Islanders 3 (EN), Jets 1: Nabokov and the Usual Suspects
A key to holding a third-period lead and hanging on for a 3-1 win: The New York Islanders penalty kill was once again both strong and fortunate, keeping the Winnipeg Jets to just two registered shots on three full powerplays.
Even strength was another story -- the Jets outshooting the Isles 36-24 (including 2-0 on a 4-on-4) to make it another night of playing careful and hoping to hang on as Evgeni Nabokov held the fort.
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[Post-game audio from Illegal Curve]
It would be 37 saves for Nabokov overall, the usual suspects Matt Moulson (powerplay goal), John Tavares (the assist) and P.A. Parenteau (game-winning goal) joining him in the familiar recipe for narrow victory.
Fortunately, all wins count the same, except in this case a regulation win almost counts more: The clean two points means the Islanders pull to within two of the Jets in the Eastern Conference standings.
First Period: The Islanders were outplayed, outshot 16-10, lucky to emerge down only 1-0. They certainly had their chances, but for every chance the created they gave up one if not two. Very slow to adjust to the Jets' frequently pinching D. The low point, though, was the Jets checking line hemming the Islanders first line in their zone and finally cashing in with a goal, Chris Thorburn knocking in a rebound while Steve Staios observed proceedings.
Second Period: Better. The early powerplay goal from Matt Moulson helped. It was a beauty of a play, with Moulson knocking down an elevated clear with his stick blade, passing it to John Tavares, who passed it right back to Moulson with the Jets defense still adjusting. Moulson smartly fired right away as the Jets tried to regroup. Ron Hainsey, who made the initial intercepted clear, may have also had Moulson's shot deflect off his skate.
Third Period: It turned even earlier, with an even strength goal by P.A. Parenteau off a very nice fake shot and pass from Milan Jurcina (!). The rest of the period was a mix of bizarre officiating decisions (both call, and non-call) while the Islanders penalty kill hung on twice.
Game Highlights
Game Notes
Brian Rolston Makes a Play: We give Rolston gruff here because ... well it depends on the complainer, actually. For me it's the slowed speed and slowed decision-making: He had one shift tonight in which he made two smart interceptions, but each time was unable to cash them in for much because a speedier opponent was on him before he made his next move. Step forward, step back. But credit where it's due: He helped create the play on Parenteau's goal, both on zone entry and in digging the puck out and getting it to Parenteau (who fed Jurcina). In the NHL scorekeeping world, that registered as a second assist.
Oh, No, Two-on-Oh! Nino Niederreiter had a subordinate rookie moment and Marty Reasoner had a goal-less struggling fourth liner moment when the two conducted a 2-on-0 without recording an official shot on goal.
To be fair, Reasoner at least hit the post with his shot glove side, but neither of them handled it in ideal fashion. Niderreiter was the initial puck handler and swept the early pass to Reasoner -- but then stopped skating hard as if to say, "Here, veteran, you take it," letting the chasing defenseman catch up to a point where his stick was a threat to break up any pass. On a 2-on-0 you at least want to give the goalie reason to *think* there might be a passing play, but Nino's near-submissiveness made it pretty clear who would take the shot, and Reasoner didn't shift the puck around to at least give Ondrej Pavelec the impression he might force it to an increasingly covered Nino.
Speed Is Ness Nice: Aaron Ness is showing us what Staios and Milan Jurcina cannot: Speed heals. Paired again with Andrew MacDonald, Ness' speed and sharp turns got the Isles out of trouble on multiple occasions and sustained plays going the other way. He is small and will have his trouble during big physical battles -- and we don't even know how polished his defensive instincts are yet -- but his mobility helps prevent fires before they can happen.
Ness was again the third-most used defenseman, logging 18:21 essentially all at even strength again. It's way too early to rush to interpretation, but I think we might know where this is heading. Pairing with MacDonald and logging those minutes isn't quite sheltering; it just might be trust.
Jack Capuano on Ness, via the Illegal Curve post-game audio links (also have Nabokov, MacDonald, Parenteau interviews) above:
He’s a quick — an elusive kind of guy, but tonight his gap was really good. He took away time and space. He held the blueline against a lot of their good players, his stick was really active, I was really impressed."
From those audio links, Nabokov on the team being patient and poised:
"It's always like this, once you get to February and March, that's what you're going to get. It's almost playoff games. You have to realize the situation, realize the pressure, who you're playing against, all those little things."
Line Matching: Tonight, there was no real matching of D pairs like Ness-AMac against specific lines, but the Frans Nielsen line and the Bryan Little line faced each other more often than not. John Tavares (or is it John Tenacity?) created some chances on his own, but his line was better contained by the Thorburn line than you'd like. I think his wingers were more to blame for that than he was.
Pandolfo Gets Islanders Face: NHL Network host on Jay Pandolfo's self-inflicted faceplant into the post/crossbar joint: "How long has Jay Pandolfo been in the NHL? He's gotta know there's a net there!" Fortunately Pandolfo was okay.
Announcing High: Always fun to have Jiggs McDonald back in the booth. And Patrick Flatley, doing the sideline again for this one, has added a lot to every Islanders broadcast he's done this year.
Stephen Waka-Waka Walkom* Does It Again: After a nice shift of sustained pressure in the Islanders zone in which Nik Antropov was a Godzilla along the boards swatting Andrew MacDonald away like some futile police helicopter, he finishes the sequence by plastering P.A. Parenteau into the glass from behind after Parenteau cleared the puck out of the zone.
The call(s)? Two minutes on Antropov for "interference" and two minutes on Parenteau for "diving" or "embellishing" as they announced it over the P.A. Incompetence like that is undeserving of a paycheck, even from the NHL.
*Credit to reader jtdolphins for that moniker, I believe
Later, in the third, up 2-1: A well executed 3-on-2 by the Nielsen line is disrupted when Frans Nielsen (without the puck) is hurled into the net by Mark Stuart. No interference. Not a minute afterward, Brian Rolston is called for a trip at the blueline in which Alex Burmistrov clearly ... oh, what's the word ... embellished? This is the NHL. I have no idea what the officials are seeing at any given moment. We're clearly returning to the world where refs let random things go and randomly insert themselves to fill their quota.
Almost Iced: John Tavares led an even-man rush down the right wing and was afforded space to shoot instead of pass. He hit the post. Four more minutes awaited.
Almost Iced II: With two minutes left, the first line was again hemmed in, with Evgeni Nabokov having to make a couple of big saves and accept the fortune of some shots going wide. Tavares just about willed the puck out of the zone and overpowered big Dustin Byfuglien to singlehandedly create a scoring chance. Save, Pavelec.
