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Islanders Bits: Calvin de Haan All-Star; Kyle Okposo, Tavares driver?

AHL All-Star Game: Another step?

With an actual mini-gap in the otherwise methodical (non-holiday) march of Islanders games, there's a chance for the obsessed fan to drop fiery fourth-line debates for a moment and take a look around the league. From the persistent stream of suspensions to all of the Ducks up for sale, there's a lot going on.

But there's some Islanders news first. Whatever he will become when fully operational, Calvin de Haan is indeed taking steps, and the latest was his getting the nod for the AHL All-Star Game.

He's the only Sound Tiger to be named (David Ullstrom is both in the NHL and concussed), and it's not the biggest of deals -- he follows in the recent footsteps of Andrew MacDonald, Dustin Kohn and lifetime achievement Mark Wotton -- but it's surely not bad news.

Sound Tigers video of de Haan discussing the honor is below, along with a whole host of other topics:

Star-divide


I know I do not possess the urgency that many fans share for De-Apocalypse Now, but I confess cases like de Haan and Nino Niederreiter and the rest of the Restore the Cupboard for the Rebuild gang fascinate me.

Some things you do by accident end up looking genius. Some things you do with the best intentions blow up in your face. I don't think CDH or Nino should fall into either of those categories (though some of their later round contemporaries will), but they are big, interesting pieces to how the post-2008 direction of this franchise will one day be judged.

John Tavares' Breakout: An Okposo Effect?

I am among many who have observed John Tavares hitting another level in skating, stability and control of play all season long. So I don't share the same view of how much Kyle Okposo moving to his line has been responsible for the recent surge. I do, however, subscribe to the general theory behind the move, which Arthur Staple describes and credits like so:

Tavares has become much more bullish below the hash marks during the last week, making a strong play with the puck around and behind the net on just about every shift. Okposo and Moulson have been reading Tavares' moves and helping create space for their playmaker.

It's a fun, timeless hockey discussion topic. I know one of the reasons I've been open to seeing P.A. Parenteau elsewhere is not because he's not "true top six" or some such nonsense, but because his puck carrying is something Tavares has increasingly shown the ability to do. I've seen Tavares get and generate chances all season long though, so I'm not ready to credit the past week or so to Okposo -- and yet I liked the move, if that makes sense.

On that note, I've seen Parenteau the same way Capuano professes to in the same Newsday article (emphasis mine):

"It's not a knock against P.A. -- he's like a utility guy for me, I can put him anywhere and he'll play his game," Capuano said. "Kyle just gave those guys a big body to work with."

Indeed, Parenteau can play with Tavares and lead the team in points, or play on another line and provide a little more balance and puck possession to proceedings. That's the theory anyway.

Kevin Poulin, 2012's Early Mr. Zero

The Sound Tigers recorded back-to-back shutouts for the first time in six years, Michael Fornabaio reports in his live blog of last night's game. Against two pretty good teams, too. His game article is here. Brent Thompson praised Micheal Haley and Dylan Reese, among others.

Here's Fornabaio's 2011 trivia answers.

Speaking of Poulin, Bridgeport, and Benn Olsen, I'm not sure what to make of this.

NHL Suspension Brigade

Brendan Shanahan's performance has generally been a refreshing 180 to the stealth, self-assured surrealism that "Heckuva Job, Colie" Campbell put us through for far too long. That said, the last week has puzzled me.

Repeat headhunter Raffi Torres got two games for what was essentially a successive accumulation of dumb acts in three consecutive games (why was the repeat offender merely fined after incident two?). Yet first-time offender Ian Cole got three games for a blueline shoulder check to the head where Shanahan's explanation all but absolved him of ill intent and poor form, and there was no lasting injury on the play. Then Rene Bourque gets five games as a repeat offender with an elbow to the head, while constant offender Daniel Carcillo got seven games for a grotesquely careless hit that could have injured Tom Gilbert in four different ways (neck, head, shoulder, ankle) but fortunately only took one.

Seven games is pretty severe by Shanahan standards, but given Carcillo's history of treachery, I think bigger statements are called for. Obviously some Oilers followers share that view.

The celebration for Lars Eller's hat trick (he would score a fourth) featured an interesting non-hat. Keep an eye on the Dane Eller, who Canadiens fans once cried over when he was the chief return for Jaroslav Halak.

If You're An Idiot, Please Be An Idiot on Facebook Too

Suppose you are an idiot Flyers fan with violent tendencies who jumped Rangers fans at the Winter Classic. And suppose you brag about it, then backtrack. Either way, you're a disgrace.

While we joke about "kick a Ranger" around here, I hope readers know it is in the most sports-don't-matter absurd jesting spirit, like a South Park "don't kick the baby" routine. If it's not clear, the official LHH policy does not advocate violence for the specific reason that someone else roots for a team that wears different laundry than yours.

World Junior Championship

The medal games are today, with Russia facing Sweden (and Johan Sundstrom) for the gold while Canada is left to fight Finland for bronze. People are still ticked about Yevgeni Kuznetsov, the Capitals prospect. Japers' Rink takes it here.

John Tortorella Fined

Torts was fined a whopping $30,000 for his pretty silly (if sarcastic) Winter Classic post-game remarks. He didn't leave the NHL much choice, although his apology was good and well-founded. You can see his whole post-game presser here (for context...it wasn't exactly a rant). His apology:

"I tainted the Classic with my mouth. It was wrong with my sarcasm and frustration and I apologize to everyone involved….Not for a second, in no way, time, shape or form did I think anything like that goes on with our league, or ever will. For me to question the integrity of the league, the integrity of NBC, the integrity of Denny and Ian, the Flyers, the Rangers, go right on through all the people here – there’s not a chance I am thinking that way."

It might look so in print, but the apology did not sound at all canned -- quite sincere, in fact.

The Oilers on Ales Hemsky

I just find this pretty wild, a coach almost paving the way for a pending UFA and popular player to be run out:

"I have to play him with the manpower situation what it is and his skill level being what it is. He’s got the ability to turn a game around in a moment’s notice. I’ll continue to play him until somebody tells me not to or I get to the point where I think there has to be a change of scenery and I’m not to that point," said Renney.

Ducks for Sale, Ducks for Sale

Bob Murray in Anaheim kind of said all his players except the veteran NMCs are on the market. Much more elaboration here, where he goes into the many disappointments he has with his team:

"I still believe we have some core players. Now whether we have to change a few core players, so be it. They're deciding who's staying and who's not staying at this point. They're the ones deciding."

The scary thing is by possession the Ducks really are awful -- and not suffering from poor luck or percentages that would make you think they're due for a significant turn. Worse, they were bad last year and the year before, too, and pretty much overperformed in previous seasons. The Ducks are the Isles' next opponent (Friday), so it should be fun to face a team embroiled in the CLUB IN CRISIS meme. (Sorry, English soccer media joke.)

Speaking of luck and percentages though, this very simple chart helps illustrate why it is quite worthwhile to pay attention to PDO [even strength shooting percentage plus save percentage] as a metric. Or, to put it in a "would you bet money on this continuing?" context:

If your team is posting a 12% shooting percentage or a 1040 PDO through 10 or 20 or 30 games, you need to ask yourself if it's illusory, or if your team is the best team we've seen in half a decade.

The other end of that question is why some of us argued the Islanders' early season funk was bound to change, although not enough to vault them into the middle third of the league.

Moment of Zen

I'm not in the Fail for Nail brigade, but I have to admit his interviews when he makes the NHL should be awesome:


Everybody win.

