million a year
He’s easily worth 4 million a year just on points and he’ll get more as a UFA if we don’t give that to him. Leino is making 4.5 million a year after being a UFA last year….
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
Those are 20-25 in order
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
its easy to pick out players production and say they are worth this and that......
He has more points than Ovechkin, Parise, Perry, Staal, Kane, Benn, Iginla, Zetterberg……that doesnt mean he deserves equal money or is as valuable as them. Parenteau isnt even close to being as good a player as any of those guys mentioned. His point totals would help him if he were going to arbitration, but if your a smart GM you take into account the overall value of a player and not just how many points he has.
by LaFontaine16 on Feb 21, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed it's not a complete representation of value but he's a UFA
Guys with his production don’t generally get on the open market and when they do they get overpaid.
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
agree with you there......
Im sure he will make more on the open market, but one has to wonder when these over payments will stop. We’re seeing it handcuff teams all over the league and teams were regretting some of these signings a month or two into the season. I wouldnt mind giving him 4 mil on a 2 year contract, but i think PA wants more stability. He prob figures he can get 4years at 16 mil on teh open market which he possibly can so I guess we’ll find out what he wants more. My guess is PA takes $ and term in an inflated free agent market over an “Isles discount”. I cant really blame him either if he does because this is basically his one chance to cash in.
by LaFontaine16 on Feb 21, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
I think 4 million for 3 years is a good compromise, hopefully we'll find some middle ground on term but I don't think the $ figure he's asking for is ridiculous
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
I think Parenteau is in the same league as the Ray Whitney of the past 3 years.
I think it’s very possible Parenteau puts up 250 points over the next 4 seasons. (Averaging 63 per season.) Some of the little things he does well. Others not as well. He hits more than most of Isles’ forwards, even though he’s more of a finesse guy. He’s played just over 160 NHL games, so I like the chance of his body holding up another 250 games.
Unless he has a devastating injury, Isles can trade him 2013 trade deadline and at least get a late draft pick, even if he is only on pace for 50 or so points. That would give Isles’ prospects another year to prove they belong in the top-6.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
While I agree ~$4M should be his target
it all depends on term. At his age, the higher salary he wants, the lower my offer of term, and vice versa.
If an agent brought up Leino’s deal I’d tell him, “You’re right. There are dumb GMs out there. If you want that price, you better go find one.”
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for how long would you be willing to give him 4 million?
Another thing I just looked at is Parenteau’s Rel. Corsi value. He’s mislabeled as a center on Behind the Net but he’d ranked 10th in Rel. Corsi for Right Wingers with over 40gp and he’s ranked 37th overall for forwards.
Giving him 4 years at 16 million seems to be a fair contract to me, even though I’d like to get him for fewer years at that rate. He’s 28 now, how much of a decline should we expect? Being 32 at the end of a deal isn’t that much of a concern to me, especially since his game isn’t based on speed.
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
I might go 4 x 4
But that’s pushing it and conceding to his UFA leverage. If he really wants term beyond that, I’d start dropping the AAV quite a bit.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
by Dominik on Feb 21, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Staple > Strang
Remember that, folks. Even if Staple is not your favorite beatwriter, it could always be worse…like it was for the past two years.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
by Fabtraption on Feb 21, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
oh muh gawd
not sure i like going right back to KP, he was channeling his inner Ricky yesterday and that usually takes more the 24 hours to exorcise out of someone…
if wang has “to be convinced” to void RDP’s contract, then i have “to be convinced” to continue to throw my support at this franchise…
here’s what didnt make it thru the moderation on the chat…
PAP to Stapleton: 2 years $6.25M ??? are you Fist F@#$%ing me?
of Rolston… of course the organization is stunned at his drop off, he promised DW he STILL HAD IT when he whispered the idea in Snow’s ear…
These comments crawl up from the depths of the deepest Chasm of Saar
Yes, I need to see quality from KP tonight!
Does he have the cojones to erase yesterday’s deabcle from his mind in order to play great tonight? I really need to see more than solid play tonight, I need to see above solid play!
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Feb 21, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
Does this make any medical sense?
Right now, the head coach is suffering the most. Nabokov should be ready to return on Friday against the Rangers. I think after taking nearly a full year off and then playing as much as he’d been, Nabokov suffered more than most would due to the flu.
It is Diduck.
why can't a 39 year old Rolston suffer from the flu instead?
by dunnowhat2type on Feb 21, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe he is
He caught it October 1st, and it’s been lingering.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Feb 21, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Because he is 37.
