Islanders Bits: Kenny Jonsson is Next
If you're heading into the weekend pondering whether or not to engage in the bipolar emotions that accompany following the New York Islanders, just remember that both games are matinees and plan your mood regulation accordingly.
The Panthers (Sunday's opponent) beat the Kings (Saturday's opponent) last night in Sunrise, which was probably the worst outcome because the Panthers gain two points and the Kings come to Long Island needing a win that much more.
Saturday is Kenny Jonsson Night (Day), the last of the "Decades Nights" honoring Islanders in their Hall. A few clips are embedded below after the morning links.
Someone tweeted at us a few days ago that with the Islanders blueline injuries they should convince Jonsson to suit up Saturday afternoon. The crazy thing? Jonsson, 37, is younger than Steve Staios.
Islanders Coverage
Our post-game thread from last night includes pertinent video reaction and links. Capuano's interview was pretty realistic -- including another question about how he sees Nino Niederreiter's progress.
Other recaps of last night: Newsday highlights the fourth line | Hockey Inside/Out has audio and coverage from the Montreal side | Gazette: Isn't Pat Hickey a funny old man | Kevin's recap at IPB starts off with a well-aimed shot at Dolanvision. | The Skinny from last night's game
- Painful but a good read: Brian Compton on Scott Gomez.
- Newsday notes the heavier load on Mark Streit and Andrew MacDonald with the injuries to the blueline. Also notes Mike Mottau took a "spin."
- PGI helpfully FransShots our way toward a cool Grantland article that talks Nielsen and the DBOJ.
- Ted Nolan brings First Nation action to Latvia.
- Scott Burnside tries to look at the Islanders without cliches.
- NYISkinny: Nabby's Numbers ... putting Evgeni Nabokov's season to date in historical perspective
- Random Stats: Mark Streit's fourth goal of the season last night ties him with Brian Rolston. John Tavares' assist keeps him above a point per game (54 in 53). Rhett Rakhshani has three shots on goal in five games.
- UPDATE: Ryan Strome returned in a big way. Four points in 11-0 rout of Casey Cizikas' old squad.
NHL
- I don't often enjoy Scott Hatnell, but when I do, I prefer it's at Dion Phaneuf's expense.
- Roster-gazing: The trade deadline looms: looking at the available cap space for teams in the Eastern Conference | Backhand Shelf
- Major condition: Will be smaller markets and will be susceptible to swings such as what sent the Jets packing in the '90s. Not that history ever repeats. Canada could support 9 NHL teams: report
- Another one off the market? Hurricanes look to sign Ruutu to new deal ahead of deadline
- In which Oilers fans cynically deal with the prospect of losing Ales Hemsky.
Garth Snow on Kenny Jonsson
So we've caught up to the era where the general manager played with the honoree. Somehow makes me feel both young and old:
Also see Stan Fichler on Jonsson.
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Saturday
I’ll be heading to the game Saturday and surprisingly it’ll be my first game of the year. Last year I took advantage of the $40 or so against the glass tickets on StubHub quite a few times.
I was never into hockey growing up (even though I was technically alive for two of the Cups and I am ashamed to admit it now, but I had a Rangers Starter jacket in grammar school). It wasn’t until college that I started watching. I befriended a guy from Long Island and the Islanders became my team (something which confuses people after I tell them I’m not from Long Island because why else would you like the Islanders). My first real taste of playoff hockey was the Islanders-Leafs series and holy schnikes I was hooked. What does this have to go with Kenny Jonsson? After Game 7, my friend ripped his Kenny Jonsson poster off his wall and said “I’m never watching this bleeping team again.” I laughed because why would anyone be that angry about their team losing. I now understand.
Also, I wonder if Jorgen will be in attendance.
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by Uncle Zenon on Feb 10, 2012 7:49 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Great story!
Being born in New York and rooting for the Islanders, Jets, and Mets. Yeah, I know.
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by CharlieIsles on Feb 10, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
It's good that you confessed
I am ashamed to admit it now, but I had a Rangers Starter jacket in grammar school.
There there, the first step is recognition. I’m sure ye shall be absolved.
Have fun at the game!
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Confession time?
I own a Mario Lemieux jersey.