(Sorry, this is way too much for one post, but have fun with any of these topics.)

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Question was asked in the comments of the Carcillo article

but I’m assuming that his suspension starts when he’s deemed fit to play. Well, he’s never fit to play. I guess physically able to play would be a better way to put it. Hits like that just turn my stomach.

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by Uncle Zenon on Jan 5, 2012 7:45 AM EST reply actions  

7 games

not nearly enough for Carcillo after all his other suspensions

they need some sort of sliding up scale that players understand in advance, so when they have that tenth of a second to decide whether to be violently stupid, they know it will cost them in 20 games in their wallet at some point

by Cary K on Jan 5, 2012 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

The Glengarry Glenross rule

First suspension: A Cadillac El Dorado convertible (between 1-3 games)
Second suspension: a set of steak knives (5-7 games)
Third suspension: you’re fired.

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science

by PGI on Jan 5, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Is this a favor for Mitch and Murray?

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jan 5, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

What Shanahan actually said to Carcillo

“You know why, mister? ‘Cause you drove a Zamboni to get here tonight, I drove an eighty thousand dollar BMW. THAT’S my name!”

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by Captdallas on Jan 5, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe that's Carcillo's problem

He just. Likes talking. To Shanahans.

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science

by PGI on Jan 5, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Glengarry Glenross is one of my alltime favorite movies

so I can think of nothing better than paraphrasing from it ALL DAY LONG.

Comic Book Writer by day; Islanders fanatic by Gameday

by Captdallas on Jan 5, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Seconded

Its applications are wide-ranging and delightful.

You just cost me six thousand dollars, by the way. What are you going to do about it?

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jan 5, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Leads = Draft Picks

“You got draft picks. Mitch & Murray paid good money. You can’t draft good prospects, you can’t draft shit, YOU ARE SHIT, hit the bricks pal, and beat it, ’cause you are going OUT!”

Comic Book Writer by day; Islanders fanatic by Gameday

by Captdallas on Jan 5, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Alternatively

Snow: You got defensemen. Wang paid good money. Get them to keep the puck out of our net. You can’t keep the puck out of our net with the D you’re given, you can’t win shit, you are shit, hit the bricks pal, and beat it, ’cause you are going out.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Jan 5, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

the Ducks

the Islanders should try to pick up Luca Sbisa

by robybasball on Jan 5, 2012 7:54 AM EST reply actions  

I don't think we want to give up what Murray would want for Sbisa

Murray said he’s not looking to shed salary or acquire draft picks, so he’d probably want someone like Michael Grabner or Travis Hamonic for Sbisa.

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by Captdallas on Jan 5, 2012 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

If

we’re trading a forward like Grabner for a defenseman, I’d rather go Fowler. It’s funny how people panned him last year (despite 40 points as a rookie) because of his play in his own end. Yet, there he is this year, leading their defensemen in Corsi, while drawing tough assignments, and still on pace to put up 35 points. A 19 year old defenseman took a year to develop-imagine that?!?

I know the Isles weren’t the only ones to pass on Fowler, but I was hoping for him in 2010 and was surprised when they didn’t take him. Hopefully Nino works out, because Fowler seems to be putting it together just fine so far.

by afrosupreme on Jan 5, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Interview awesome

at one point I was sure he was going to say **** Canada, We Win.

by ghalbart on Jan 5, 2012 8:29 AM EST reply actions  

If on Febuary 22nd 1980

You had told me that in 2012, I would be happy Russia beat Canada, I would have tried to commit you.

How times have changed.

"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."

—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 5, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

The hits in the NHL are getting ridiculous

Good for Shanahan with the Bourque suspension. When I head his hearing was going to be by phone I knew the maximum he could get was 5 games, so I immediately thought it would be fewer. Bourque elbowed Backstrom a good four steps after he had already passed the puck and was clear targeting of the head. Theres absolutely no place for that in hockey.

I understand sometimes you go to check someone and do it carelessly (not condoning) but at least its part of the play. Bourques elbow was just a cheapshot that, if done on the street, would be grounds for legal action.

Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!

by Chris McNally on Jan 5, 2012 8:34 AM EST reply actions  

Flyers fans beating up the Ranger fans...

That was hard to watch…They are dirt bags who were probably just looking for a fight…This isn’t the first time this has happened and sure as hell wont be the last…I went to the Isles vs Rags game @ MSG when Turgoen scored his 50th goal…Back then it wasn’t considered smart to wear an Isles jersey to one of these games @ MSG…I wore one anyway and some asshole Ranger fan, who was sitting behind my group, (a mix of Isles & Rags fans) decided to pick a fight with me because I wore the Islander jersey. I wasn’t a push over but I was in the minority and thank God my Ranger fan friend, who is like 6’2" and 300lbs, stood up and told him something like “if you fuck with my friend then you’re fucking with me” …The guy looked like a douche because my friend had a Rangers jersey on himself which is ironic…The asshole backed down…

by KO21 on Jan 5, 2012 8:40 AM EST reply actions  

I don't know why they still do

But tales like that always amaze me. I’ve seen it enough, at enough sporting events. It seems sports can be a good outlet for frustrations/violent energy … or just an outlet where people feel license to transfer those feelings into assault.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jan 5, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think the Rags fans hate us like they used too so its not like that anymore...

There are probably allot of suits at the games and the rivalry is not what it was…

by KO21 on Jan 5, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Most NHL fans feel sorry for us

even some Rags fans.

"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."

—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 5, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

They want you to think that- its not true.

It was only a few seasons ago…
The Isles were winning the season series against the Rangers (I believe it was the season of the Metro Ice Challenge controversy) and when the Isles scored in the third and effectively put the game out of reach for the Rags, suddenly NVMC erupted in fights. All over the place! Even the players were looking up and noticing all the fights in the stands. It was CRAZY.

The minute- literally, the minute that both of these teams are good again at the same time, its on.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Jan 5, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

The first game last season

There was a fight on the ice and 3 different fights going on in the stands at the same time.

The rivalry isn’t as heated right now but it will be soon.

You wouldn't believe how good the Corsi is for my NHL 12 Be A Pro player.

by ArsenalLI on Jan 5, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

The rivalry will return

when either both teams are good or both teams are terrible.

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by Fabtraption on Jan 5, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

10/15

At the first game at the Coliseum this year, the big guns, the black shirt security guards had to assist the normal yellow shirts in section 328 when an incident broke out. I didn’t really catch what happened, but since it’s next to 329, there’s usually security up there more than any other area of the Coliseum. I don’t think it escalated to a fight, but a good number of people were kicked out.

by dunnowhat2type on Jan 5, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true but not until then.
The minute- literally, the minute that both of these teams are good again at the same time, its on.

by KO21 on Jan 5, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I went to Lambeau field to watch a Vikings Packers Monday night game in 2008

As the game wore on a Packer fan behind me leaned down and told me I was the coolest Vikes fan they had ever sat by. I thanked them and asked them who they thought were the biggest dicks of any fanbase. I was sure he would say Vikings or Bears

He said " Oh Eagle fans, easily."

I’m sure most of you know that the Eagles and Pack don’t even have a rivalry. I don’t like to generalize fanbases, but they have that reputation for a reason. I know plenty of great diehard fans from Philly who are just like most of us, but they obviously have a very serious asshole part of their fanbase too.

I’ve loved sports for 35 years, and have never had a fist fight over any of it. How ridiculous.

"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."