Finally Iced: Beautiful, beautiful play by Parenteau to chase down a soft dump with the Jets goalie pulled. He hit the post from a bad angle but recovered the rebound behind the net, waited patiently as the Jets played zone, and sweetly fed Matt Martin, who did well to one-time it into the empty net from the low circle.
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So again, with the win the Isles are back in 11th and two points out of 10th for the first time in I-don't-wanna-look-it-up. Not quite an impressive win, but a win in which they took what they got in a tough place to play.
St. Louis will be even tougher. (Though this is till the NHL: The Blues lost in "lowly" Columbus 201 tonight.)
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I have to say, that was desperation hockey and possibly the first time I have seen that kind of intensity all season long. This is what it is to play and win meaningful games.
We might be 6 out currently, but man was that big and fun.
What a difference a year makes for Ness
Last year he was an undersized kid playing for struggling Minnesota team. There were some reports that he was the best player on the team, but he seemed to be yet another Isles 2nd round bust. Now it seems like he might be able to catch on ala Hamonic last year.
22 players from the 2008 draft have played over 100 games, 4 of them were drafted by the Islanders (Bailey, Spurgeon, Hamonic and Martin)
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That draft is going to be very very special before it's all over.
How do Islander fans spell hope?
T-A-V-A-R-E-S
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 14, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
I was talking with my Gopher buddy about him
And apart from how I fear him getting clobbered by some NHL headhunter, I think his speed and agility is even more impressive on the smaller NHL rinks instead of the other way around. On the Olympic-sized sheets (like Minnesota) he was more out at sea, relatively speaking.
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Ness has Impressed
That is for sure, his mobility up and down the ice is a haven compared to what we have seen. He skates very fluidly and like you said can you his speed to prevent the fires before they occur. He does have some trouble down low behind the net, but it is nothing very worrisome. I see a smart player, who makes very very crisp passes that I am sure the forward core are salivating over. He does have a shot, it just needs to make it on net. For a 21 year old, he is doing very well.
He seems a quick study
Florida exploited him on a crossing pattern for a goal in the last game. In this one, he came back to fill space after MacDonald went behind the net and pursued the puck carrier across to the far wall. Ness read this play a split-step quicker than the one against Florida, and altered the pass as it came through – didn’t pick it off, but threw off the timing so that what might have been a similar quick redirect wound up harmlessly in the opposite corner.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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eh college boy
as he is affectionately know.
But really, I noted that same play as well and thought, there you go buddy. Good job this time.
Those are the fun little things in this game
Watching them pick that stuff up from game to game.
I added post-game audio from Illegal Curve in the game data links above, but Capuano said: “He’s a quick — an elusive kind of guy, but tonight his gap was really good. He took away time and space. He held the blueline against a lot of their good players, his stick was really active, I was really impressed.”
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My Prairie Dog pal says people that talk to Gophers are nuts.
He’d know. He is a prairie dog after all. They know everything. Like, “who’s next on the list” and why the lady at the library always looks at me suspiciously when I go in there, and where to store the bodies. Prairie Dogs are smart like that.
If Ness keeps playing like this, what are the odds he's starting on the bottom pair next year?
Or gonna be wisharted into ahl-callup eternity! lol. Ness could fill that missing spot in our hearts that we had for Hillen.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
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I'll say this much
I don’t remember them praising a rookie so much so soon since Hamonic. (Not comparing him to Hamonic, just saying they’re clearly impressed, as they were in September.)
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very true
Cappy seems to have a mini man crush on Ness. Perhaps, it is because he is the first call up to actually compete well consistently, easily coached as mentioned, learns quickly and the topper that he is not Staios, Eaton, Mottau, or Jurcina. (Who I only give credit to for that PA goal, otherwise he was certainly questionable last night.
True, but...
…Ullstrom didn’t look bad either. If Isles were average-to-above at defense and severely lacking at forward (instead of the other way around), I think Ullstrom would be getting more attention than Ness.
But last night Ness looked very good. A couple times his size was a detriment, but he is mobile and smart. He’s jumping up in the play a little more now. Only a matter of time until one of his shots finds the back of the net…. He looked great on the 4-on-4s last night.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 15, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn't Ness almost on the team out of training camp last year?
The team clearly seems high on him, more so than with Wishart (it seems…)
I do seem to remember that de Haan was the "last cut" each of his first couple times with Isles.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 15, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
More Ness
Ness was again the third-most used defenseman, logging 18:21 essentially all at even strength again. It’s way too early to rush to interpretation, but I think we might know where this is heading. Pairing with MacDonald and logging those minutes isn’t quite sheltering; it just might be trust.
You wonder if that pairing will stick when Hamonic comes back. Any chance they do that, and put Hamonic with Streit?
Sorry to self-reply
Just realized with Wishart up, I’d be really excited with:
Hamonic/Wishart
AMac/Ness
Streit/Staios-Eaton-Whoever
by afrosupreme on Feb 15, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Still injured?
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by edavidmorris on Feb 15, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Still injured
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Was thinking that also
I like AMac-Ness and thought Streit-Hamonic would be a great 1st pair.
Put Jurcina-Wishart on the 3rd and you’ve got a decent D-corp.
anybody think
Ness is trade bait ?
by WRANGLERICK on Feb 14, 2012 11:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I can't imagine how or why, honestly
What team would want to make a call on him right now? He’s still a profile risk to everyone else, and an investment for the Isles.
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by Dominik on Feb 14, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
true, hes all
Upside for us….I’m wondering if snow has something up his sleeve
by WRANGLERICK on Feb 14, 2012 11:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He is in the position of seller (if he wants) with few sellers out there
If a buyer gets desperate, Snow will probably be ready.
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If he keeps up this "Ness-sanity", he will give Garth some decisions to make
You called up Wishart to see what he can do, right? You won’t send him back down and expose him to waivers without giving hime a chance, I assume? But now who will he replace in the lineup?
The Hammer will be back soon. What happens then?
Will Staios and/or Eaton be waived or traded? Then there’s Reese?
Maybe Ness gets sent back down eventually, but worst case he would come into camp next year with the #5 or #6 D position his to lose.
Suddenly the D is a little crowded. Interesting decisions.
nope, not at this point.
lol are you putting together a package for nash?
You should've seen her face. It was the exact same look my father gave me when I told him I wanted to be a ventriloquist.
Nash
is going to our favorite rival.
by WRANGLERICK on Feb 14, 2012 11:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not sure of that, but ya never know.
if Ryan Smith went for 2 1st round prospects and a 1st rounder, than I don’t know what the market rate is for Nash. 2012 1st and a 2013 1st with a 1st round prospect?
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Market for Nash
Two top-six like forwards, an NHL-ready prospect and a first round pick at least.
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by edavidmorris on Feb 14, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
Nash is a franchise player
That’s what Columbus wants. It’s up to other teams to decide whether it’s worth it or not. Also Nash is a great player, he’s been stuck in Columbus with no help for a while now, don’t tell me he’s not “that good.”
