Islanders vs. Sabres Gameday: Rebound (again?) or Unload?
by Dominik on Feb 21, 2012 6:15 AM EST
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PrintThe Islanders' last 10 games have been an aesthetically balanced -- if you're into form over function -- but competitively ugly sequence of win-loss, win-loss, though all 10.
That includes one shootout loss (so hey, a point salvaged from Buffalo last meeting) that helped ensure they linger around NHL quasi-.500, which is a fool's gold of our era, or more plainly: well below the level they'd need for a compelling playoff push. (Though if you could only exclude those first 20 games...)
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The NHL trade deadline is now six days and three games away. What happens on the ice and in the standings between now and then shouldn't impact decision-making very much, but it might frame the headlines on Feb. 27's TSN-apalooza. In that sense, yesterday's 6-0 fail at home against the Senators screams, "Team not ready. Sell extraneous parts as market demand dictates."
Which is fine. Well, not "fine" in an acceptable sort of way, but "fine" in a way that the future, in at least one more February, can be allowed to outweigh the present. Because this year's team should be the kind that can talk of playoffs, and they kind of are, but ultimately fall short barring a miracle. Six points behind and too many teams between them and eighth means miracle-or-bust territory.
So all of the ambiguous "veteran" intangibles and "how to be a pro" lessons should be in the bag by Feb. 27. If the near-sage Evgeni Nabokov is agreeable to staying and settling the young folks, so be it -- the goalie market is bollocks even for the teams who probably do need goaltending. But aside from that always shaky crease situation, the time to evaluate Aaron Nesses of the world is soon upon us.
While the Islanders and Nabokov's mutual stance appears to be looking toward continuing their relationship rather than parting for whatever a goalie fetches these days, it's impossible to avoid seeing the trade deadline shape the next week of competition.
Yesterday, P.A. Parenteau had one frustrating game -- earning misconducts from the refs (who, in the legal tradition of our times, saw zero infractions when he was hauled down and slashed, his stick turned into mince meat before their eyes). Parenteau is one of the more vocal Isles on the ice and that was one awful blowout, but it's hard not to speculate and see his frustration in the the context of an uncertain future.
He's on a team that isn't quite there yet but which has gotten where it is in part thanks to his work in an important role. If he joins another team or tests the market this summer, despite his 41 assists (now 5th in the NHL) his money and term and role on a potential new team are all unclear.
All of Walsh's horses and all of Walsh's tweets cannot change that uncertainty.
You would think these two sides would be able to come to an agreement -- and hey, maybe they're the rare pair that truly will agree to revisit after the season or after the deadline -- but with Walsh doing his "now is the time to play hockey" drill it looks less likely. Rumors of a Parenteau move have yet to take off (ah, yet sometimes the fire erupts where it's quietest), but the logic is there if he can't be signed now.
For Buffalo, tonight's opponent, pending UFA Paul Gaustad is one of the names with a bigger deadline shadow looming. The Sabres are but one point behind the Islanders, but the contrast in expectations means they're obviously disappointed sellers while the Islanders are at least in name, and at for perhaps three more games, aspirational non-sellers.
Although after yesterday, expect sales at any moment. Here's looking at you, Mark Eaton.
Isles Notes and General Links of Diversion
- Newsday reports Evgeni Nabokov did not make this trip, not having skated yesterday with his flu symptoms. Travis Hamonic did skate at least (as did Mike Mottau), so the blueline is in the vicinity of getting some bodies back -- which is timely, should any be sent packing as deadline rentals.
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The Isles official site on Aaron Ness after eight games. One thing we know is that he caught their eye in training camp -- surprising to some, including yours truly -- and he's turned out to be the Bridgeport guy who's gotten the longest look so far this year.
- Michael Fornabaio has the details of the Sound Tigers' domination yesterday, as well as the location for his 1:30 p.m. chat today. Some of our LHH readers discussed that game and the state of the prospects in this FanPost.
- On that note, here's Mark's weekly prospect report from Sunday.
- Mike Farber of SI talks to Hall Gill and Chris Campoli about being trade deadline meat.
- Speaking of the trade deadline, now is the perfect time of year where you too can become a self-proclaimed NHL Insider by using the E.K.L.U.N.D. System.
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Can one of you guys...
….who are on the Twitter ask Staple or someone about this Eaton thing? All we have is the guys from the Sens mentioning this, but nothing from ISLES beat reporters? Or did I miss something. Thanks!
by barry_hal_oliver_24 on Feb 21, 2012 7:13 AM EST reply actions
I guess someone could do that.
But if Staple says it’s not true, it would make a lot of people sad. Let them have their dreams, man! Don’t be a dream hater.
by Les Beaver on Feb 21, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Maybe Eaton's actual quote was
“You gots gotta get me the hell outta this place, man! Put me in an equipment bag, I’ll ride under the bus with you across the border, then hitchhike to TO, Winnipeg or wherever. Seriously, get me off of this island now.”
The plan was all set. Eaton was going to stowaway on the Senators bus. But he moved so slow that it left without him.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
by PGI on Feb 21, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Mark Eaton: “I won a Stanley Cup, damnit!”
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
by Fabtraption on Feb 21, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Said Charles Wang:
“So now that we got a Stanley Cup guy, it means we won it too. Right?”
“No, doesn’t really work that way, Charles….”
“Oh. Shit. My bad. How long did we sign him for?”
“Too long….”
by Les Beaver on Feb 21, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He's still waiting
"If you have what you say you have, I’ll make you rich. If you don’t, I’ll make you into shoes" Jim Moriarty 1/1/2012
by Francesca on Feb 21, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I did ask him a couple of hours ago
But he doesn’t seem to have been on twitter yet today, so no response as of now
The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.
by Chris McNally on Feb 21, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Mark Eaton is so slow
it takes over 24 hours for a rumor to spread about him on Twitter.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
by Fabtraption on Feb 21, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
He asked for that trade at the All Star break
and it’s just getting out now.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
by PGI on Feb 21, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I'm sure the conversation went something like this:
Eaton: “Hi Garth, I would like to be traded.”
Garth: “Sorry dude, I’ve tried all year, but no one wants you.”
by JPinNYC on Feb 21, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
btw
What Dean Brown (not Denis Potvin) said on the broadcast last night: “Got a text message from John Shannon (also a Sportsnet guy) who reminded me also that Mark Eaton has asked to be traded”. Potvin then: “That’s a very good point by our JS.”
There’s also something on the Toronto Sun page:
When Ottawa Senators commentator Denis Potvin suggested Detroit director of pro scouting Mark Howe and Florida Panthers scout Peter Mahovlich were in attendance for Monday’s Sens-Islanders game to eye Isles hulking 6-foot-4, 253-pound defenceman Milan Jurcina, Howe and Mahovlich broke into wry grins while refusing to verbally acknowledge Povin’s suggestion. Potvin later was informed that Isles defenceman Mark Eaton has asked for a trade and likely is in play too.
Jesus
If we could get anything for either of them it would be a joyous, joyous day.
by afrosupreme on Feb 21, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm telling you....it's a seller's market on D
One of them (at least) will go and we will get a decent return (which is anything really). That’s got to be why Wishart is still up. Someone’s on their way out.
No Sleep 'til....We Find Some Secondary Scoring
that is why Wishart was called up to be sure
in case a trade was happening during the trip to Winn/StL – would have left us short
maybe he’ll play tonight – we’ll see
flu seems to be going around, so who knows
That or injury/flu
Which has come to pass at least once already.