—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 5, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I knew a Flyer fan that wanted to get into a fight at a Penguin Vs Caps game

No reason we could think of other than Philly fans turn weird when it comes to sports.

by Hockey1919 on Jan 5, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

i wish I could say the same thing

“I’ve loved sports for 35 years, and have never had a fist fight over any of it. How ridiculous.”

I’m 44 and I’ve been loving sports since day 1, but there must be something about my brother and I because we seem to attract all the loonies out there from coast to coast. We were attacked in the parking lot at Mile High after a Giants/Broncos game by a guy with a purple “D” painted on his bare chest and an orange mohawk, and about 10 of his friends. They thought they were going to beat the shit out of two Giants fans that afternoon. What they did not know was that we were heading back to the cars where 15 of my brothers lunatic college friends were waiting for us. Things did not go as planned for Mr. purple D and his buddies.

We also got into an altercation at an Islanders game with an Islanders fan just last year. We were at the game with our 9 year old nephew from Massachusetts and he was wearing his Bruins jersey and the guy sitting behind us was giving him a hard time. We asked him to chill but he kept escalating his abuse culminating with him grabbing the boy’s shoulder, turning him around, shoving the bird right up in his face, and slowly uttering “EFFFFFFFFF YYYYOOOOOOUUUUU”. This asshole was at the game with his wife and daughter!! What makes this even harder to believe is that my brother and I are both really big dudes. We dragged this ass out of the stands ourselves and handed him over to the head honcho security guy. But he was throwing punches!! Uneffingbelievable.

We got into a fight at Yankee Stadium with a couple of drunks who did not think we were cheering loud enough. I could go on because there is more, but you get the idea. We have spent many hours trying to figure out what the heck is going on, and our best guess is “Drunken Napolean Syndrome”. If anybody has any other theories, I’m all ears, because this bullshit is getting old.

by CloseCallJiggs on Jan 5, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, CCJ

It doesn’t hurt i’m 6 5 300 pounds.

But I’m usually at a road game for a team of mine, and I go in there with the mindset that I spent a lot of money and I don’t need to ruin this. I also try to sit in decent seats near season ticket holders not up high with the drunk guy who goes to one game a year.

"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."

—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 6, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Sitting in the good seats...hmmmmm

You might be on to something there. I’m usually in the boonies.

by CloseCallJiggs on Jan 6, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Boonies are known for being nuts

It’s where the people who don’t always go to games sit, so they tend to get drunker or act a little crazier. Just an opinion.

"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."

—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 6, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

That Flyers thread is great.

Bust that idiot!

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Jan 5, 2012 8:40 AM EST reply actions  

It is a great read.

That dude is easily one of the worlds reigning biggest idiots. How about those facebook posts? I can’t wait to see how this plays out.

by CloseCallJiggs on Jan 5, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I was at a Isles-Flyers game back in the '01-'02 season

Fifteen seconds after arriving I was getting “Eff Leon Steckel” comments. They aren’t right down there, and though Travis Hughes and the Broad Street guys are doing the Lord’s work when it comes to these idiots, I have to disagree with him about the “we’re no worse than any city” comment. I have worn my Isles jersey in many different venues. I wore my Isles gear on a visit to the Pittsburgh area in the summer of 1993 and nobody threw me into the Monongahela. I’ve been to the cheap seats at MSG (Isles win) and at the Byrne Arena (Devils in shootout). NOBODY has ever hassled me like Philly fans did. I also know a lot of fans of the Rangers, Devils, Flyers; and of the various baseball and football clubs as well. It’s the Flyer/Eagle/Phillies fans who universally warn me, “Be careful down there at the game, they’ll kill ME right along with you no matter what I’m wearing.”

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by mikb on Jan 5, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Based on my personal track record (read two posts up)...

and the stereotype of the Phiily fan, you will not be seeing me in a Phiily arena in this lifetime. Just not worth it. After al,l stereotypes exist for a reason, it’s because the same dumbass people keep doing the same dumbass shit.

by CloseCallJiggs on Jan 5, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

The Rags fans around me at the Coli were great

"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."

—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 6, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

OK, that Nail interview is adorable.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Jan 5, 2012 8:46 AM EST reply actions  

Love the line on BSH
We’re not exactly fans of calling to attention the awful reputation of the Philadelphia sports fan, mostly because that reputation is, generally speaking, complete bullshit. Every town has their idiots, and we’re no different than New York or Boston or Oakland or anywhere else.

Except that it is different. Yeah, there are idiots everywhere, but there are special idiots in Philadelphia. That’s why other NFL stadiums don’t need courtrooms in the basement. That reputation is well-earned.

by afrosupreme on Jan 5, 2012 8:46 AM EST reply actions  

So if you have a reputation of being the guy who causes a scene at social functions

bc you have in the past caused many a scene at social functions, that reputation is bullshit? Bc Philly fans are that guy. Even the athletes and broadcasters have made it known that Philly fans are, how can I put this, a “special” breed. I’m sorry BSH but bullshit is not a synonym for earned, and more likely than not, reputation is just that, earned.

Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!

by Chris McNally on Jan 5, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

It certainly seems that there are too many idiot fans who wear a flyers jersey.

Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...

by Turgeon1992 on Jan 5, 2012 11:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

When that poor Giants fan got attacked by Dodgers fans

nobody started talking about how awful Dodgers fans are bc of two random, moronic thugs. But thats bc Dodgers fans don;t have a history of doing moronic things. Philly fans on the other hand, while this incident is by far extreme, its just another one added to a long list of out of hand Philly fandom.

Like when Mets fans pelted John Rocker with batteries after his asinine comments about New Yorkers, New York fans added to their reputation of being outlandish fans. Its not bullshit. But we’re still not on the level of Philly.

With that said, you’re correct with your comment below, the BSH crew did do excellent work trying to track down the morons who were involved.

Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!

by Chris McNally on Jan 5, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

BSH

And I think these are people who are actively trying to engage, develop and promote sane fan behavior in Philly. So my hat’s off to them.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jan 5, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

As a Dodger fan who has sat in the bleachers for a Dodgers Giants game.

All I have to say was that was the most violent sporting event I’ve ever attended, Dodger fans would walk up and punch Giants fans right in the back of the head for no reason at all. let’s just say they have some thugs hanging out in the bleachers looking for a reason to hit people, and baseball and it’s fans are the scapegoat. Those aren’t Dodger fans, those are gang members.

I remember sitting there thinking how glad I was to be wearing Dodger Blue, the most beautiful color on earth.

"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."

—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 5, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

There is something not-so-great going on in the Bay area...

and in California arena’s. There have been too many of these violent ‘gang style’ beat downs in the past few years.

But Philly has been a disaster for as long as I can remember. Seems to be a real angry crew.

by CloseCallJiggs on Jan 5, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I was in Philly last winter

on my way to St Thomas to catch a Cruise because our flight missed the cponnection to San Juan. Obviously not dressed right for a winter evening in Philly, I wore my Islanders Hoodie for a walk around downtown.

Has a bit of good hearted booing from the Philly residents, but it was all in good fun.

STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jan 5, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Flyers

I’ve seen about half a dozen games in Philly (even going back to the old Spectrum) and never had an issue. I also didn’t act like an asshole while wearing my Isles jersey. The worst I got was a “go back to Long Island” line. This after the Isles were down 5 goals. They aren’t the smartest folks around, but they also just going around looking to fight. At least most.

by IDigRcks on Jan 5, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Very true

the way you act means a lot to the way you are treated.

"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."