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by edavidmorris on Feb 15, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know if I would consider Nash one of the top 30 players in the league.
That means he would have to be at least in the top 20 forwards. I can think of 6 Atlantic forwards I would rather have: Tavares, Parise, Malkin, Neal, Gaborik, Giroux. Probably Callahan too, for his two-way play.
Nash is good, but franchise player may be stretching it.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 15, 2012 1:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Neal is overrated but I definitely agree with you that I don't believe Nash is a top 30 player.
Overrated James Neal: with his 4min/gm of PP time, 63.8% o-zone starts(8th in the NHL among 50gms played forwards), and Neal playing sheltered 3rd line competition. He’s not even shooting his career high shooting % and he’s still on a 42goal pace! lol. Talk about overrated.
I’d take Nash over Neal, but think of all the better forwards in the Neal. Unarguably you gotta throw Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Thornton, Malkin, Toews, Giroux, Stamkos, Kesler, Getzlaf, Callahan(who is turning into a 2-way animal), Parise, M.Richards, Perry, Jeff Carter(before injuries?), and E.Staal. And I’m sure I forgot someone. I might even add Pavelski as an under the radar guy. More then solid checking center with a great all around game and offensive scoring/acumen.
And he “might” be considered a franchise player. Depends how heavily you weigh goals scored, because he’s great at it(top 20 every year), but doesn’t bring a lot else to the table.Still not close to worth his contract though.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
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That's the rumor of what Columbus is asking though.
Pretty much the rumor is the Blue Jackets want: a 1st round pick, a young proven top 6 forward(or top 4 d-man), and a couple nhl ready prospects.
Of course it’s an overpayment. Especially when you consider Nash is overpaid/paid as a top 5 NHL player(for now) till he’s 34/35yrs old, 28yrs old next season, and is pretty much just a giant 30-35/yr goalscorer. I think his best comparison would be kovalchuck, and Kovy is a better offensive player then him. Nash probably isn’t worth more than $6mil/yr imo, and he’s getting paid into his mid-30’s and costs too much to acquire. He’s a no go from every angle for me.
Plus, we don’t need forward help for the future, we need defensive help.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
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by OzzyFan on Feb 15, 2012 1:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Our Rick would have to go their way in the deal for it to make sense.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 15, 2012 1:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Can we trade OUR Rick for THEIR Rick?
Did’nt think so!
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by Russel Ginart on Feb 15, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Can you stop describing ithe Ryan Smyth trade that way?
At the time of the trade, Nilsson and O’Meara were already major disappointments.
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by garik16 on Feb 15, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Not Accurate
It’s easy to say now that Nilsson and O’Marra were busts. But that was not yet true in 2007 when the deal was made, especially wth respect to Nilsson. Obviously Edmonton thought they were good prospects.
Besides, there’s precedent from just last year as to the haul for a UFA veteran going to a Cup contender. Kaberle was traded to Boston for prospect Joe Colborne (16th overall, 2008), Bruins 1st round choice in the 2011 NHL Entry Draft, and a 2nd round draft choice in 2012 (conditional upon the Bruins reaching the Finals, which they did).
by rmblifn on Feb 15, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't say busts and I wouldn't say high potential players either.
At the time of the trade, I thought O’marra was gonna be a 3rd line forward and Nilsson was gonna be a playmaking middle 6 center. I’d think of it comparitively as trading a mid 1st rounder + Bailey(a year after his draft say) + Cizikas(or Ullstrom) for renting Smyth. No matter how those forward prospects turned out, that wasn’t the right move to make at all for a rental, especially when we were a projected borderline/non-true-contender team that year and were mostly “barren” of forward talent in the system(non-nhl). It wasn’t the time for renting a hi-cost player(yes, I consider a 1st rounder + a middle 6 prospect + a 3rd line prospect a high-cost rental). It was a stupid mediocre to moderate risk-low to medicore reward move. Not to play what if’s, but at the time of the trade someone told me that Nilsson was gonna be a 50pts playmaking center and that 1st round draft pick was gonna turn into a top 4 d-man I would have believed them or believed that there was a good chance of that happening.
Either way, none of this has to do with Nash. Nash is signed for 6yrs more and Smyth was a rental.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
"John Tavares(a top 10 forward in the NHL)"-Neil Greenberg
.....as has been said previously, here and elsewhere, I think Smyth,
who to these eyes doesn’t look all that much different from a certain Carolina coach with the benefit of perspective, was at heart a feeble attempt on the part of Wang and Snow to belie the stubborn perception that this team couldn’t effectively attract free agents – nothing more, nothing less than a rental and, maybe, that’s all he was ever gonna be…..at the time, I too drank the Smyth Kool-Aid but, in retrospect, it seems a weird, un-Islanders-like (well, at least pre-Millbury, anyhow) stunt….did he enable us to get Tavares? I suppose one could connect the draft dots and rationalize in that way; not a DiPietro or Yashin-caliber gamble by ANY means …..
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- oh, and no offense to Rick Nash, but he's just not worth what Columbus is asking;
I’d take either PAP or MattyMo over him in terms of scoring, and I suspect Cizikas, almost certainly up next year, will be his equivalent defensively with a year at the Bridge….
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by ogam5 on Feb 15, 2012 5:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
.....we need to be crafty, not completely resigned like last summer, as able.....
…..TORREY-crafty:)
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DP and Yashin things were somewhat disasters from the start(although Yashin could play hockey at a high-level if we kept him).
I don’t think the Smyth deal was a complete disaster, just a “mediocre to moderate risk-low to medicore reward move”. Like I said, we were a borderline playoff team, not a real cup contender so why trade for the expiring rental 30-40goal/70-80pts player at that time? It was just weird, especially when our juniors/minors players in the system were mostly barren with talent. And Smyth loved Edmonton and made it known all the time, an extension was highly unlikely, especially with the team dismantling snow/wang did.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
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They were huge disappointments even then.