I also own a Ray Bourque, Theo Fleury, Jaromir Jagr, Eric Lindros. The latter three are not Rags jerseys fyi.
I was a confused fan my first few years following the NHL.
I am in no way embarrassed of the RayBo jersey. I plead the fifth on the others (though I do wear the Flames jersey when I play pick up games).
I have a Ron Francis Penguins jersey and will keep it until I die
Ron Francis was awesome, I don’t care who he played for.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
It's true
I call those guys diplomats, guys who can overcome my tribal hatred.
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I have a Kings - Gretzky jersey.
I don’t have a good explanation for this. I was never a big Kings or Gretzky fan, but I wanted the jersey for some reason….still fits though.
Ron Francis
Is the player I use to differentiate true Pens fans from the ones who picked up the team when it became trendy to root for them.
Therapy group
I have a Flyers jersey. But it’s a Scott Mellanby (always loved his game) and it was a protest jersey when the Flyers were abandoning orange in favor of None More Black.
I also have a Pens jersey from the mid Lemieux era because {whispers} he was better than Gretzky and he battled through some hell, but that too was a protest when they abandoned their old logo. He’s not the first player who’s post-playing career commentary makes me wish I could unknow things.
I have a Devils jersey, but it’s a Stastny (also have a Nordiques Stastny) and that’s purely for Slavic solidarity reasons and also to protest their own None More Black movement. That’s as close as I could get to sacrilege.
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suggestion
you could have a ceremonial burning of the Lemieux jersey whilst watching a replay of Fight Night.
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
This is true
I’m a jersey hound with a certain love of history, so I still look at it and see pre-FFF connotations … and Islanders playoff victories.
I just remembered there’s actually a Rangers jersey in the closet from a well-meaning but misguided family member. It’s too small now, thankfully, but I’ve literally never worn it.
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To some people jersey's are like scrap books
Each of my jersey’s reminds me of a certain time. The Bourque jersey is important to me. Believe it or not I started following him and that awful Bruins team because he was the top rated defenseman in I think NHL 96 or 97? Started to catch games on t.v. started to love the sport. Began playing it myself. Got really really into it to the point I was following the P-Bruins calder cup run. All the sudden the Islanders higher Laviollette and he brings over Shawn Bates. The rest of the story you all know. It’s funny how I had been watching Islander games almost my whole life but it took an AHL coach and player to make me a die hard fan.
My hatred of all things Toronto also fueled that fire. Nothing makes you love a team more than hating their opponent.
Ahaha, cool
Good tale.
And scrapbooks, yes. I was playing hockey in my basement in an Isles sweater — #9 — when LaFontaine was traded. Was past the age of weeping after trades and losses, so I captained “our team” to an undefeated month on the way to the 5th Cup in the Basement Alternate Universe*. The #9 jersey is too small but I think of that time whenever I see it.
(*in this universe, mother carpeted the pillars so I wouldn’t knock myself out skating around them. But that ended up just encouraging me to drop the gloves and punch the hell out of the pillar, which bore a striking resemblance to Chris Nilan.)
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I love this story
You got a Gordie Howe Basement Trick!
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I have a team Canada jersey
with no name circa 2002 or 2004. I’m a turncoat.
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Im guilty as well.........
I have a Team Canada jersey circa 1987, also collected many NHL jerseys around that time as well. In my current inventory: Minnisota North Stars, Flyers, Canucks (black,gold, orange skate) Bruins, Team USA circa 1988 and 7 Islanders jerseys, two of which are mint unused fishsticks, home and away.
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Feb 10, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
You guys are doin it all wrong...It's supposed to go like this,
“I (State Your Name) am a jersey-holic and I have sinned.”
Then tell us the non-Isles jersey you own and the dirty, unseemly circumstances by which you acquired it.
Then we will sympathise with you as we tell you to douse it with lighter fluid and light it up.
We will then say a prayer for you, that you may walk the straight and narrow path to Isles fandom without any further transgressions.
Can I get an “Amen”!
by SJG in NJ on Feb 10, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is appropriate
That reminds me, I have a [Hockey Club from Montreal] jersey! But it was $28 and it’s a classic look, so I felt compelled to act.
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None of my jerseys have names on them
If I were to get one, I’d go classic retired Islander. I also nearly bought a steeply-discounted Flyers alternate when they had that odd silver-accented logo (also blank of name and number). At the time there really wasn’t anyone over there to hate. Now I’d never do it.