—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 5, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

that interview

reminds me of the early Kasper interviews… broken english makes for enjoyment in sports interviews every time

These comments crawl up from the depths of the deepest Chasm of Saar

by bob l on Jan 5, 2012 9:05 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I have a feeling...

Nail is going to have concussion problems when he gets to the NHL… just sayin’

I've had enough! It's time to call out Garth Snow!
@JPinVA

by JPinVA on Jan 5, 2012 9:18 AM EST reply actions  

Congrats to Calvin...

But he certainly hasn’t been “all-star” material in his rookie season. There are three vets that are more deserving(Ullstrom, Dibo, Wallace…all on pace for 30G+) but all have missed time for injury or promotion. I’d have even given more consideration to Casey who is running with his rookie opportunities.
So, I’d put Calvin in the Kohn category. Kohn went to the all-star game because Katic was hurt. This is probably the case again. The three true all stars are hurt or promoted, and Katic, their best defenseman, hasn’t played all year.
Sorry to be so negative… Calvin may turn out to be an NHL ALL-STAR one day, but I just can’t get excited about the “representation” nod… Didn’t Scott Lachance make an NHL all-star squad once? Not that Scott wasn’t a good hockey player… this pretty much sums it up.

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by JPinVA on Jan 5, 2012 9:38 AM EST reply actions  

decision tree

was probably

a) do BPT have someone worthy whos still on the team? No

b) whose the biggest name prospect they have – Cizikas or de Haan?

Casey deserved it more based on his play – but de Haan is one of the solid core of D – they could have both been good representatives

But clearly not awarded because he was standing out – he is a solid player and could be for the Islanders as well – we’ll see hopefully soon, maybe even on Friday

by Cary K on Jan 5, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Wotton was the BP rep once too

a solid vet career AHLer, but nothing special and was never a threat to make NHL.

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jan 5, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

If the AHL is anything like the NHL when it comes to the All-Star choices then It holds no water, IMHO...

If the NHL was legit they would not leave Moulson off the ballot…That shit pisses me off…Moulson deserves it more than most that will…

by KO21 on Jan 5, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to tag/remember this one

just in case we ever have, uh, occasion to use it.

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by Dominik on Jan 5, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't see us dropping far enough

to get him. maybe his rant will make him undraftable by Canadian teams or teams with native canadian GM’s and he will drop into the hands of the “rock ribbed all american” Garth Snow. That would be “wicked pissah ahhhsome” as most of our coaching staff would say.

by randyboyd on Jan 5, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

jeez

is that funny

rec #14

by Cary K on Jan 5, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks

gotta laugh about something this season

by randyboyd on Jan 5, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Having finally watched that interview...

that kid is hilarious. I wonder if “he win.” He totally was about to say “Canada? Fuck Canada.”

Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...

by Turgeon1992 on Jan 5, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

...to which 80,000 would reply, "Eh, fuck you buddy!"

/eat Snacky Smores

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by Bryan2112 on Jan 6, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Good job to the guys at bsh for doing some detective work on that video.

Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...

by Turgeon1992 on Jan 5, 2012 10:28 AM EST via mobile reply actions   2 recs

Good funny
Fans were confused at first, mistaking something red, stiff, immobile and deep in the zone for Hal Gill

STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jan 5, 2012 11:42 AM EST reply actions  

CDH

Still has not shown he was worth that drafting nightmare scenario.

by altosax on Jan 5, 2012 11:49 AM EST reply actions  

Wow

It’s already a nightmare scenario now?

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by Dominik on Jan 5, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

if de Haan is a drafting nightmare

what was Scott Scissions? World War III?

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by PGI on Jan 5, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

You can wake up now.

He made the team about a month ago.

by Les Beaver on Jan 5, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

its ............

called a “quick cup of coffee” because thats about how long he played with the “team”

by altosax on Jan 5, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

He's 20 years old!

and he was a mid 1st round pick. He wasn’t Top 10, and definitely Top 5, so to expect him to already be on the team is a little premature.

Not to mention the only things the Islanders gave up to move up and get him was G Matthew Hackett and LW Erik Haula. Last time I checked neither of them was tearing up the NHL. So even if they didn’t need to move up, they didn’t lose anything of consequence to do so.

Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!

by Chris McNally on Jan 5, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I don't think it was a "nightmare"...

But:
1. They were overly focused on puck moving defenders when they didn’t have any top defensive defenders in their system.
2. At 26 simon Despres would have been available and they don’t have to give up any picks. For all we know CDH might have been avaialble there as well.
3. At 16 they most likely have their choice between CDH and Kulikov. Whichever one florida doesn’t take. most likely they end up with CDH anyway without giving up any more picks. Rundblad would fit nicely on the team and Nick Leddy is also cap muling in Chicago already… so then there’s that. And maybe the best option that all those teams passed on was Erixon.
4. At 12 you need to take the best player available, and it certainly wasn’t deHaan. deHaan was rated in the late first (though we can’t put much stock in that, it’s turning out to be accurate). Kulikov or, Kassian are far more valuable.
In hindsight this type of drafting philosphy (puck moving D, with little regard to size and strength) was what caused Jankowski’s unemployment. The most likely reasoning was that in his draft year he was shuffling the puck to our best draft pick this century. You can’t make vital decisions based on teammates in junior. There is little doubt that the manipulation and options passed on were poor decisions by Snow and jankowski.
All that being said, there is nothing to confirm that calvin won’t be a superb NHLer.

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by JPinVA on Jan 5, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

But what were you expecting?

It’s not like he was going to be Bobby Orr or something.

Injuries cost CDH about a year of development but he is still developing at a decent pace. Defensemen almost always take longer to stick on the NHL level. Building the skills and the body to contain the worlds best players for 20+ minutes a game does not happen overnight. Sure Fowler broke in to the league right away. He also has one of the worst +/- in hockey(-19 this year -24 last year). Adam Larsson is a -11 on a winning club. Give the kid time.

No Sleep 'til....We Find Some Secondary Scoring

by Anarcurt on Jan 5, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Give him time?

That’s lunacy. Defensekids drafted at age 17/18 should be read to play in the NHL by 18 and 1/2. All those who don’t are busts. Fact.

/sir chasm

Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...

by Turgeon1992 on Jan 5, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree they focused on the wrong style of player

but there had to be something about de Haan that blew Snow and Jankowski away that lead them to not only pin point their focus on him, but trade assets to make sure they got him.

We have years before we’ll know if they were totally off base, only slightly off base, or totally out of their minds. But either way, it’ll never be as big of a gaffe as Scott Lachance over Peter Forsberg in 91, which everyone seems to overlook when talking about ways the Islanders bonered up a draft pick

Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!

by Chris McNally on Jan 5, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Scott Lachance...

son-in-law of jack parker. I know this was pre-MY TEAM USA conspiracy theory, and the NE Mafia but it ties to a future pattern, so I have to make note of it.
He’s also a scout in the Lou-cipher system.

Scott Lachance could very well be the anti-christ!

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by JPinVA on Jan 5, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Patience JP

Scott LaChance is only 39. Ds develop slowly.

(Why look at how Steve Staios has blossomed at age 38).

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Jan 5, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

My take on DeHaan

He was drafted to eventually replace Streit. Of the three puck-moving defensemen in the Isles system (Ness, De Haan, and Donovan), at the time he was drafted he was the only one projected as a potential #1/2 D.

That could account for why De Haan/Hamonic/A-Mac will make up 50% of the defensive corps in the next few years.

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by Fabtraption on Jan 5, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Nuclear Holocaust, I guess.

