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Islanders vs. Coyotes Gameday: Life without Reasoner

Of course Marty Reasoner's detractors will say there is little to miss with his absence due to a broken hand last night: He has just five assists in 35 games, is tied with Kyle Okposo and Milan Jurcina for the team low minus-16 in 11:17 per game. However, missing a competent fourth-line center actually is a loss, particularly without an immediate replacement.

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Reasoner was the team's top faceoff man at 54%, logged 1:28 of PK duty per game, and when a team is carrying teenage intern Nino Niederreiter and AHL lifer Tim Wallace, it's preferred to have a center who can skate and knows his way around both zones. Jay Pandolfo, activated off IR, is not as good a skater and not quite a center, although he can play one on TV, I suppose.

If I'm Dave Tippett, I'm eagerly watching for moments to prey on that combo should Jack Capuano put them out together. Last night Niederreiter and Wallace only got a handful of shifts after Reasoner's injury, but with this being a road back-to-back he might want to be able to use the whole bench, depending on how the game and special teams opportunities develop. I'd expect Pandolfo will get his share of PK time.

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As for beyond tonight, Brian Compton of nhl.com voices what many fans are thinking (including myself):

Pandolfo, Wallace, Rolston ... none are long-term solutions at center. Cizikas should be called up for homestand next week

For the Coyotes, Adrian Aucoin is still out with an eye injury but not a concussion. Once upon a time you'd never have dreamed the former would be a relief vs. the latter. The Coyotes are in 11th in the West, but it's a tight bubble (they're four points out of 7th) and they are always well coached by Tippett.

With all the ownership and venue turmoil Islanders fans have faced for the last 20+ years, you have to feel for Coyotes fans, whose situation looks like the Island ca. 1999. The players are gamely playing out the season, but each day brings conflicting reports in a drama that has extended for three seasons now or -- like the Islanders -- far longer, depending on which regime you place the benchmark. At 11,423 they are one of two teams (Dallas is the other, but they're recovering) with a lower average home attendance than the Islanders.

They have the building, but it's in the wrong place and they have no owner. We have an owner, but no building and perhaps no place for a new one.

NHL Realignment Postponed: League, NHLPA Preview Next 12 Months of Bullshit

Watching the league and union is like watching those two friends who are fun to hang with individually but who make an absolute melodramatic disaster as a boyfriend and girlfriend. They turn everything into an ordeal, even when obvious reasonable solutions are plain as day to outsiders. I never figured either would be stupid enough to create another work stoppage, but they're off to a helluva start to 2012. And sometimes stubbornness creates stupidity.

Speaking of melodrama, I sometimes wonder -- without hyperbole -- if 2012 will be the last year I watch pro hockey. Reactions:

At Least We Still Have Violence

Oh look, violence! Bruins vs. Canucks today, Oilers vs. Stars last night (Steve Ott, who is a tool, with the headbutt)

And protests! Not making this up: "Fans heading to the Bell Centre tonight to watch the Montreal Canadiens will be met by protesters who want the organization to be more French."

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And protests! Not making this up: “Fans heading to the Bell Centre tonight to watch the Montreal Canadiens will be met by protesters who want the organization to be more French.”

Ha! I can’t wait to fulfill my dream of moving to Montreal and basking in the pro-French insanity! I love Montreal.

Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...

by Turgeon1992 on Jan 7, 2012 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

Isles just suspended Klementyev

For failure to report to an ECHL assignment. Can’t copy and paste from mobile anymore, sorry!

NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Jan 7, 2012 4:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Was he THAT bad?

he had to go to the G&G (goons and goalies) league?

by martylnd on Jan 7, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

No worries

We got a thread for that.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jan 7, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I WILL BE THERE TONIGHT!!!

long islander in phx, let’s go isles!!!
anyone else going?
i’ll be in section 202 row G wearing my tavares “shirt” jersey (better than my satan real 1)

by brylanders on Jan 7, 2012 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

Excellent

Do chime in afterward and let us know what you see.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jan 7, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Talkin bout VIOLENCE!!!!!

Not to sure the last time I saw 5/6 guys on 1?? If I was one of them Canucks players I would be embarrased to show my face, come on FFS man up drop the gloves & go 1 on 1.

Anyway who cares about the Bruins & Canucks, lets just hope we can bounce back tonight have a good performance & take the win, so the boys have some confidence going into the games against the Red Wings on Tuesday. Lets Go ISLANDERS!!!!

by Kung Fu Panda 48 on Jan 7, 2012 5:27 PM EST reply actions  

Cizikas

call him up please please pretty please

and Pandolfo > Reasoner so no worries there

by Cary K on Jan 7, 2012 5:28 PM EST reply actions  

again...

not to be trolling you… but you suffer greatly from back-up QB syndrome.
Casey is doing well as an AHL rookie. He’s now the number one center in BPT. Let the guy get used to that with Rhett and McNeely. The job opening is for a fourth line center. Let Rolston or Pandolfo handle that(who cares about them, they’re gone next year). If anybody should get called up to replace a fourth liner it should be Haley.
Let the kid have his year… he might need two… and they might want him down there to help the 2012 wave up the middle. He may get a few games later, but why tease him now.

I've had enough! It's time to call out Garth Snow!
@JPinVA

by JPinVA on Jan 7, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Hamonic was the exception, not the rule

We can’t expect that from every one of our guys tearing up the AHL.

by sayvillelax94 on Jan 8, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I got a brand new pair of roller skates...

you got a brand new key,
I’ll give you my sole Pierre,
If you give Subban to me!

I've had enough! It's time to call out Garth Snow!
@JPinVA

by JPinVA on Jan 7, 2012 5:53 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

I have an insane hate for Subban

He just gets under my skin. Still, I would love him to be my least favourite Islanders player.

