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Leafs 3, Islanders 0: Can't Win 'Em All

The Islanders have played so well over the past 2 weeks, they decided to up the ante and make tonight's game against the Maple Leafs a little more challenging. Less than two minutes into the game the Islanders decided to see if they could win a game by spotting the opposition a goal, single-handedly putting the Leafs up 1-0.

Mark Streit and Evgeni Nabokov played a game of 'See if you can score on me when I play 10 feet out of the crease' and unfortunately for New York, Streit scored what would be the only Isles tally of the night.

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Star-divide

The other major story coming out of this game was the end of John Tavares' point scoring streak. Tavares had an NHL season high 12 game scoring streak, and there were a couple shifts, including one beautiful rush where he split two Toronto d-men, where it looked like he would easily make it 13.

The Islanders were out shot by the Leafs 35-25, but honestly it wasn't even that close. The Islanders, besides a few good shifts from the first line again, seemed sluggish and, when they needed to step it up a notch, couldn't seem to find the extra gear that was needed.

The team's other 3 lines were so incapable of producing scoring chances that Jack Capuano seemed to ride the Tavares line a little too much, which in the 3rd period lead to the Leafs final goal. Billy Jaffe weighed in on this same point via Twitter:

JTavares 1:07 and Moulson 1:06 shift avg too long...I know Isles need them to score but extended shifts lead to goals agst like end of game

In the end, the Islanders just played a poor game, and when that happens, you more often than not come out on the losing end.

Game Highlights


Game Notes

  • This is the 8th time this season the Islanders have allowed a goal less than 2 minutes into the game. Not surprisingly, they have lost 7 of those 8 games.
  • This is also the 8th time the Islanders have been shutout this season. They haven't been shutout that many times in a season since the 02-03 season.
  • Sticking with the 8 theme, Matt Martin had another 8 hits tonight. Toronto could've sworn it was more like 80.
  • Josh Bailey played another good game with 2 shots on goal, 5 takeaways, and 4 hits, including a bone rattler in the 2nd period. The kid is starting to put forth consistent good efforts, and it makes you wish he'd get some consistently good linemates (I'm looking at you Brian Rolston)
  • With 5 minutes left in the game, Capuano reunited the F'nGO line, swapping Kyle Okposo and P.A. Parenteau, but if this is going to be a permanent reuniting, or a multiple goal deficit grasping at straws, remains to be seen.
  • Andrew MacDonald attempted 7 shots on net, and managed to have every single one of them blocked before they ever reached the goalie.
  • This was one of Mark Streit's less than stellar performances. It was an effort that makes Islanders Nation wonder who the real Mark Streit is these days.
  • Through 58 minutes there was only one minor penalty called in the game, a tripping call on Parenteau midway through the 1st period. By my count, there were at least 6 minor penalties that should have been called in that span.
  • Besides questionable positioning on "Streit's" goal, Nabokov was solid in the 1st period, stopping the other 15 shots that were part of a Leafs' onslaught on net.

Instead of moving one game within NHL .500, the Isles fall 3 games behind that mark. Heading home to face these same Leafs tomorrow night, they'll need a much better performance if they want to start working their way back up towards that mark again.

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TIME TO SELL SELL SELL ON JT!!

While we can still fool someone into trading something of value in return for his marginal talent!

=d

by AP77 on Jan 23, 2012 10:37 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I heard they love him in Toronto

and rank him easily in the Top 22 Under 22

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by Chris McNally on Jan 23, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Very disappointing tonight

We just did not get the breaks, and we played sluggish for way too long. Very disappointed that we came out with no jump, and gave up that early goal yet AGAIN. I thought we were done with that.

The only good thing is I’m predicting that JT’s next scoring streak starts…….tomorrow.

by brother_rat on Jan 23, 2012 10:44 PM EST reply actions  

How long can Rolston continue to get playing time? It's ridiculous?

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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 23, 2012 10:48 PM EST reply actions  

I think I'm going to write something up on it some day this week

but Brian Rolston has 8 points getting nearly 15 mins again. Trent Hunter has 7 points getting 4th line minutes every game. I much would’ve rather had Hunter and $3 mill spent elsewhere than Roslton. And I’m not sure I would’ve said that in July.

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by Chris McNally on Jan 23, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Rolston is fucking terrible. He is Exhibit A in the “this team is run by idiots” binder.

=d

by AP77 on Jan 23, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

He has some anti-JT moves behind the net tonight

It may have seriously been the worst puckhandling behind the net I’ve ever seen in the NHL. And that was right after he missed the net yet again on some selfish slapshot while ignoring his teammates. It’s time for him to go.

The team has been playing well, but he was invisible most of the time. I wish he would’ve been invisible tonight.

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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 23, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I much would’ve rather had Hunter and $3 mill spent elsewhere than Roslton.

I said this in another thread, but then you would have had Hunter next year, instead of the spot opening up. Look at it this way, there should be a lot of spots opening up for youngsters:

Staios, Eaton, Mottau, Nabokov, Rolston, Pandolfo, Wallace at the least should be gone

So your going to have an influx of youngsters, CDH, Donovan, Ness, Cizikas, Ullstrom at the very least, and maybe add DiBo in there too. Hunter would have been an anchor next year.

