Islanders vs. Ducks Gameday: 14th Meets 14th
by Dominik on Jan 6, 2012 7:15 AM EST
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PrintThe Islanders are about as far away as they can travel, and Dylan Reese is there to join them. That was the word from Newsday's Arthur Staple last night. Staple predicted as much, but that choice surprises me a little because the Islanders do have six healthy defensemen (as far as we know), which should mean Reese would require waivers if and when he's returned. Maybe that's a low risk.
Islanders (14-17-6, 14th/E) @ Ducks (10-22-6, 14th/W)
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We discussed this plenty yesterday, but tonight's opponent is in some kind of hell. They've replaced the coach but the players and the performance have not improved (3-9-2 under Bruce Boudreau). Their possession figures are awful, they're not a victim of much bad luck, and their GM has acknowledged a willingness to trade anybody but it's not at all clear he'd know which direction to turn. They may have some bad powerplay luck -- they generate shots but have only converted 16.2%.
Overall they get outshot by quite a bit, but that's nothing new -- just in previous seasons they've ridden top-line surges and Jonas Hiller to overcome that.
The Ducks are on a three-game losing streak to good opponents, while the Islanders are on a three-game winning streak over bad opponents. We'll see where the middle is tonight.
Of course if the Islanders want to elevate themselves into the next caste, they really need to extend that streak against tonight's bad opponent and then deal with tomorrow's in Phoenix. (No doubt the Ducks are thinking the same about ending their streak.) Quoth Parenteau earlier this week:
"No one wants to be in last place," Parenteau said after the game. "We're not looking behind right now. We've got to play a little better than that if we're going to catch these teams. But I think we have the team to do it, to get on a good ride right now."
We'll see. Two desperate teams, for slightly different reasons, trying to claw out of the land they call the lottery.
One interesting side story might be how these Pacific teams know Evgeni Nabokov, and whether Jack Capuano uses Anders Nilsson on one of these back-to-back road games.
Fun Detail from Center Ice Last Night
Watching the Kings-Coyotes game last night, legendary Kings announcer Bob Miller mentioned he was happy to see Butch Goring in the building. Miller wondered how Goring would do if they had shootouts in his day, because "he was always good at breakaways." Miller also dinged his fellow senior announcer Jiggs McDonald: "Jiggs isn't here. He's getting old, he must not go out after dark."
Good times. Miller actually filled McDonald's old role as Kings announcer way back in 1973, a year after Jiggs went to the Flames, who were in Atlanta at the time. (If you didn't know that last part, you just made me feel as old as Miller.)
- And sticking with the lighter side: This was a fun description from Snakes on the Plane of the Islanders players watching the WJC in the post-game locker room (delaying their bus) after the win in Raleigh. The Ryan Strome detail is nice.
- Okay, one more lighter side thing: John Tavares and P.K. Subban as Team Canada pups. [FanShot] Classic.
- Alright, one more: Anyone watch 24/7 or Capuano on the fishing show last night? Thought Capuano came off well, as expected. Liked Garth Snow hounding the host who wanted to wear his Bruins jersey on Coli ice.
Elsewhere in Hockey
Islanders draft pick Johan Sundstrom and his Swedish mates are gold medal winners, and boy did they ever deserve it. Cheers to them [FanShot]. They outshot Russia 58-17 overall and 42-4 after two periods. Those aren't typos. Yet still they needed OT to squeak out a 1-0 win on Mika Zibanejad's pretty backhand winner. Said their coach of resisting frustration after dominating for so long without a goal:
"It became a mental game," said Rönnberg. "It’s amazing that players who are 16 to 19 can cope with this."
No doubt.
Sundström carried significant roles on his team, and I forget to note this HF interview with himm from earlier in the tournament.
Sundström's future Islanders teammate (we can hope) Strome won bronze with Canada, who beat Finland 4-0. Strome finished with 3-6-9 and a +9 in six games, though we must take some of the lesser opponents into account with those numbers.
NHL Massacre: The Calgary Flames were destroyed by the Boston Bruins 9-0 last night. NINE to NOTHING. I don't know what to say about that, although somehow it adds context to the Islanders losing 6-0 to the Bruins earlier this season and narrowly beating the Flames at home in the last week of 2011. The Bruins' goal differential is now 138-69 for a plus 69. I don't know what to say about that either, except it's insane.
- Meanwhile: What to do with the repeat offenders? | Backhand Shelf
- And can we quantify this: Sabermetric Research: Do NHL referees call "make up" penalties?