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 5, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

No

Just another OK pik so far………..we will see, don’t polish any awards just yet – Tamby and RHS are still waiting for theirs,

by altosax on Jan 5, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

well, Dave Chyzowski was worse

but seriously, if you look back at the drafting records of any cup winning team, you have more than enough busts to go around. Forget about Billy Harris, just take a look at the Nords/Avalanche drafting history…todd warriner 3rd over all, Bryan “should have been one of the best D ever if not for the booze” fogerty something like 9th overall. Reality is, they got to be good by having so many 1st overall picks and other high draft picks, that they were able to absorb the inevitable busts….Lindros, Sundin and Owen Nolan all 1st overall picks.

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jan 5, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

It's his 1st pro season

He’s played 1 NHL game…

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by backstop87 on Jan 5, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

“that drafting nightmare scenario”

LOL… lets drama this up a bit more why dont we?

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 5, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

What exactly is the nightmare here?

That we could have picked up Rundblad if we stayed at 16? No one knew he would break out like he did last year in the SEL. He was even traded by the Coyotes for another mid 1st round pick. The draft is a dice roll anyway. It’s not like we gave up signed assets.

No Sleep 'til....We Find Some Secondary Scoring

by Anarcurt on Jan 5, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d actually consider Nino over Fowler more of a ‘nightmare’ right now then taking DeHaan too high. Nino hasn’t shown anything right now that makes you not regret passing on a badly needed d-man

by maydog927 on Jan 5, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

But Fowler is a -44 now over a season and a half

It’s not like it’s a done deal that he is better than Nino. Fowler, right now, is just MAB with potential for more.

No Sleep 'til....We Find Some Secondary Scoring

by Anarcurt on Jan 5, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really

He’s playing much, much better this year (I linked to some advanced stuff above). The +/- isn’t pretty, but he otherwise seems to really be coming along-playing tougher minutes and handling them well.

I’m not saying Nino won’t end up the better player, and obviously a ton of teams questioned Fowler, but I don’t think the MAB comparison is a good one.

by afrosupreme on Jan 5, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just saying right now

Until he can play at an NHL level in his own end he is a MAB.

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by Anarcurt on Jan 5, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't watched him enough to know if he's got "brainfart" syndrome in his zone as say mottau/jurcina do.

But his advanced stats look good. But defensive issues is why he was passed by so many teams, maybe he is the next jack johnson/MAB or maybe he’s better. Too young to right him off either way, but it’s gonna be interesting to see what happens with him. He’s got tremendous speed and great o-skills.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Jan 6, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Torts initial instinct was right

The refs tried everything they could to make game exciting/get into OT. Don’t think the NHL instructed them to do so, but that was some questionable officiating in the 3rd period.

by 4PeatSake on Jan 5, 2012 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

John Tavares Breakout

always believed – and so should you – that the greatest line ever was ?and now compare with our top line now

Trottier the playmaker - John Tavares

Bossy the finisher - Matt Moulson

Gilles the power forward - Kyle Okposo

now we are not there yet but we can begin to compare

by Peter Puck on Jan 5, 2012 12:38 PM EST reply actions  

Blasephemer

To sinful it even repaste the offending quote. Let’s just say, Moulson is a fine player but will never, ever, be able to do this

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Jan 5, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Those Canucks jerseys

Greatest jerseys ever, or greatest jerseys ever? Am I right?

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Jan 5, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

hmm
To sinful it even repaste the offending quote. Let’s just say, Moulson is a fine player but will never, ever, be able to do this

I am pretty sure Moulson is able to link to a youtube video. ;)

by GreekIsles83 on Jan 5, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I see where youre going with this

but its a bit of a stretch. To compare Moulson even loosely to Bossy is an insult to Bossy and I don;t think Okposo will ever become the powerful force Gillies was. He may have some grit but he doesn’t have that fire.

It’s only been 3 games. If the Isles get shutout the next three games the top line will be no more and everyone will be talking about how moving Okposo to the first line was a monumental bust.

Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!

by Chris McNally on Jan 5, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

And somehow

it will be Rolston’s fault.

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by PGI on Jan 5, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I thought we'd blame Mottau

for looking too much like an old JT

Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!

by Chris McNally on Jan 5, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

$5 !!!

for a can of whiskey that holds 8 shots?

probably tastes like ass but i can spare a 5$ bill now and again to get obliterated

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by bob l on Jan 5, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Just going by what I see right now...

Tavares > Trottier… will JT be able to do it for as long, and get better when the level of his peers rises? Who knows. It’s also a question of whether JT will become the two-way center that Trottier was. I think he’s already surpassed him as a skater, and will benefit greatly when the team improves/matures. These are the only two that are even close in this comparison.
Moulson isn’t even in the same conversation as Bossy. In fairness, Bossy was the last piece of a juggernaut, but he was a 50G scorer from the get-go, and was the consumate FINISHER. It took Moulson 5 years to find the NHL… and 7 to find success.
Okposo is a drop in Gillies’ spit bucket. Gillies could do it all… and was A HUGE REASON they got past their biggest challenges in 1980. Kicking the ever-living shit out of Terry O’Rielly more times than Okposo will drop a glove by accident in his career while going 6-10-16 in those 21 playoff games is something you won’t see again… BY ANYBODY!

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by JPinVA on Jan 5, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Trottier (MY OPINION)

Was the least of the five (player) banners that are hanging. 19 certainly deserves to be in the rafters and in the HOF, but each one of the other four carved out a special place in hockey history.
Potvin was one of the top 5 defensemen to ever play the game. In terms of THE WHOLE GAME he’s still the best I’ve ever seen.
Bossy may be the best pure goal scorer in regards to release and accuracy ever. there is some dependence on trottier’s playmaking, and Gillies’ space creation… but Bossy would have shone anywhere he played, and made any lineates better.
Gillies defined a position. He was the quintessential power forward. He could the puck, he could shoot, he had incredible balance and was an incredible pugilist when called upon. There were other guys that had skills and could throw… but gillies was never a tool. He’d have been a tremendous asset to any team if he never dropped the gloves.
Smitty… all you have to say is 19 straight playoff series wins. No goaltender will ever do that again. They won cups when each one of the other four were not at their best, but Smitty was always between the pipes… for 5 straight cup appearences… at any time, if he goes cold there is no dynasty… see chico, who could have made one or two more saves the previous two years and the dynasty would have started a lot sooner.
Trots was a tremendous player, but IMHO, he was the greatest benefactor of the his two linemates and the best defensemen in the league. He was a gritty little weasel at times, but nobody was ever going to call him out… not with Gillies there. He had all the space in the world with Bossy usually drawing a forward and a D… and gillies or Potvin taking on two at a time in the corners. He was a good one-on-one battler as well.. but here it is… wait for it…
I’m gonna say that JT turns out to be the better pure hockey player over the long haul. And I don’t say that to be a slight on a HOF player… Just that I think that’s where JT will wind up. In terms of getting TWT (Time With Tavares) it should be called, WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONAIRE.

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by JPinVA on Jan 5, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

five (player) banners that are hanging

I like to ignore the Nystrom one too-it really just doesn’t belong.