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by Mark D on Jan 24, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

this theory

can only lead to another 5 years outside of the playoffs.
Sure, these guys have talent, but the Isles need that and experience.

Everyone screamed to get rid of Hunter.
Now you want him back?
BTW, Rolston has a no trade clause, so your stuck with him unles he and Garth can agree on a team to send him to.

Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!! Come, Get some respect a Professional team deserves!!

by Martys301 on Jan 24, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I dont think just bc the majority wanted Hunter gone, you can assume everyone did

I for one, would have been more than ok with him playing on the 4th line like he does now in LA. Gets days off here and there to keep him healthy, bangs and plays D. Plus he’s a guy who is, for arguments sake, an Islander. Theres not many of those on this team (save Rick DiPietro). So yes, I think Hunter in the right role would have been beneficial to this team. A lot more than Brian Rolston is.

The problem with all of those guys coming off the books and youngsters replacing them is Garth has to spend money. And yes some will go to Frans and some (barring a surprise deadline trade) will go to P.A. But there still will be money that needs to be spent. And then does Garth spend it wisely, or be forced to panic and make a stupid deal for a 37 year old cap mule with a $5 mill price tag bc at that point all of the quality FA’s were gone and he needed to reach the cap floor however he could.

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by Chris McNally on Jan 24, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

It's all about Bridges

It’s been said a thousand times, but because the Isles prospect system was so bare, this is what you have to do to get to the future. Everyone complains that Nino is rushed, then complains about the old guys. It’s a balance, and the old guys are filling their role. While Nino and most of the first rounders are a different story, we aren’t rushing the other guys up into the NHL.

The league is still made up of players mostly from before the 2006 draft. Right now there are only 37 players in the league who have played 82 games or more from the 06 Draft. There’s another 39 players who are under 82 games played.

The situation isn’t the best, but in the long term it’s for the better.

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by Mark D on Jan 24, 2012 2:57 AM EST up reply actions  

No one wants Hunter

Some people think that he’d be better than Rolston (I personally don’t. They’re both terrible and should be out of the league). But you’re going to see Rolston replaced this year at some point. You’re going to see some BP kids at defense and forward this year and next. And hopefully a FA on the blueline.

But I’m not sure how playing young guys will lead to five years out of the playoffs. Guys take five years to acclimate the NHL? Since when?

by afrosupreme on Jan 24, 2012 6:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't want Hunter...

If you go back to when the deal was made, my point was that Hunter could be used in a far more responsible role… like PANDOLFO’S. Then you’d have seen Ullstrom, Dibo, Rhett, and if they wanted to spend that extra $3M they could have gone after a much better forward than Brian Rolston.
This was a move to get Lou out of a jam, right after he stole a defenseman we could have wrapped up for 7 years. Why does Snow owe Lou any favors… makes you wonder. Why wan’t the Brian Rolston deal conceived at the draft table?
We’ll take Rolston if you swap picks and we get Larsson.. they get strome couturier and cap space.

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by JPinVA on Jan 24, 2012 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

oops...

“more responsible” should have been “less responsible”

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by JPinVA on Jan 24, 2012 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly right afro

That trade had nothing to do with talent of either party….Hunter was immediately waived by Lou, so that tells you his value. It was late July and there was bubkis for available talent. The term “Cap Mule” is exactly the reason why Garth took on Rolston. He got us over the cap and would take up a spot for only 1 season rather than Hunter’s two.

I ask you, if Garth now has the flexibilty to sign a #3 Dman for the next 5 years (begining in 2012) as a result of this “favor to Lou” will you all admit that the flexibility afforded to Garth was worth the trade?

by 4PeatSake on Jan 24, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

PS

Rolston SUCKS!! So no bias here.

by 4PeatSake on Jan 24, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm still looking for the "benefit"

They gained $3M towards the cap floor, but they cut $2.5M with Comeau. So… that’s $500K they’d have had to make up.
As far as the budget space goes for next year. YOU SPENT $5M this year..
You would have spent $2M this year, and $2M next year… or you could buy him out next year and spend $670K over two years… $1.34M, net cost $3.34M over three years. as opposed to $5M.
And you have a guy the fans liked for 10 years, as opposed to one they HATE for a year.
You also might be able to make Comeau work… there’s no guarentees, but he has been better than Rolston, is younger and has produced as an Islander for 3 years. You can make a decison on him over the off season, maybe on draft day, maybe you just cut him when you have more info on guys like Martin, Ullstrom, Nino and Rhett.
Meanwhile, Lou gets to cut ties with Hunter, and gets rid of a huge problem… Did they say, “the Islanders could really use Larsson”… I just don’t see making deals that benefit your division rivals unless they benefit you MORE… and this has been nothing but negative for us… and PLEASE… NO MORE CAP FLOOR BULLSHIT… I wondeer if they could have given a guy like Wienhandl $3M to make up the difference. Other teams do it.

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by JPinVA on Jan 24, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ll always go with getting rid of Comeau was addition by subtraction, and we couldn’t have gotten rid of him without Rolston

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by Mark D on Jan 24, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

clarification

Cap space is recalculated every day (5 pm); Comeau had already been paid $675,700 by the Isles when waived, so they only lost about $1.82 million. And on top of that, I’m positive they were trying to avoid waiving Comeau. They didn’t make the Rolston deal with “and now we can be rid of Blake!” in mind.