If I had my wish, these are the five non-Isles NHL sweaters I’d go for:
Hartford Whalers (either kelly green or the blue alternate)
Chicago Blackhawks (Winter Classic – an exception to None More Black since it was their original sweater color)
Colorado Rockies home whites
Minnesota Wild (red)
Wales Conference 1983
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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confessions...
my roller hockey team was the rangers.
i own a jagr pens black “pittsburgh” running down the chest jersey (i actually love it).
i own a turgeon canadiens jersey.
i own a white 25th anniversary isles Eric Fichaud jersey.
"Redemption? Sure. But in the end, he's just another dead rat in a garbage pail behind a Chinese restaurant."
Chicago Blackhawks (Winter Classic – an exception to None More Black since it was their original sweater color)
Fully agree. That one’s great. Perfect example of rightful black. Saw on that icethetics rumors site that apparently fans and players love it but the club itself does not? What in the world…
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Good intentions gone astray
I bought a Gretzky Campbell Conference All Star jersey a few years back thinking it’d be a nice bit of NVMC memorabilia celebrating his 4 goals in the ‘83 game. Only problem is Mitchell & Ness actually made the ’84 version of the jersey and got their All Star Games confused in the marketing. Starting in ’84, the NHL started using the Rags font on the jerseys, which is unfortunate. The change is subtle enough most people probably wouldn’t realize (as I didn’t until someone pointed it out to me), but part of me dies a little more each time I look at it.
This is exactly why I specified the '83 Wales jersey above
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Oh oh oh oh
This is exactly the danger with these things! I feel your pain. That sort of detail keeps me up at night.
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Same here-- got a nameless 1987 team canada jersey.
I’ve also got a sweet Oshawa Generals jersey (also nameless). My dad is from Oshawa and we each got one years back (long before Johnny Tavares even owned a pair of skates)
Correction the Team Canada jersey I have is this one bought in 1988: The Jersey was of the 1977 Team. It was an awesome jersey, I had to have it!

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Feb 10, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Those were sweet
Liked that set.
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I'm the proud owner of a fisherman's jersey (and where it proudly)
and a Marc Savard Bruin’s jersey (my favorite player) and a Dallas Stars T-shirt (they are the closest NHL to me now).
Jerseys I own
Back in the day (1990s) when I still lived on Long Island, or was coming back to Long Island for an extended period while I was in college, I’d occasionally pillage the Plaza Sports location in Centereach for a hockey jersey. While this wasn’t the only place I bought hockey jerseys from, they had good deals, and even though I’m some pounds heavier today, the jerseys still fit.
I own
3 Islanders jerseys – white jersey, pre-Fisherman days; navy blue Fisherman-style jersey with traditional Islanders crest, current blue jersey
2 Oilers jerseys – white 1996-style jersey, 3rd jersey designed by Todd MacFarlane (with the oil cog on the front)
1 white Hurricanes jersey
1 white Blackhawks jersey
1 Team Finland jersey (from the 1998 Olympics)
1 navy Beast of New Haven jersey
1 Labatt Blue jersey
......well, a LOT of people must've been similarly confused by the sheer number of non-LI residents on this board who are fans!
Myself included…..
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Really?!
I’m shocked that Craig would allow any hockey talk let alone an Islander great!
Totally worth getting up early for. Maybe I’ll call in…
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listening to it now
Bossy loves the Isles.
How do Islander fans spell hope?
T-A-V-A-R-E-S
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 10, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Boomer gave Bossy and our dynasty kudos
How do Islander fans spell hope?
T-A-V-A-R-E-S
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 10, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
got to catch the end of the interview on my way home from the gym...
if Bossy believes in the future, what are we worrying about?
"Redemption? Sure. But in the end, he's just another dead rat in a garbage pail behind a Chinese restaurant."
by gukid17 on Feb 10, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Hooray, Strome's back and immediately awesome
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I truly believe he will be our best number 1 pick, not named Tavares.
How do Islander fans spell hope?
T-A-V-A-R-E-S
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 10, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
I believe it will be
Brock Nelson. Outstanding season so far.
by DavidSweden on Feb 10, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
I'm still holding out hope for DP
by afrosupreme on Feb 10, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
well played sir
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
they're coming, bud
If only a few of them pan out, we might have a shot for once.