If 39 year old Rolston is an Islander, then we may as well move to KC now.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
Islander fans may start trying to hang themselves in the rafters of the Coliseum
I say “trying” because chances are the rafters will break from any additional weight placed on them by that point.
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
You haven't checked your Isles birthday calendar
Now have you.
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Whoa.
He’s old. And I can’t do math or don’t bother paying much attention to twitters. At least I made a funny.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
No doubt
I didn’t want to be the one to break the news.
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My whole world is shattered.
It is going to be a long journey to pick up the pieces, and like the movie Momento, I will always have these reminders of Rolston, but never the ability to fully recall what they mean.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
got to blame the Vets
Rolston and Reasoner are there to put some points on the board and provide leadership but leadership doesn’t go far when you can’t put a goal in net. At least when Konopka was there his job was to be tough, and he did that every night.
Rolston should have been waived instead of sat for the 5 games. I thought Rahk was playing better anyway, Ullstrom was also better
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Feb 21, 2012 3:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
for the record, here's Konopka vs. the replacements.....and Comeau for that matter....
Konopka, 47GP 4G 5A
Rolston, 47GP, 4G, 5A
Reasoner, 39GP, 0G, 5A
Pandolfo, 42GP, 1G, 1A
makes you wonder why Comeau was the whipping boy and got put on waivers when these 3 bums have to be 3 of the most useless players in the league. Granted Comeau’s #’s are almost identical, but atleast hes capable of a body check and a scoring threat every now and then.
by LaFontaine16 on Feb 21, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
we may get an answer on DP sooner than we think
according to Chris Botta’s twitter Nabokov will get his $ (2-3 mill per), but needs to know if DiPietro is still in Wang’s plans to get NHL starts while rehabbing.
by isles1992 on Feb 21, 2012 4:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
if thats true, they better not F it up........
enough is enough with DP. Relegate him to backup. His time is over. If he doesnt like it or becomes a problem then sit him in the press box.
by LaFontaine16 on Feb 21, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
That seems like a perfectly reasonable request of Nabby's.
I would relegate DP as backup or push for his retirement this summer. DP cannot keep trying to rehab through the season. Either he is ready at the start or he cannot be a part of the team. It’s a matter of practicality.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
The DiPietro question must be solved.
The team can’t move on until there’s a defined answer. They can’t keep playing “will he or won’t he” for the next decade.
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Except he
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
he's even less funny than David Schwimmer
if that’s possible.
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WE WERE ON A BREAK!
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by Fabtraption on Feb 21, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Since you gave the punchline, I have the setup...
“What did one DiPietro bone say to the other?”
by GreekIsles83 on Feb 21, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
DiPietro walks into a bar.
Doctors say he’ll be out 4-6 weeks.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
by Turgeon1992 on Feb 21, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
DiPietro walks into a bar
head first and is out with a concussion.
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
"I didn't realize the bar was a lefty."
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by Dominik on Feb 21, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
"I'm actually a righty."
"The reader of this sentence exists only while reading me."
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
DiPietro walks into Doolins.
Rolston hits him in the head with a normal slap shot fired toward Hempstead Tpke from the parking lot during a pick-up game with Doug Weight and Garth Snow.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
ONOZ
I was going to put together a very clever fish stick rick meme, but it’s gone from meme generator!
=d
This PIC is so wrong in so many ways!
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Feb 21, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Only reason DP is kept around is so he can break Billy Smith's record for most seasons with the Islanders......
…and still play less than 350 NHL games.
"Scorching the back of my neck with a revolving red light!"
!
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Feb 22, 2012 3:10 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, I had my eye on Quincy.
I think he’s a UFA, though. Half of the Avalanche are either UFAs or RFAs this summer. They’ll be an interesting team to watch.
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Just checked
RFA. So could have had at least one year…
by afrosupreme on Feb 21, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And now
Quincey to DET for their first round pick.
by afrosupreme on Feb 21, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Gobsmacking
Detroit really was that desperate. Not that Quincey’s terrible or anything, but that is, in essence, turning Steve Downie into a first-round draft pick. Holy smokestacks.
Sad about Quincey. Less of a logjam in Colorado means less chance the Isles can claim some of those players on the cheap and improve their own rearguard.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Detroit knows that to find those Zetterberg gems...
no self-respecting Red Wings GM looks anywhere but the lower rounds where none would think to look.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
So seems Colorado took Downie instead of a late 1st round pick.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
I guess they were short on scum bag pieces of shit, huh?
=d
by AP77 on Feb 21, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or didn't know a 1st was on the table.