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by mikb on Jan 24, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Having Rolston gave them a buffer with Nino. Without Rolston there was no option that he could have been returned to Portland. Whether they ever meant to or not, we’ll never know, but it seems smart to at least have had the option. The cap floor stuff isn’t bullshit for that reason alone.

I’m not sweating Comeau. He was a younger Brian Rolston, except he shot less when he should have shot more. Either way, a couple of guys out their doing their own thing without much regard for the team.

by afrosupreme on Jan 24, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I think allot of us were baffled with Garths moves...

Hunter, Marty, Meyer and Zeke are all guys I was pissed at Garth for letting go…I think many of us felt this way and now that we were right we are even more pissed off…I think those of us who were against these moves wouldve been happy to be wrong but we weren’t…Marty is hurt but the other 3 are allot better than the so called up grades.

by KO21 on Jan 24, 2012 7:53 AM EST up reply actions  

What about Hillen?

He was no superstar, but he’d have fit in on the third pairing, Of all the players he didn’t retain, this one was the most confusing – an inexpensive player that won;t hurt you.

by martylnd on Jan 24, 2012 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Jack

That’s really the only offseason decision that really bugged/confused me.

by Dorfer on Jan 24, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

now that we were right

When did this happen?

by afrosupreme on Jan 24, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

search me

I only really miss Hillen.

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by mikb on Jan 24, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Rolston was worth the chance early

but after it was obvious that he wasn’t going to contribute, he should have been given the 13th forward./press box slot. If he has to stay for cap reasons, fine. Just don’t play him unless someone needs a night off. (By my count, Old Brian has had about 40, give or take.)

by martylnd on Jan 24, 2012 8:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Rolston was never worth the chance...

not on a REAL TEAM. You don’t spend $5M on a guy that was waived twice and put him in the middle six mix… just so you cna give up on a $2.5M player who scored 34 goals for you last year, and continue the ??? that is Josh Bailey.

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by JPinVA on Jan 24, 2012 8:23 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

he wasn't waived solely for struggling on the ice

The Devils weren’t able to even field a full freaking team for the first two weeks of the year, it was too expensive. And demoting Rolston would not have helped the Devils – his contract counts against the cap no matter what. The Devils couldn’t afford to call up anyone in his place because they had no room, and couldn’t afford to have someone claim him on re-entry and be stuck with half the bill. NJ was simply hoping that someone had a use for him and would claim him for nothing.

He’s never been an awesome player, but he was productive in the second half last season, so he served a need. The Isles were counting on him being an example and maybe potting 30 points (which is still not out of the realm of possibility).

Sure, in a perfect world we keep Hunter and spend that $3 million on Jaromir Jagr, who lights it up. Or Erhoff signs and stabilizes our defense. Or even that Rolston hits the net a little and does a credible job. OR – and this is the big one – Blake Comeau doesn’t completely suck for two months and the Isles can either deal him productively or trust him with a regular middle-six role.

In a less-than-perfect world Garth does what he has to do, and we deal. Go right ahead and hate the Rolston deal. You’ve certainly earned the right to hate it, you were agin from the beginning and you look good on that call. But honestly, losing Blake is not directly connected to Rolston being here. Blake completely screwed the pooch this year, and the Isles into the bargain. They tried scratching him – he was nonresponsive. They tried dealing him – nobody wanted him. They could have left him to rot in the press box, but I get the sense that Garth’s not fond of that option for a kid who did play well at times here, so he waived him – he can go through BPT and get his act together, or some team can take an expensive chance on him and get him a fresh start. Honestly I’m surprised he was claimed, all things considered. And I’m willing to go out on a limb and say that Calgary won’t re-sign him at the end of the year unless he takes a huge pay cut. My guess is he will eventually sign for about half what he makes now, and not as a Flame.

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by mikb on Jan 24, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Ok, that made me smile

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by mikb on Jan 24, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Reclamation Speculation

1. I am not at practice, nor at the meetings between Garth and Jack, but here’s what it looks like to me. They finally get very good production out of the 26YO RH LW Blake Comeau. Going into the off season you are looking for a wing to stabilize the full line and get Josh going a little better.
You’re options:
Hunter is coming off an injury.
Matt Martin earned a shot at it with solid play last year.
Ullstrom had a really good rookie campaign in the A.
Rakhshani earned another NHL shot with a solid rookie campaign in the A.
Nino earned a look.
So what is their solution… Brian Rolston. Where would they have been with Comeau-Bailey-Martin, where Comeau continues on the LW. Or with Ullstrom on the RW? Maybe Parentau drops to that spot when Kyles shows he’s ready for the top line spot, and Ullstrom plays with the defensively responsible duo.
2. Comeau is coming off a 3 point game, and if he starts to contribute like he has in the past (as an Islander) $2.5M is a bargain for a 27 year old. We can check back on that in a few weeks. Blake has had 4 NHL coaches now, and has had some degree of success under all of them. He played for Sutter in junior, and I don’t think CAL takes his salary on if Sutter doesn’t think he can get even more out of Blake. I think this is more about Snow not wanting to deal with Blake’s agent over the summer when he has 6 other options… THAT SHOULD BE IN THE AHL…
SEE BAILEY, OKPOSO, NINO… next on that list.. Strome, Kabanov, Petrov, Lee, Nelson, Casey ???
Moulson and Reasoner are the only forwards out of their RFA years signed for next year.