How do Islander fans spell hope?
T-A-V-A-R-E-S
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 10, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
I'm with you
He’s really upped his game. With his frame and natural ability he is a near lock to make the team some day. It’s just a matter of if they use him on wing or center. He’s got great hands for a power forward too. His stick checking is great and he uses his reach well….I’d imagine he would be a good PK.
No Sleep 'til....We Find Some Secondary Scoring
Wonder how much Cizikas had to do with this?
In many ways one can think that Strome took out a lot of frustration on the Majors including some from last season’s OHL Eastern Conference finals has it was the Majors who just beat up on Strome.
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So they were discussing NHL refs on NHL tonight
They were highlighting the Canes Ducks Corey Perry tripping incident (Don Van Masenhoven at it again.). Said the play would be flagged and sent to the home offices. said some refs will lose their jobs at the end of the year. If Von Massenhoven doesn’t lose his job first, something is worng, and he better be nowhere near the playoffs.
So did this happen with any of our atrocious calls this year? I know NHL network never did a piece on any of them as far as I know.
The JT Diving call, hammer’s misconduct and Hammer’s delay of game were all 10 times worse than that play.
How do Islander fans spell hope?
T-A-V-A-R-E-S
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 10, 2012 9:01 AM EST reply actions
Don't forget
Grabovski tripping Moulson and then skating the length of the ice and scoring the game-winner in overtime. That’s how it went, right? I guess you have to be an MVP to get people to notice.
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by PGI on Feb 10, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's the one game I missed this season
But from all accounts it was the worst officiated game most isles fans have ever seen.
How do Islander fans spell hope?
T-A-V-A-R-E-S
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 10, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Points LOST or TAKEN away..........
So far if memory serves me correctly: ONE potential point taken from the Hamonic phantom delay of game vs. the Sharks. ONE potential point taken by the phantom JT diving call. Grabovski trip of Moulson, ONE potential goal taken on this NON call. Anyone can come up with any more incidents? That’s THREE points that would come in very handy right about now!
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Feb 10, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Russell, we were leading the Pens when they threw Hammer out of the game.
How do Islander fans spell hope?
T-A-V-A-R-E-S
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 10, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
A couple more
I was wondering about this as they make their desperate push to the playoffs. Aside from the ones you mentioned, and the Hammer ejection that Bobby mentioned…
1) Against the Avs, up 3-0, Pandolfo gets called for an absurd holding penalty while already on the PK (Avs player simply fell when the two came together), Avs score on 5-3 and make a runaway win for the Isles a game, we eventually lose in OT
2) First Isles-Pens game, Fleury blatantly trips Comeau after Comeau steals the puck from him behind the net. He could have walked it into the goal, but Fleury sticks his leg out and takes him down, no call. Isles go on to lose the game.
True enough
And the first few home games of the season I remember were pretty bad in that way. Not sure if it cost Isles any points.
But Isles probably gained 3-4 points from other team getting bad calls too.
I don’t remember anything as bad as the two calls on Hamonic (separate games), but my mind tends to remember when Isles get shafted and forget when other team is.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 10, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
I hate that you brought those up
Because they really tick me off now that I think about them.
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by Dominik on Feb 10, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hammer's Misconduct
was most certainly reviewed and rescinded.
When it happened pretty sure I yelled out that I could never be madder at a ref.
They sure showed me in Toronto didn’t they?
Yes, it was rescinded
But they didn’t talk about in on their network. Except for one little blurb, they hardly mentioned it.
How do Islander fans spell hope?
T-A-V-A-R-E-S
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 10, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
The PIM were rescinded
But Hamonic was still booted from the game.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
yep
How do Islander fans spell hope?
T-A-V-A-R-E-S
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 10, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
The question posed
was if the nhl was reviewing them.
I am pretty confident that all of the GMs are making noise about this year. Just saw a tweet that penalties are at a 3 decade low.
That’s gonna drive your scoring down big time league wide.
Van Massenhoven's been in the league forever, right?
I’d be surprised if they fire a longtime ref. I’d see some of the younger refs going if they’re actually going to get rid of any of them.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
by Fabtraption on Feb 10, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
They have fired a few longtimers before
I have no idea if he’d be a prime target though.