They never should have been picked when they were, and this organization knew it within the next year or two. Fortunately, the rest of the NHL didnt know it yet… at least, not Edmonton.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 15, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Nillson and O'Mara were drafted by MM
Nuff said right there. I thought it was a good trade then and still do now.
by JPinNYC on Feb 15, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
MM recalled
NO, not enough said – let’s remember that he picked Nillson instead of Parise in the first place. MM was the worst thing that ever happened to the Isles – he was as bad as Bill Torrey was good – he was the anti-Torrey
by Rumpelstiltskin on Feb 15, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
That's My Point - Other Teams Didn't Know They Were Busts When the Trade Was Made
So, IMHO, it’s unfair to characterize the trade as “two busts” with a 1st Round pick for Smyth, which was being suggested up top. The fact that the Islanders really did know the talent level of their own players is to their credit. That is an underappreciated ability of good management.
i still don't buy it...
they’d have to ship out dubinsky, wolski, and picks. i’m sure the jackets won’t want wolski and i don’t see sather taking on another massive contract and jeopardizing his cap for next year…then again…
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by gukid17 on Feb 14, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, I can see the cap thing just fine from here
Slats can bury a contract in Connecticut if he must, or else work whatever voodoo he has over other teams to get them to take on his cap-busting albatrosses (Gomez, Higgins). What I can’t see is his being so eager to give up Dubinsky plus other assets, and upset the rhythm of a team firing on all cylinders. But putting the marquee name on Broadway? I can see that, costs be damned.
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good point...
the rangers are clicking on all sides. no need to mess w the chemistry and they really don’t have any noticeable flaws. they’d be smart to go into the playoffs as they are.
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dubie and
A load of prospects/picks. Sather is defintily thinking splash. He wants to keep his job.
by WRANGLERICK on Feb 15, 2012 12:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
What are you gonna get for him?
At a time when we’re crying out for D help, why would we trade an interesting piece like Ness for the scraps he’s likely to bring?
He could easily turn into something special and we’d be looking at a third rounder trying to develop three years from now.
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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 15, 2012 8:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
big win...
not gonna go into plus/minus. Dom pretty much summed everything up…
great to see an important win on the road against a team who does better at home and is also fighting for the 8th. still somewhat skeptical, but healthy optimism is good for this team.
i like the jets style of play and am looking forward to their progression for years to come. they’re definitely headed in a good direction. however, the fans could’ve shown a little more respect for JT. i find it annoying to hear the boos every time he touched the puck, but i’m not putting the winnipeg fans on my sh*t list. i’m very happy for them to get their franchise back.
rolston. sucks.
isles PK. great job.
nabby. money.
"Redemption? Sure. But in the end, he's just another dead rat in a garbage pail behind a Chinese restaurant."
Apparently they pick a player to boo every game
It’s … something they do.
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oh...and...
officiating continues to leave us all unanimously befuddled.
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Walkom has been screwing us since the early '90's
He has systematically called games with an anti-Islander bias. There is no doubt in my mind he has it out for us. I don’t feel that way about any other ref and I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I hope he goes back to retirement/desk job….yesterday.
Yes, MR Ref #24 must go!
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by Russel Ginart on Feb 15, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
Upcoming post....
I’ve been working on a spreadsheet of referees and linesmen for each game.
Which had better face-off %, PP for and against.
But work keeps getting in the way.
by jonny4gets on Feb 16, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds interesting
Looking forward to it
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 16, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Some of that third period was really odd
Frans should have drawn a PP for certain. Funny thing is, the faceoff was in the zone, so Stephen “Colie’s Kid is My Fave Player” Walkom knew that Stuart caused Frans to go flying into the cage, causing the stoppage. So how is that not interference or tripping? If Fransie had been sent in Pavelec, would Walkom have given HIM the two minute goalie interference? Makes no sense. Though I have to say that the Parenteau xcheck, while ticky-tack, was actually a penalty.
Some strong plays from the traditional (Tavares, Parenteau) and non-traditional sources (Good Juice was in action tonight). One thing I liked a lot (and it will sound strange because the Isles had a LOT of shots against this game) was that the defense and backchecking forwards broke up more than a few passes and crossing plays that would have resulted in dangerous chances. The only missing element is that those plays seldom turned into breakouts, the Peg kept possession. So the support on those defensive plays has to improve a bit.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Feb 14, 2012 11:45 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
The two that got me:
1) I could have sworn I heard a “chink” when JT cleared the puck over the glass.
2) After PAP’s penalty was over, an Islander going towards the boards (near side defensive zone) was hit in the face with a careless Jets stick. There are 4 officials on the ice, and none of them had to worry about offsides or icing at that particular moment. How do they all miss that?
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 15, 2012 1:46 AM EST up reply actions
That's what happens when half your roster is invisible
Still feels weird cheering for Nabokov
by ilopan on Feb 15, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Real good road win with a bit of "playoff" intensity
+ Nabby has been brilliant
+ P.A., P.A., P.A.
+ Ness looking like he belongs
- Nino and Marty 2 on 0 F-up
- Goal post jumping in front of Pandolfo – is this considered Islander Face also?
+ Did I mention P.A.
- What the F are these Ref’s looking at?
Now go steal 2 points from the Blues
that 2 on 0...
was infuriating…pavelec was too far to the left to move across for the stop. that should’ve been a nino goal, reasoner assist.
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That's what I thought
should have been an easy tap in for Nino.
Nino’s play has really picked up lately, would love to see what he could do on a line with Bailey and Martin.
Frustrating is the word
Nino just dished it along and glided along with his stick down. He didn’t split wide and force Pavelec to worry at all about him. And there was a play in the third where Reasoner set him up superbly, but Pavelec made a good save. I mean, it’s a fourth line, but oy.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Feb 15, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I remember that also
the puck slid just wide after Nino tried to slam it in.
He’s been generating some chances lately and with better linemate I think his offense will start to emerge.
You can see he’s starting to “get it”.
His defensive responsibilities have been improving alot also, he always seems to be backchecking and in the right spots also.
Not like earlier in the season when he had some blown assignments that led to goals against.
definitely in line for a line promotion.
His 4th line duties will go a long way in developing as an overall player that you can put into defensive situations. He will get his goals whether its a but load in the AHL next year or moving forward on the big club.
That 2-0 showed that Nino
may belong in the AHL next year. He’s supposed to be a scorer but he passed. That tells me that he has absolutely zero confidence. He needs to build that if he’s going to succeed. We shouldn’t cpount on him for at least the first half of next season. I just hope they don’t bring in some geritol pumping old guy to hold a 4th line space.
by martylnd on Feb 15, 2012 6:28 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That was the thought that instantly jumped into my mind when I saw the highlight
Not necessarily that he belongs in the “A”, but that Nino should be thinking on that play that “we’re going to pass this thing back and forth for the next two or three seconds and one of us (better be me) is going to bang it into an open cage.” Instead, he gave it to Reasoner and I don’t even think he tried to get into position for a rebound.
That tells me he’s not thinking like a goal scorer any more. That causes me concern.
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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 15, 2012 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
One hopes that Capuano is gonna show him some tape
and tell him what he needs to do there and not show so much deference to the older players
Still feels weird cheering for Nabokov
by ilopan on Feb 15, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Especially when it is Reasoner.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 15, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Nino's Pass was Okay, Reasoner Should Have Passed It Back
That’s the best way to score on a 2-0, get the goalie to move.
