Bridgeport/Islanders Prospect Roundup, Jan. 8th
Last week we were talking about how Kevin Poulin looked like he was returning to form. This week Poulin flat out took over as he posted three straight shutouts, breaking Rick DiPietro's old Bridgeport record. In other good news for Islanders prospects Johan Sundstrom had a strong showing as Sweden won the World Juniors. Ryan Strome had 9 points in 6 games for the Bronze winning Canadian team.
Monday January 2nd Vs Worcester (Sharks)
The first shutout for Poulin, as he was also named first star of the night. Casey Cizikas [Rhett Rakhshani, Aaron Ness] opened the scoring. In the 2nd period BP exploded with 3 goals, Tony Romano [Matt Donovan] Kael Mouillierat [Mathieu Aubin] and Rakhashani [Ness, Dylan Reese] were the goal scorers. Rakhashani was named the 2nd star of the night and Ness was 3rd star. Highlights
Wednesday January 4th Vs Manchester (Kings)
Another night, another shutout for Poulin. This time though he was only 2nd star of the night. Sean Backman [Micheal Haley, Romano] got first blood during a 20 shot first period for BP. BP then scored 3 straight PP goals, going 3 for 7 on the PP for the night. Haley [Cizikas, Rahkashani] Romano [Scott Howes, Mouilierat] and Rakhashani [Cizikas, Reese] scored with the man advantage. Haley was named 1st star of the night and Romano 3rd star. Highlights
Saturday January 7th Vs Portland (Coyotes)
Kael Mouilierat must have noticed me complaining about his name last week. Mouilierat scored PP goals to open and close the scoring. Ness and Donovan, Howes and De Haan notched assists on his goals. Rakhashani [Cizikas] and Aubin [Donovan, Mouilierat] had the other goals on the night. Poulin was named first star of the night as he faced over 30 shots for the first time this week. Mouilierat and Donovan were named 2nd and 3rd stars, respectively.
Natural Born KirillsKirill Petrov added a goal this week, he now has 11 goals, 9 assists for 20 points in 37 games.
Kirill Kabanov played in 2 games this week, notching a goal and 2 assists. He has 14 goals, 16 assists in 25 games.
CHL
Ryan Strome was at the WJCs with Team Canada. Highlights Vs Russia Vs Finland
He returned to Niagra on Saturday night and had a goal and 2 assists and was named 1st star.
Mitchell Therot had no points in 2 games this week for Niagra
John Persson had an assist and was -2 in 2 games this week.
Brenden Kitchon played in 3 games this week for Spokane and he notched an assist and a +5
Andrey Pedan is back from the WJCs and played 2 games this week, in which he got penalties in both and a +1
Hit the Books*: NCAA
*Rosen Plays 101 is popular
3rd ranked Notre Dame played 5th ranked Minnesota and eked out a win. Anders Lee didn't have a point, but Robbie Russo had an assist. Highlights from game Vs Russian Stars
Brock Nelson's North Dakota played Cody Rosen's Clarkson this week. While Cody Rosen was back on the bench, Brock had an assist and was a +1 in the 3-1 win.
Jason Clark played in both games this weekend for Wisconsin against RIT, and had no points.
Denver split games with Alabama-Huntsville this weekend, Scott Mayfield had a goal and an assist and was named 3rd star of the night on Saturday.
Finnish Loans & Trust
Mikko Koskinen played 3 game this week, in 12 games he's got a 1.33 GAA and .950 SV% and is 8-1-2. Here's an interview and some highlights
Jesse Joensuu has 10 goals and 11 assists in 31 games.
Johan Sundstrom is back in SEL. So far this season he has 3 goals and 2 assists in 30 games. Highlights Sweden Vs Finland interview interview
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it's good to see...
things are bubbling again under the surface. It might be time for some spark from Rhett and Kevin. I wonder how Casey will react to having a $5M LW?
Thanks Webby!
GO G-MEN!!!
I've had enough! It's time to call out Garth Snow!
@JPinVA
Thank you Kevin Poulin.
After the last two nights we needed some good news. Oh well, looks like another lottery pick.