A lot of this year has looked like they’re getting conflicting directives. Sometimes it looks like flat-out laziness or else some urge to call less. Then we get back from the break and Martin is the first example of, “Oh, now we’re going to call goalie interference.”
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MASSENHOVEN has made some ridiculous calls this season...
But, some of them were in favor of the Leafs, so he should be fine.
How do Islander fans spell hope?
T-A-V-A-R-E-S
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 10, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
this
Someone tweeted at us a few days ago that with the Islanders blueline injuries they should convince Jonsson to suit up Saturday afternoon. The crazy thing? Jonsson, 37, is younger than Steve Staios.
is why i don’t fantasize about playoffs… til the pandolfo’s and staios’s and rolston’s are gone, i just can’t let myself think they have a shot
These comments crawl up from the depths of the deepest Chasm of Saar
Jonsson is younger than Staios? really?
Maybe they werent kidding about getting Jonsson to play for a day, i mean he didnt retire that long ago. How bad could he be? lol
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 10, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
so sad i'm going to miss kenny jonsson day...
i hear kenny is gonna dress tonight and pair with aucoin while hamrlik pairs with janne niinimaa.
"Redemption? Sure. But in the end, he's just another dead rat in a garbage pail behind a Chinese restaurant."
Only thing better...
Would be Denis Potvin and a Gary Hart duo…one does his offensive thing and the other stays back.
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!! Come, Get some respect a Professional team deserves!!
I know Kenny was a very good defenseman.....
but are they stretching it by putting him into the Islanders hall of fame? Perhaps he was partly a culprit of being on the team through the lowest point in the franchise’s history, but i see him as being a very good defenseman who played for the Isles for a long time. I dont think he ever did anyhthing spectacular nor did any of the teams he played on and he also relinquished his captaincy. What should actually warrant a HOF induction?
Me and a friend were discussing
but who else could you pick from the 00s?
Only people I could think of were Bates and Scatchard and Jonsson deserves it more than either of them.
It seems to me this season they have tried to honor some guys outside of our dynasty years
And I have no problem with that.
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T-A-V-A-R-E-S
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 10, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
But there are better picks, I'd think.
None are named Yashin…
Here’s a thought: Honor DiPietro. Maybe that’ll get him to retire.
They should have selected Mike Milbury.
And then let 16,000 people pelt him with broken dreams and lost hopes. Could have Chara up on the big screen showing off his ring, “Hello, this is Zdeno Chara and this is my Stanley Cup ring, thanks Mike!”
Agreed
The Isles have players worth celebrating after the Dynasty years, but unfortunately, most didn’t stay in Islanders Country that long. While Jonsson was an excellent defenseman and should certainly be recognized for his career, I think he gets the Islanders HOF nod here, in part, due to his longevity with the Isles.
No love for Ziggy?
he did have his best years with the Islanders. I have to admit, that I also think Jonsson is a stretch for NYIHOF honors
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by Timtropolis on Feb 10, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
N/M, missed the decade part.
That being said, I still don’t think he was THAT good.
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by Timtropolis on Feb 10, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
As good as Ziggy was at scoring goals...
…Jonsson was much more valuable. His Defensive game was as good as Palffy’s offensive game, and Jonsson’s offensive game was WAY better than Palffy’s defensive game.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 10, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
.....you say that NOW, NDRE. but if JT or Matty Mo ends being the first 40-goal scorer
since Zigs, that argument might not hold much weight (Doug or otherwise:P
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I'd take Jonsson's prevention of 40 goals as soon as Palffy's or Moulson's scoring 40 goals.
And Jonsson was able to help create more goals than Palffy helped to prevent.
Hard to compare a Palffy 40-goal season with a Tavares 40-goal season (if/when it happens). In Palffy’s three 40-goal seasons, he totaled 8 more goals than assists. If/when Tavares scores 40 goals, he’ll likely have 100+ points. (And he drives possession more, and he probably draws more penalties in a 40-goal season. In other words, Tavares is a more complete player than Palffy, even if he doesn’t become a really good center defensively, which he may or may not.