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by JPinVA on Jan 24, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

That's 2nd Half Comeau

all his production is skewed and the COZOs subside this time of year

by 4PeatSake on Jan 24, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know what to tell you

I’m ready to see the end of Rolston myself. It seemed like a reasonable idea but it’s backfired. At this point the team doesn’t need him on the ice any more.

Comeau, though? I just don’t know. The guy was openly terrible and he destroyed any line he was put on. Believe me, I’d have loved to see him pop a few home in October and November and hold down that spot. Everyone wanted to see him have another good year. Not to go all Gallof here, but I’m on record in comments last season (during TEH CORE discussions) as saying that teams need guys like Comeau – not big stars but who chip in big games here and there in a supporting role, and take the pressure off the first liners. But he wasn’t even doing that much anymore, and was actively dragging down the team.

I hate that he imploded, I hate that he’s gone, and frankly the whole topic makes me itch. There’s got to be a reason why it happened but it’s beyond me to discern. Good ol’ inexplicable hockey.

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by mikb on Jan 24, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Remember too

that Comeau wasn’t even on ice for an Islanders goal, 17 games into the year

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by Mark D on Jan 24, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

:::headdesk:::

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by mikb on Jan 24, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

The guy was openly terrible and he destroyed any line he was put on.

So…he’s the exact same as Brian Rolston.

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by Fabtraption on Jan 24, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

You don't say
I’m ready to see the end of Rolston myself. It seemed like a reasonable idea but it’s backfired. At this point the team doesn’t need him on the ice any more.

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by mikb on Jan 24, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I'm not trolling you or anything

I don’t think there’s a single Islander fan who’s defending Brian Rolston. I agree with you that Rolston + Comeau were both completely terrible. I just find it funny that your assessment of Comeau from earlier in the season can easily be applied to Rolston right now.

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by Fabtraption on Jan 24, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Gaaaah, I screwed that up

That’s my fault. I knew you weren’t trolling. There’s a sarc font but not a tongue-in-cheek font. Sorry.

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by mikb on Jan 24, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Blake Comeau

The Chris Campoli of forwards.

by Dorfer on Jan 24, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

If only

Campoli miraculously landed a first, even though he was probably a worse player than Blake.

by afrosupreme on Jan 24, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

This wasn't for talent purposes

We needed a cap mule so why not spend a few games (not 50) to see if he could play? If lightning strikes, great. If not, then he can be Mr. Press Box. The mismanagement wasn’t getting him (if no other mule options were available) but that he continued to get good minutes (or any at all).

by martylnd on Jan 24, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

If he has to stay for cap reasons, fine.

He’s on a 35+ contract, so his salary counts regardless. Sending him to the AHL only knocks $100k off of his cap hit.

I always figured it was pretty much the plan to give him a shot to play, and when he showed (again) that he couldn’t (still), he’d be sent down or relegated to the 13th forward position. I’m surprised he’s hung around this long.

by elesias on Jan 24, 2012 8:23 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I’m surprised he’s hung around this long.

/Weeps

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 24, 2012 8:39 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

No need

Just click on my screen name and read every post I’ve put up for the past two months.

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by JPinVA on Jan 24, 2012 8:21 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

he has done nothing every night

he isn’t even getting any decent shots. I said last week, maybe bring Nino up a line, althought I know it is his off side. or bring back Ullstrom

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by Rickfansince76 on Jan 24, 2012 2:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Isles lost? Uhh.....

Does this mean we’re allowed to start up again with the Fire Capuano chants and also question why Rolston is still on the team? What’s the ruling on this?

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by mikefromVA on Jan 24, 2012 12:24 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Most of us didn't stop bagging on Rolston after winning 3 straight

He wasn’t the reason.

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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 24, 2012 6:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I know what you are trying to say

But even in the winning streak Rolston was invisible and I was asking him to be removed from active duty. At this point I think he is holding back Bailey, a younger player who could replace him, and the team as a whole.

by GreekIsles83 on Jan 24, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

You know...

I’ve never stopped the GET RID OF ROLSTON campaign… they could win 20, and if he continues to play like shit he continues to be on the shit list.

…and I’ve never waivered from my support of Capuano, and some level of continuity.

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by JPinVA on Jan 24, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I've never said one way against Cappy, he can only do so much

But the whole Rolston only gets bagged on after a loss take is ridiculous.

He’s been getting bashed by isles fans since the trade happened.

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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 24, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

True...

on the other hand, I’ve settled for the Pandolfo signing. I’d much rather see 3 or 4 other forwards with a future getting a chance… but Pandolfo puts forth an effort.
Rolston takes his $5M to the blue line and shoots it in your face…EVERY NIGHT. He is a below average hockey player taking a spot on the roster and making his linemates unproductive. If you have some love for the guy, at least put him on the fourth line, where his productivity can be hidden.