Yup- and Im sure looking at tape Nino will see that. He is still learning.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 15, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Of course he has no confidence...
He is stuck playing on the 4th line, averaging 9 minutes a game. How can you get a good look at the kid and build his confidence with those ice time numbers? He should be playing in Rolston’s place at least, no doubt about it in my mind.
I agree
In junior, where the goalies aren’t exactly top notch all the time, that same play probably results in a goal. In the pros, who get Marty Reasoner noodle-arming a shot in Pavelic’s glove and a giant face palm.
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I think it's an issue of underestimating NHL speed
That glide-with-the-stick-down probably does get you a lot of goals down in the lower levels.
Still feels weird cheering for Nabokov
That 2-0 showed that Nino may belong in the AHL
Same goes for that other guy.
Martylnd, I think I flagged you my mistake. Sorry.
by vince from NJ on Feb 15, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
It only looks like a flag when you first do it- then you refresh and it turns into a "rec".
If it was really a flag you would have had another page pop up where youd describe the infraction.
In other words, there really is no flagging by mistake around here- so dont worry about that happening. :)
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 15, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
He passed the puck to Reasoner...
…as if he didn’t know whether Reasoner was a righty or lefty shot.
Even a Steve-Webb type of player would have (at worst) taken the puck a little wider, faked a pass, and then tried to stuff it into the goal.
I’m betting they don’t work on two-on-nones too often in practice.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 15, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
I’m betting they don’t work on two-on-nones too often in practice.
LOL!
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 15, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
I've always wanted to work on a 2 on 1, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more!
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Feb 15, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL- sorry if it winds up a 1 on 0, but hey… a lot of games end in a shootout- amirite???
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 15, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
ROFL
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Good game
Did they have any GRITZ in that game? I’ll have to watch the DVR again. Bunch of ninnies.
Another great game from Nabby. The defense looked very good, though I can’t imagine how there isn’t enough evidence to sit Staios; he was the exception.
Most disappointing thing about the Nino/Reasoner clusterf*ck? Nino was my FIG and I picked an early 2nd period time. Bust.
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by IslesFanInNJ on Feb 14, 2012 11:49 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
One thing I love about JT's game
His drive to get the puck, he’s so good at bodying people off the puck and lifting their stick now. Also I love PAP, sign him ASAP, 4 years $14.5 million. Also, Rolston didn’t play the WORST hockey tonight, but we need a scorer-type player on Bailey’s line.
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OT @ Dom
That facebook kid “matthew daniel” is a friend of mine from high school. Good kid but about a month ago I had to promise myself to never, ever talk to him about hockey again.
I’m not the smartest fan, but even I can see he likes to bitch about everything and try and force people to defend themselves. He told me that our goalie situation was better than the Rangers….
I hate the Rags as much as the next guy but I would kill for Lundqvist.
Thanks
Advice taken. I was done with him after he said Streit was just another MAB.
I hate the Rags as much as the next guy but I would kill for Lundqvist.
And this is true
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Where are the "The Isles Need a Real Coach People"?
Not quite an impressive win, but a win in which they took what they got in a tough place to play.
That’s what is usually said about good teams. This group is learning and we get to see the results. So proud of their effort.
Coach Capuano deserves some credit here. Thse guys have played their rear ends off for him since the first night he showed up.
Also: A Nod to the Vets tonight. Reasoner, Pandolpho to name a few….they sacraficed tonight. Tis hwen the vets can really help…but I will admit that Rolston does look slow!!! YIKES.
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I was actually impressed with Staois
Not necessarily for his play but mostly because he was very emotional. Anyone see him break his stick on the post?
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by edavidmorris on Feb 15, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
The Vets....Staios too...YES
We have a long way to go….but this totally doable Now.
Only 6 pts out with 25 games in hand. They are totally in it now
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To really be in it...
they need to make this win stick by winning a few in a row.
Can’t win, lose ,win, lose.
That won’t get it done.
Its those Eastern Conferance games
Those are the BIGGIES!!
I heard earlier on twitter…the Isles play 10 or so games just against Atlantic Div. Teams the rest iof the way…..
This is Good and Bad. Its BAD b/c those teams are really good. But its GOOD b/c a lot of those teams don’t have nearly as much to play for down the stretch and many of them (i.e. Philly)…Have their own Question Marks as we move forward.
THERE ARE 25 GAMES STILL TO PLAY GUYS
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These next 4 games are the huge ones..
Win against St.Louis, Carolina, Ottawa and Buffalo and that sets you up to succeed against the Rangers and the other division games.
St. Louis is the toughest of these but they just lost to Columbus at home. We’re a bit of an unknown quantity to them and if we can play a tough road game thursday with Nabby in net, it’s a winnable game. Isles seem to do well against the west also.
That game against the Rangers is going to be big
If we go in looking like were going to make a playoff push expect the Coliseum to be rowdy. The game is on a Friday night as it is.
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
Thats why these games are so important
get a head of steam up with a 4-5 game streak and this teams confidence is going to rise as well and make those March games interesting.
Should be good for the team in any case to play in this kind of atmosphere
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If we can get 7 of next 8 points
We’re in it. But we need those points.
I saw that
It came when his backhand clear attempt would up feeding the point perfectly to keep the Jets in the Isles’ end for another fifty seconds. I’m happy he cares, but I’d be happier if he just cleared the puck and saved his lumber.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Feb 15, 2012 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The whole team in general had a hard time clearing the zone tonight
That problem is epidemic for Rolston, I’ve never seen one player have so many weak clearing attempts.
Tonight though the whole team had that problem and it resulted in extended zone time for the Jets, lucky it didn’t cost the game.
Yes I noticed that
It seemed like a lot of overskating on the breakout; there were also times the Isles couldn’t get the puck to settle at neutral ice and the Jets came right back (going offsides a few times).
Passion is nice, I’d like to see it go into playing good hockey, rather than just being mad at playing bad hockey. Anyone can do that.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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too many passes right into the slot
Does the Islanders breakout begin by passing the puck in front of their own net? Too often the puck is being moved up the middle of the ice. It looks different when JT and Moulson are along the boards and the puck almost always gets past the opposing defenders.
I have no doubt in my mind that Pandolfo and Staios hustle their asses off and give it their all.
Rolston, not so much. That’s part of the giant list that pisses me off about him. And on giant reason tonight would be him attempting a slapshot from the blueline which the Jets easily stole and created an odd man rush off of. I was ready to hang him if they scored off that incredibly stupid and selfish play by him.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
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Rolston is a giveaway machine
He intercepts the puck, gets everyone moving into the offensive zone and then instead of chipping it in deep decides to turn for a big windup. Result, stripped of the puck and an odd man rush the other way. That was just the most glarring example last night.
by Hockey1919 on Feb 15, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"he had a great dump in"
-Flats
You should've seen her face. It was the exact same look my father gave me when I told him I wanted to be a ventriloquist.
by mikefromVA on Feb 15, 2012 7:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Some interesting stuff at today's committee mtg re Hub
Fan post here:
http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2012/2/15/2799250/newsday-mangano-gives-wang-time-on-nassau-hub-plan
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Feb 15, 2012 12:17 AM EST reply actions
Whats does an Isles Playoff Birth do in this regard?:
U think Islanders Rangers helped Charles Wang a Little?