I hope you’re right, but I remember Trots being about as good a two-way player as I’ve ever seen, and that allowed Bossy to do a lot of the things he did. Sure the points were nice and all, but he was just as tough in his own end. Not sure I see JT ever developing, or needing to develop, that.

by afrosupreme on Jan 5, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Trottier > Tavares

he was a much better defender

Bossy > Moulson

GIllies > Okposo

but Moulson-Tavares-Okposo works very well because it has the same balance of styles

by Cary K on Jan 5, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking HOFer's

I definitely think that Bobby’s #23 belongs there… 1 uni, 4 cups, THE GOAL, the consumate lunch pailer… and still a great Islander ambassador.
No doubt that trots was one of the best two way pivots to ever play the game, but if you put him between Parentau and Moulson at 21, instead of Gillies and Bossy… well.
Just look at the basic ass kicking JT took in his first two years. First of all, trottier might have stabbed gordon in his sleep… 18 year old kids need to learn to protect themselves, but they need some protection as well. Arbour understood that, Gordon… not so much.

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by JPinVA on Jan 6, 2012 3:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I think putting 23 up there opened a can of worms regarding 27, 6, or even 14, but I can see it as a sort of lifetime achievement thing.

Don’t forget, Potvin went from 76 points to 98 points when Trotts showed up, and the team broke 100 points for the season for the first time ever. I’m not sure who he played with as a rookie (Gillies and Harris), but 95 points, even by 70s standards, as a 19 year old is pretty tough.

First of all, trottier might have stabbed gordon in his sleep

Probably true! Look at how he went after poor Brian Bellows after all.

by afrosupreme on Jan 6, 2012 8:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank you JP

Doesn’t belong, His nickname is Mr. Islander.

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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 6, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

i would say Trotts was a lot tougher than Jonny T will ever be

but not necessarily disagreeing with you ranking order of best Isles ever. I would say I am uneasy about undervaluing Trotts. He did win rookie of the year well before Bossy was around, and if memory is correct, I think he was a second round pick the same year Clarke Gillies was picked something like 4th overall. Also, we do have to keep in mind, Trotts is one of the best centres ever. I still remember him leaving his feat and nailing Bob Gainey against the boards in the final year of the drive for five. Isles were down 2 games to none, and Gainey had shut Bossy down. Trotts separated both Gainey’s shoulders in that illegal hit, Gainey hid the injury and still played, but wasn’t effective. Isles came back to crush Montreal in that series. Also, Tiger Williams, asshole that he was/is still hates Bossy and runs him into the ground at any moment, but claims you couldn’t touch Bossy b/c he played with guys like Trotts and Gillies, whom Williams respected and played with in juniors. Just a caution is all I am offering.

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jan 6, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Tavs is plenty rugged

He hasn’t generally shown a problem with sticking up for himself at need; he also continues to go hard to the tough ice and is just as willing to absorb contact and stickwork to make a play. He definitely has a power forward mentality in that sense.

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by mikb on Jan 6, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I still remember him leaving his feat and nailing Bob Gainey against the boards in the final year of the drive for five.

If I recall that hit correctly, it was behind the net and Trottier crushed him.

by Hockey1919 on Jan 6, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Underestimating Trottier

Potvin IMHO was the best Islander ever, but Trottier was number 2. I know Bossy gets all of the goal scorer love, but in modern terms Trottier was the Toews to Bossy’s Kane. Even the Oilers could win without Kurri, but not without Messier.

Remember Trots went 3 STRAIGHT playoffs with a point in every game. He also went on to teach a bird that can’t fly how to win 2 more Cups after he was “washed-up”. I think he carved out his space as the best two-way center to ever play the game.

by Hockey1919 on Jan 6, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree on Potvin as number 1 Isles ever, but I'd put Bossy 2nd

very, very few players could score like Bossy. Then man was literally half way through the shot before the puck was on his stick, and he could still thread a needle like that. Unbelievable. Pretty much everyone else, even today, has to stop the puck first, which of course allows the goalie that mega second to get into position. Very few goal scorers, Lemieux was the most similar, can score like that. Trotts’ game was completely different, he was for sure one of the best centres ever, but there are a lot more guys that can be compared to Trotts than the Boss. Ted Lindsay, Messier to name a couple.

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jan 6, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's remember

Trottier won an NHL scoring title, When a guy named Gretzky played in the league. I’m not sure JT has a scoring title in him, but we can hope.

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by since70too on Jan 5, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I love JT but...

I’ll quote Gordie Howe, who was asked who would be the first player you would pick to build a team around? his answer Brian Trottier, that speaks volumes form someone who played and saw the greatest over the decades.

PS I’m a Bossy Fanatic,

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by bossy2219 on Jan 5, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Huh?

Trots worse than Gillies? Not to take anything from Jethro, but there were other power forwards who could fight and score 30+ goals. Cam Neely was an unbelievable beast. And Trots was as good a center the league had. Won the Calder with a 95-point rookie season; won the Hart Trophy and a scoring title; won the Conn Smythe. Was a two-way force – three different seasons of +70 or better. Eight-time all-star and four-time All-NHL (1st or 2nd team), plus a number of best-on-best international competitions. The only thing you could really say against Trots was that he really declined sharply after age 31; but then again, he could just as easily have settled into an elder statesman role with the Isles instead of going to Pittsburgh. (Imagine the effect he could have had on Tom Fitztgerald and Travis Green when they were young players.)

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by mikb on Jan 5, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Trottier v Gillies

Apples and Oranges. I assume this was in response to my post, so I’ll try to explain what I meant.
Of the 5 HOFer’s there is a more of a defining individual statement made by the other four. The line between Gillies and trottier is pretty thin in my eyes, but could be seen as greatly in trottier’s favor using a different perspective.
I can easily understand that. It’s just that to me you could have plucked a few contemporary centers(Clarke, Middleton, Gretzky) in Trots position and come up with similar results. There was only one Gillies… and Gillies was my second favorite Isalnder besides Potvin. So maybe it’s just a personal perspective issue.
I could argue both sides just as easily.

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by JPinVA on Jan 6, 2012 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Certainly a personal perspective

Trottier was a HHOF shoe-in. Gillies left a lot of people saying, huh? And I appreciate Gillies as the first true power forward, but Yzerman through Sakic all wore 19 because of Trottier. He influenced the entire next generation of dominant NHL centers.

Clarke and Middleton (? Nifty really?) are pale comparisons and even Gretzky in his prime could not handle Trottier at his best. Face-to-ace Trottier dominated the Oil for ten straight games before the Islanders decline..

by Hockey1919 on Jan 6, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

i'd say Gillies was the first @ his role, but there have been others

Potvin was the rarest, followed by Bossy. Those two to me are franchise players who would have eventually won cups regardless of team. I put few players in that category. Gretzky and Orr being in a different league altogether. After Potvin and Bossy, you have the rest of the best Isles ever, but Trotts would be 3rd best Isle ever. Gets more difficult after that. Smitty is up there too, with Gillies and the underrated John Tonelli who belongs in the hall of fame.

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jan 6, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

but Trottier was the only one that proved he could win a Cup on another team.

Granted he had a kid name Mario, Joe Mullen, Mr Under-rated Francis, the mullet, a cup of Coffey along as well, but no small coincidence he left, that group didn’t win again.

by Hockey1919 on Jan 6, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i'd caution on that one

Trotts was with Pitt for faceoff specialist and veteran voice. That was it. A testimate to him, but Bossy and Potvin were still among the best in their class when they retired, and, back in their day, franchises put a great deal into insuring their stars never played for another team. Nowadays it is extremely rare for a player to play only for one team. Again, I just see it as three very different players in different roles, but Potvin and Bossy are among the top 3 to 5 ever in their groupings, and much more difficult to replace. No matter what aspect of the game one can bring up for a D, Potvin was at the top of the list for everything…I don’t see anyone in the NHL today who could score like Bossy, Kane, OV, not on his level. Even Gretzky called Bossy the greatest goalscorer he ever saw or played against and with. Trotts was one of the best centres ever, but there is still guys out there who are comparible…some would even include Bobby Clarke, along with guys like Ted Lindsay, Messier etc. The only player I have seen who may have been equal or better than Bossy was Lemiuex. Bossy’s hand eye coordination was simply not human.