Certainly the team has to be prepared for “offers you can’t refuse” for any of the UFAs. Even with the injury/PTO situation in Bridgeport, they’ve got to be ready for that.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Yeah, I'm not too swayed by the rumors of one or the other
But if they can cash in any of them, do it!
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
only makes sense.
if the team has already decided not to resign Eaton next year, his best chance @ extending his NHL career is to join someone else now
by CanadianIsleslifer on Feb 21, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Mike Mottau is skating again...
that makes me feel better.
Hopefully Hamonic is back for the Rangers. As far as tonight goes, is there any chance they start to use Wishart. What are they worried about, it’s not like they’d get beat 6-0 or something.
There shouldn’t be any call ups from BPT as the ST’s just did 3 in 3. But that haley guy has been playing pretty well, and Capuano’s presser was focused on team toughness… here’s an opportunity to make some people happy… and while they’re gassing up the shuttle bus… Ullstrom?
I believe in ELI! Go Blue!
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If it makes anybody feel better
Brian Rolston is even older now.
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Happy birthday, Brian Rolston! nyisl.es/8MGL0 #Isles
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by Fabtraption on Feb 21, 2012 8:36 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Rolston replied
“Get off my lawn!” as he drove away in his Gran Torino……
Being born in New York and rooting for the Islanders, Jets, and Mets. Yeah, I know.
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by CharlieIsles on Feb 21, 2012 9:18 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
this has
been a nauseating ride with the win one, lose one. No consistency, do not want to win at home, and just layed a major egg yesterday. My dad even said, so do you think you will be watching the full game or just 20 minutes. How about less.
Just to win 3 games in a row on this team seems impossible.
Hopefully there is a shake up after yesterdays game, maybe they finally get some sense to bring up a few guys for the week and sit the old dogs, who for all their veteran experience clearly have nothing to say to the young lads about crunch time. You would have thought they would have been prepared for a game like that with a home crowd, a big 2 points, and the end of the season nearing.
Lets see what happens.
If the Isles can resign Nabokov
it would be a major step in the right direction. Bear with me on this one, but there’s all this talk about free agents not wanting to sign here, even to the point where the Isles can throw money at a UFA and still have them sign somewhere else for less money. If Nabokov signs here before the season is up, given his recent history of sitting out last season after the Isles claimed him off waivers, Garth having to toll the contract, and all the press in the NHL world this garnered the team and Nabokov would do more to make the Isles look better in the eyes of Free Agents than anything else they can do right now. Does this mean that all the free agents on the Isles shopping list will sign here, no. However, it would mean that the Isles will probably not have to throw money at potential targets, and at the very least they will give the offers a more serious look.
That’s just looking at the Isles ability to sign free agents. Nabokov is a solid goaltender, and would allow time for Poulin, Nilsson (sp?), and all the Bridgeport goalies to develop even more (whether down in the AHL or as a backup in the NHL). As well as allow the defensemen currently playing in the AHL to play some games at the NHL level, and continue their development.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing
With the whole not reporting and tolling of the contract if he is willing to sign an extension then it has to send a message to the other UFAs.
No Sleep 'til....We Find Some Secondary Scoring
Problem with "this" is, nobody wanted to sign Nabokov last season or pay him beyond minimal money after he had a great season.
For one reason or another, his return to the nhl was gonna be taking a backup job on the Red Wings(not bad, but it’s still a backup job). If we didn’t “resurrect” his career, he may very well have ended up as a backup goalie for the next couple seasons, and possibly the end of his career.
But I’m all on board for bringing him back for a year or 2 if he’ll sign, if he won’t sign then trade him(as long as he’ll approve with his NTC/NMC :-) ).
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
"John Tavares(a top 10 forward in the NHL)"-Neil Greenberg
Yeah, that's true
I still think having an established vet sign here, and one that can still play at the NHL level will open up a few doors. Plus, having him turn around and resign with this team might just signal to some of the other UFA’s that this team is getting exciting. I agree with you, but you never know how resigning a guy like Nabokov will effect the rest of the league.
by IDCWhoYouLike on Feb 21, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Im pretty sure the reason nobody signed him
Was because he was looking for similar money to his last contract with the Sharks, which was like ~5 million a year I think. The reason he wasnt in the NHl wasnt because he was no longer a legit NHL starting goalie, but because he priced himself out of the market. Thats how we got Marty Biron that one summer
"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992
That's part of it. But I'm not sure how much money and team wants/need played into it.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
"John Tavares(a top 10 forward in the NHL)"-Neil Greenberg
Play-offs
It’s entirely possible to get rid of the older guys, make multiple call-ups, and make a run for the playoffs. Have your cake and eat it too. 3 or 4 hungry young guys thrown into the mix could have surprising results. I say to Eaton and the rest, thank-you, but good-bye. Ride Nabby to the end, maybe extend him a year or two, but make major changes. Do this, and let’s see if the coaching staff can sort it all out.
Bridgeports D is injured, too.
Youre talking about getting rid of everyone you dont like, there are literally not enough healthy defensemen with NHL contracts for that. And sorry, but doing that would not get them in the playoffs.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
You are correct...
…and most of the guys playing are on PTO. Which means that when guys like Katic, deHaan they will need to make decissions on Gentile, Landry, Olesky, Cunningham and Jackson.
If you haven’t been paying attention to the SoundTigers you’re probably wondering who these guys are. The only defenseman drafted by the Islanders in yesterday’s game was Donovan.
They are in absolutely no shape to have defensemen in the NHL. Wishart probably is the most “deserving”, and equally “ready” as Ness. He is also stuck because if the Isles waive him he’ll be gone for sure. But they continue to play the undersized Ness. Not that Ness has done a bad job, but when you look for a physical response after a 6-0 trouncing it’s not going to be from Aaron Ness.
Getting rid of Eaton is not likely unless (highly possible) they are willing to commit to Wishart through the end of the season. I’d expect Hamonic to be back on Friday and that would mean Ness goes back to BPT.
If the other’s return the ST’s will probably keep guys like Olesky, Landry and Gentile who have performed well under Thompson. The puck moving ability of Katic, deHaan and Reese will probably give them the ability to go deep in the playoffs.
You’d have to expect some ATO’s. Kabanov, should be eligible when his team’s season ends because he is under his NHL ELC, even though he will be 19 until July.
The end of the AHL season will be way more interesting than the NHL season for us.
I believe in ELI! Go Blue!
@JPinVA
The Playoffs are a distance this team won't get to this year.
With one line doing most of the scoring, and the second line only scoring every other game, there is little to no chance of making the playoffs.
Our defense is not a good one, even with the injured players.
Nabby gets sick and Toyota can’t stop a puck.
All the opposition has to worry about is our first line.
Oh and nobody hits on the team except Martin. And he has stopped doing even that.
Guess it’s back to Fail for Nail.
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!! Come, Get some respect a Professional team deserves!!
by Martys301 on Feb 21, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nobody's catching Columbus for that honor.
Unless you’re talking about the 2% chance (or whatever it is for fifth from last) at winning the lottery.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Feb 21, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Odds of winning the 1st overall pick:
Odds of Winning the 1st Overall Pick
48.2% – Last place team/Blue Jackets
18.8% – 2nd to last place team
14.2% – 3rd to last place team
10.7% – 4th to last place team
8.1% – 5th to last place team
Chance of winning the lottery beyond that and moving up 4spots:
6.2% – 6th to last place
4.7% – 7th to last place
3.6% – 8th to last place
2.7% – 9th to last place
2.1% – 10th to last place
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
"John Tavares(a top 10 forward in the NHL)"-Neil Greenberg
It's either playoffs or fail for nail? No middle ground?
by Metzfan22 on Feb 21, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Flop like seal...