- We can certainly try to quantify this: A thorough look at which NHL players have the most "beerability" | Backhand Shelf Of course Bill "McNulty" Guerin gets a mention there, as we've heard some of those tales from Bourne before. But Guerin's no longer an NHLer, so Bourne picks 10 current ones. On the Isles I'd pick P.A. Parenteau, just to see how easy it is to wind up the fiery Frenchman.
- Brian Burke doesn't like things. Don't show him no data. Is Hitting Leaving The Game? - Pension Plan Puppets
- Darren Dreger's always good copy (or...voice?) and he chats with Chris Botta about the league trade landscape, which is very barren.
- Great list from Mike Hume: 24/7: Episode 4 Winners and Losers - ESPN New York
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Leave your First Islanders Goal picks in this thread. The game is at 10 p.m. EST tonight, which stinks for many of you but is actually convenient for some of our farflung readers. You gonna catch it, or are you going to just catch the highlights and let us make up what happened for you?
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What's funny is
after seeing that Nail interview, sure seems like Russia wasn’t there mentally after beating Canada. Guess that was the big game for them-too bad it was the semis…
WJC is awesome...
…and possibly the best hockey(most drama) you’re gonna get on TV in DEC-JAN. As much as the winter classic was fun to watch on 24/7, the game itself would have been more dramatic if the game was against rivals that didn’t see each other 6 times a year.
My WC formats:
1. RELOCATION. The next one should be in Quebec. The Isles v Phoenix, WINNer STAYS!
2. SCF rematch… wouldn’t BOS v VAN have been a better game… and earned by more than a weasely debate in the NHL Marketing office.
3. There has got to be a better venue where fans can be closer than 50 yards from the action. So.. in 2016 I’d just peel the roof off the coliseum and have them host it there every year. Islanders v Rangers.
4. To me, a winter classic is “It’s A Wonderful Life”… The Rangers (Potter) v the Islanders (Bailey’s) make for the perfect setting. When Mr Potter buys the Newspaper that covers the Bailey’s, he finds out that Uncle Kumar left $200M in receivables in flux so that Mr Bailey’s golden parachute would kick in and he could keep the Building and Loan afloat. Even though that accounting error is never rectified (Uncle Kumar goes to jail) Mr Bailey finds that he has enough friends on Long Island to keep his dream of creating a nassau county hub. Most of the 24/7 would be a reflection on what would have happened if Wang had not bought the Islanders… and having Dolanville in the center of Nassau county. Josh Bailey gets drafted by the Penguins and becomes a douchebag. Tavares goes to toronto and is now involved in a paternity suit. Scott gordon is still at Providence… waiting for a head coaching job. Ted Nolan has written his second book on Racism in the NHL… and rick Dipietro is a checkout clerk in Massachusetts A&P.
I've had enough! It's time to call out Garth Snow!
@JPinVA
by JPinVA on Jan 6, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm speechless as usual...
Recommended!
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
"You gonna catch it, or are you going to just catch the highlights and let us make up what happened for you?"u
Well, some of us don’t have a choice. I’m hoping the bar i go to has (A) FiOS and (B) a sympathetic bartender who will put the game on a small screen for me. But it’s Manhattan so I’m not holding my breath.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jan 6, 2012 7:41 AM EST reply actions
I meant to put in some sort of pithy yet sympathetic nod to the TWC customers
But I ran out of pith.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Today's the last game I need a stream.
Going back to NY and installing my slingbox on a family TV. Then I get MSG+++++ like the rest of you!
I'm a mets, jets, islander, and terps fan. Also known as a glutton for perennial punishment.
Some insane stuff last night
The WJC Final was amazing, even with a 0 – 0 game until the end. Sundstrom looks like a very solid 2 way player who was given the top line center role with Imadinnerjacket. He had a few opportunities and made some excellent plays.
Boston is scary good. 15 – 1 over last two opponents on scoring. Makes losing 6 – 0 not feel so bad anymore. It was just goal after goal after goal in that one. They are like 23 – 3 – ? since there hectic little start. Definitely a team that has a chance at back to back cups if they do not lose steam.
Another need win over a weak opponent tonight if we are to get back to 500 hockey. We have 3 games in hand and we could surely use those 3 games to get back to 500 hockey by 40 games. Difficult yes, impossible no. Wouldn’t it be nice……
That was brutal to watch
The thing is that Irving really had almost no chance on any of them. The Bruins just made him look like some ECHL reject. Kipper fared somewhat better, but I think it must have been because Boston’s forwards all had tired arms from all the shooting and then holding their arms straight up afterward.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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That kid Butler that JT burned
was a -7 in that game…poor kid.