Sundstrom did look good at the WJC games I saw. Wonder if he’ll be in Bridgeport next year. With a lottery pick the Isles may even have an all swedish line in the future of Ullstrom, Sundstrom and Filip Forsberg.
Or, as Def Leppard would say
Pa-Pa-Pa-Pou-lin!
(now Foolin’ is going to be stuck in my head all day)
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
by PGI on Jan 8, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How awesome would that be played on the jumbotron
after big saves…you should send that in to them.
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Hilarious
I really don’t like Def Leppard, but I could get on board with this.
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Love it.
“Oh… you cant score a goal!”
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Jan 8, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Pedan
Are we sure he was at the WJ’s? The one Russian roster I read he wasn’t on it (TSN.ca) and the one Russian game I watched I didn’t notice him either.
My mistake
Now that I think about it, he was invited to camp but didn’t make the team. I was going by my old posts and forgot about that update.
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I do hope we bring up some of these guys soon
tempted to take in the Providence game today, but probably not practical
what is the goal of the Islanders this year? There are basically three types of NHL teams this season
1) Leaders who understand that its going to be defense & goaltending first in the playoffs
2) Bubble teams who do enough to make the playoffs, but that’s their ceiling
3) Bottom feeders who can get occasional wins against teams going through the motions
We have been and are squarely a 3) team above – to get to category 2), we need more mobility on defense and solid netminding and get further we need a defensive mentality, system and players, with enough youth & speed, that we simply haven’t been finding – you can see why Tallon cut Grabner, even if was probablyy a mistake
Call up de Haan & Ness at once – consider Donovan – make a determination on Wishart – and get us some stoppers on D as well – hurt guys on D & older guys with no mobility or real desire to play D have been killing us and that’s on Snow
Hopefully Poulin can be our starter next year, and will get some games at the NHL season soon – a Poulin/Nabokov combo is intriguing
Making a move to category 1) above is another question entirely – one that requires a different mindset, skill set, system, general approach including a front office not skimping a la the Wilpons which has seemed at times where we are this season
We have some good pieces that can make us a winner one day, but this season has been one step forward, two steps back in some ways – I feel as if we need to start from Ground Zero on coaching & systems, at least to get us the defensive posture & presence that is required in today’s NHL, and likely tomorrow’s as well
If we take these steps tomorrow, the Detroit game becomes at least interesting – if we do nothing, they will kill us
Another reason to make moves now
let me expand on this a bit
identify and cut every player we are definitely not bringing back next year – RIGHT NOW
that’s at minimum something like Eaton, Rolston, Mottau, Pandolfo
replace them with something like de Haan, Cizikas, Ness, Rakhshani
give some of these guys a chance to play NHL games now – see where they are – even if 5 games or so – that wouldn’t hurt their careers in any way
Flip Poulin & Nilsson for a while too
i think i'd rather bring up wishart over cdh
let cdh gain more confidence in the A, while we give a true test to wishart in the show to see if we have anthing there.
agree
Wishart is an RFA at the end of the year, at some point a decision is going to need to be made on him
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I would too
Honestly, I’m not worried about getting the prospects here now — if one is clearly ready, great. If one needs to be playing with an NHLer (but how many of THOSE do we have on the blueline?) to keep progressing, okay.
But really, we have Reese and a decision looming on Wishart. Start playing them. Force the hand of the incompetent “banged up” NHLers. Replace one stopgap with another and see if you have something.
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Why bring Poulin up now?
Just to watch him get lit up like a Christmas tree behind an inferior defense? Nah. Let Poulin dominate in the AHL and see what he can do to make the team next year when we all fall for the same “hope” and “promise” again.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
Because unless Montoya or Rick are back to form, the Isles have to play a kid sometimes.
Nabokov cannot play all these games.
I think Poulin is more NHL ready than Anders Nilsson.
