Islanders Bits: John Tavares Drafted By Some All-Star Team
by Dominik on Jan 27, 2012 6:15 AM EST
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PrintNew York Islanders All-Star and possibly 26th-best NHL player under 25 John Tavares was selected in the 16th round (of 19) in last night's All-Star draft. Logan Couture was your last man standing.
There were rules that mandated goalies going by a certain round and defensemen too, so I'm not sure if you interpret any strategy beyond that.
Read a link to those rules in Keith and Mark's fun fantasy draft piece from yesterday, which also served as a draft thread of sorts as well as a chance to banter with the source of the "Tavares isn't in the top 25?" angst of the past week.
There are more breakdowns at nhl.com and Puck Daddy, where they also have goofy stories like Carey Price being selected while in mid-drink, and something about Scott Hartnell and Joffrey Lupul jockeying for bathroom position during a commercial break. No word whether Corey Perry took the opportunity to crosscheck them.
A few Islanders and assorted links follow:
Top Less Than 25 Links of the Day
- Video with John Tavares after the draft, which he almost missed because of travel trouble.
- The Sound Tigers winning streak finally ended Wednesday, though they made it all the way to the shootout. Mark Katic is bag skating but still a ways away. Perhaps three weeks or so, which is way ahead of schedule.
- Interesting look at how top scorers are used that makes one think maybe Tavares is better than 26th best.
- But Buccigross has him ... well somewhere in the top 50. (Mark Streit is in the 90s on his list.)
- A look at the Islanders defense at the break from The Checking Line.
- Isles State of the Season address at IPB.
- Al Montoya's mask featured at theScore.
- Another evisceration of the officiating the other night versus Toronto by Eyes on the Isles.
- More All-Star musing: The 2012 NHL Defensive All-Star Roster: What if it wasn’t all about scoring? | Puck Daddy
- Here is the TV schedule of All-Star events all through the weekend.
- Strange but cool: A time capsule from Maple Leaf Gardens ca. 1931.
- Trade-gazing: Is Brendan Morrow available?
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Phoenix update: Gary Bettman says there are "probably" three serious suitors to keep the Coyotes in Glendale, and if you bet on that then I've got a case that explains how two average goalies are better than John Tavares.
- Food for Thought Part 1: Americans consider ban on fighting in junior ranks, hope Canada follows suit - The Globe and Mail
- Food for Thought Part 2: Toronto Maple Leafs GM Brian Burke speaks: On the perils of NHL trading | Sports | National Post
- Have the Oilers progressed this season? And hasn't the GM already done too much?
For more serious mid-season talk, we'll have our midseason roundtable up a little later.
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Maybe in biast??? But I dont care!!
I think JT should of gone before the 16th round.
3 Teams 3 Different Sports Same Torture!!!
by Kung Fu Panda 48 on Jan 27, 2012 7:04 AM EST reply actions
So i guess that means that 25 of the 31 people who went before him...
… are under 25, right?
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jan 27, 2012 9:14 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
wow
just realized that JT is playing for torts in the game…this is just so wrong
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by DarthDoyle on Jan 27, 2012 9:14 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
From that officiating article
I can only hope that Garth Snow has made some kind of effort to contact the league. The Islanders seem to take the blatant lack of respect by the NHL in stride and seem to prefer not commenting on issues or saying very little about them
I know some others have said this, and we have no idea if they ever have complained, but with the calls we have seen against our team, and the calls that teams playing us seeem to get, they really do have to speak up. Sooner or later, the question needs to be answered. I think most of us know by now we have been shafted. Ask why, Garth. Act like you care about us, and even though you will never get an answer, ask anyways.
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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 27, 2012 9:30 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
That article got me so mad all over again...I wish Garth would say something to the fans if he does take this up with the NHL..
Let the fans know you are trying to change this bullshit.
unforutunately
this isn’t something the Islanders can just announce to the fans that they have done, unless they feel like being fined.
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i replied to you, where did it go? lol.
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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 27, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
You've played hockey right?
Has complaining about the officiating to anyone (the actual refs, the league) ever helped you?