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by JPinVA on Jan 24, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Isn’t there a paradox in there?

by afrosupreme on Jan 24, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I Thought the Leafs Played Very Well

Maybe because they felt the Isles beginning to breathe down their necks, maybe because of the back-to-back. But they really shut down the neutral zone, primarily through the middle, and were lining up at the blueline, Impressive game from them.

On the flip side, the Isles didn’t crumble after the first goal and showed good discipline and poise for must of the game.

by rmblifn on Jan 24, 2012 12:47 AM EST reply actions  

What's funny...

…Is I felt like we couldn’t get through the neutral zone clean much in the first two, yet when Toronto switched to the 1-4-1 Streit, Hamonic, and Reese really pushed the play into the zone.

Think the biggest problem was actually driving to the net. A lot of shoots from the outside; not a lot of traffic in front.

Lack of PP time didn’t help either for a game as close as this one was through two.

by Bleuchz on Jan 24, 2012 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, yeah

in the third they started taking some bigger risks pinching the D up into the play and really overplaying the 1st line (and also playing PAP in KO’s spot). So they got more zone entry and zone time, but they also opened themselves up to the odd-man rushes and bad line changes.

I have no doubt that they could’ve kept the score closer (like 1-0), but in trying to claw back from that one goal deficit, they exposed themselves.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 24, 2012 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

we couldn’t get through the neutral zone clean much in the first two, yet when Toronto switched to the 1-4-1 Streit, Hamonic, and Reese really pushed the play into the zone.

Was wondering this myself. I missed most of the third, but Streit was really struggling again in the first two periods. It seems like when the opposing team gets fast, aggressive forecheckers out against him he has a hard time getting the puck going the other way. I imagine part of it is his injury, age, etc, but I imagine the bigger part of it is the option to swing it across to Jurcina is less than appealing. At least guys like Hillen, Bruno, FMIV could skate the puck out in a situation like that.

by afrosupreme on Jan 24, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

they did, we had very few decent shots

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by Rickfansince76 on Jan 24, 2012 2:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Islanders were outplayed, that's for sure

Clogged lanes, no skating room, shots taken a mile outside the crease. The Leafs had the Islanders on lockdown from the get-go. If not for the first half-fluky-half-sloppy goal, it may have gone to a shootout. The failures were again the Islanders lack of any scoring outside the Tavares line and their inability or unwillingness to change up the strategy on the fly. Not having any powerplay time didn’t do them any favors.

I can accept a loss like this. But it makes the winnable games they threw away against Winnipeg, Tampa Bay, Anaheim and Colorado sting even more.

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by PGI on Jan 24, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Looked like three Leafs collapsed upon JT

every time he got the puck. I wish JT was a little more willing/able to dish off the puck earlier as he attracted the Leafs. Seemed like JT was holding the puck longer than normal and trying to do too much (even for him).

Also wish our Dmen would pinch in to take advantage of the free space deep in the zone as a result of Leafs’ aggressive attack of JT.

by 4PeatSake on Jan 24, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

This team needs consistent secondary scoring! NOW!

Back in 1980, the team needed secondary scoring to deflect all the attention Bossy was getting. Hence the trade for Butch Goring!
JT is a marked man, every team knows that stopping JT is the easiest way to beat the Isles. Until this team get consistent secondary scoring…………well we know the deal.

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Jan 24, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I definitely feel like this was more a game of the Leafs playing extremely well rather than the Islanders playing shit hockey. The first line was monstrous all night, and the FN-Grabs-PAP line provided some good pressure at times, just no luck.

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by Fabtraption on Jan 24, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

OK, Ive calmed down.

I need to remember:
The Isles cannot and will not win game after game after game indefinitely. They will lose games.
Whether the score is 3-0 or 2-1, its still just one loss. What matters is that they do not lose game after game.
The Isles still have a lot of time to have a winning season, which is what I said I wanted to see.

This game sucked, but it was one game. Heres hoping they come out big in the other half of this.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Jan 24, 2012 1:04 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I keep on telling myself...

..that the playoffs are a long shot and the losses are gonna happen.

Then I actually watch the game and my emotions take control. My brain says we can’t win em all, but my heart wants us too.

by Bleuchz on Jan 24, 2012 1:06 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I know exactly what you mean!

Persistent faith breeds constant self-torture. Ah, being an Isles fan! :D

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 24, 2012 1:45 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

WTF????????????????????????

I go away on a four day Florida trip and the Isles loose 3-0 to the Leafs?
WTF is going on here, this LHH crew could NOT pump up our Isles for this game last night?

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Jan 24, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Id LOVE if he stayed around and worked with this team. Love it.

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 24, 2012 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Today boys

you’re going to learn how to get it deep.

by afrosupreme on Jan 24, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Lesson #1

No drop passes. Except for Tavares.

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by PGI on Jan 24, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

He was wonderful

The broadcast last night sounded almost professional.

All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.

by pippup on Jan 24, 2012 7:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Butchie is a good analyst I think

I like Butchie….hes OK with me. His flaws are endeering (the pronunciations and Goringisms are are fun I think).
There are other times when Butch really hits it right on the head with his analysis….thats what 4 Stanley Cups worth of experience does for you.