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jan 7, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Your MEMORY is a little off...

I admit I had to look this up. Trots won the scoring title in 78-79, the year before the merger and an 18 year old Wayne Gretzky joined the league with a 137 point season. Oh what a difference a few inches off the goalie pads would make.
Given the support I don’t think I’d put anything past John Tavares. One of the toughest things in sports is to be a #1 overall draft pick. this is mainly because you usually go to the worst team in the league, unless the team tanks (Stamkos) or wins the lottery(Crosby). JT came to a team that started from scratch the year before. The only players now on the roster that were here (in the NHL, so I exclude Kyle and Rhett) before the 2008 draft are frans and ricky… not exactly the kind of support that’s gonna get you a scoring title in your ELC years.
All that said.. trottier was an awesome HOFer… I’m not taking anything away from him, I’m just saying that JT has an opportunity to be a better NHL player. He’ll never go point for point with him because the league just doesn’t have 10 players topping 120 points anymore.

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by JPinVA on Jan 6, 2012 3:33 AM EST up reply actions  

that's impressive...

I can’t remember what I had for dinner last night since the internet thingy.

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by JPinVA on Jan 6, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I recall because it happened in the pre-20 year old brain cells.

Long term memory is just fine, short term is shot. If you want me to recall something tomorrow you better have told me 10 years ago.

by Hockey1919 on Jan 6, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

ok, now, that's crazy

tavares/trots, that’s a possibility.

But Moulson, 30g/yr vs BOSSY!!!one of the best right wings ever to play, 50+ goals every year until his back dissolved (and he still got 38 his last year in a walker).

and okposo, really?, as wimpy a “power forward” as has ever existed compared to Clark freakin Gillies?? Did you ever watch Gillies play? He changed a playoff series, and in part the destiny of a franchise by taking on Boston, including Terry O’Reilly. Did you watch the one attempt at fighting Okposo had this year, when he pooped himself and fell down?

Next up is what, the uncanny similarities between Smitty and Toyota?

i love the optimism, but your analysis is 2/3 of the line short.

by randyboyd on Jan 5, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I watched the Canada vs. Russia WJC game the other night.

Strome had one assist but otherwise looked very impressive.
He was the guy who seemed to keep puck possession in the final two minutes and almost tied the game, but he clanged one of the post. You can see he is a guy who is going to be very effective on the PP in the future. He can skate, stick handle and has a very nice shot.
Something about his moves reminded me a lot of JT especially while keeping possession in the offensive zone.

by The Danish Backhand of Judgement on Jan 5, 2012 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

agreed

he has a lot of JT in him

but does he fit on a line with Moulson & JT?

not so sure – perhaps he is the 2nd line center of the future – we are so loaded with Vitamin C

by Cary K on Jan 5, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Sundstrom played well. Had some quality chances in the Final.

Mika Z looked great in that game. Will be interesting to watch their careers unfold.

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by Bryan2112 on Jan 6, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Strome

I didn’t watch the final and can’t comment on Sundstrom, but honestly don’t know what to think of Strome’s performances. Sure, the stats look good and the final two minutes there against Russia were quite impressive. And there’s no doubt he’s seeing the ice extremely well and possesses really good passing skills. He also seemed to play a very responsible game. But especially against Russia I found him to look a bit “perimeter-ish”. Almost as if he was hesitant to get involved fully and felt a little uncomfortable with all that intensive kind of hockey around the two teams played that night. Then again, at least he didn’t make the mistakes some others did by showing too much urgency and trying to do too much. And of course he was one of the younger players on the team. So, he has time to mature. But how well his skills will translate will be another very fun process to watch. Not saying that he might struggle there, but rather pointing out how important I feel it was for him to be in such a game.

by BenHasna on Jan 6, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Now he's just a bust

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by mikb on Jan 6, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

John Tavares Breakout

I was not saying that these 3 are as good as the originals but merely to point out that the top line needs those 3 elements – the finisher, the play maker and a power forward. Whilst they may not compare, Moulson is well on his way to his 3rd consecutive 30 goal season which in this league is not too shabby and John Tavares is really only scratching the surface of his greatness.
Oh and p.s. as a season ticket holder from ’76 to ’82 I probably saw the originals play more games than any of you :)

by Peter Puck on Jan 5, 2012 1:24 PM EST reply actions  

Alright well now we're on to something

I agree with your assessment here. I think it is overlooked far too often that you need some power on your first line, and when its not, its misconstrued as a need for muscle. But Dom made a good point somewhere (most likely above but Im too lazy to go back) that the addition of Okposo creates space for JT to work and that is something PA didn’t bring. Not that I have a problem with PA on the first line, but like you said, Okposo fits better bc he fills a need in this “winning” formula.

As for the comparison, I may have gone more with a King-Turgeon-Thomas comparison, with Moulson being more like King (the finisher) although a slight upgrade and Okposo would be like a more physical Steve Thomas, but definitely needs to put more pucks in the net like Stevie did.

Oh, and you definitely saw the originals play more than I did. I started going to practices when I was 10, and saw only the last couple seasons of the Trottier-Bossy era. It was still nice to have seen them, but would have loved to witness them, and the team, in their prime.

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by Chris McNally on Jan 5, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

The creating space thing is more a style of play factor. When you go hard to the net the D panics to make sure you're

covered. That creates space for the puck carrier because at least 1 defender has backed off to cover the guy streaking to the net. Kyle is fast and strong and kind of stocky so he’s a good guy to do that but any forward will draw the attention of the D if they go hard to the net. Little guys don’t like to do it as much because they get tossed around sometimes but Kyle can hold his own jostling for position with those big Dmen.

by TMS71 on Jan 5, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

its a nice tried & tested formula

by Cary K on Jan 5, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Isles draft picks not looking so good.

I have to agree with those who aren’t overly excited about DeHaan so for. Bailey, DeHaan, and Nino aren’t showing signs of being the players I hoped they would be. I think the Islanders drafting philosophy needs to change a little bit. I know these guys are young and aside from Bailey its really early but I’m not encouraged by what I’m seeing. I think what you want to see from a draftee is dominance at a high level of amateur hockey. Some of these guys may not have been playing the toughest minutes at their respective amateur levels. The two guys who I’m highest on are Anders Lee and Strome. Strome is just laying waste to major junior right now and Lee is a total beast in the NCAA. I’m pretty confident that we have something in those two guys. Nino? Eh, I’m gonna wait and see but I’m not seeing him presenting problems for the D. They seem to have no trouble handling him. I want to see him make the D overcommit sometimes because they are afraid to get burned. I don’t see that at all. Expectations are so low for him that I think his lack of production is glossed over. That goal he scored a few weeks ago was big and a it was a sweet writst shot too. But I want to see more of that. I saw some of Nino’s highlights and I wasn’t quite sure why the Isles drafted him so high. He was a star in juniors, sure, but he really didn’t look dominant to me.

BTW what happens with Trivino regarding the Isles rights to him? Can they take him and put him AA and the ECHL at the same time? He’s not a great prospect but you want to give that a shot at least.

by TMS71 on Jan 5, 2012 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

I agree...