Makes you wonder what Yzerman told the Avs.
“By the way, I might flip this guy to your conference’s first seed. Not like you’ll make the playoffs, but if you do…”
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I definitely think Montoya will be back next year
If the goalie market is bad for a veteran starter like Nabokov, what will it be like for Montoya? His best bet would be a two-way deal for peanuts. He could take another one year deal from the Islanders and, hopefully, he has a better, less-concussioney season next year.
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I think the Isles will ahve to take the summer to evaluate our goaltending prospects....
I dont even want to mention Dipietro here, but if Nabby signs, we have Poulin and Nilsson in the bridge with one of them possibly becoming the backup. We also had to move Koskinen out of Bridgeport bc the goalie situation was too crowded down there. Im not exactly sure what Koskinen’s current situation is like, but if he’s back next year we would have an extremely crowded crease again.
by LaFontaine16 on Feb 21, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Isles still have his rights
Once his loan ends he comes back stateside. I think that, for his and Nilsson’s sakes as much as for Nabby, the Islanders have to do something with RDP. Koskinen is very talented and I think he has a good chance of continuting his strong play next season, and be a viable third goalie/emergency callup behind Nabokov and Poulin.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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I was thinking more that the Isles wouldn't bring him back
In their dream world, it’s Nabokov/Poulin, Nilsson/Koskinen, with The Albatross floating somewhere in the middle.
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I just figured he'd be a cheap insurance policy
because god knows they need one.
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hopefully that middle is.....
face down in the middle of a lake. No im j/k. I seriously like Rick and feel bad for him and have always supported him, but said this year was the final straw. Its obvious that its over for him. He just needs to understand that now too. However, if i were in his shoes, im not walking away from 4.5 million dollars over the next how many years……..
by LaFontaine16 on Feb 21, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Part of me wonders if all of this year's maneuvers
Are part of the long, on-paper dance toward some sort of insurance settlement, whatever it may be. The talk of full recovery in the face of all evidence is either showing earnest for injury claim purposes, or part of the grand delusion that is Wang & Co.’s affinity for the man.
When I look at the Islanders’ decisions in goal since the 2009 draft, everything points to laying the groundwork for what was then already at least a 50/50 possibility of him never being NHL-quality again.
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by Dominik on Feb 21, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Salary cap probably plays a big role too.....
While Garth has said he’s never had restrictions i think it would be ignorant to assume that Charles Wang isnt trying to save as much money as possible. If the Isles bought out Rick he would be paying a large sum of money and then have to spend another 3 or 4 mil on a player to replace him to reach the cap floor. I try not to follow up on all the technicalities of contracts and buyouts so you would know a lot more than me about this Dom, but i would think this plays some sort of role in Rick still being around. Also, this was his 1st season in a while that he was coming into completely healthy, but even after his injuries Garth is on record of saying that he expects a full recovery from DP. So who knows where their heads are at
by LaFontaine16 on Feb 21, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
I think he's still around in part because he's a sunk cost
(I mean, aside from any Wang-DiPietro affinity that we hear about but don’t know on record.)
Sunk cost as in they don’t save any money by cutting or burying him right now (to say nothing of buying out, which is huge and at this point would still cost more than if he retired in two years): It costs them money regardless.
If by salary cap playing a role you mean the floor, then I agree wholeheartedly.
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The problem with Montoya is
does he want a two-year deal? Montoya is trying to make a name for himself as a starting goaltender in the NHL, so is he willing to sign a two-way deal where he would possibly even be playing back-up at the Bridge? Unfortunately, I don’t think so.
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I doubt he'll have much choice
He really hasn’t improved his stock this year.
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by Dominik on Feb 21, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think he'd get a two-way from another team, not the Islanders
That’s why I think he’d stay. Better to back-up Nabokov than ride the bench in Peoria (or where ever)
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I think Poulin's game has been off due to the callups
He’s sat for a prolonged period and it’s hurt him, has helped Nilsson though.
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I have not been impressed with Poulin at all......
of course i dont get to watch him in the bridge so i havent really seen what he is capable of. He always looks nervous and (i dont want to say unfocused but) rusty to start every game. He sometimes looks a little too adventurous in the crease too for my liking, but he’s young and these are things that goalies figure out as they mature. From what i ahve seen though he is not NHL ready adn the team cant really afford him the luxury to learn that at the NHL level right now. We need to continue to take steps forward
by LaFontaine16 on Feb 21, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
OK so you are a 21 year old kid
There are 3 goalies on the main squad and two other prospects fighting with you for 2 NHL jobs. You finally get the callup. Instead of just doing what you normally do you go out of your way to try and impress the coaches so you can stay on. Instead you fall on your face trying too hard. I think this is why he has the problems at the start of games. Instead of just doing what he is good at he is overthinking it. Mechanically he is great and his AHL success shows he can do it. And when he’s on he is great. I just think he needs games up here to get used to the NHL.