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I blame JT: He shattered his confidence
Of course, I also credit the Islanders for turning the Bruins’ season around…
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Something to remember about that final game in the WJC.
The Russian goalie, Marakov, deserves high marks for how he fended off 57 shots while his team looked lost for much of the game.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
I'll tell ya, I would love to go fishing with Cappy over a couple of Cohiba's...
His laid backness is good for a guy to hang out with…I’m not sure that’s so good for coaching, tho…They tried to show some clips of Cappy being animated which showed he really is not….Cappy being his most animated is like Torts being his most relaxed, lol…
No Offense...
but the host is a hack.
1. I don’t fish much, but the first time he jumped on the boat while hissy fitting I’d have had him sleepin’ with those fishes.
2. Very little “Jack” content. Jack has a pretty cool history as a player and a coach… all this guy could come up with were pictures on his wall. Hell, I could post more content from my kitchen.
3. The whole, “I’m a boston guy” thing was irritating at best. Yeah, we get it, you’re from Boston, but that, amazingly, is the least of your flaws.
4. You too could be a guest on No Offense… just fill out a card and send it in. I’m pretty sure this is one of the original kids from ZOOM trying to get off a crystal meth addiction.
I've had enough! It's time to call out Garth Snow!
@JPinVA
by JPinVA on Jan 6, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, and I found Cappy to be Electric Company for the host
How about that spread Cappy put together- about 20 cheeseburgers and a whole host of other foodstuffs for what appeared to be himself and 2 guests. I guess the light beer offset the high caloric intake.
LOL
In all fairness I think he was feeding the family and the production crew, as well.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Jan 6, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
A fishing show...
where they are grilling burgers from a box. It seemed like they showed up the day before and said who’s the biggest celeb in NE that would go on this show…. after 1500 phone calls… they get to Jack.
Who does an outdoor’s show and states, “I’m not really a morning person”.
You know why he’s not a morning person… because crack is hard to find while McDonalds has $1 egg McMuffins. that’s why you don’t usually see the dealers on the corners util after 10:AM.
I’m guessing this show becomes a classic… because much like borat, once people start to see the idiot host, they will just decline. If the Isles weren’t so desperate for PR they’d have asked to see a pilot.
I've had enough! It's time to call out Garth Snow!
@JPinVA
Burgers from a box
and Pizza Hut pizza. C’mon Jack. No real Italian would eat that*. Make your own.
- - This is a lie. I have eaten way more than my share of that stuff.
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by PGI on Jan 6, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Italians don't order from Pizza Hut...
unless a guy shows up at your doorstep at 8:PM and expects you to feed him, and his production crew.
I bet there are a few “WTF” stories that come out of that taping eventually. It was from over the summer, so i guess they’ve already been circulated. Possibly some more fodder for FISHSTICKS II:The Snow-pire Strikes Back
I've had enough! It's time to call out Garth Snow!
@JPinVA
I'm Irish
And I don’t order from Pizza Hut.
I think it’s fair to say Cappy didn’t order that, and Pizza Hut paid to have that in there.
And how does a grown man have the haircut that host has? That haircut is for 8 year olds.
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 6, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
the catholic church
When people ask me what I think of the catholic church this is what I tell them. (as a retired catholic)
The catholic church was formed so Irish people could meet people who can cook. The rest is all a load of BS.
I've had enough! It's time to call out Garth Snow!
@JPinVA
Cut Cappy a little slack on the Hut
Perhaps I’m ignorant, since I’ve never taken a culinary tour of “greater Bangor”, but I’m surmising that maybe when it comes to pizza, the Hut may actually be ones’ best option up there.
No slack for someone from Cranston, RI
According to Wikipedia:
Over 30% of Cranston’s residents describe themselves as Italian American, one of the highest percentages of this ethnic group in cities with over 50,000 residents in the United States.
You grow up like that, you find a pizza place befitting your heritage.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Jan 6, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
We'll know Cappy isn't really paisan
when we see him in Olive Garden
by 4PeatSake on Jan 6, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Disgrazia!
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Jan 6, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
there is simply no end
to the things that I learn here at LHH. But how far is Cranston from Bangor?
Yes simply no end.............
KEEPER:What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
ARTHUR: What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Jan 6, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Not relevant
The choice between having Pizza Hut pizza or having no pizza ain’t no choice at all.
But I ain’t no madman either.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
Seriously
there is simply no end to the things that I learn here at LHH.