I think So
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Quite an exciting game...
one that makes you think:
1. How can they not have extended PAP already?
2. In two years JT will be the best player in the NHL.
3. Nabokov, Chicago… you say no no no, and the price goes up up up. We can keep him for a run, but a first rounder or a young defender sounds even better.
4.
We give Rolston gruff here because … well it depends on the complainer
For me it’s simple. I look at one time in the last 30 games he’s contributed to a goal, I look at the play of Bailey, I look at the play of Martin… where would this team be without Brian Rolston? take out Rolston from game one, and replace him with David Ullstrom, put PAP on their RW and this team has 5 more wins right now. There is no question in my mind.
5. Is it just me, or is there a directive to get certain teams into the playoffs. Toronto, Montreal and Winnipeg. Can you imagine if all three miss this year… A nation weeps.
6. Did we just win an NHL hockey game with a defense that consisted of Mark Eaton, steve Staios, Milan Jurcina and Aaron “WHO” Ness? You can add Andrew Macdonald to that list for non-Islander fans.
7. Does anybody miss Rick “face of the franchise” Dipietro… because, he’s probably coming back this season… you know it’s gotta happen, right?
8. Hey Ty, did you make any friends in the press box?
9. Jay Pandolfo…for 82 games I’d still rather have Rhett, Haley or Casey (in the future), but he really has not disappointed at all. The JPinUniondale is okay.
10. St. Louis just dropped one… Let’s kick ‘em while they’re down!
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Its a Stupid Directive if so
5. Is it just me, or is there a directive to get certain teams into the playoffs. Toronto, Montreal and Winnipeg. Can you imagine if all three miss this year… A nation weeps.
Islanders/Rangers in the first round would help the NHL…,NO?
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Sadly no.
Nobody north of the border has cared about the islanders, or that rivalry for many years. The Isles aren’t on TV anymore because NOBODY cares about them. They need to change that first. unfortunately people cared about them last year, in an Oakland Raider’s kind of way… but except for JT… this team has no personality. Do you think people are going to tune in to see Brian Rolston (sorry, but it’s true), Jay Pandolfo (it’s sadder that that is true) or Marty Reasoner.
In the East people want to see Rangers v Flyers, Bruins, Syd or Ovie… and they want THEIR TEAMS to be in it. TOR, MON and WIN.
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I know
But from a TV and Buzz Stanpoint….The League maybe would want Isles/Rags No?
Maybe Not….
Oh By the way…I also loved your second note:
2. In two years JT will be the best player in the NHL
If you were to bcall a NY radio sports station right now and make that comment they would hang up on you b/c you aren’t talking about Baseball or basketball…..
But thje truth of the matter is that in 2 years John Tavares might be the best overall athlete in NY (except maybe ELI?)
I’m being serious. John Tavers is pissyourpants ridiculous!!!
He has no flaws….NONE
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LOL
I know and you will ahve to beg Mike Francesa to talk aboiut Hockey Tomorrow.
Francesa will make the excuse that BBall is more popular and noone wnat to talk about hockey and he’ll quote Advertising data and postgame ratings and all of that…..
But really…these show hosts need to step up and start telling about these stories.
How many times do u think Lundqvist gets mentioned on Francesa’s show tomorrow
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A lot of us had the good fortune...
to see the dynasty era Islanders and the greatest goal scorer, and maybe the best two-way defenseman to ever play the game. But when I watch tavares when he is within 10 feet of the puck, regardless of who has possession, he’s like a magician. He wills the puck into his possession… lifts sticks, uses his balance and leverage, out strengths players of all sizes and skillsets… and when he gets the puck, he does something with it. That alone puts him in the top five for me…but NOBODY has that skillset… and when he starts doing more productive things with the puck after he gets it… There will be no looking back. We are watching the birth of a HOFer, and I can’t help but think, somebody of Michael Jordan proportions.
They really need to protect him… and keep him mentally stable.
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I Know
Seriously….in 2 years he’s gonna be the best Athlete in the Tri-State Area.
Who will have to compete with? Eli is the only guy I can think of.
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No it's going to be someone named "Lin"
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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 15, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
teams rebuilding create their own personality
A hard fought Battle with the Rangers would be a great step.
7. Does anybody miss Rick "face of the franchise" Dipietro… because, he’s probably coming back this season… you know it’s gotta happen, right?
Get behind me Satan!
by afrosupreme on Feb 15, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In the playoff hunt
I’ll say it now. We will be in it til the end. Not saying we’re getting in, but there will be interesting games in March, and that’s a huge victory for this team. And for me. Part of my confidence comes from the schedule. The Isles have an insane last 2 weeks…5 games in last 8 days and 9 games in last 15. If they manage to stay within 5-6 points headed into the last two weeks, those games will matter…there will be a real…if unlikely…ability to make up those points during the frantic finish. The key is for the Isles to at least manage to tread water during the next 15 games, including 2 against the Rags and 3 against the Devils. Just 15-16 pts during that Span might do it. Again, my formula is not a guaranteed spot, just guaranteed playoff-type games in late March. I believe that would Br the best thing for the future of this team, to play in those kinds of games this year, even if we don’t make it. That’s why we keep Nabby.
by BobSulli on Feb 15, 2012 12:27 AM EST via mobile reply actions
That end of the season schedule is brutal
Still going by math and number of teams and the run they’ve been on (with OT/SO help) just to get to this point, I’m not holding my breath. But I’ll enjoy the ride. My preseason goal for them was to be in the bubble conversation at this time of year. They’re getting there.
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I made this point the other day.
february is a soft month that can make April possible in March. But March will crush them if they don’t change things. They can’t survive on 1 EV goal every night. They need to use the last 25 to start answering questions for next year… and they can do it without “giving up” on this year… they have opportunities to IMPROVE and move forward.
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The speak of someone who is paying attention.
Well said JP.
Moreso than ever….this is evaluation time. We need to understand who we are.
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Just looked at the March schedule
How in the hell did the schedule makers give us 3 games in a row against the Devils???
Don’t think I’ve ever seen that before.
by SJG in NJ on Feb 15, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's because with all the excitement...
of the playoff races, sometimes it’s hard to sleep at night. recording those games will be like THE RAIN FOREST for non-Islander or Devil fans.