…for Mikhail?
"The reader of this sentence exists only while reading me."
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How does scratching a player who doesn't deserve playing time
Based on poor performance setting a bad tone?
The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.
by Chris McNally on Feb 21, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
I think he means
continuously playing a player with a performance like Rolston’s sets the bad tone.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
by Fabtraption on Feb 21, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
well then
reasoner, nino, and pando all need to sit too… if we follow that logic… because they all have a combined what? 6 goals and 17 points? ATROCIOUS
These comments crawl up from the depths of the deepest Chasm of Saar
Reasoner, Nino, and Pandolfo
have all sat at different points in the season. I’m not saying they’re not terrible – they are. But you can’t bench an entire line. Outside of four players (Tavares, Moulson, Martin, Parenteau), the entire Islanders offense has disappointed.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
by Fabtraption on Feb 21, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
by Fabtraption on Feb 21, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Reasoner and Pandolfo have "roles" - for faceoffs and PK, etc. They, sorta, do this.
Rolston’s role is to create offense. He does not serve his role.
Nino is 19 and has a future, so he needs to learn. I’d like to see him get more minutes, not less.
That would've been an awesome F you to the CBA
to sign Rolston and scratch him the whole year unless he’s injured. Just blatantly pointing out to the NHL that the Cap Floor is too high.
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
by ArsenalLI on Feb 21, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You would get a grievance from the NHLPA
But other than that – I love this idea.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Feb 21, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Awesome. Collecting his paycheck in Bridgeport all year(or the luxury box).
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
"John Tavares(a top 10 forward in the NHL)"-Neil Greenberg
Reddened.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
the problem with trades
1 – what would we really get? Teams likely value their own draft picks more & more given economic times
2 – would players come here? we know that’s not always possible
3 – how many teams are really going to trade us something useful? 30 NHL teams are too many for the real talent out there – and talent drops off a cliff once you get to the AHL level
Trading sounds like a good concept at this point esp. vets with no likely Long Island future (Eaton, etc.) – even Nabokov may not get much in return
Not expecting any activity at all for the reasons above other than hopefully a signing of Nabokov for 1 year + an team option for a second year
There are no "team options" in the NHL.
No point in hoping for things that are literally impossible.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
The only real value we could hope to find...
1. Teams looking to dump salary/term for prospects/picks. If you could match needs here you could come out the big winner. The premium on D at this point makes this highly unlikely.
2. Getting draft picks in a deep draft for expiring assets. You still have pretty valuable assets in Parentau and Nabokov. What are <25 games of either really worth to the Islanders. You’d have to take a second rounder for either. I think the team would benefit greatly by signing both of them, but they can do that in July… regardless of where they finish the season. If they don’t sign extensions you have to deal them, or you’ve lost.
3. If you can get somebody to take Rolston for a 6th round pick in 2020 you will have crawled out of the bottom of the joke butt pile and replaced yourself with your trading partner.
I believe in ELI! Go Blue!
@JPinVA
Yet somehow we got a 1st rounder for Campoli a few years back
And all the trades we have seen so far have looked like overvalues. Do not underestimate the irrationality of GMs during the deadline.
No Sleep 'til....We Find Some Secondary Scoring
by Anarcurt on Feb 21, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't forget
Comrie was in that deal too.
by afrosupreme on Feb 21, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Comrie and McAmmond cancelled one another out in that trade.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
I miss Dean McAmmond, actually
He and Josef Vasicek (RIP) and Bryan Berard were among the few I wish the team could have found room for moving forward. For that matter, Mike Iggulden always kind of intrigued me too – big guy, righty shot on RW, three-year relative uh, I mean teammate of Matt Moulson at Cornell.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Feb 21, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Dean was fine
I remember his Islanders birthday cake pic when he was a little kid. :)
JoVas and Berard, I agree- wish they would ahve stayed here. JoVas is the biggest headscratcher of them all, IMO… he was a good Islander.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Value wise, why would you say that? Neither Comrie nor Dean did much else.
Campoli was on their radar for a while- they wanted him, they got him- and thats what it took. They thought Campy was worth more than he actually is worth.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Mike Comrie scored 30 goals multiple times. Granted his skills had fallen off, but so many times there’s that hope a guy can regain it, and you can catch lightning in a bottle. See: Brian Rolston.
Even if they overvalued Campoli (which they did), it wasn’t Campoli for a first.
Thats your opinion.
Its totally subjective, anyway.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
It's actually not an opinion
there were four assets traded in a single trade. A first round pick and McAmmond for Campoli and Comrie. That is a fact.
YOUR opinion is that it was Comrie for McAmmond and Campoli for a first. That’s not a fact.
It is my opinion that is how their value lined up in the trade.
There is nothing to argue in that, Afro. Nothing. Im not the only one who share that opinion.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Well I guess that settles it then
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Feb 21, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
If you call having different opinions "settled" then yeah, I guess?
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
This sub-thread plays out just like all of the others
A hair gets split in spite of the intent being clear (or a misunderstanding being clear). And the comments regress into sniping.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Feb 21, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thats how afro sounds normally, I do not think he is "regressing into sniping".
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
No sniping! Not seeing the sniping!
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
The point isn’t really making the playoffs. I’m just saying let’s see if they can jell as a very young team, and hopefully kickstart a true youth movement next season. If Nabby stays hot and they stay in the race, bonus.
by 4195mary on Feb 21, 2012 9:53 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Long time reader; first time poster
As far as PA and Nabokov we need to look at the facts-
PA- Says he likes LI to the media, but hasn’t signed. His agent says they want to wait till the season is over. PA has said to the media that this is his only chance at a big payday. To me this means he wants to test the waters in the summer and will go to the highest bidder. He doesn’t care about a cup or building something on LI, he just wants to get paid. This does not mean that he will not resign with the Isles.
Nabokov- Put up a shit fit when the Isles acquired him and refused to play. Now he says he likes LI. I have not read anything about him saying he wants to stay. (Correct me if I am wrong) Nabokov is old and running on his last 1-2 good years. He was willing to take 500k to play for the Wings and a shot at the cup. He wants to win a cup. The Isles are no where near contention. I honestly think he just playing nice now, so he can be traded to a contender or sign with one this off season.
In all honesty, I hope they resign both before the deadline. But, if they do not we have to trade them and hope PA resigns over the summer. Also, I wouldn’t mind overpaying PA for 3-4 years and Nabokov for 1 year. This way we can get to the cap floor and not have sign vets like Rolston. This way we can start playing our young guys more. I would rather see rookie mistakes then mistakes because they are old and cant keep up.
by HockeyMonster on Feb 21, 2012 10:03 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I've seen this guy post over on the QMHL and CHL websites.
He’s a MONSTER. Says it right there in his name: MONSTER.
/ P. McGuire.
I’d also like to see PA and Nabby back.
by Les Beaver on Feb 21, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Welcome aboard, HM
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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PA said he wants to get paid what he's worth
That doesn’t necessarily mean highest bidder.
No Sleep 'til....We Find Some Secondary Scoring
by Anarcurt on Feb 21, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nabby might be playing nice
…but he also might be realizing the goalie market is flooded, last time he went to free agency he ended up in Russia on an Island-bound odyssey, and the key for goalies to get a chance at playing for a Cup is to be playing NHL hockey first.