Yes, I would take a 40-goal season from Tavares over Jonsson’s best season.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 10, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
I have Tomas Jonsson over Kenny Jonsson
Tomas should go first. kenny, not sure of if at all. We can’t honor everyone. (Neither belongs. Not even Mike McEwen, although I’d summarily disqualify him because he played for the Rangers.)
Missing the point
they picked a player from every decade.
Kj is the 00 member.
Oh ok....that would explain it then
Im sure there could have been better choices, but Milbury or the owners never liked to hold onto good players for more than 2 years
by LaFontaine16 on Feb 10, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Kenny is awesome.
He deserves lots of praise. He was here for half of the 00’s…. the good half.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 10, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Agree: Kenny was a work horse and a quality D-man
Good call on having him represent the 00’s.
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Feb 10, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
maybe, but were there better picks?
Blake? Aucoin? And do we really have to honor mediocrity?
Aucion had one or two awesome seasons...
…whereas Jonsson was awesome for 4 or 5. (Aucion just being more offensive, Jonsson more defensive.)
Blake is probably closer. You could make an argument that Blake was more valuable to the Isles than Palffy, but it is my opinion that Jonsson was a good deal more valuable than either.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 10, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
If we made a trade right now
For Cloney Jonnson (that’s a pun. get it? a clone of jonnson? sorry…) we would be heralding him as the missing piece of our defensive core.
A solid D-man strong in his own zone with terrific offensive instincts. Has a good shot and a better first pass. Ability to log top minutes.
I don’t understand the argument against him. I could understand arguments for other players but you cannot knock his contributions.
by Bleuchz on Feb 10, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's all we got in the 00's, mediocrity.
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Feb 10, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
MEDIOCRITY?????
Kenny Jonsson was not a mediocre defenseman at ALL.
You are falling into the trap of believing that its only offense that makes someone a fine player- and you are wrong.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 10, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah.
You need to look at stats like CPI.
by Bleuchz on Feb 10, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I actually had a fight and broke up with my boyfriend because of Kenny Jonsson.
He was (well, Im sure still is) a Rags fan… and he had the audacity to say that Kenny Jonsson was a “shitty defenseman”. A shitty defenseman! He would not listen to reason and was bashing the guy- it really, really pissed me off. Arrogant Rag-lover was saying that he didnt win the cup and so he was nothing. It didnt matter that he left the NHL when he was still in his prime, no- that didnt matter. He got me so mad that I wouldnt talk to him for months. You rag on Kenny, no TMC-lovin for you.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 10, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
words cant express how awesome reading this was
by MineolaIsles on Feb 10, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Haha, thank you. :)
He soured me on dating Rangers fans- which unfortunately knocks out a lot of guys.
I wound up dating a Canadian Leafs fan in the 00s, too- there were a few fights there as well.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 10, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'm with you, Kenny was a top two defensemen....
on most teams when he played, wish we had him NOW!!
In loving memory;Dad thanks for making us Islanders fans, ACC 1918-2011
If it weren't for the
concussions and the fact he played on a team that was up-and-down, I think he could have been a Norris candidate.
by DavidSweden on Feb 10, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with this
He’s not quite as big or offensive, but if you were to have switched him with Lidstrom, and put him on the Wings for his career, I think he would have ended up with a couple Norris trophies. He was an elite defenseman defensively. And he put up enough points (14 goals one year) to be noticed.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 10, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Kenny was amazing
You really had to watch him day in and day out to get the high level of consistency. As Aucoin says in one of those videos about him, Kenny just didn’t make mistakes, he played well on both ends of the ice, and his career was just cut way too short from the concussions.
To see Kenny play, and I’m reaching a bit but not that much—it was like looking into the face of god and seeing him smiling back saying, “you are my most wondrous creation.”
by brother_rat on Feb 10, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I feel like these are the conversations we'd be having
If LHH existed in K. Jonsson’s day.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
by Dominik on Feb 10, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Its true.
Kenny Jonsson was definitely the “we know how great he is and most of you people dont” type of player… a real LHH kinda guy!
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 10, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
Its not about the bar being anywhere, it is what it is.
If YOU were paying tribute to the 2000s, what would you call the half of the decade where they made the playoffs almost every year compared to the half when they made them only once?