…but I’m not ready to write off Nino after 23 games and especially not while the Islanders are doing him no justice whatsoever playing him like a fourth liner pairing him with Reasoner (ugh) and Wallace. He isn’t ready, but the Isles need to fill the roster.

by ChryWheatGod on Jan 5, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

too early to call out draft busts...

the sample size is incredibly limited, save for bailey…

CDH 1 game (looked better than eaton/mottau/staios too) Expectations raised because of the Draft shuffle we did to get him

Nino, started camp with JT and MM, got hurt, relegated to 9-12 min per game playing with offensive juggernauts like reasoner… then…got hurt again… he needs to be on a line with more youth and i’ll live with the growing pains…

Bailey, we’ve def seen flashes of his offensive ability, but his consistency has been lacking… this year though he’s been more consistent, just not as an offensive threat, he’s been ok on O, but much better on draws and defensive presence (backchecking) (he still has issues clearing his zone at times though)

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by bob l on Jan 5, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously?

Also lumping Bailey with De Haan and Nino is wrong.

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by garik16 on Jan 5, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Nino dominated in Jrs didn't he???

Strome as well…Not sure why you’re drawing these conclusions so early…These guys aren’t 1st over all picks…They arent in the Tavares league

by KO21 on Jan 5, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Great breakdown.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Jan 5, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Great work JP, one very minor correction

Toews was a 3rd round pick, not a 2nd. Ness, Trivino and Hamonic were the 3 2nd round picks. Petrov, Niemi and Toews were the 3 3rd round picks.

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jan 6, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

It's ridiculous

You guys are writing off prospects already. It’s deHaan’s 1st HALF A SEASON in the AHL! Give him time holy hell!

Nino has played limited time in 23 games and is coming off both a minor concussion AND that groin injury.

Although the points aren’t there Bailey is improving, so I am happy.

Stop being so pessimistic for once, it’s annoying. You can’t calla draft a bust until years later.

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by edavidmorris on Jan 5, 2012 4:19 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Nino should be in the

AHL for all accounts. As a power forward, his learning curve in the NHL is slower. The kid has limited minutes and is improving every game. Give him some time he is 19 years old. I see him in the AHL next year unless he blows us away. And that is the way it should be. He will know what he has to do from being in the NHL, will dominate the AHL and will either be a call up or be on the club the following year. No problems with this as he is not a 1st overall.

by ghalbart on Jan 5, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

In 1/2 a season?

Even being worried is too early to tell. Tim Thomas seemed like a nothing special for years until recently when he showed how amazing he can be. Give it time.

Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...

by Turgeon1992 on Jan 5, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Somehow the ones with heart............

can overcome some talent challenges, and by the way if they don’t have heart in the AHL, they won’t discover it in the Bigs. [maybe that’s why Wishart can’t get over the Trogs Neck Bridge!

by altosax on Jan 5, 2012 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

I think the Isles should have an open competition when they plan on calling someone up

and whoever makes it across the sound without using motorized transportation first, gets the spot on the roster. That’ll prove they have heart.

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by Chris McNally on Jan 5, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

torterella is a such a clown

you know that “apology” was with a gun to his head with the threat of the fine being 60k instead of 30k. that jackass meant every word of what he said after that game. lol he’s a moron

by ripcurl2121 on Jan 5, 2012 7:29 PM EST reply actions  

Anyone watching this fishing show

lots of ISles footage it looks like.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 5, 2012 9:03 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Jack's dogs

have no GRIT!!!

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 5, 2012 9:04 PM EST reply actions  

Haha

repeated shots of jack on the bench and crickets as audio…guy saying he doesn’t get excited…If he only knew.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 5, 2012 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

One change Cappy wants

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 5, 2012 9:11 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

and it would be great

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by DarthDoyle on Jan 5, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Son of a bitch

Capuano says secret to Isles success was to acquire a couple more Italians…Mottau/Pandolfo explanation.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 5, 2012 9:21 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

i think instead of more italians

we could use some irishmen, get a little bit o the luck o the irish

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by DarthDoyle on Jan 5, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Jan 5, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd like to say, on behalf of the Italian-American community

That we take no responsibility of the play of either of these players this season. I’d personally rather see Dino Ciccarelli out there than Mottau.

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by PGI on Jan 5, 2012 10:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Too bad Mike Mottau isn't even of italian ancestry.

According to Wiki he’s German-American and the “au” ending in his name isn’t very italian either. Now we could sya DiPi, but that ins’t going to help his argument.

by Hockey1919 on Jan 6, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

YEAH!

he needs three more Hamonica’s another tavaresi and a few Martini’s… Where can you find a Franscisco Nilisoni when you need one?

“hey, baccagaloop… watta yo doo widda dat a puck ay… yoo dink yoo can a juss do da Nilsoni Backhanda di joostees lika dat… datta tayka da practeece!”

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by JPinVA on Jan 6, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

May be true unfortunately we end up with Pauly Walnuts and Freddo.

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by bossy2219 on Jan 5, 2012 9:24 PM EST reply actions  

Garth Snow

bringing TEH GRITZ on the wall…elbows boarding…let em know you’re there.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 5, 2012 9:26 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

He is a big guy.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Jan 5, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Charlie's Bruins socks

REALLY ticked Garth off. He was throwing elbows like Howe out there.

Fun show. Jack seems as laid back off the ice as he is behind the bench.

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by PGI on Jan 5, 2012 10:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

Too bad Cappy isn't a legit fisherman.

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by Fabtraption on Jan 6, 2012 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Cappy should have worn the Fish Stick jersey:)

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by bossy2219 on Jan 5, 2012 9:26 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Unreal

Boston won 9-0 tonight…on the tail end of a back to back after beating the Devils 6-1 last night. They are truly unstoppable right now. Holy juggernaut.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 5, 2012 9:38 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Johan Sundstrom

WJC Champion

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 5, 2012 10:45 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Man, Russia's goalie really kept them in that one

57 saves in a row until he gave up the OT winner. That’s damn impressive.

No Sleep 'til....We Find Some Secondary Scoring

by Anarcurt on Jan 5, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

That was an amazing game.

75 shots total, Russia out shot 3 to 1, and only a 1-0 win by Sweden? Amazing, nail-biting hockey. I’m happy to see a team who hasn’t won gold in 30 years bring gold back to their country.

Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...

by Turgeon1992 on Jan 5, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

The key will be...

the extra years in junior and at least a year in the AHL… but nobody will ever take that experience away from him. I get the joke, but it will make a difference going forward. You don’t think that when they’re all in the NHL that they don’t think about that stuff? these kids mostly all go through the same process, and that tournament is their OLYMPICS, since we had to have DREAM TEAMS to ruin that.

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by JPinVA on Jan 6, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Arthur Staple @StapeNewsday 6m
Dylan Reese arriving in Anaheim to join #Isles for games tomorrow and Saturday vs. Phoenix.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 5, 2012 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

Possibly injury on the blue line?

Or just insurance since Mottau isn’t on the trip? Or insurance against Mottau being there?

Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...

by Turgeon1992 on Jan 5, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Insurance for once Mottau went down

I hope it means Eaton doesn’t see the ice again.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 5, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont know-

I thought that, if there were already 6 guys up and nobody was injured, that Reese would have to go through waivers.
I think he is only waiver exempt if he comes up due to injury.

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 5, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Or Staios

Or Jurcina. Cappy needs a Wheel of Crapitude to figure out who should sit.

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