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by TheMetalChick on Jan 8, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
I have faith Montoya will be back shortly.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
by Turgeon1992 on Jan 8, 2012 3:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Speaking of:
…Goaltender Al Montoya and forward David Ullstrom, both out since Dec. 21 with concussions, are scheduled to practice with the team Monday. Montoya had been the Isles’ No. 1 goaltender before Evander Kane caught him with a stick to the head in Winnipeg 19 days ago. Montoya had started 10 of the previous 12 games, and the Islanders were 6-4-2 in that span.
Evgeni Nabokov has started the past eight games in goal, and though he looked sharp in winning three straight, he allowed nine goals on only 45 shots in the two losses this past weekend and could use a rest.
Montoya won’t be ready for Tuesday’s visit from the Detroit Red Wings, and Anders Nilsson has been sitting as Nabokov’s backup for two weeks, so he might not be a good choice to play.
But Kevin Poulin, the Isles’ other goaltending prospect, is on a roll for Bridgeport and might, according to a source, get a call-up. Poulin set an organizational record with three consecutive shutouts last week and four consecutive wins overall. Poulin, who started and lost a 3-2 game to the Stars on Dec. 15, his only Islanders appearance this season, has a 2.77 goals-against average for Bridgeport….
{Newsday link}
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by TheMetalChick on Jan 8, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
absolutely,
poulin is far more nhl ready than nilsson, and DP will never be fully healthy.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Jan 8, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t consider dp a viable choice period.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
by Turgeon1992 on Jan 8, 2012 8:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nabby has some trade value
because his cap hit is so low and he’s on a 1 year deal.
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by Mark D on Jan 8, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
and his cap hit is probably closer to 300K right now than as opposed to the whole of the contract. I wonder if capgeek has any designs of checking the remaining in-season cap hit for individual players on top of what they did for full teams.
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Casey
and please bring up Cizikas – the only reason not to is not to start his ELC
does every decision have to do with money and not what’s best for the team?
Unfortunately it does...
when the team is losing $10 mil a year and is worth less than when purchased. Money was spent in the early days after CW bought the team, unfortunately MM screwed that up and now, until there is some arena certainty and thus some financial planning possible, I don’t see any change in the focus on keeping costs at a minimum. Thus, any calls for release of players and bringing up other players (which comes at a significant cost) is not likely to happen…we might not like it, but it is the clear economic reality. And, don’t think a phantom local buyer will help things…not gonna happen. Team has even less value than it could given no certainty of where it will play and how that could impact revenues. No one will put up $$ with this level of uncertainty, and CW will not take this much of a financial bath…despite what many people seem to think, he is not an idiot. The team as most value to buyers wanting to move the team elsewhere who likely have a business plan (and arena) in place.
Cizikas' ELC has already started
So that part is irrelevant, actually. The only time you “slide” ELCs with that <10 NHL games played clause is for 18- or 19-year-old players (CDH in juniors, KO in the AHL at age 19).
The only money “saved” by not promoting a player in his situation is the difference in his pro-rated NHL salary vs. AHL salary.
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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Don't rush it or them.
I wouldn’t have a problem with recalling Poulin but, I think we need to stop and not rush prospects to the NHL just because the current NHL team is not going anywhere. Isn’t that what many have said they did with Bailey and now maybe Nino.
I would not have a problem with bringing up Wishart because a decision does need to be made with him. However, maybe the reason he hasn’t been brought up is because he hasn’t earned it. Why is de Haan going to the allstar game and not Wishart.
Don’t rush Cizikas. Look what a full year in the AHL did for Ullstrom. Don’t panic about Nino either. Tyler Seguin played 4th line minutes last year. Plus I wouldn’t mind if Nino started next year in Bridgeport.
Sad to say but this is going to take more time. I don’t expect anything different next year. Maybe Strome will need another year in Jrs along with the Isles 2012 #1 pick too.
The Isles are still a year or two away from any real progress at the NHL level. This is mostly due to the fact that that they can’t sign front line UFA but, I hope they don’t compound this by rushing the prospects.
Yup
I feel the same way. This is beginning to look like a lost season, so what is there to do? If you recall CDH and Cizikas, then you’re doing exactly what Milbury did with his prospects – rushing them to the NHL level when they’re clearly not ready. I would rather see second-year AHL guys like Rahkshani, Wishart, Donovan or Ness in the NHL over CDH and Cizikas. This is gonna be a shitty second half to the season again.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
just a note
Donovan and Ness aren’t 2nd year guys really, they only played a handful of games last year.