I was just pointing out that Flatley really adds a different dimension to his analysis. He sorta slows the game down for the fan who enjoys the more analytical parts. I know what you guys thought but I really got the feeling that Peter Ruttgeizer enjoys the analysis between the periods with Flats.

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by FB4Real on Jan 24, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I think hes a horrible analyst....

Jaffe educated the fans and Butch just states the obvious….I will leave it at that because I’ve complained about this enough…

by KO21 on Jan 24, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

you may be right...

but if you’re watching the Islanders you need a different type of “analyst” anyway.

I say this as somebody who has barely missed a game in over 10 years.

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by JPinVA on Jan 24, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't missed many games in years thanks to DVR's...What a wonderful invention..

I took a hiatus during the Gortons Fisherman years. I went to a game and I felt like I was watching a different team…In my mind the Isles I grew up watching didn’t exist anymore. My only regret is that I missed most of Palffys good years as an Islander…I came back again when they put the Crest back and when Wang bought the team…

by KO21 on Jan 24, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought that myself

Flats definitely provided the color commentary that the Islanders definitely lacked.

All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.

by pippup on Jan 24, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

He'd be a great Training Camp Invite

Like the Yankees do with their old greats.
Imagine Flatley for a few weeks in training camp with a guy like Bailey, Okposo, Garbner.

Some nice wisdom. #Isles would be wise to do that with a bunch of the old retired guys….not necessarily the Cup Guys all the time either.

Imagine what Steve Thomas could do to help, or Ray Ferraro.

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by FB4Real on Jan 24, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Its a shame...

we could’nt extend our winning streak, every time we bank three wins in a row we struggle to get the fourth to extend the steak. The team has played well over the last couple of games & unfortunately we just got beat by the better team tonight, but we have have the chance to avenge the defeat tonight. We dust ourselves down,lift our heads up beat Toronto & start a new winning streak & points streak for JT!! Go Islanders..

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by Kung Fu Panda 48 on Jan 24, 2012 3:51 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

true

thats the next goal they should work on…Breaking a 3 game winning streak

by KO21 on Jan 24, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Toronto played well

And cappy was outcoached.

by WRANGLERICK on Jan 24, 2012 5:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Shooting from the blue lines

Is great when you can at least get it on net. Which they are not doing. They need to move up about 15 feet then shoot. I understand they are trying " to keep it simple" but somebody needs to crash the net when these shots are coming in.

by WRANGLERICK on Jan 24, 2012 5:33 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Overwhelmed

was the word I kept thinking last night. The Leafs are built on speed and used every bit of it last night. There were times where they showed the Isles bench during 1st period and they all looked gassed.

Isles have GOT to find away to get production from the other 3 lines. Maybe its time to put Grabs back up with Frans?

Isles rule, rangers suck... that's just how it is.

by Timtropolis on Jan 24, 2012 7:24 AM EST reply actions  

They need a lot more than that, and Frans isn't the answer

He’s a third-line center. The Isles really need a true #2 center. After JT they have third-fourth liners. It won’t happen until next year. I wonder if they’ll sign Nielsen. (They should get him and PAP locked up now, and if they can’t, then move ’em.)

Oh, and a power forward who can score and a couple of defensemen.

(I am either a month late or eleven months early with my wish list.)

by martylnd on Jan 24, 2012 8:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Bingo

You have JT and Moulson and KO. And I would also say PAP because he has shown he can be an offensive player.
But after that, everyone is either at best a 3rd line player, or a role player. I love Martin, but if he was on the third line, that would be the right spot for him. Some of these guys are barely NHL players.

by JackandAce on Jan 24, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

overburdened

Some are being asked to fill roles larger than their talent, and it shows. They’d actually look better at 8-10 minutes a pop rather than being thrust into 16-18 minute role. Then suddenly they’d seem to be a lot more capable and effective.

It’s just one night of course, but Nino just looked different than his linemates last night – Wallace is just too limited and Pandolfo (who actually looked good too) is clearly not an offensive force. It was like watching a thoroughbred colt next to a Clydesdale and a Shetland… the colt’s not ready for the Derby just yet so you can’t run him with the other thoroughbreds, but he’s clearly marked for something other than the farm or the fairgrounds.

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by mikb on Jan 24, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I too think Nino has looked much more comfortable in the NHL game. He has been a little more physical, a little more confident with the puck.
I don’t know what off-season skating program JT took last year, but I hope Nino enrolls.

by JackandAce on Jan 24, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Bails needs a shot at centering the 2nd line...

I don’t understand why Cappy insists on keeping Nielsen on the 2nd line when he is not that good offensively…Bailey has good hands and speed and can set up his line mates with his slick passing…Give him a chance to work with some offensive players…The way the lines are set up now they just don’t work except for the 1st…This team must get balance

by KO21 on Jan 24, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

The reason is that Bailey is fucking terrible and has done nothing — nothing — to earn a shot on the 2nd line.

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by AP77 on Jan 24, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

You are wrong…Hes getting better but hasnt been given anyone to pass too that can score….

by KO21 on Jan 24, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

No, he is not.

More Bailey Excuse Parade, I see. There is always a reason why he’s not producing and, surprise!, it’s never his fault.

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by AP77 on Jan 24, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Normally I’d agree with you, but not really this time. I’ve been pretty easy on Bailey so far this season, but he really hasn’t done anything positive this season.