The only way I’ve ever gotten the benefit of the doubt is to be friendly with officials, more familiar just by being in the league a while, and by keeping my nose clean and playing hard.
I know they’re “professionals” and this shouldn’t matter, but I still have to think there’s a human element to it that after a couple of “hey van massenhoven, how’re the kids?”, he will watch you/see you during the game, and notice the penalties.
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by Keith Quinn on Jan 27, 2012 1:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So you're saying JT's "F---in' joke" comment may not have helped?
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jan 27, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying I want Garth to run down on the ice, and kick a ref's ass
But why can they politely ask the league to look at some of this stuff. That’s all. Bring it to their attention that they know there is a problem. If there is no problem the NHL should have no problem with this.
I on the other hand think the NHL is going the way of the NBA as far as offciating, and that is the reason I stopped watching the NBA.
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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 27, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Let them
Underestimate Tavares. If everybody takes him too lightly, that’s to the Islanders’ benefit right? Of course, the other teams take him quite seriously, but, were he to be traded to, say, I don’t know, Toronto, they’d name a brand of hockey pucks after him.
Scoring from the blue line
I don’t know if this has been mentioned, but at the end of the season, Florida’s Jason Garrison will become a UFA, and right now, he leads ALL defensemen with goals (13) and has 21 points total . While most of them have been on the PP (8), scoring from the blue line is something we need, so do you think Garth might take a look at him?
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His current salary is real low - $700k. So even a nice bump in pay may be a reasonable cost.
Is he any good on D?
He might
But I bet Dale Tallon overpays him first.
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by Dominik on Jan 27, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That short Burke story is crazytimes
Anyone that even thinks they have the slightest clue about what goes on between NHL general managers is out of their mind. I’d say I think Burke is exaggerating, but something tells me he’s not.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
The ASG Mural
That was on the wall at the CNN Center (connected to Philips Arena). As a former STH for the Thrashers that mural was sad b/c of Kovy, Manny Legace, and Hossa (until his trade to Pittsburgh a few weeks after the all star game).
The Atlanta Spirit Group (I still think they’re the worst owners in sports today but I’m biased) has wiped that mural off the wall in recent months to “help” rid the city of any connections to the Thrashers. I’m currently boycotting Philips Arena (usually went to at least a Hawks game or two a year plus concerts) so it will probably be many years until I step foot in that area again.
I sometimes miss the big beers ($6 for 32 oz Sierra Nevada, $7 for 44 oz) in the CNN Center more than I do the lackluster play I saw from the team and MGMT in Atlanta.
-end of ATL-based rant (though it is kind of funny to see no WPG players in the all star game) .
On an NYI note – Glad to see JT get noticed for his stellar play.
Wow, the ASG just keeps exhibiting class
There are so, so many to choose from, but I agree ASG has to be vying for the title. In-fighting and actively destroying your team so much that no one will keep it in town? That’s got to automatically put you in the top 5.
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ASG
Not to mention that they pretty much blocked any purchase of all three entities (NBA Hawks, arena, and Thrashers) by “suddenly” having an exclusive negotiating agreement with the former owner of the SD Padres (John Moores) for just the Hawks/areana during the last month of the Thrashers existence so that anybody who had the $$ to buy all three and rid the city of the owners was not able to do anything until after the Thrashers had already been sold to WPG. And there were reports that people had wanted to buy all three and had decent money ($500 million bid was the report I saw) but the ASG didn’t consider them credible.
I get that Bettman (and Stern) want to rid themselves of these guys as much as the fans did but the fact that Gary never said much during this whole debacle and never stepped foot in Atlanta is more than a little bit disappointing. I know the NHL didn’t own the team like they do in PHX but their lack of any presence spoke volumes to me. While I’ve gotten onboard with the Islanders this year and I still watch the NHL I’ll never forget (or fully forgive) what they did to my hometown team.
If the media ever wanted to dig deep and write a book about that ownership I bet they’d find all kinds of dirt.
by View From 318 on Jan 27, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Welcome
The Islanders bandwagon is always open and accepting applications.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
by PGI on Jan 27, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
who are you kidding
applications, lol. We will hire them for showing up. Worked for Mike Mottau.
by ghalbart on Jan 27, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Garth: Hey, who's that guy?