If he signs, he has a job, playing time, and a GM typically willing to deal him to a contendah if things go south again.
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I disagree of PA.
PA may score goals because he does have good hands, but what we might get in return in trade could be better.
I think he may be asking too much for what he’s worth.
He’s no first liner. The only reason we play him there is because of our coach, who can’t make up his mind.
While Okposo is a digger in the corners, PA is circling looking for a play that often results in him coughing up the puck because he’s held it too long.
Sign Nabby for at least another year. Age isn’t a dis-qualifier for goalies, quality is.
Until someone can prove our Bridgeport guys can step up and maintain the same standards he can, it’s not worth replacing him.
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by Martys301 on Feb 21, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah Okposo's been awesome on the first line
That must be why he’s no longer on it.
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by Fabtraption on Feb 21, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd, Marty
I’m with you on Nabokov. Many goalies have played at a high level from 35-40. He could be an ideal mentor for Poulin, especially because Nabby is positional and efficient, while Poulin is still more of an athletic scrambler. He needs to incorporate more technique to get the most out of his reactive skills, and Nabokov is a great example to learn from.
I’m not sure about PAP. Fifth in assists is very impressive, considering the Isles’ dearth of finishers. To see it another way:
player AS TmG %
H Sedin 51 188 27.1
Giroux 46 192 24.0
Karlsson 45 180 25.0
Datsyuk 43 183 23.5
*PAP 41 135 30.4*
Thornton 40 161 24.8
Malkin 39 177 22.0
Spezza 38 180 21.1
Lupul 38 175 21.7
B Cmpbl 37 141 26.2
Parenteau is doing far more with a lot less than these other guys. I think this marks him as a clear first-line quality wing. The real problem is that the Isles have gotten so much less out of their second line and defense in terms of goal production.
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Oh pisser
What happened to my table? Stinking fixed-width font.
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that's sarcasm font
isn’t it? i wouldn’t believe your #’s anyway
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by bob l on Feb 21, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fixed
player AS TmG %
H Sedin 51 188 27.1
Giroux 46 192 24.0
Karlsson 45 180 25.0
Datsyuk 43 183 23.5
*PAP 41 135 30.4*
Thornton 40 161 24.8
Malkin 39 177 22.0
Spezza 38 180 21.1
Lupul 38 175 21.7
B Cmpbl 37 141 26.2
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Thanks Francesca
The upshot is, Parenteau has assisted on a much higher percentage of his team’s goals than any other player in the league, by a good margin. If he was a Canuck, for example, and carrying an equivalent share of their goal-scoring load, he would have 57 assists.
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If JT was a Canuck he'd be on the verge of a 105pts+ season, but that's somewhat beside the point.
PAP is a great playmaker, but every forward you have on that list besides PAP and Thornton are on the verge of a 25goal+ season and have a track record of being 50pts+ players. I love PAP as a player, but by no means think he’s a top 5/top 10 playmaking forward in the NHL repeatedly for the next few years without excellent circumstances. And still playmaking is great, PAP isn’t a great goalscorer and most of his production can be filled in for over the next few years if we lose him.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
"John Tavares(a top 10 forward in the NHL)"-Neil Greenberg
That's not entirely accurate
Henrik Sedin only has 13 goals. Datsyuk has 16. Neither of them are heading for 25 unless they pick it up in March. Giroux and Lupul aren’t proven 50+ point guys, either: it’s only Giroux’s third full year, and Lupul has hit 50+ only three times in eight seasons. And first-line doesn’t mean top-ten, it means top-30. I think Parenteau is one of the 30 best right wings in the league right now. (I’d say roughly 26th.)
Parenteau has the fewest games played of anyone on that list other than Karlsson. In that sense you could say that his track record is less than the other guys… but it also means that he has made good in each of his two full seasons – 53 points each, and still counting in this year.
Do you know who has never had a 53-point season? Kyle Okposo. And Michael Grabner. And Frans Neilsen. Moulson only has one, last year. Parenteau is more valuable than I think we realize, especially on a team that might not score 200 goals for the entire season. How are you going to fill in most of his production when he’s figured in nearly 40% of the Islanders’ goals this year? (53 of 135)
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I don't think anyone has stated that at all, do you have any evidence of this?
I’ve stated before I think Okposo can fill-in/fall into PAP’s exact role and fill-in for 75-90% of the production PAP would do repeatedly there over the next couple of years, and then someone can fill-in for Okposo in a checking role over the next couple years(cizikas/nelson/ullstrom-maybe/bailey-possibly on wing, Martin wouldn’t surprise me given his maturation this year), thus controlling the damage of losing PAP fairly well.
That said, I think the best of all worlds would be to resign PAP for another couple years.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
"John Tavares(a top 10 forward in the NHL)"-Neil Greenberg
Woops. Point was, PAP is/was the least likely of any of those players to repeat his numbers and the least valuable player on that list.
I’m making a fanpost to explain some of my reasoning that will be up today.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
"John Tavares(a top 10 forward in the NHL)"-Neil Greenberg
A bit misleading
PA is circling looking for a play that often results in him coughing up the puck because he’s held it too long.
While sometimes true, you’re making it sound like he’s Blake Comeau. He does have some bad turnovers, but he’s also tied for 3rd in the NHL in even-strength assists, many of which came from playing on the Isles’ 2nd line. He’s no Malkin with the puck, but he can protect it pretty well…. The only three guys I’d rather see with the puck entering the offensive zone are Tavares, Nielsen, and Streit. (And Nielsen’s a close call— and even Streit, because if he gets caught, it’s worse than a forward getting caught.)
Does anyone have turnovers-to-assists ratio stats for PA compared to other top-assist guys in the leauge? I’d be curious to see where he stands.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
on this
One thing we know is that he caught their eye in training camp — surprising to some, including yours truly — and he’s turned out to be the Bridgeport guy who’s gotten the longest look so far this year.
I think this long look is more of a Snow-valuation, he probably didnt get to BPT much to watch the guys, so outside of camp, he hasn’t seen him play much (my speculation only) and he wants to see what he’s got in the kid, considering he was a beast as a frosh in college, then ‘regressed’ then left for the pro’s, i’m not at all surprised at the long look considering Ness looks to move the puck to JT as often as anyone on our team.
i’ll take the rookie mistakes vs the “spin/circle back, pass back and forth” for 25 seconds that Staios and Eaton do repeatedly which forces our forwards to cycle back the the neutral zone and re-start a breakout play that the D is now COMPLETELY prepared for
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At the same time
You need defensemen that are comfortable moving the puck east – west, not just north – south. I’d like to see more breakout plays as well, but I’d rather see east – west passing in the defensive zone then a forced pass up the middle that leads to a breakout for the other team.
by IDCWhoYouLike on Feb 21, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
then you play if off the glass
i dont recall seeing Ness have a breakout pass lead to an odd man rush against, only some positioning/pinching in issues
granted, i’ve had to ffwd some of the bad games because they were not worth watching so i may have missed some…
Ness deserves his minuses, for sure, he’s shown a gross inability to hit the net on his few point shots, and some of his anticipation passes have not clicked and his size has been a liability in our Dzone corners… but i’m willing to see if he can grow while we wait for Hammer to come back.