JackandAce put it very well below:

In all this period of great play by Josh Bailey, during the last 10 games (a streak the Isles as a team have played fairly well), he has 1 point, and is -4.
And this is when he is playing well?

=d

by AP77 on Jan 24, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh

What a fool I’ve been….

=d

by AP77 on Jan 24, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

No its not

KO, its more about the constant posts on here about how well Bailey is playing right now. There is more “Bailey is playing great” schtick than there is I hate Bailey schtick. I think you can go back during any of the past few games and always see people posting how well he is playing.
Based on what exactly? I’d love to know. He has literally 0 point production, he is not good on face-offs, and defensively he is suspect.
What am I missing?

by JackandAce on Jan 24, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he needs a linemate to pass too...

I never said hes been stellar…But he has been getting better…He may never be a big goal scorer but he can be a good point producer if he had a goal scorer on his line…

by KO21 on Jan 24, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Just look above. The Isles lost 3-0, and the one player singled out for good play was Bailey.
“Josh Bailey played another good game…”

by JackandAce on Jan 24, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

He was our worst player last night by Corsi +/-. He hasn’t been playing great during the streak, but he’s no worse than his linemates either.

I have a sense watching the games that he’s playing more aggressively, but his numbers don’t totally back that up.

by afrosupreme on Jan 24, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think many had a great game last night...

I’m just saying that the 3rd line is useless with Rolston and the 2nd line needs a creative center who can pass…I don’t think Nielsen is not offensive as a 2nd liner…I would like to see how Bails handles himself with some offensive players…I’m not saying anoint the guy but at least see if it works…Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is insanity…Try something new…It will annoy me if Cappy moves KO because that defeats the purpose, IMO.

by KO21 on Jan 24, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

His FO% is also 44%, which is fucking horrendous.

MOAR CURSING!

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by AP77 on Jan 24, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

you should know this...

but FO is a reflection of your line’s performance as well. I’d take a look at the subject of most of these posts on FO’s… where does he go when the puck is dropped… if anywhere.
I don’t know for sure, but I’m an educated guesser… I’d bet if he can’t shoot it, he doesn’t even bother fighting for it.

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by JPinVA on Jan 24, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Huh?

If this is right

I don’t know for sure, but I’m an educated guesser… I’d bet if he can’t shoot it, he doesn’t even bother fighting for it.

then Bailey is the worst center in the history of hockey.

I mean, FO% is almost entirely in control of the center.

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by AP77 on Jan 24, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Another way to look at it

If you’re Matt Martin, and the face-off is in the offensive zone, there is a better chance the puck is going back to the other teams dmen and then out, than there is of it going back to your dman for a shot on goal and a potential rebound.

by JackandAce on Jan 24, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

And when that happens...

…there goes much of your 40 second shift trying to get the puck back into the zone. If I’m Matt, I’m looking for much better performance on face-offs.
Statistically speaking, of course.

by JackandAce on Jan 24, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you're on the right track...

but the answer isn’t in pulling Nielsen away from Grabner. It may be swapping Martin for Parenteau. And Nino for Rolston. Thus creating three lines more suited for general purposes.
Offensive second line:
Nino-Bailey-Parentau (better second PP unit)
Defensive Third line, with offensive upside (and the well you draw from for the PK)
Rolston-Pandolfo/Reasoner-Wallace.
When Ulstrom returns he goes on the Nielsen line, Martin slides to the fourth, and Rolston slides to the press box.

The “second” line designation is a matter of TOI.. I still think that Nielsen-Grabner deserves more shifts than Bailey, but at least this shuffle would give Bailey more of an opportunity to EARN that second line designation. I want Nielsen-Grabner togenerate offense via defense and their spectacular PK work. They are fine 5-on-5 without a Parenteau presence, and may be more productive with a Martin like net presence and some physicality. Ullstrom could be the another “transition” asset to Nielsen’s tremendous turnover production.

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by JPinVA on Jan 24, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Agree on PAP SWAP, among other tings

Brian Rolston: It’s time. BE GONE WIT YOU!!!

Frans ‘n’ Grabs belong together against top comp. They could use a space clearer/net crasher of either Martin or Ullstrom. Nino not ready for top comp.

Bailey could really use some help in PAP. I also agree with BenHasna that Bailey can be an effective shooter instead of constantly worrying about carrying puck/feeding linemates if Parenteau were on his line. I like Nino-Bailey-PAP, and yes I am aware that Nino plays the offwing…welcome to the NHL Nino, where YOU need to fit where WE need you, so don’t go all Blake Comeau on us.

So, yeah, Garth and Jack: you wanna get this going, please? If you still don’t wanna call up Ullstrom, then put Rolston on the 4th line with Pandolfo and Wallace:

moulson – tavares – okposo
grabner – nielsen – martin/ullstrom
niederreiter – bailey – parenteau
rolston/wallace – pandolfo – martin/ullstrom

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by Bryan2112 on Jan 24, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

niederreiter

This is all good… I just wanted to do a small exploration into the origin of Swiss spelling rules.

Francesca?

Is it “I” before “E” except after “R”? Just curious.