Keeping me in stitches and obscure lessons.
I admit I found myself perplexed by how that show exists. The host sounds like someone I’d kick into the water if I were fishing. But really happy to see Capuano in his element. And now we know the teeth are his go-to gag, apparently.
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even i make my own
albeit it’s dough and sauce bought from shoprite lol
it’s still better than pizza slut
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I think you're being a little tough on the guy....
at least he’s hustling…
I hope the neighbors
and those 2 poodles also were fed…that was some spread. Looked like a Weber B grill with the silver finish. Shweet.
I liked his show "Beat Charlie Moore"...Being a Boston sycophant is his schtick...
His hissy fitting is him just fucking around…On the other hand his old show was better, I think…
Dom
Staple predicted as much, but that choice surprises me a little because the Islanders do have six healthy defensemen (as far as we know), which should mean Reese would require waivers if and when he’s returned. Maybe that’s a low risk.
Maybe the Isles don’t plan on waiving Reese any longer and maybe Mottau gets waived when he’s off IR.
Is there risk with Mottau getting waived? Not as much I would suspect.
Just a thought. The Isles can do that yes?
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Mottau
I didn’t realize he was injured, I thought that Staios, Eaton and Jurcina have just outplayed him so he was a healthy scratch.
Most likely Reese is brought in to be the 7 guy on back to backs with guys like Staios and Eaton not being in the best of health. Hopefully this means that Katic is near returning to BPT.
I've had enough! It's time to call out Garth Snow!
@JPinVA
He was healthy scratched first
Then injured en route to Raleigh or something. Maybe Raleigh is where the Islanders “know a guy” who takes care of little problems?
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by Dominik on Jan 6, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting Scheduling...
last year I was at the Nashville game, right before the ANA game that started the 12/16/10 turnaround. I’ll stand on being at the devils game on 11/25/11 when the most recent turn around took place (They have 20 pts in 18 games since them, they had 14 pts in 19 games before that). If roster changes start happening I will hopefully have been at another pre-Anaheim game where things will start getting even better. A 20 point month sure would be nice. The best we’ve seen so far in the rebuild is the 18 points last march (15 games). This month has potential if the roster gets an upgrade.
I've had enough! It's time to call out Garth Snow!
@JPinVA
My uncle's just a cab driver now, okay?
Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.
Yes
I hope this is the case. Really I don’t care who they waive, so long as Reese stays. He’s earned that much over the crud.
Place your bets on who's headed to the waiver wire...
According to capgeek.com, Mottau’s cap hit is $800,000 while Dylan Reese’s is $635,250. So those are essentially identical cap hits. Both also have contracts that expire at the end of this year (both will be UFAs).
There are some essential questions, I think: (1) do Snow/Capuano finally feel Reese is an upgrade over Mottau, (2) if the answer to the first question is no, does Snow feel Reese would clear waivers OR is Reese not in Snow’s long term plans thereby making it irrelevant (in Snow’s mind) whether Reese gets claimed off waivers?
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Bye Bye Mottau
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 6, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
It would be a crazy bad move to risk putting Reese through waivers
I know he is just a depth d-man, but he’s been pretty good. If they try to sneak him through waivers I’m thinking he ends up Tampa’s depth d-man, or somewhere else. That would just be stupid asset management.
And we don’t do that, right?
by CloseCallJiggs on Jan 6, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Tossing Comeau for nothing was a head scratcher...
and that’s what i’m referring to here. In general he has done a good job. But now we have a precedent for him putting players through waivers that will not clear. I hope it does not become a pattern.
by CloseCallJiggs on Jan 7, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
From Skates on a plane. re: Neutral Americans watching the game with the Canadian players:
Doug Weight: "Does Anyone know who led this tournament in scoring in 1991?".
by Les Beaver on Jan 6, 2012 9:01 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
The Calgary Flames were destroyed by the Boston Bruins 9-0 last night.
What’s crazy is they just hung an 8-0 loss on the Panthers two weeks ago, and have wins of 6-0 (Isles, Flyers) and 7-0 (Leafs) as well. It’s their world right now.
The road to the Eastern Conference Championship...
goes through Boston.
I've had enough! It's time to call out Garth Snow!
@JPinVA
by JPinVA on Jan 6, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A good 9-0 drubbing at least shut up some massholes.
‘round here everyone and their mother’s sporting tacky gold and black bruin garb and yapping about the squad. I’m surrounded by massholes.
by Jones79 on Jan 6, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Keep firing, Massholes!