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by Mark D on Jan 8, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah...I know
I figured a handful of games would still be reason enough to recall one of them over CDH.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
i put Wishart in the same category as Haley
both have been disappointments, but appear to be playing better at the moment….at the moment….caution
by CanadianIsleslifer on Jan 8, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
CBA question
It has been written that Lee can opt out of school this year and declare himself free from the Islanders
Can this work with any player in college?
Just read an article on on the Rangers draft pick Kreider. He would be an interesting FA
All the best
Dom knows it better, but basically there’s a loophole if the player played a season of hockey as an 18 year old before they went to college. Kassel and Gregoire had both played amateur hockey as 18 year olds before going to school, which was why they were able to leave school and become FAs.
Lee did play a year of amateur hockey,Nelson and Clark didn’t.
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I believe Garth made a comment about Lee recently, he seemed pretty confident about keeping him from what I remember
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by TheMetalChick on Jan 8, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
same
I think it might have been one of the GM Shows.
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Yeah I think youre right, thats what it was from.
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by TheMetalChick on Jan 8, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
whoo hoo!
The Sound Tigers @TheSoundTigers 1m
The Sound Tigers have broken their team record for longest shutout streak as a team.
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by Keith Quinn on Jan 8, 2012 4:12 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Michael Fornabaio @fornabaioctp 2m
So, 4:22 in, Bridgeport has a team-record scoreless streak. Up to 204:51.
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Is Poulin still playing?
Because if he is thats just ridiculous
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Yep
Michael Fornabaio @fornabaioctp 7m
No score after one, shots 12-9 Bridgeport. That’s 11 periods in a row without a goal against, 220:29 team, 218:17 Poulin, 94 SOG
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Think what BPT might look like next year when all the forward prospects will get there.
by DavidSweden on Jan 8, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Poulin's streak
has inspired this group in an important way – he’s playing with quality & desparation – very encouraged
end of First Period, and they are doing everything they can to prevent a goal – consistent/constant backchecking by all 12 forwards – intensity by the D – puck mobility keeping play out of their own end
all things the Islanders struggle with the above to their detriment
I have to wonder if Brent Thompson, coach of last year’s ECHL champion Alaska Aces, has a bright future himself – this defense first approach is very encouraging – Brent has a firey side as well, which I like – and he clearly has already been a successful coach – the rest of this Bridgeport season could be interesting to watch after all to see how long they can continue to play this way
de Haan & Ness strike me as the best two D-men here – Donovan appears to need more time, would expect him to be in Bridgeport next year – Wishart reminds me exactly of Jurcina – Olson & Oleksy are solid enough – and it may well help this group to play together as a unit of 6, assuming they keep this up
Cizikas brings an intangible set of skills that you just can’t teach – I’d like to see a player with his fire rub off on his Islander teammates as soon as possible – you just can’t teach what he knows and he’ll never be more than a 20 goal scorer whereever he plays
he reminds me of a combination of Derek Jeter and Butch Goring
the other 11 forwards are all digging in and helping out on D as a first thought
this is a great way to play and Bridgeport is winning regularly through this streak – I hope this experience sticks as a learning exercise – this is how AHL experience can help build future players
but these forwards will not solve our goalscoring, but they won’t have to – I see a lot of future Islanders here helping on D & G, if not some useful Defensive forwards as well
good stuff
by Cary K on Jan 8, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
gotcha
some fun facts
Cizikas is a +8 for a team that can’t score
Rakhshani is a +6 and has only played about half the games
a snippet of play
Bridgeport continues to play hustle two way hockey – Providence has 10 shots in more than half a game
de Haan make a nice hit to separate his man from the puck, circles his net with speed to start an opposite way chance – he looks great
Providence only has 1 shot in the 2nd period most of the way through
and it was the streak breaking goal which was a decent play
the game gets slightly chippy as the second period ends
de Haan & Cizikas standing up for themselves
I really like the direction this team seems to be heading in
Rakh
first half of last year, he was looking solid esp with Bailey
on return from his concussion this year, he looked not so hot
looking better now – making good hustle plays – not quite as overwhelming as Ullstrom was earlier in the season – perhaps worth a try soon – definitely on the road back
BPT
Michael Fornabaio @fornabaioctp 1m
A de Haan shot hit the crossbar and caromed back into Rhett Rakhshani’s face. Matt Bain treating, but still at the bench. PRO kills the PPs
Michael Fornabaio @fornabaioctp 1m
Rakhshani doesn’t miss a shift.