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 10, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I agree
In comparison it’s the good half. Just sucks that a series of first round exits was all we got out of it.
thats the truth. Sigh.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 10, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
the whole picking players via decade thing...
doesn’t make that much sense to me. the isles elected lafontaine over turgeon, thomas, and hogue? it’s silly if you ask me. more of a popularity contest.
"Redemption? Sure. But in the end, he's just another dead rat in a garbage pail behind a Chinese restaurant."
the isles elected lafontaine over turgeon, thomas, and hogue?
What are you talking about?
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 10, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Am I confused?
wasn’t westfall the pick for the 90s over lafontaine?
No
70s: Eddie Westfall
80s: Kenny Morrow
90s: Pat Flatley
00s: Kenny Jonsson
Patty Lafontaine should damn well be up there, as the organization has not properly honored him since his HHOF induction—but then again, he doesn’t want much to do with them, either.
what exactly happened between the Isles and Pat LaFontaine?
Why yes, I do have a man crush on Bailey and Martin, and no, I don't care what you think about it
We aren't supposed to be talking about this.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 10, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
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by Dominik on Feb 10, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I have said this before....
This Islanders Hall of Fame is a joke until John Tonelli is put in. No one was invovled in more big goals than him. I don’t know what happened between him and the organization but he deserves to be put in before anyone else.
Both
Tomas and kenny were excellent, underappreciated d men that any team would have wanted.
by WRANGLERICK on Feb 10, 2012 12:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Kenny Jonsson Interview
Brings back some good memories
Why yes, I do have a man crush on Bailey and Martin, and no, I don't care what you think about it
NYIslanders @NYIslanders
Capuano says that d-pairs will change for tomorrow night. Parenteau and Okposo may switch again. #isles
Neil Smith @bigdealneil94 @KeithLHHockey @craigjbutton hey keith GFY
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Ummm
That can only mean Mottau, no? Unless there is another callup?
I’m having a hard time keeping track.
Was thinking it's the endless shuffle they've had since Hamonic got hurt
Hoping that means Mottau-free.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Not necessarily
the “pairings” can change without the personnel changing. I mean, you could have Ness with Amac and Eaton Jurcina back together logging minimal minutes.
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by Keith Quinn on Feb 10, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Unless those changes involve acquiring
a couple of guys that can turn faster than a fleet of battleships, it probably won’t matter all that much.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
I like the idea of moving Nino and Martin up.
Mostly because it means Isles have a better chance of getting 2 or 3 lines going. Give Bailey a couple experienced wingers for a change. PAP or KO on his right. Martin on the top line. (It seems anyone can produce on JT’s line, so why not try it? JT carries the puck into the zone. Martin goes to the net.)
Moulson-Tavares-Martin
Grabner-Bailey-Parenteau
Nino-Nielsen-Okposo
The 2nd and 3rd lines would both be very capable of scoring in transition.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 10, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sort of against Nino promotion at this point (would rather they swap Wallace out of the lineup)
But I’m intrigued by the thought of getting Nino some Jedi training with Nielsen. Maybe once the “playoff” push is expired.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Waivers
Is Wallace exposed if we send him down? It’s the wrong time of year to do that if this is the case.
Yes, but...
Worth the risk in my view.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
How big of a risk is it?
The other team would have to play him in the NHL, right? So perhaps a 10% chance someone claims him?
He’d be a good battler for BPT if they make the playoffs. I really don’t want Sound Tigers to lose him.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 10, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Good point
I see it as near-zero risk. Can’t imagine someone’s dying to have him for their playoff run.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Ugh
StapeNewsday
Also, Hamonic’s face looks like he lost a tussle with a tractor trailer, not a flying puck. #Isles
.....do know how that FEELS; had surgery on a deviated septum in '95 and, when the anasthesia wore off,
felt as though a Mack truck had hit my face!
In memoriam: Virginia Ariel Cayon 1927-2011 R.I.P. Mom
Did it work long-term? I may have that done soon.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 10, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yuck.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 10, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Probably a lot of bruising, then, I imagine?
“If his face looks more like Brind ‘Amour, he’ll be a better Captain one day.”
True or false?
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Feb 10, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Before the season started, Hammer looked 15, when the season ends, he will look 30
How do Islander fans spell hope?
T-A-V-A-R-E-S
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 11, 2012 7:24 AM EST up reply actions

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