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Jan 6, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Bruins are apparently much better shots than the Massholes
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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The Bruins have gone to plaid
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Jan 6, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
and a 6-1 win over NJ
the night before this 9-0… impressive
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That Swedish team was pretty amazing
Huge, I mean I’m talking HUGE {channeling the Donald} , save by the Swedish goalie with 30 seconds left in the third.
STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jan 6, 2012 9:18 AM EST reply actions
how much would that have sucked
To completely dominate the whole game and then get beat in the last minute of regulation on a golden chance from the other team?
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Pierre McGuire would say
“Goaltending is about timely saves. That Swede gets that.”
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I wonder if, in Pierre's mind, the key to winning hockey games is...
“timely goals. The Swedes get that.”
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
by Turgeon1992 on Jan 6, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In Pierre's mind it's
HEY EDZO, HE GETS IT! TIMELY SAVES AT THE RIGHT TIME! THIS SWEDE IS A MAWNSTER!!
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by PGI on Jan 6, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Imagine Pierre interviewing Gustafsson...
Pierre stands creepily close
P: “How amazing was it to win the gold at the World Juniors?”
G: “It waz feeling of lifetime…”
P: “Can I lick you? Just a quick taste of your greatness.”
Pierre looks longingly at Gustafsson as security escorts him to his box between the benches
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
I'm a day late on this topic
As MarkD posted a very good piece on this yesterday, but has anyone else heard the rumor that the reason RDP hasn’t hung’em up yet is that he took steroids (either pre-injury, or while trying to recover from injury) which weakened his muscles and joints, and that is why he’s been even more brittle these days?
The reason why it’s (potentially) relevant is that if he retires due to legitimate injuries, insurance will cover the rest of his contract, but if in investigating, the insurance company finds that he was juicing and that it might have contributed to his injuries, they will not pay out and his contract will be void..
Not to spread potentially unfounded rumors on the web (too late), or kick RDP further while he’s down (too late) but was wondering if anyone else had heard that as well, or whether it’s simply a load of poppycock.
by SchneiderDiricov on Jan 6, 2012 10:12 AM EST reply actions
Steriods
aren’t exactly uncommon when one is recovering from serious injury. But I don’t think a goalie in the prime of his career would be using steroids, Can’t think of an advantage to it.
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There was that thing Milbury said
about him coming into camp hugely bulked up prior to the injuries…but I would assume that since there was never anything linking him to steroids then, it may not come up now.
But yes, that type of body degeneration is a symptom of steroid use…but also of playing pro sports in general.
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Wouldn't it depend on the type of steroid?
HGH use is banned in many sports, but, like you said, steroid use in recovery is common enough. Asthma inhalers are filled with a steroid, but I doubt it is the illegal kind.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...
the thing that makes them legal or not isn't really the type of steroid
It’s whether or not you have a valid prescription from a doctor, treating a specific illness or condition. People were saying “it’s not against the rules” while willfully overlooking that most of the steroids were illegally gotten through flim-flam docs or shady “personal trainers” and “nutritionists” etc etc.
You can see pretty easily that the reverse is going to be the new issue: people claiming “The doctor prescribed that for my chillblains!” when the league’s rules prohibit using them. And there’s always the hardy perennial, “Tainted supplements!” which would make a pretty good band name.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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"Prime of his career"
is a bit of a stretch, which to me, makes the possibility of steroids not such a stretch.
Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.
Here's a video of the Swedish play-by-play of Zibanejad's goal. Pure awesomeness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG07HgFAfEE&feature=player_embedded#!
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fantastic
Even the exclamation points had umlauts.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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The elation in that play by play
rivals that of some spanish soccer announcers. Their shit doth been lost
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Has this been talked about here?
I took this from hockeyfights.com.
"Yeah. Its the first time ive seen the islanders ever come out of the tunnel at the coliseum. The refs have to use the tunnel now cause of “questionable calls” the past few games. Thats what the usher told us. But we were aloud to chill by the islanders bench."
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 6, 2012 10:27 AM EST reply actions
I meant to post something
about this after I went to the game against Toronto last month. I’d never seen the cover over the home entrance, but I thought with the Isles’ play the past few years it was definitely possible that there was a need for it…
Refs makes more sense, but that’s pretty weak on the fans’ part if that’s the case.
I asked my Ticket Rep. about the tunnel canopy
he told me that a new rule the NHL instituted this year is that whatever tunnel the refs use to come out onto the ice HAS to have a protective canopy. ALL teams are required to have it for the refs’ protection. (Was there an incident last year where a ref got struck by an object thrown from the stands?) The Islanders didn’t use the canopy until November because it took that long for them to order it and receive it.