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I wasn't talking about Ness specifically
And yeah, you chip it up the board, but sometimes that play is not available. Plus you run the risk of icing the puck on those plays. All I’m saying is that defensemen need to be as comfortable moving the puck east – west to keep possession, as well as make good break out north – south passes. If they aren’t then you run the risk of turnovers in the neutral zone as well as the defensive zone, whether or not the passes run east – west or north – south. Plus if the break out stalls in the neutral zone the forwards have to be able to trust that going back to the defense isn’t going to start a break out the other way.
by IDCWhoYouLike on Feb 21, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
The Isles are stuck
Wishart is most likely going to be with the team until the end of the season unless they are done with him. I can’t see him making it through waivers at this point of the season. There are just too many injuries for teams to pass on a 23 eyar old depth guy they don’t have to give up anything for.
Ness may be the best option to play the right side. He seems to have been on both sides in his NHL stay, and I never really paid attn to that in BPT. I can’t really see him being in the NHL after Hamonic returns. BPT could use him, and he’s one player that will benefit from improtant minutes in important games in the AHL.
The big question right now is, can they get anything for Eaton? I would think that Jurcina would be on the block, but they have absolutely no RH defenseman or any size in the organization that isn’t Travis or Milan.
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But part of that is working with guys he has not worked with before
Chemistry is rather important for a D-pair. Until you know for sure where your guy will be you will move the puck up more than across (because east west screw-ups tend to be more costly). He’s played with 3 different guys so far (I think) including a couple games on his off side. As he learns the system and the quirks of his partner(s) he should settle in a bit more.
No Sleep 'til....We Find Some Secondary Scoring
I still wasn't talking about Ness specifically
You’re right, a defenseman has to be comfortable with his partner on the blue line. All I was saying is that you can’t just have a defenseman who’s sole thought is to move it north – south, sometimes you do need to go east – west. I would rather a defenseman who is not comfortable with his teammates go up ice instead of across and give the other team a golden opportunity, but all I was trying to say is that you can’t just throw the puck up ice on defense no matter what the situation is.
by IDCWhoYouLike on Feb 21, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
I think they've been getting good reports on Ness all year
So definitely an evaluation, but more so of what he can do in the NHL after impressing since September.
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I think this long look is more of a Snow-valuation, he probably didnt get to BPT much to watch the guys, so outside of camp, he hasn’t seen him play much (my speculation only) and he wants to see what he’s got in the kid
How much do you think Snow saw of Moulson, Parenteau and Montoya before he acquired them? There’s a reason he has scouts. Plus they could always edit together footage of just Ness’ shifts from a BP game.
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acquiring players with limited personal scouting is a facet of the business
you’re talking about guys he acquired too vs guys he DRAFTED… you draft a rough gem and want to see how it is being shaped and polished when it’s your pick
i fully understand he can get all the tape in the world on Ness if he wanted, but he can also say, “hey, since Hammer’s gonna be hurt for 7-10 games, bring that Ness kid up, i want to get a better look at his game now after some Bport seasoning”
it could also have been… “%@!! hammer’s out, well, who’s got the most offensive upside down at the bridge, cuz we’re going to be giving up more goals with him out, maybe we can steal a few back”
the bottom line is after these few games, he’s not quite nhl ready, but he’s not too far over his head either…
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They have a better chance to night...
Why? They’re playing away from home. I can’t believethis team hasn’t been able to play in front of their home fans. This is not going to make fans want to keep coming out. Show some heart for your fans, for once!
I hope he picks the one year
and that it doesn’t have a NTC.
by afrosupreme on Feb 21, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I just hope he stays.
And I do hope DP wakes up and admits he can’t do it anymore.
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Buffalo fan here
Anyone want to trade some of your bums for some of ours?
We already tried with Ehrhoff
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by mikb on Feb 21, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Are we talking...
….Ryan Miller bum or Ville Leino bum?
by barry_hal_oliver_24 on Feb 21, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
*Not included
Tavares, Moulson, Okposo, Grabner, Frans, Hamonic, Ness, Nino, Martin, Bailey, Poulin, MacDonald, and none at the AHL level
by IDCWhoYouLike on Feb 21, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
So Pandolfo, Rolston, Montoya. Hey as long as we’re taking on bad contracts, maybe we can buy out DiPietro and the rights to Yashin?
by Philaster on Feb 21, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
For a boatload of wings
I guess we can part with those two, but you’re driving a real hard bargain
by IDCWhoYouLike on Feb 21, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
These two teams
have more bums than a soup kitchen.
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by PGI on Feb 21, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I think most of us are past the point of being pissed off and are trying to find silver linings to being on skid row. What gets us by is the rare opportunity to draft this high. And our burning hatred for Derek Roy.
I honestly wouldn’t have guessed there is a hate for Roy (bud admittedly don’t follow other teams closely). Why is this so?
by afrosupreme on Feb 21, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Because of certain homoerotic drunk pictures taken on Chippewa Street. That combined with his “brotastic” demeanor, his frequent lack of effort, his reputation as bad in the locker room, and most damning of all, that he’s hard to hate because we have no Center depth whatsoever and he’s on a very reasonable contract. It makes the hatred slightly more pathological in the fact that it’s sort of illogical.
by Philaster on Feb 21, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
This
is a delightful variety of hate.
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So you're telling me
that Derek Roy has not bedazzled his way into your hearth?
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by Francesca on Feb 21, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Look at that tiny person at the bottom of the cover!
Nathan Gerbe is the Dazzler’s sister?!?
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by mikb on Feb 21, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
WTF?
LOL I never saw those pics.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Those pics were created very recently by Lindy Ruff's Tie
I took the pic from this video
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I cant speak for their fans
But I think if there was M/F grabbing like that in the picurre that would get people talking the same kinda way.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think it’s an issue with him being gay, and I don’t think he is gay anyway. I took those photos in more of a fratboy homoeroticism type way. I think one of the guys there is his sibling or something. I think it speaks more to immaturity than anything else, and in all fairness, those came out maybe 3-4 years ago so he probably has matured a bit. It’s more like what happened with Carter in Philadelphia.
Skid Row
or, as Islanders fans, call it “the regular season.”
When I see a team go from competitive to collapse in a season, I wonder about the coach. Yeah, Leino was a mistake, but how did Stafford, Roy, etc just stop scoring all of a sudden? And what’s up with Miller? It’s just a weird situation. I hate to see a team suddenly stop playing. Like the Caps. Holy cow what’s happened there? Although I take great pleasure in the failure of Dale Hunter.
At least most of our bums are gonna walk after the season.
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Stafford has always been streaky and we’re all regretting the contract extension, but he really looked like he was putting it together last year (naturally, a contract year). The hat tricks versus the Bruins were nice. Apparently, he’s been dealing with family problems (he’s not married, so I presume with his parents/siblings).
Roy has apparently not been 100 percent but he’s spent a lot of the year looking like he doesn’t know how to play hockey.
Ruff has enjoyed a surprising amount of support considering what has happened. I think people would rather change the players than him. I think we would kill for a Moulsen or Grabner right now.
I like Miller and I think he’s got a lot of really good hockey left to play. So I’d say no. But there are many at DBTB who would take that trade.
We'll pass
Besides, his older brother is already coaching our prospects. Maybe he could join him as sort of an Uncle Rico style figure.
We'll trade brothers
Maybe Brian is a better coach, and older Rolston is a better player.
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You can have Rolston
OH YEAH!!!
by the maroon bird on Feb 21, 2012 11:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Reverse the curse...
We gave up $2M for 2 years for $5M for 1 year.
If they gave us Regehr we would take on $4M next year to get rid of 25 games of $5M.
Mule trading!