Trainer: Says his name’s Mottau. He’s some kinda player, I guess.
Garth: How long’s he been hanging around outside the locker room?
Trainer: Couple’a weeks. Drinks water from the slop sink and eats popcorn that’s fallen under the seats.
Garth: Popcorn, eh? I like the cut of his jib. Give him a stall.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
Thanks
Yeah, I jumped on by the end of October or so and after going to a game at Nassau in December (against the Pens) my decision was made. Though the team lost I enjoyed the crowd energy/vibe at that game moreso than my visit a few days later to MSG (or the arena on top of the train station as I’ve seen it referenced here).
Plus being a NYJ/Mets fan from my youth living in NJ it kind of made sense to root for the hockey team my parents watched in the late 70’s (folks are from Hicksville and Douglaston, Queens respectively).
by View From 318 on Jan 27, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A book about that saga is a good idea
Would be nice for more people to know the full story rather than the knee-jerk “Right, hockey in the south LOLz” response.
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and this being my first winter in Georgia
I was actually looking forward to driving up for some games whether it was against the Islanders or anybody else. Now the closest hockey arena is 5 hours away in Raleigh.
What part of GA?
You could check out the SPHL in Columbus or Augusta or the ECHL near Atlanta.
The SPHL is half the hockey, but a quarter the price. And it gets better every year. And my team doesn’t get jobbed by the refs every game.
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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 27, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Augusta has the worst attendance and the best team this season
You should check it out. It’s a good place to meet hockey fans in the south.
I actually met an Islander fan in pensacola last night, and he was from Detroit. He was die-hard and wtahced every game too. Talked about the old guys, and the core, and he even bitched he wanted Haley playing, lol.
It’s not even close to the NHL, but I enjoy it.
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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 28, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He should've been picked in the top 5 imho...
But he was picked #1 where it really matters…
by KO21 on Jan 27, 2012 10:49 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
JT giving 110 percent during his
interview with EJ.
Actually all 4 captains should have relinquished their positions and given the podium to JT. He should have made the choices for both teams and selected himself first for his own team. It would Team Johnny T vs Team NHL refs.
Tavares is number 29 on Buccigross list. Moulson 49...
…of players under, over, and in the vicinity of 25 years old. A few of those in their group 25, released today:
50 Semin
49 Moulson
48 Krejci
…
44 Doughty
42 Bobby Ryan
41 Karlsson
…
38 Couture
…
34 Seguin
33 Zetterberg
32 Suter
31 Fleury
30 Getzlaf
29 Tavares
28 Bergeron
27 Lundqvist
26 Gaborik
Again, value is based on how he would expect a player to perform for this upcoming playoffs, assuming the player is healthy.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jan 27, 2012 12:33 PM EST reply actions
Check out the pictures on some of those entries
Kevin from IPB pointed that out. Moulson’s wearing a Kings jersey, Phaneuf in a Flames jersey, Kovalcuk in a Thrashers jersey and Gaborik in a Wild jersey.
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Bravo, worldwide leader!
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In fairness...
… Berman keeps cracking up the editing staff with those hilarious nicknames. Barbara “Dabba-Doo” Jones! Marketing still giggles every time she walks down the water cooler. It’s pretty distracting.
Besides, Burnside said that it was all up-to-date, and he should know, right?
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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You notice the new sports networks pooping up?
I even see Jim Rome is done on ESPN and is going to be on cbs sports channel. Of course we NBC taking over vs. I think some people see a chanc e to put a dent in ESPN because they suck so bad
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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 27, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
I love how
Matty Mo is all clean cut in the Kings uniform.
I think that is the last time he cut his hair.
I want him and Matt Martin to star in a remake of Point Blank.
Don’t ask me why just make it happen.
LOL
His dad made him cut it a few times here.
But it seems like dads getting less of a say this season!
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Jan 28, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.
The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.
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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.
Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.
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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.
A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.
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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.
Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.