Anyway, my ticket rep. added that he’s been getting a lot of grief from the season ticket holders who sit in section 118X and no longer have the privilege of hi-fiving the players as they enter or exit the ice. (And that’s a paid-for privilege as those seats ain’t cheap, kids.)
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by Captdallas on Jan 6, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting
Wonder if they’ll figure out a way to switch the refs to the other tunnel at some point because of that.
Last season the refs came onto the ice from the other tunnel
The visitor’s tunnel at the Coliseum already has a canopy. Hence, the reason why the Isles had to order a new one.
For whatever reason, the refs dressing room got moved during the offseason.
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Weird they would pass this rule this year
The year their officials have had more questions about their calls then ever before.
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 6, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
118x
Used to be my dad’s seats. Row A Seats 2 & 3.
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by JW1970 on Jan 6, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice seats!
A solution!! Move the ref’s dressing room back to where it was. Or convert a broom closet or something. It’s not like they are going to call the game any better because we give them nice accommodations.
by CloseCallJiggs on Jan 6, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Sit them next to the visiting back-up goaltender.
by Hockey1919 on Jan 6, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
am i the only one upset
That the visiting goalies have been using the bench as of late? I always thought it was pretty bad ass that we made them sit in the runway, sort of an intimidation tactic and clear “not welcome” message
by CostiganR on Jan 6, 2012 2:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You're not the only one
My oldest daughter doesn’t understand why the Isles don’t force the visiting goalie to sit in the runway.
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Ack!
I hadn’t noticed that. Consider me upset, too. I love having the backup sit in timeout.
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Duck Sauce
If the Ducks all have price tags, i hope Snow is at least window shopping.
Pick one from column A (Sbisa) and one from column B (Beauchemin)
each entree comes with a Matt Clark or an egg roll.
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by JPinVA on Jan 6, 2012 12:03 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
did someone say Duck Sauce?...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFLUOQq2j30
(sorry, i couldn’t resist)
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by gukid17 on Jan 6, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
New Anaheim promotion
First five lucky opponents to score on the Ducks get to take home one of the players!
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Apple TV Users!!
Did the NHL just get on Apple TV? When did this happen? I’ve had it for almost a year and this is the first I’m seeing it. Holy crap! I may be able to watch games again!! (sorry, Chris King)
by barry_hal_oliver_24 on Jan 6, 2012 1:18 PM EST reply actions
Gamecenter
I have a Gamecenter subscription and can watch through Google TV, but I know that is a little different.
But like Les said, you most likely need to pay.
I know if you click it, you can get scores and whatnot. But not video, i don't think.
Certainly not live games, anyway.
I have apple tv
I hardly ever use it, but I will have to check this out. Would this imply that I could get all the games from around the league, because that would be sweet.
by CloseCallJiggs on Jan 6, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
If you have to sign up for Gamecenter
then yes, you can get any game – home or away broadcast (as long as it’s not on local tv and blacked out)
What does Apple TV entail?
I’m probably in the market for an OS upgrade or a new CPU.
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I love it.
We use it for Netflix streaming, and also, it will play anything from iTunes, so if you buy, rent or burn DVDs and then load them into iTunes, you can watch on a regular TV. It also streams music and photos. We use it all the time in my house. As much as cable at this point.
Graci
I would like to simplify things, but usually that requires a little time … and then another Islanders game comes on.
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Are you trying to say "Grazie"?
Well don’t do it, cause it hurts my ears when you do it.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
Ha, awesome.
Well done.
(Full disclosure: I was trying to say “gracias” but carelessness and a phone call made me speed through.)
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On Reese
Now that Mottau is on IR retroactive to 12/30, Reese becomes an emergency call-up again and is not subject to waivers upon demotion when Mottau returns from IR. Again, he can stay as long as someone else is injured in the meantime.
So, the scenarios line up as
Mottau returns, Reese goes back.
Someone else is injured, Mottau returns, Reese stays.
Mottau never returns, Reese stays
Either way, no longer a waiver problem. Just saying here, this season, the Islanders injuries seem awfully convenient with regards to roster management. I can’t help but wonder if there is some creative waiver/injury/cap floor roster management going on. The concussion rule may in fact be helping (allowing them to manipulate) the situation because really, all you’d need to say (it sounds like) is “he doesn’t feel right” or “is experiencing concussion like symptoms” (which is what really? A headache, some nausea?) in order to IR a guy.