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A hockey team with money is like a mule with a spinning wheel
Nobody knows how they got it, and danged if they know how to use it!
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by mikb on Feb 21, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Over here we don't call them "bums" - we call them "passengers" or "hockey challegend" of "Brian Rolston"
depending on time and situation.
by Les Beaver on Feb 21, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Arthur Staple
@StapeNewsday
Mark Eaton, to me, just now, on whether he asked for a trade: “Absolutely not.” #Isles
No word if he had his fingers crossed.
How dare he
Ship him out for wanting to stay
by IDCWhoYouLike on Feb 21, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Did you have sex with that woman?
Absolutely not!
I would just like to say to this committee that I have personally never used steroids or human growth hormones…
The check is in the mail…
Yes sir Mr JP, your car will definitely be ready in the morning!
No way daddy, I didn’t touch your Oreos!
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Ha!
Yea, part of me imagined him thinking “But my agent did….”
by afrosupreme on Feb 21, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Second part of that conversation
Eaton: “I never asked. I just assumed I was going to be traded anyway.”
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by PGI on Feb 21, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Phew!
The NHL is abuzz with Mark Eaton’s next move! The Decision 2.0!
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by CharlieIsles on Feb 21, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
"I'm taking my talents to South Beach"
‘Because I’m old and it’s Florida and that’s the law."
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by PGI on Feb 21, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
And it shall be televised on....
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by CharlieIsles on Feb 21, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
well i appreciate Staple actually finding out for us
Could you imagine if we asked Katie Strang to get an answer for us?
The Rangers have Jeff Bloemberg in the lineup tonight, why are we not dressing Mick Vukota?!?! This team is unbelievable.
by Chris McNally on Feb 21, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Someone get her to confirm that ESPN has confirmed someone else's report.
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Islanders shopping Jurcina, Eaton
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/nyi120221.html
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LOL!
Im shopping my Heinz ketchup from my fridge.
Its not expired or anything.
Great on hamburgers.
So who wants to pay me for it?
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
I might have some relish packets or something
Do you care if they were refridgerated?
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by mikb on Feb 21, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Do you wipe the edge of the bottle?
I hate ketchup crust! That could be the difference between you getting Pathmark mustard or some grey poupon!
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And the echo chamber echoes, echoes
echoes…echoes.
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they've got no juide left...
“Eaton, Jurdina and veteran rearguard Steve Staios are all set to become unrestricted free agents this summer and could fetch a decent return through trade.”
a decent return? I love funny jokes.
Any return would be decent for those guys
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Psst
You can make images much smaller by inserting “height=200” in between “img” and “src”.
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or by
looking under a picture in the google images results, under “more sizes”
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Here we go again...
Let’s go into July without a net once again…
Isn’t this about where we were last year with Martinek, Hillen and Bruno.
Now it’s Jurcina, Eaton and Staios.
If none of them are signed this is what the roster looks like in July:
Macdonald-Hamonic
Streit-Reese
Wishart-
(Katic, Donovan, deHaan, Ness) All lefties
Johnny Oduya, here we come!
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Hillen was a net. Martinek and Bruno weren’t, and neither are Eaton, Jurcina, or Staios.
I honestly believe that whomever they would sign or promote to replace them could not be worse. I’ve not seen many, if any, guys around the league worse than that trio.
Did you mean...
Hillen was Annette?
I mean it’s possible, they were about the same size… but I don’t think Annette could skate backwards.
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by JPinVA on Feb 21, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i bet Frankie
could tell us if she could or not
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The issue and urgency is upgrading though
Not moving from one decayed, frayed safety net (Martinek, Gervais) to another. My goodness, if someone offers for Eaton or Juice or Staios, take it. Take it!
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by Dominik on Feb 21, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My goodness, if someone offers for Eaton or Juice or Staios, take it. Take it!
Abso-frickin-lutely.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
Is there any scenario where PAP can get us a shitty first round pick?
I don’t think the guy is going to sign here, sadly.
=d
by AP77 on Feb 21, 2012 11:27 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Doubtful
Highest I would guess is probably a second rounder. However, the caveat is I don’t know what the market looks like for assist machines, but it seems that most teams are trying to hold onto their picks.
by IDCWhoYouLike on Feb 21, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Not if your team is Philadelphia. lol
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
"John Tavares(a top 10 forward in the NHL)"-Neil Greenberg
Ottawa, Toronto, Winnipeg
I’d take a 2nd rounder or a defensive prospect from any of these three teams.
Logic…
You get a middle second round pick 40-55, or a kid who can help you going forward… 210+ RH defender is biggest organizational need.
The team probably plays teh Rangers in the first round of the playoffs. If you can help knock off the rangers after a President’s Trophy run you have done your job as the Islanders GM.
Parentau is eligible to be signed as a UFA on 7/1, and what would make him more valuable to the Islanders than being a part of the Rangers’ collapse?
WIN-WIN-WIN!
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TOR is over loaded with D
Aullie would even be nice after current top 3
by CanadianIsleslifer on Feb 21, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Medicore Checking forwards and #4/#5 d-men have gone for 2nd rounders+ this season, we can definitely get a 1st for PAP.
Tuomo Ruutu was wanted league wide for God’s sake. lol. We’d have to be crazy to think we can’t get a 1st for PAP.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
"John Tavares(a top 10 forward in the NHL)"-Neil Greenberg
C'mon. Can't this team get some Sudafed or something?
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Doug Weight addressed the media this morning. Jack Capuano has the flu. #isles
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
by PGI on Feb 21, 2012 11:44 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Why?
The flu did something Garth and Wang wouldn’t, it took Capuano out
by IDCWhoYouLike on Feb 21, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
WANG TOO CHEAP TO BUY NYQUIL
THEY GOTTA STAY AT CAP FLOOR AND WANG WON’T LET THEM BUY TISSUES OR ASPIRIN!
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
by PGI on Feb 21, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
LOL!
Dayquil though, please- we dont need these guys to look any less energetic than they have lately lol.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
I especially like the idea that he won't LET them.
But seriously, maybe they should give the team a week off in quarantine to recover. Nobody would notice, anyway.
It is Diduck.
Jack looked miserable even before the game started yesterday.
His eyes looked like he didn’t sleep the previous night.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Eyes?
Perhaps Jack has a case of Peter Ruttgaizer.
by GreekIsles83 on Feb 21, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Why can't he get the flu?
Bring back Sam Marchiano!
(no, really, don’t)
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if theres anyone who should be missed...
its billy jaffe.
"Redemption? Sure. But in the end, he's just another dead rat in a garbage pail behind a Chinese restaurant."
by gukid17 on Feb 21, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
uuuuuuuummmmmmmmm........wow
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Doug Weight addressed the media this morning. Jack Capuano has the flu. #isles
Why yes, I do have a man crush on Bailey and Martin, and no, I don't care what you think about it
He really has to stop practicing his french kisses with Nabby.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Feb 21, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
The Great Flu Conspiracy!
Doug Weight addressed the media this morning. Jack Capuano has the flu.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
by Dominik on Feb 21, 2012 11:44 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I love
that this tweet elicited three posts in a one minute period.
We're not crazy if we say we aren't!
by afrosupreme on Feb 21, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Unfortunately I made it 4
OH YEAH!!!
by the maroon bird on Feb 21, 2012 11:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I also love
when your signature works perfectly with the rest of your post.
by afrosupreme on Feb 21, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
POINT BLANK EXCLUSIVE: Flu Season? Sources Say Capuano May Be on the Trading Block
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
by Fabtraption on Feb 21, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
How Snow and Wang's Mistakes Are Making Everyone Sick - Literally
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
by PGI on Feb 21, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
According to sources
Garth Snow revoked the credentials of the teams’ immune system.
by GreekIsles83 on Feb 21, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
Put JT in a bubble!