"If you have what you say you have, I’ll make you rich. If you don’t, I’ll make you into shoes" Jim Moriarty 1/1/2012

by Francesca on Jan 7, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

That saddens me...

I think PK will MATURE into one of the better defensemen in the league… He’s got a few of the tools the islander’s desperately need… and one of them is his attitude. Unfortunately that may be just the thing that turn some people off.

Is that the case?

I've had enough! It's time to call out Garth Snow!
@JPinVA

by JPinVA on Jan 7, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'd tolerate Subban if they could land him

Man, that’d be sweet.

I hope Snow is calling around, but as long as we keep our dreams in check: I don’t believe there is a GM employed ready to get rid of Subban, Bogosian or even Yandle. It’s like other teams’ fans saying, “Surely we can pry Hamonic away from Snow” or something.

D-men are so hard to identify right and draft well, once you have one you gotta go all Charleton Heston about hanging on to them.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jan 7, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It is.

The guy seems to have no respect for anyone. On the other hand sometimes I feel for him. He is only in his second NHL season and everybody expects him to be the team’s D anchor.
The press hasn’t been tender with him lately (in French):
Canoë
La Presse
You need a very thick skin to survive in Montréal.

"If you have what you say you have, I’ll make you rich. If you don’t, I’ll make you into shoes" Jim Moriarty 1/1/2012

by Francesca on Jan 7, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Subban

how great it would be if we could get him

Montreal is fucked – one more Oakland Raiders / Millwall type for us

PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN

by Cary K on Jan 7, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

No chance they trade him

Gauthier has made some controversial move, but he is not insane.

"If you have what you say you have, I’ll make you rich. If you don’t, I’ll make you into shoes" Jim Moriarty 1/1/2012

by Francesca on Jan 7, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

The Scott Go

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science

by PGI on Jan 7, 2012 7:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The Scott Gomez trade

Says otherwise.

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science

by PGI on Jan 7, 2012 7:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think that was Gainey's doing

"If you have what you say you have, I’ll make you rich. If you don’t, I’ll make you into shoes" Jim Moriarty 1/1/2012

by Francesca on Jan 7, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, that was Gainey

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jan 7, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah ha

a parting gift from the previous administration. So, we get the Habs to re-hire Gainey and boom! Subban is ours. BWAHAHAHA!

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science

by PGI on Jan 8, 2012 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

They are getting (and pandering to) a lot of pressure to be "More French"

Not to mention he might be a bit feisty for them.
I think its very possible that they trade him… but they would want a LOT, and it wouldnt be to the Isles.
If he is ever a FA though, who knows- I actually think he might like to play with JT.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Jan 7, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

As do i

I could learn to tolerate him if he were an Islander, but he just has this cockiness about him that drives me nuts. I feel like his ego is too large to be acceptable and he his a bit of a dirty/sneaky player

"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992

by Zhora on Jan 7, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

yes yes very nice

"Oh no. He's got some speed. I might have to take his legs out." Rick DiPietro shortly before the first stitch came out.

by backstop87 on Jan 7, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Considering how bad the Islanders

were treated after the Penguins brawl, tweets like these make me cringe:

EJHradek_NHL: Bruins and Canucks going old school right now. Absolutely no surprise. Plenty of bad blood. Enjoy!

So Bruins and Canucks are old school and we should enjoy the fights; but the Islanders are a bunch of goons and a disgrace for hockey in general for doing the same with the Penguins? Where’s the logic?

"If you have what you say you have, I’ll make you rich. If you don’t, I’ll make you into shoes" Jim Moriarty 1/1/2012

by Francesca on Jan 7, 2012 5:58 PM EST reply actions  

I agree...

But I don’t remember Hradek piling on, except the for the individual incidents involving Gillies. It’s guys like Button that turn my stomach.
“okay… what do you want me to talk about?”
“There were three different brawls in the Penguins game.”
“Is it good or bad?”
“they were playing the Islanders”
“Okay, I can do bad!”

I've had enough! It's time to call out Garth Snow!
@JPinVA

by JPinVA on Jan 7, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldnt try to make too much sense of it...

as an Isles fan, youre already crazy enough.

"Oh no. He's got some speed. I might have to take his legs out." Rick DiPietro shortly before the first stitch came out.

by backstop87 on Jan 7, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Arthur Staple @StapeNewsday 3m
Nabokov in goal for #Isles, Pandolfo in for Reasoner. Seven D for warmups; Capuano says a couple guys are banged up, so Reese may go.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 7, 2012 6:13 PM EST reply actions  

My guess is...

that Staios gets the night off.
Machamonic, You’re Seein’ Straight, Eatin’ Reese’s

I've had enough! It's time to call out Garth Snow!
@JPinVA

by JPinVA on Jan 7, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Capuano to [old D-men of choice]

“How you feelin’?”
>>"Great! I love playing in front of sparse crowds. Feels like home."
“Actually, you’re banged up?”
>>"What? No, I’m fi…"
“Want me to give Staple a scoop? You’re banged up.”

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jan 7, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Stat question for the powers that be...

I was wondering if the NCAA:NHL goal projection ratio of .41:1 must first be converted to an 82 game season (as oppossed to the shorter NCAA season). For example: Anders Lee has 14 g in 21 gp. Would you divide 82 by his gp, then times his g by that number, then times it by .41?
Source: http://www.behindthenet.ca/projecting_to_nhl.html

"Oh no. He's got some speed. I might have to take his legs out." Rick DiPietro shortly before the first stitch came out.

by backstop87 on Jan 7, 2012 6:44 PM EST reply actions  


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