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Wait
Isn’t there a 30 day limit on emergency callups?
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There may be
but I thought we established that if another injury happens, the player can stay because it’s a new emergency? So maybe I’m partially wrong here.
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They may have to do a paper transaction but I think you are right
No Sleep 'til....We Find Some Secondary Scoring
oh yea, I’m just saying if Mottau goes on IR or is out for over 30 days, I believe Reese would have to clear waivers after 30 days to stay up
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A hangover...
Concussion like if I recall. You can IR a guy retroactively to the morning after he went on a drinking binge.
by CloseCallJiggs on Jan 6, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think historically
hangover=flu, but yeah, nice to have options.
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Concussion-like symptoms is the new flu!
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Wait, where is that from?
How can be an emergency callup when Mottau’s injury does not drop them below six defensemen?
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Same lineup for #Isles tonight vs. Ducks. Nabokov in goal, Pandolfo and Reese scratches. “No need to change now,” Capuano says.
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precautionary filling the scratch role?
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West coast back-to-back insurance
And I believe also: What they didn’t do last time they went West (last season).
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No one counts Mark Eaton in anything. So there you go.
“Well now we have 5 D-Men – "
“Six with Eaton….”
“….Well now we have 5 D-Men….”
’Ah…right."
by Les Beaver on Jan 6, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That was what I was wondering earlier, myself.
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by TheMetalChick on Jan 6, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
This is a thing of beauty
Capgeek’s Trade Deadline Tracker looks at the amount of salary a team can add or subtract now, and at the trade deadline.
As it turns out, the Isles COULD shed 4.85 million this second and not have a problem…by the deadline, that number rises to 11.15 million.
Cue JPinVa rant in 3,2,1….
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Beautiful and Frightening
The Bruins could take on over $13 mil in salary at the deadline. That’s like, half the Islanders entire roster.
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by PGI on Jan 6, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
No rant...
but DP is making $4.5M, right?
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Yep
at the deadline, you could effectively waive DP, Rolston and Staios…if you wanted to. Or, keep DP in pressbox and take out Eaton, Staios, Mottau, Rolston, Pandolfo and Reasoner.
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Too easy
and take out
and by takeout you are not implying high powered rifle, just lineup change correct?
Let's look at this objectively
Dipietro: Most likely not going anywhere without a lawyer, an agent and a suitcase full of unmarked bills being involved.
Pandolfo: Hockey career essentially ended in November of 2011.
Mottau: Islander career, maybe hockey career ended in December of 2011.
Reasoner: I haven’t given up on him yet. He’s been an effective 4th liner with Martin and Wallace… and will most likely improve with the rising tide. Not ready for casey or Colliton just yet.
eaton: has not earned ex-isle status yet. Somewhat effective 6-7 D.
Staios: i have little issue with Staios. Until they find somebody better, I can’t see any reason to waive him. Him or eaton probably get press boxed when they they give reese, deHaan or donovan games in the second half… but there is no call for waiving either one just yet.
Rolston: Cap Mule… they are stuck with the $5M no matter what they do. They get the cap hit where ever he is, and nobody in their right minds will claim him. But this would totally free them if they had any reservations brought on by their own fascination with him… they can pretty much waive him at will. Why would this be important. When Ullstrom comes back Wallace or Nino would be the odd man out. Now that allows them to make BR the odd man out, and have a second line that consists of Ullstrom-Bailey-Martin, with Wallace-Reasoner-Nino on the fourth line.
And if nobody gets picked up off waivers, Bridgeport gets a shit load of devil droppings.
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Can't believe I forgot the Rolston thing
but really, all I was doing was giving everyone on the scapewagon a ride around the block. Now people can discuss the possibilities of their least favorite player being waived and curse and scream at Snowang when it doesn’t happen!
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Does this mean we can drop the "Nino is only here for the cap floor" meme?
And replace it with, “The Islanders really (over?)value having their top prospects under their roof” instead?
That’s always been my theory, anyway. I don’t think Nino’s about money or bonuses as much as he is about them thinking they know better what’s best for him. De Haan lasting so late in camp both junior years, Strome getting a one-week internship — they’re like worried, clingy mothers.
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by Dominik on Jan 6, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Kung fu panda 48
I’ll be watching hoping for a 4th straight win & some more magical play from JT!!!!!!! Even though it’s not starting till 3.00am here let’s go islanders!!!!
by Kung Fu Panda 48 on Jan 6, 2012 3:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Bravo, Fu
Bravo.