OH YEAH!!!
by the maroon bird on Feb 21, 2012 11:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
like Cappy’s sinuses.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
IPB: Before coming to work for the Islanders, Jack Capuano had never been sick in his life.
Whereas Scott Gordon has never look healthier since being fired by kitten kicker Garth Snow.
That's because, when the flu comes,
Weight yells at it while Cappy just smiiles and shakes his head.
Fire Cappy! (just kidding)
Being born in New York and rooting for the Islanders, Jets, and Mets. Yeah, I know.
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by CharlieIsles on Feb 21, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Capuano has been scratched
OH YEAH!!!
by the maroon bird on Feb 21, 2012 11:46 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I hope the flu doesn't...
…accidentally spread to a couple Rangers on Friday.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 11:54 AM EST reply actions
Okposo had that for a game in November.
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by Fabtraption on Feb 21, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Several actually. I’d love to trade Weber, but I’m not sure he qualifies as “large”. The obvious would be Brayden McNabb. He’s large but fast and with good offensive upside. He hits people with fury.
As long as they are sekera or Myers
OH YEAH!!!
by the maroon bird on Feb 21, 2012 12:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What would be your first proposal?
OH YEAH!!!
by the maroon bird on Feb 21, 2012 12:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sekera and our second second round pick this year (which will be high because it’s from Calgary) for Nielsen.
You mIght start a riot for wanting Nielsen
OH YEAH!!!
by the maroon bird on Feb 21, 2012 12:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's been bandied about before
The Sabres don’t really have any true Centers besides Roy. Only people who sort of play Center. I can’t even say who the top Center is because Pominville plays wing but he ends up taking the draw anyway. Boyes and Leino were signed to play Center and neither is anymore. Ennis is playing well at Center but he’s also tiny. Gaustad is large and plays Center but he kind of sucks at everything but faceoffs although he’s been playing well lately. Nielsen’s got more upside than anyone else we have on our roster.
Well we have plenty of centers in the system for you!
(Of course don’t look too hard — most of them are lining up at wing.)
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HAHAHAHA
Sorry, I had to laugh at the “wing who takes draws” comment. That’s such a rec league thing – most teams have trouble finding anyone who is both good at faceoffs AND responsible in his own end, so you see a lot of guys take a draw and then shoot off to the far blue line, leaving their smarter yet poor-handed wing to mind the store.
Now I’m picturing Miller yelling at Pominville to change, already, because it’s been three minutes and other guys didn’t drive an hour to sit on the bench all night.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Some teams have more trouble than others finding a center who is defensively responsible…As many good things as Regier has done, he’s left the Sabres with about a zillion defensive prospects and few Center prospects. The Sabres have two decently regarded center prospects playing in juniors, but both pretty much have the same game as Derek Roy without the Memorial Cup win.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 12:14 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That was my favorite part too.
"The reader of this sentence exists only while reading me."
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
It's a prime example of a player...
…who used to have unique ability (at least with his shot), has slowed down, and can’t adjust his game because he’s relied so heavily on his shooting ability for so long. I envision him as a 14 year-old with his team mates setting him up a dozen times a game because they know he has such a cannon. He just can’t shake that mindset.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
PA Miscpnducts...
Good — was watching Nino on the top line with Moulson and Tavares.
Bad — watching the 3rd line become Reasoner, Rolston, and Pandolfo.
Worst — that 3rd line with the defensive pair of Staios and Ness.
Ness part wasn’t that bad, but the 4 other guys total age was probably more than the other 8 skaters combined!
by jonny4gets on Feb 21, 2012 12:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
"I don't know where Nabokov is in terms of his health right now"
This was Cappy’s response to a question from Stan Fischler asking whether Nabby would start in Buf. Last I heard the Medical staffs’ evaluation of a player was not a secret, especially to the Coach. Does any one else besides me on these boards wonder whether this could be trade flu? In any case contract talks could be in progress with Snow covering his behind in case Nabby doesn’t like the terms. Then at least Snow has a healthy body at the deadline in case say Philly, Detroit or Chicago are interested. Why risk injury to Nabby inorder to continue the long shot drive for the play-offs when perhaps a #2 pick or say a good D might be available?
Of course it could be
Or, it could be the flu. Which is going around.
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by Dominik on Feb 21, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That's because Islanders Flu lasts longer than the regular flu
"Scorching the back of my neck with a revolving red light!"
Either way...
…it definitely seemed that Cappy sidestepped that question. (I saw the post-game interview.)…. But the Isles have been side-stepping goaltending questions all season, so this isn’t anything new.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I heard the post-game
It just seemed like a “I’ve no new information on his sniffles” in the middle of a presser focused more on “no idea why they came out so pathetically.”
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I don't think there's a conspiracy any more.
I think Cappy knows the medical evaluations of his health, but it’s not exactly something anyone’s precise about.
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Thing is
They left Nabokov at home. He’s got the flu, they told him to stay home, so between pre-game and post-game Monday the coach isn’t going to have anything new. Unless Nabby called in afterward and said, “Best episode of Oprah EVER. By the way, how did the game go?”
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by Dominik on Feb 21, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I thought Oprah was off the air?
Nabby is more of a ‘The View’ guy than anything.
by barry_hal_oliver_24 on Feb 21, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahahahaha.
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Trade rumour du jour
The Maple Loaves are willing to take DiPietro, Rolston, Eaton, Mottau, Jurcina and Reasoner off our hands for a 7th round pick, but we need to throw in Tavares to balance it out.
Amateurs practice til they get it right. Professionals practice til they can't get it wrong.
do it
@chrisbottanhl: Source: #Isles offering Evgeni Nabokov choice of 1 or 2-year contract, hope to sign him for 2.
by ghalbart on Feb 21, 2012 12:57 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
So is Staples' chat going to be anything but Islanders PR?
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What are you looking for?
Looks like he’s giving beatwriter opinions.
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by Dominik on Feb 21, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Something with insight into their decision making.
I don’t want his opinions – he hasn’t shown himself to have opinions worth a damn.
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Before he was forced to be beatwriter he bashed the Islanders a lot
So thats probably why he sticks to facts instead of opinions. He is not an Islanders fan.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Fine, but I meant his opinions on their decision-making
Which he appears to do when he has the insight.
A major, major problem will always be lack of numerous competing reporters to push each other and collectively press the organization.
The opinions he’s lodged in today’s chat sound much more like his understanding of their decision-making rather that spouting PR.
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by Dominik on Feb 21, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe I'm dreaming given the fact that the Isles refuse to give people access
but well….i dream of an Isles beat writer equivalent to Andy McCullough – the Mets beat writer of the Newark Star Ledger. He asks questions, listens to fans who have rational questions of the team and then ASKS those questions at press conferences, etc. (His opinions are reasonable and intelligent too, but that’s not what I care about).
Staples is just either Islanders PR or opinions of someone who is basically a casual fan of hockey.
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Staples is just either Islanders PR or opinions of someone who is basically a casual fan of hockey.
Neither- he is a man who was placed (not by choice) into this position and is not an Islanders fan.
In the beginning of the season he was making the point of how he was only doing this temporarily uintil they found someone. Apparently they never bothered.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
I don't want an Islanders fan to be the beat writer!