No Sleep 'til....We Find Some Secondary Scoring
by Anarcurt on Feb 21, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yea i agree....
judging from his #’s at Bridgeport, this would appear to be more of an adjustment period he is going through rather than a concern. Even before Bridgeport, Patrick Roy called him the best goalie in whatever league he was playing in (dont remember what it was)
by LaFontaine16 on Feb 21, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
The Q
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by edavidmorris on Feb 21, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn't you make the same mistakes if given some shots at the big time?
I think it is Poulin’s immaturity as a rookie. He wants to impress so bad (and he has in that post ASG win against the Canes), but he is hurting his image. Maybe tonight he settles down.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
He's also an athletic kid without a lot of technique yet
Guys like that tend to look sensational, and then awful, without any in-between. Remember the Dallas game, where he was shutting out the Stars and then in the third period the wheels came off? That’s being 21 for you. Having a solid foundation of training and discipline to fall back on will help with the nerves.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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The kid's alright
I am reading a lot more negative comments on Poulin as of late (I don’t mean just you guys here, just in general). Lots of questioning his viability as an NHL goaltender. Its true he’s looked bad, but this very same year he had a crazy long shut out streak at the Bridge. He’s gonna have ups and downs. I think his kid has already shown he has the talent to become the Isles #1, perhaps just needs another year or two of seasoning before taking that job. DP very much looked the same until he settled down and was handed the keys.
by GreekIsles83 on Feb 21, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's not like he plays in front of a stellar defense
Hamonic is the only defensive d-man worth anything, streit has not been himself this year.
AMac's actually pretty good
and Streit’s been okay, he’s just not been first year Isle Streit.
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I'm being quite honest.
He’s been okay. Possession numbers are decent, if unspectacular, he’s faced good competition, etc.
Let’s save terrible for the four terrible D-Men on our team, okay?
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by garik16 on Feb 21, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
wheres bill torrey when
We need him, while I understand he didn’t have to deal with todays rules, contracts and markets but I’d bet the house he could pull a deal for nabby and pap that would cover the back page for 2 days
by WRANGLERICK on Feb 21, 2012 4:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Bailey
Numerous times throughout the Chat Staple alluded to the possibility of Josh getting traded. I wonder where that’s coming from and how much is behind it.
what do you mean by the Bailey thing? I didnt get a chance to hear or read the whole chat...
by LaFontaine16 on Feb 21, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Transcript-Sorry it was once, not numerous times
I really don’t think they’ll be very active, Josh, even on July 1. The defense UFA market is atrocious, and the forwards aren’t much better. If Snow can find a deal for an underachieving forward elsewhere and package Josh Bailey in the move, I think he’d do that. Other than Bailey, there aren’t many players signed through next season who could be on the block.
He's really the odd man out
Nielsen is a third line center, Reasoner (or Pandolfo or whoever) covers the fourth. Bailey hasn’t established himself as a top six or second line center. He’s signed through next year at a reasonable rate. He’s been a pretty good PKer and is still young enough to have a good upside.
I saw those mentions and wondered myself. Maybe find a partner with an equally enigmatic defenseman and maybe there’s a trade there. But, like all trade speculation, it’s probably more educated guess than anything solid. Garth doesn’t sound like the type to tip off his moves.
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by PGI on Feb 21, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
reasoners so called "role"
of being a good face off guy is a sham. every time i watch him take one – he loses. i’d like to see his percentage in the last 10 games, or however many he’s played since he came back from his injury. i’d be shocked if it was over 50%
bailey it seems has been doing excellent on his draws. anyone have the numbers?
Bailey has been terrible this year. 44%
Reasoner is 54% on the year. In the 4 games since he came back his #s are 47%, 57%, 63%, 55%.
So basically the opposite of what you said?
by afrosupreme on Feb 21, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Penalty Killing?
hes been decent at that, but yeah everything else seems pretty mediocre to shite
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by Zhora on Feb 21, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Annoying you?
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Feb 21, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
He's very very very good
at getting our hopes up and then smashing them down.
If you isolate the games he played with neither Rolston nor Comeau on his line...