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Umm, Brian Burke, you do realize you employ Dion Phaneuf, right?
“I see guys that run around and start stuff and won’t back it up and it makes me sick to my stomach.”
Open season in Anaheim
I get the feeling Garth will not make a trade unless he’s guaranteed to come out on top. I realize that seems obvious, but what I mean is, every once in a while a good GM will stick his neck out a tiny bit. You could argue that he’s already done that with some of his signings (Streit, Okposo), but I’d like to see him target a player that could bring some credibility to the club. I’m not asking for a roster shakeup ala Paul Holmgren, but I wouldnt mind giving up some of our talent.
"Oh no. He's got some speed. I might have to take his legs out." Rick DiPietro shortly before the first stitch came out.
You know, that's a valid point
Part of being a great GM is making trades that seem even, but in which you come out on top. In order to do that, you have to take a bit of a risk now and then.
I think he’s definitely shown that he can do a fairly good job signing guys and picking sloppy seconds off the wire, but I can’t recall any real bold trades since Smyth where he really was aggressive – and hell, if Smyth stuck around that would have gone down as one of the great steals, because I don’t think anything we gave up became much of anything.
At a certain point he’s gotta man up and make some deals. IMO you can’t build solely on drafting and signing. Every now and again you’ve to evaluate your talent and trade some pieces that others find useful to get something useful in return.
by SchneiderDiricov on Jan 6, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Plus
If we’ve got this great deep system that everyone keeps talking about, maybe it’s ok to start taking a chance and moving some of the young kids when teams like the Ducks are selling. Odds are they won’t ALL pan out, so it’s really a crapshoot anyway.
There is a certain amount of skill in hashing out which AHL/Junior prospects will pan out (mixed with some luck). Let’s see if Garth has it.
by SchneiderDiricov on Jan 6, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Knack for identifying talents
Morrows crew seems to have it. It’s interesting that Snow seems to be the polar opposite of Milbury (sticking to his prospects, hesitant to trade, very introverted). I understand how difficult Garths job has been, as Milbury left him with NOTHING…a team of B level prospects and has-beens. I’m sure thats why he’s taken this approach, in order to build something solid. But now we have our core more or less, and like you said: “you can’t build solely on drafting and signing.”
"Oh no. He's got some speed. I might have to take his legs out." Rick DiPietro shortly before the first stitch came out.
Could be okay
To me, the strength of a “deep” system is multiple options that might implode. Insurance by quantity, if you will.
If they feel confident that a prospect won’t pan out like R. Nilsson, O’Marra, Niemi, then it’s time to deal. But my fear is they don’t know which are the prized pieces yet, or rather: they might deal the wrong prospects, keep the wrong ones.
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I'll be at the game tonight!!
I’ll do my best to give an in-person recap tomorrow. So stoked for this game! I’ve got my jersey all ready to go, now I just have to brave the traffic from LA to Anaheim.
Excellent.
Looking forward to the report.
I believe KHAAAAAAAAAAN is looking to go, if I read him right above.
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DAMN!
stupid west coast and stupid graveyard shift! i might be able to watch 10 mins!
This is such BULLSHIT
I get multiple emails from MS fucking G Network about viewing parties for various games (for all us poor TWfuckingC schleps). First email was about where to go to watch the Knicks along with free food n prize giveaways. Next email was for viewing the Blueshits. Next email the Devils. Lo and behold I see a FOURTH email from them in my inbox. Think it was about where to view Isles? WRONG, WRONG, WRONG says Dennis Hopper!! It’s a summation of where the Knick, Rag, and Dev viewing parties are…
/slaps own redheaded stepchild
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
by Bryan2112 on Jan 6, 2012 6:49 PM EST via Android app reply actions 1 recs
Wow
Just … wow.
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write back to them and complain.
They wont change this unless people say something.
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by TheMetalChick on Jan 7, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Blake Comeau
“The Calgary Flames were destroyed by the Boston Bruins 9-0 last night.”
Wow, any team that can shut down the powerhouse that is Blake Comeau is Stanley Cup bound. How I miss his wandering.
How the hell did Rangers/Pens
get bounced to MSG +2?
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its the replay right?
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by TheMetalChick on Jan 7, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
No
it was live. Knicks were on MSG, Devils on MSG2
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Yeah- when I saw this last night I thought it was on the GDT. :)
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by TheMetalChick on Jan 7, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
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1979-80
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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.
The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.
1980-81
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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.
Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.
1981-82
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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.
A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.
1982-83
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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.
Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.