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by JPinVA on Feb 15, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
oh thanks
Please explain why the team would give up on the season before March 1 – 6 points out of a playoff spot?
And the purpose of the last 25 games of this seaosn 6 points out of the playoffs is to answer questions for next year? What questions about next year need to be answered in the last 25 games? Are you suggesting the rebuild needs to be restarted if they lose say 15 of the last 25?
Thank you for you insightful reply.
Stop being so 'right' and all that
You have to think the Isles are due for an untimely 4-game losing streak, all by one goal. They are living on the edge, and are on a Bettman point streak. Also, just a short losing streak from 28th in the league. But now if they can be 3-4-3 in that rough patch rather than 2-8, I think they will stay alive and I think they will do that. Now, about those last 2 weeks…good thing we have 3 goalies
by BobSulli on Feb 15, 2012 12:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You know part of my approach is pure self-interest in my own health :)
I gotta keep an even keel on these things or I’ll be in the hospital for April.
Anything is possible — and I say that having seen a team go 20 games with one regulation win and a first quarter with a lot of poor luck this season, so I won’t look any reversal gifts in the mouth!
Plus, I do believe they are in a bubble mix with a lot of flawed teams, they just happen to have different flaws. It’s funny, we complain about half their blueline every day, but I think the Isles defensive discipline is one thing they have right. Capuano has them in formation. They know where to go (except when tired or stretched, then things get wacky). Watching other flawed teams gives me a better handle on what the Isles have done to give them a chance to win even when outplayed. (Nabokov sure helps though.)
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by Dominik on Feb 15, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I like our flawed team right now, better than all those other flawed teams
because if you look at all of them from #7 Ottawa all the way to #15 Carolina, we have the best/hottest goalie in Nabakov. Other than Miller and possibly Ward, but Buffalo and Carolina are behind us.
The one thing you need to make a run to the playoffs is a hot goalie and we have that right now.
Ottawa, Toronto, Washington and Winnipeg are all faltering as of late, this is the point in the schedule where we have to catch them.
Yeah.
But I think Isles have a better chance of pulling to within a point of 8th by March than ending up making the playoffs (assuming they pull within a point of 8th this month).
March’s schedule is very difficult (9 of 15 away games; 3 back-to-backs):
Flyers, Bruins, Devils (Brutal)
Devils, Devils, Rangers (Tough)
Caps, Flyers, Habs (Tough with game in Montreal)
Leafs, Lightning, Panthers (the “easy” week, but all away)
Penguins, Penguins, Bruins (Brutal)
But if they can make it through that within a couple points, getting 6-8 points in April is very doable: Sens, @NJ, Jets, @Clb.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 15, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
NHL.com posted the Palffy kissing incident for Valentines Day
Click here to witness bromance
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
lol, that's still remembered.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
"John Tavares(a top 10 forward in the NHL)"-Neil Greenberg
And hey, if you can score 40goals/yr, you can get away with that. lol
Damn I miss Palffy. Hell of a hockey player, especially for his small stature.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
"John Tavares(a top 10 forward in the NHL)"-Neil Greenberg
by OzzyFan on Feb 15, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"John Tenacity" - Great Nickname per Butchie's Slip Up
Is it a jersey foul to have a No. 91 jersey with “TENACITY” on the nameplate?
Jersey Foul
Saw someone at one of the games I went to with a Mike Bossy fishsticks jersey…
Jersey Blasphemy
An epic Backhand of Judgment is no doubt descending from the heavens to avenge such a deed.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Feb 15, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol. I saw some guy in a #05 Potvin jersey at a couple games too in this color/style:

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
"John Tavares(a top 10 forward in the NHL)"-Neil Greenberg
Not that I suggest reading hfboards, especially because it will make you stupider if you believe what 90% of the people there post,
but they have a butchism thread here full of his funny quotes:
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1066059
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
"John Tavares(a top 10 forward in the NHL)"-Neil Greenberg
Im just happy Im moving up in the FIG standings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JK, We need to squeak out a point vs. STL Thursday night, no ifs, ands or buts!!!!
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
I’ll be rooting for a three-point game. :)
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against the West, no problem
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Tavares was dominant...
… But I would argue that Parenteau was the best skater for the Isles tonight. 5 years, 6 years, fifteen. Whatever it takes.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 15, 2012 2:05 AM EST reply actions
I agree...
You HAVE to extend PA. He has done nothing but prove the Rags wrong for not giving him a fair shot and is the perfect complimentary player on a future playoff team. Speaking of the Rags, boy, wouldnt they love to have him back….lol
by Tazman19 on Feb 15, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As Al Davis used to say....
Just Win Baby!!!!!! & as long as we keep doing that I’ll be happy. But it would be nice for us to have a few dominating performances where the other team cant wait to get of the ice cause weve embarassed them that much.
3 Teams 3 Different Sports Same Torture!!!
by Kung Fu Panda 48 on Feb 15, 2012 2:48 AM EST reply actions
I didn't catch the game thread last night
and only saw the highlights this morning. I had three thoughts.
Nino on the 2 on none. Nino is the scorer there. He should not be deferring to the likes of Marty Reasoner. Ever. A Two on None should result EVERY time in a tap in into an empty net. For them not to even get a shot on goal is just disturbing.
Any one catch the announcers on the Parenteau goal when he said that he thought (either Pandolfo or Rolston) was “the last Devil to touch the puck”? That was Freudian.
Grabs is just snake bit right now. Nice saves by Pavelec on him and on MacDonald. Really really impressed with the creativity that JT shows with the puck. The lead up to MacDonald getting robbed was just a “pretty to watch” moment.
Nice win.
That is all.
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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 15, 2012 8:49 AM EST reply actions
Someone said this above
But yeah – whoever is responsible for such things needs to show the tape to Nino and tell him to take the initiative there. I think Reasoner chirped at him a bit afterwards – I’d have to go back to the DVR to see if I can read his lips – judging by Reasoner’s body language, I think he wasn’t expecting the play to progress the way it did…
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Feb 15, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
On AMac getting robbed
if you look at the replay, he had Ness at the far post for a tap in goal if he would have passed it.
Good instincts by the kid to continue to the net after passing it, instead of retreating to the blue line.
Matty Mo and Grabs
Matt Moulson – in the great tradition of Luc Robataille, Joe Mullen, etc. Has Matt ever taken 3 strides with the puck during the game? The ultimate finisher, fantastic hand eye coordination, great hockey sense, knows where he needs to be, quick release…puck never sits on his stick. I love watching guys that play at this level with those attributes. Opponents think to themselves, I only remember him touching the puck 3 times and 2 were in the net?
Grabs – Has no idea how to stickhandle, does not even try. Choose point A, and try to beat your man to it. Leverages what he’s got as well.