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Balls
Michael Fornabaio @fornabaioctp 1m
Ridderwall sneaks one through Poulin at 3:37 of the second to tie the game and end the shutout streak.
Michael Fornabaio @fornabaioctp 1m
If I added correctly on the fly, 224:06 for the team, 221:54 for Poulin. Not Johnny Bower, but still.
Fun while it lasted! COngrats to Poulin and the Sound Tigers!
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Nice too
Michael Fornabaio @fornabaioctp 3m
Unofficially (as we are in Providence) the Bruins have no SOG in about 12 minutes since the goal, though Camper missed an open net on PP
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And so it goes
The Sound Tigers @TheSoundTigers 3m
de Haan dives to make a play but lands awkwardly and skates off with trainer Matt Bain. 1-1 with 16:16 to go in the third.
Tom Mascioli @islesinfo 5m
Calvin de Haan just rushed off the ice holding his shoulder close to his body & pointing to it. Did not sound good. #isles
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Bridgeport looking tired
playing shorthanded and at the end of a trip – lets see if they can hold on
Providence ties the score
on a weak defensive play by Wishart
not the first time I’ve seen him not give his all in the third period
Mouillerat
with a nice shot – one of a number of nice looking PTOs – Poulin lets one in and the game continues
Jesus appears to be in Denver today...
Michael Fornabaio @fornabaioctp 1m
As I looked to count heads as Matt Bain returned (appears w/o de Haan), Cizikas shot from the left circle goes in: 2-1 BPT with 7:57 left.
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BPT pretty sure Ridderwall kicked in the tying goal. Thompson said de Haan and Haddad (upper-body) would be evaluated tomorrow.
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Donovan, Ness
Pleasantly surprised with how easilly these two have acclimated offensively to the AHL- that’s no easy nut to crack, especially for defenseman
I’m curious how De Haan (and Donovan and Ness) are playing in their own end on a night to night basis. I’m kind of starting to rethink (again) how high of a ceiling De Haan might have although of course its early, and he’s a rookie.
Of these three, there is only really room for one, maybe two, long term on the same NHL team. It will be interesting to watch how things continue to shake out.
It wouldn’t be crazy to see all 3 of them, although I think Ness is hurt by his size.
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I would have to think they're playing pretty well
I mean, almost a 4 game shutout streak and it looks like they’re really limiting SOG against in those games. It’s a great sign!
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by Keith Quinn on Jan 8, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Im so happy for Kevin Poulin.
He is such a likeable, talented kid! :)
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by TheMetalChick on Jan 9, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Just for thought
Not to take anything away from the young players ( especially Poulin),
But I have to ask, maybe the shutout streak has something to do with Coach Thompson and his ability to coach?
maybe the shutout streak has something to do with Coach Thompson and his ability to coach
I don’t know about the shutout streak, but this sure does sound like that; from Fornabaio’s recap:
Penalty kill is up to 26-for-26, including a four-on-three-turned-five-on-three that included some good blocked shots by Cizikas and de Haan, a few good saves and good work all around.
To balance things out
During the losing streak not only was the PP not scoring, but the PK was getting killed on a regular basis.
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To his credit
Maybe he has learned what his players abilities are, and made adjustments to his PK.
How the hell did DeHaan get another injury. Wow.
Anyone who saw or know if it was the same shoulder he already got surgery on?
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Fornabaio
says it was left shoulder (link in comment above). I don’t remember which one he had injured previously…

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