I could care less! One of the people whose evaluations of the Islanders I consider most highly – Timo Seppa of Hockey Prospectus – is a FREAKING RANGER FAN.
Sorry, was trying not to yell.
I want someone to ask the right questions and give us information that is useful. They don’t have to be a fan for that. They have to have rational thought. Additionally, they could increase their ability to do so by realizing what are the relevant questions from fans and bringing them to the team.
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He isnt interested, garik. He isnt motivated.
He works for NEwsday, which also doesnt care and isnt motivated.
All he has to do is the minimum, which he does.
And unless that changes, thats all you are gonna get from him.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I'm not disagreeing he may not be motivated.
I’m just saying that has little to do with him being a fan. You can not be a fan and want to do a good job, because beat writer is not high on the writing totem pole and you want to move up.
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Newsday are not fans, either.
And by “fan” I am not talking about “homer”- I am talking about people who are interested in and motivated to cover the team.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Sure they are. It's a sport they have exclusive coverage on.
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It’s a sport they have exclusive coverage on.
I guess you meant team, not sport- and its technically true, but they do not care. MSG has exclusivity for the Isles, too- but how many “Beginnings” and extra shows does MSG do for the Isles? None. They do the bare minimum, just like Newsday. Its ownerships decision. And I dont see it changing much.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Let's not forget
If I remember correctly, Newsday is owned by Cablevision… I’m not saying, I’m just saying
by IDCWhoYouLike on Feb 21, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Unbearably awesome
“Josh, some anonymous internet commentators have called for your public execution due to your poor play. Thoughts?”
=d
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhh
Puts on sunglasses
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I would not miss an article!!! :)
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
"All he has to do is the minimum....."
Yes and by coincidence so is the team.
What I mean based on opinions not being worth a damn
Neil — I doubt it, because they’ll still want to sign him after the season. Trade him, and there’s little chance of bringing him back. Especially if the return is another 2nd-rounder.
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That's his undestanding of the organization's approach though, is it not?
I mean we don’t know how much is his own hockey opinion and how much comes from his conversations and probing behind the scenes, but to my eyes he’s typically given his best understanding of the Isles stance.
I would like more probing questions in public presser settings, but we know how the Isles handle those so I’m not sure how much can be gained there. Behind the scenes and offering his understanding of their thinking (e.g. on Montoya, Ness) is probably the best bet.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
What I've gotten from LHH the last few days is...
If we get killed then it’s season over, ship PAP for picks He won’t resign! And Nabby sucks! Thanks to garik16. And that Cappy isn’t an NHL coach because he isn’t switching up lines enough and that our slogan sucks and we suck and now I’m depressed.
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FTR I haven't said Nabby Sucks, just that he's average and getting worse.
It just sounds like he sucks because everyone else is so positive by comparison.
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when your other options are Rick DiPietro, Al Montoya, and an AHL prospect
Signing an average goalie for 2 years doesn’t seem all that bad. When you look at the unrestricted free agent list on gap geek Nabakov starts to look even better.
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
by ArsenalLI on Feb 21, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
So now its OK to say he's average?
Awesome. We’re making progress here- in the Nabokov thread there was apparent outrage regarding Nabokov being average lol. Perhaps someday we might get to the point where we acknowledge that any average schmo goalie doesnt accumulate over 300 wins.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Well Average goalies with a ton of games played on good offensive teams do.
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+100000
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who would you want to be our 2 goalies out of camp next year?
2 of Moe, Larry & Curly?
by Cary K on Feb 21, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s about not overpaying an average goalie who’s getting worse (Montoya), when for less you can have an average goalie who might be getting better (Montoya). That is the gist of the argument.
You just used the same name twice.
I assume in the second one you meant DiPietro? :-P
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Hah!
Don’t need to worry about DP, we got him locked up for 10 more years!
Sorry, Nabby, then Montoya; in case there is confusion.
Or if we just call up Haley
then magically Okposo and Grabner will find the back of the net!
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
by Fabtraption on Feb 21, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
True
But let’s not forget Josh Bailey in that equation.
Sure, he’s playing even worse than his rookie year, but [Bailey Excuse Brigade goes here].
=d
Arguably his linemates played better that year.
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I've said it before
Everyone not named Tavares, Parenteau, Nielsen, Moulson, and Martin has been pretty terrible on the forward lines. No excuses necessary.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
Hey, what about...
…ah, yes. It seems you’ve covered them all. All 5. Sad.
Flip a few coins and Isles will end up with a better bottom-6 next season, assuming they keep Martin. And I appreciate the efforts of Pandolfo and Nino this season. One’s just too old, one too young. Isles shouldn’t have anyone in their bottom-6 as ineffective next season. (Okay, maybe Reasoner. But with 2 better wings, or even a more experienced Nino, Reasoner should look better.)
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
So we've been shutout what, 10 times now?
in 59 games…
glad that new goal song is working for the team
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I think it's the black jerseys...
…more than anything.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
say what you will...
but we used all that BLACK magic to end the bad streak in philly with those jerseys
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by bob l on Feb 21, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The power of confusing the opponent
They must have thought the Isles were wearing odd Philly throwbacks or something, and couldn’t figure out why practice was so intense all of a sudden.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Those jerseys do look more like Philly jerseys to me than Isles jerseys.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, the Islanders lose all the time in those black jerseys
but have you noticed how big they look? They’re huge!
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I have
Ness looks like he’s 5’11" in the black jersey.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 21, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
i prefer to say
71 inches tall…
sure it’s the same,
but it makes the people bad at math think he’s bigger than he actually is…
it’s also why i answer that age old question in metric…
15+cm, well it just sounds HUGE!
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It's the day games..
Only benefits kids.
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!! Come, Get some respect a Professional team deserves!!
IDK, I feel like they used to be a lot worse in day games.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
it's like....
how much more black could they be? and the answer is none. None more black.
I’d like the Isles to have a third jersey where they really embrace the Fisherman and just have an extreme closeup of the Fisherman’s face, so in effect the entire jersey is like a big fisherman head. It’d be intimidating.
i'm sorry, but Wang rejected the uniform
he rejected the uniform? but why?
you have a grown fisherman wearing a dog collar, on all 4’s with a hockey player shoving his glove in his face!
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by bob l on Feb 21, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Smell the fishing glove lol.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 21, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
Here's Mr LeBrun with some more words of wisdom:
“Honestly, and I’ve said this before, there is no fan I feel more empathy for than those of the Islanders. You talk about loyalty — and heartbreak. I really thought they might get in the playoffs this season. I look at the young core, and I see a team that would be knocking at the playoff door. Isles GM Garth Snow told me a few weeks ago that he had no intention (at least at that point) to move Evgeni Nabokov. But I think now that it’s clear the Isles won’t make the playoffs after Monday afternoon’s horrible loss at home to the Senators — another lost chance at narrowing the gap. So, if I were Snow, I would see what he can get for Nabokov. A second-round pick is a solid return. You can’t let Nabokov walk out the door July 1 and get nothing in return. "
And the Burnside response:
‘Meh. Snark snark snark, followed by foolish things to say. LINSANITY!!!!! EPSN IS GOD!!! BRETT FAVRE FTW. I miss the Thrashers.’
by barry_hal_oliver_24 on Feb 21, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
y not
there are always PTO’s to offer people to round out the roster before the season starts
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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.
The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.
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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.
Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.
1981-82
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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.
A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.
1982-83
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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.
Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.