…he’s had an okay season. I still think it is more of his line mates, especially since he and Ullstrom looked pretty effective together.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Whereever could we find the numbers?
I’m cool just accepting the “sham” based on what you see every time you watch.
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bailey in the last 10 or so i mean,
he’s seems like he’s been better.
reasoner has only played 4 games? jeez, its torture watching him. it seems like 20. i guess its not bad but he just blows in every other way, winning half your draws doesnt do much for me
Just like Konopka!
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Feb 21, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Ok - sorry - trolling a bit there...
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Feb 21, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
and he's not afraid to make changes too
Doug Weight tells the media that the same lines and d-pairs as yesterday will go, at least to start. #isles
Why yes, I do have a man crush on Bailey and Martin, and no, I don't care what you think about it
Doug Weight Interim Coach Tonight
Cappy too sick to coach. Wow.
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For anyone wanting Capuano to get his walking papers
tonight will be a sneak preview of what the next regime will look like.
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My thoughts too
DW is clearly going to be the next head coach.
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by edavidmorris on Feb 21, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
how to fall upwards: an autobiography by Brian Rolston
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
by ArsenalLI on Feb 21, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Guerin?
Try DiPietro and Yashin.
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Better questions:
1) What would the team do?
2) Is it possible that more players have a bit of it already? (Seriously)
It is Diduck.
by Paumanok on Feb 21, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You'd think instead of sending Nabby home
They’d have sent him on a coughing tour of their houses.
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by Dominik on Feb 21, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
CAPSPIRACY: How Favored Sun Doug Weight Stole the HC Job
Brian Rolston Given Front Seat on Team Shuttle.
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by Dominik on Feb 21, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
PICTURES OF LADIES
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LighthouseHockey.com "confirms" reports
first reported by unnamed outlets elsewhere.
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Trying to think of the last positive surprise
This team gave? None come to mind. I starting to feel like if Bailey was gone that he would not be missed. I don’t think I give more attention and affection to anything else in my life that is so dissapointing. No deadline trades no fa pick ups. I have to get excited forthe draft every year of a bunch of kids I won’t see for another 3.5 years. Thank god for JT, Moulson, Martin, Hamonic and PA cause most everyone else with the big club is underachiving (also sans Nabby but I don’t trust his intentions). Ok I feel better, no I don’t
Good god
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Feb 21, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
Chick on the left seems relieved to hear....
“…gently with a chainsaw.”
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
been asking that question since November.
As if we needed objective confirmation as to how sickening they are, they have literally made their head coach ill.
@NYIslanders
Doug Weight tells the media that the same lines and d-pairs as yesterday will go, at least to start. #isles
Well now I feel better. It’s not as if yesterday wasn’t a clusterfuck.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
Correct
And today is Tuesday, whereas yesterday’s game was played on Monday.
It’s totally different.
=d
...I didn't say it'll be different?
I’m sure they’ll play like ass today like they did yesterday, my point was the press cahnference at least won’t sound as terrible.
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Don't worry
He will have plenty of time to mix up the lines once the team is down 2-0 less than two minutes into the game.
=d
You mean after 50 minutes have been played when the game is out of reach?
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
Will weight have the nuts to actually switch up the lines or does he
Just stand behind the bench and yell at the ref for all the bs penalties we are going to take tonight?
The team is playing away from home tonight
so I expect them put up at least some effort.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
Is that because there is no one to disappoint tonight, so they figure no reason to mail it in?
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
The team only gets energy from the jeers from opposing fanbases.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
And they can't get any from the jeers of their own fanbase?
Must be why they are dynamite on the road.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
Am I the only one worried that Weight will get tossed by the end of the 1st period?
Who would be the coach, then?
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 5:52 PM EST reply actions
scott allen will coach haad and smaat.
by randyboyd on Feb 21, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
That's right!
Isles rally back with 4 streit goals to win 4-2. Captain tells Snow, “I want Scott to be head coach.” Cappy and Doug gone. The rest is history. (After the future takes place.)
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
Lightning now have 2 1st round and 4 2nd round picks in this years draft.
Hm, rebuild mode for Stevie Y?
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And Lecavalier is injuried now
Have their franchise star: Stamkos and their Francise D-man: Hedman. Need supporting help and a G
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by edavidmorris on Feb 21, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Alas, we don't have a G for them this year.
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To be honest
Yzerman was already in rebuild mode last year — his team just surprised him by going on a run.
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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.
The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.
1980-81
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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.
Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.
1981-82
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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.
A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.
1982-83
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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.
Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.