Ness – already better choice than our bottom 3
Good to see Isles get back on track, esp after being down a goal on the road
by 7:11_OT on Feb 15, 2012 9:15 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Fully OT, but Gawd, I loves me some of the ideas at IPB
Here’s the trade suggestion:
My new dream is KO, Grabner, DeHANN, Strome, and Eaton going to the Blue Jackets for Nash. Am I that off, wouldn’t that seem like a reasonable trade?
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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 15, 2012 9:32 AM EST reply actions
Oh God
Someone get that man to a mental hospital ASAP. Really, give up 2 top 6 forwards, 1 top 4 d prospect, a top 6 forward prospect and an old d-man for Nash, is this guy MM???
Why yes, I do have a man crush on Bailey and Martin, and no, I don't care what you think about it
by DarthDoyle on Feb 15, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Worst trade proposal ever....
I love Nash and think he would do great on the Island, but….
1. He would never come here with the arena uncertainty, lack of playoffs and huge crowds.
2. My only proposal would be 2012 #1, Nelson and DeHaan. And Columbus wouldn’t do that because they are getting no player that is ready right now.
Sooooooo,
2 top 6 proven forwards signed cheaply, a top 4 d-man prospect, a 1st line talent prospect, and Eaton(?)?. I’m sure the BJ’s would pull the trigger on that, but damn. Funny thing is, that’s probably close to their actual asking price for him.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
"John Tavares(a top 10 forward in the NHL)"-Neil Greenberg
Scott Howson?
Quit posting on IPB Scott Howson! You are a general manager who should be running his team.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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more (PK) time for Grabner please
So, what’s with the staff using Grabner very reluctantly? He’s been the 5th PK forward for quite a while, getting maybe one PK shift per game over the last couple of weeks and even was #6 last night and not used at all with Reasoner being back. Also, last night just like a couple of times earlier this season, Pandolfo was on the Nielsen-PA line instead of Grabner for the final shift to close out the game (change on the fly, so no faceoff insurance or something).
I really don’t get this at all. On the PK, Grabner’s been arguably the best forward for more than a year. Shots allowed per 60 were lowest when he was on last year and again have been lowest this year. Shots for per 60 have been highest for him this year (2nd just behind Nielsen last year). The numbers of Reasoner and Pandolfo have been average at best over the last four years. If you go by this measure, Pandolfo even was the least effective PK forward for New Jersey three times in a row from 2008 to 10, though you have to add he probably often faced PP1.
The PK’s obviously not been a problem whatsoever and even Pandolfo has been just fine. So, they wouldn’t improve dramatically with Grabner involved a little more frequently there, but still, he’s just better in my opinion and also with how they didn’t use Comeau, a very decent PK forward, at all early in the season, you wonder how they evaluate their PK forwards.
And should Pandolfo’s shot blocking really be preferred to Grabner’s speed late in games? I’d guess Grabner thrives on such situations, 5-on-6, with a very active and good stick as well as his speed and mobility generally enabling him to compensate a bit for the man disadvantage, get to loose pucks, move up the ice, etc.
by BenHasna on Feb 15, 2012 11:22 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
It is confusing
There’s been some speculation here that his groin problem might be nagging him still, and so they are trying to limit his minutes a little bit. But I’m not sure that could explain his near complete expulsion from the PK.
by afrosupreme on Feb 15, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
That's a very good question
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
It's a question I've been asking myself all season.
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by Fabtraption on Feb 15, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Rec'd. This is something that's been floating in my mind but I'm completely forgetting to talk about.
You have one of the best PK forwards in the NHL but refuse to use him? Great post.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
"John Tavares(a top 10 forward in the NHL)"-Neil Greenberg
A question on this
Is there any chance or did you notice if Grabs and FN’s ice time went up when there are other penalty killers used? I love them in that situation, but I hate Pando and Reasoner in most situations, so if they can be used on the PK more often with little ill effect, and FN and Grabs can be used at even strength more often, I don’t know if that’s actually a bad thing.
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I know this isn’t exactly what you’re looking for, since I think you want change over time this season, but some interesting comparisons with last year. I never would have guessed Frans to have more PP time last year, although that might be a product of us drawing more penalties last year. Additionally part of the lower SH numbers reflect us taking less penalties this year. Either way, their total minutes really have changed much.
2011-2012
Frans 2:06 SH/G 2:18 PP/G 17:37 TOT/G
Grabner 1:41 SH/G 1:06 PP/G 16:16 TOT/G
2010-2011
Frans 2:59 SH/G 2:30 PP/G 17:45 TOT/G
Grabner 1:31 SH/G 0:54 PP/G 15:04 TOT/G
Weird
Yeah, I mean over this season. It really is surprising that FN got more PP time last year. I feel like that’s not right…or at very least that it was on PP2.
I remember being excited that he was going to get a shot there this year.
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Have the Islanders taken more or less penalty minutes this year?
Could they have more time on the PK, but less time of the total number of PKs becasue the team is taking more penalties? Are they getting hit with a lot of 5-on-3 or 4 minute penalties which would result in a lot of PK time, but not minutes that provide a lot of opportunity to eat up ice time since they are condensed.
Much less
Last year we were the most penalized team in the league at 18.5 mpg. Of course that was spiked by TEH RECKONING, but only 5 teams took more minors than us.
This year we are the second-least penalized team at 8.7 mpg, and have taken the third lowest number of minors.
This is why Reasoner, even with his less than exciting play the first few months, has still been an upgrade over Konopka.
First of all, I like the thought. As said, Grabner’s the best PK forward in my opinion, but with them being shorthanded just two times per game or so it certainly doesn’t make an enormous difference if he’s out there or the others, who all are certainly not awful, either. And indeed, they’re much better off at EV whenever Grabner or other top-6 guys are out there compared to the bottom-6. So, could also be a good thing, but it doesn’t seem like that’s what they’re doing… Also, I know it’s important to be fresh, especially when your game is built on speed, but I think a nice rhythm and a big role is very helpful, too, for some of the guys and I think most are effective still with 17 minutes or so.
Anyway, DobberHockey has some fantastic tools and that thing called Chart-A-Player, where you can exactly see the TOI by situation for every player and game-by-game over the course of the whole season. Unfortunately, you need to be a member and I’m not.
However, Grabner’s average TOI by month has declined and also been much lower lately compared to the 2nd part of the last season, when he was just above 17 minutes every month.
This season, average TOI:
October 16:47
November 16:52
December 17:09
January 14:57
February 15:23
We don’t have the PK breakdown, as said, but we know of course Grabner’s PK TOI was higher last season and in October/November compared to the last few weeks. So, from what I can tell, it’s not been the case that Grabner’s reduced role on the PK has led to an increased role in other situations.
That is interesting
I guess they're resting him for the playoffs
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