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by JPinVA on Jan 24, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure someone’s told us who the highest drafted Swiss player was before Nino, right? Michel Riesen. So, nope, it’s not that easy, heh.

by BenHasna on Jan 24, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

Bailey’s best play last night was a pretty decent shot. I really like his shot, they just need to make sure he’s getting it off more often, by teaching him some things, but indeed changing his role a bit.

As for the playmaking last night, he also might have had a couple of good ideas how to set people up, but didn’t look sharp with his passing most of the night. I’ve noticed that quite a lot with his game. I think he has decent vision and pretty good hockey sense, but much more when it comes to reading puck bounces and stuff than reading team mates or defenders. I feel he’s seeing the passing lanes once they’re there – and that’s something at least – but he doesn’t see them develop in advance and also doesn’t realize when they’re closed or what the alternative pass would be. In my opinion that’s why almost every night he’s trying a couple of passes that simply aren’t there…

Can’t see them working too well with Nino on that line, but well, there are no alternatives there, as they’re just one good winger short now. What I’d do once Reasoner will be back is moving Bailey to the wing. Wouldn’t harm them much down the middle, would give them 6 good wingers, would help Bailey. But yeah, not going to happen anyway.

by BenHasna on Jan 24, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Ullstrom ever coming back or are they waiting for an injury?

He is better than Rolston so he shouldn’t have to wait…

by KO21 on Jan 24, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't want to upset...

such important veterans as Brian Rolston or Jay Pandolfo… and I don’t think Wallace has done anything to earn a demotion before Rolston, but it Ullstrom would be an upgrade there as well.
I’d just want to keep Wallace around next year on a two-way. Pandolfo and Rolston need one way tickets, not contracts.

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by JPinVA on Jan 24, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be up for a PA/Grabner Swap

(if they play the same wing? I can never keep that straight in my head)

Grabner is showing flashes of the old FNGO Grabner (and his extra speed might mitigate Rolston’s inertia some when that line backchecks)

PA + Josh could be certifiably Hot As Shit

Still feels weird cheering for Nabokov

by ilopan on Jan 24, 2012 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Be interesting to see

how it goes at home tonight with the last line change. TOR did a good job of getting the matchups they wanted last night, which went a long way to them staying out of the box. Hopefully we can use the change to our advantage in the same way tonight.

by afrosupreme on Jan 24, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

That's not the only reason they stayed out of the box

i saw at least 5 penalties go uncalled.

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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 24, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

The refs let them play

I can’t say they took advantage of it more than we did or not. I’d rather watch that kind of game though, than one where they call everything. But I didn’t see it called in favor of the Leafs.

by afrosupreme on Jan 24, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

They were out muscled too...

The Leafs dmen were towering over our guys….It really makes me wonder if this team is going be able to succeed being so small.

by KO21 on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope KO isnt permantly removed from the top line...

If Cappy messes with teh top line while leaving the 3rd line, that would be backwards…

the first line is the only line thats scoring so it makes sense to change it up and the bottom lines haven't done shit so we will leave them just the way they are

by KO21 on Jan 24, 2012 8:00 AM EST reply actions  

Maybe they'll put Rolston up there...

to give him the shot in the arm, he so obviously needs. And they can move Moulson to the third line, with Bailey.
I really hope they start negotiating with Rolston on a three year deal. We don’t want to have to worry about the CAP FLOOR for the next three years… after that, let the people of Quebec worry about it… well… unless Snow has been taking french lessons.

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by JPinVA on Jan 24, 2012 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Unless in the next CBA

The cap floor is lowered and the need for Rolston goes away forever. Probably not. Give him a 15 yr deal instead …

by Furkmyster on Jan 24, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

And, we're back to this. Again.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Jan 24, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Only 3 years?

We should lock him up longer than that. have you seen how tis kids respond to this “veteran?” What a leader!!

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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 24, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

You're right...

Sometimes I miss his underlying value.

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by JPinVA on Jan 24, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

the biggest issue from last night

Isnt the loss. Its the refusal of the staff to change lines and/or personnel up front despite the complete lack of 2nd an 3rd line production. Even through the modest win run, the world can see its the first line and then zilch, but cappy rolls the same sets shift after shift, telling us nightly that “we have to find a way to get some secondary scoring” while changing nothing. My favorite definition of insanity is “doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results”. Sound familiar?

by randyboyd on Jan 24, 2012 8:33 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

GOOD POINT

this is why i think hes always getting out coached. Im sure he thinks he has to stick to the plan, and while the plan does work from time to time, you gotta be flexible.

by WRANGLERICK on Jan 24, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

exactly my point

But he changed the top line which has been stellar…I want to like Cappy I want him to be a great coach but he sometimes does stupid shit…

by KO21 on Jan 24, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Opponents game plans for the rest of the year

Give the Leafs credit- they played a very smart game. Shut down John Tavares, and you not only get a great chance to win, you most likely will even get your goalie a shutout.
As Howie and Butch noted, it looked like 5 Leafs were around JT every time he was on the ice.
Its easy to game plan the Isles: do everything you can to deny JT the puck, when he gets it swarm him with at least 2 or even 3 players in the vicinity, and don’t allow the Isles many power plays. And be physical with him.
We can expect to see more and more physical play against JT now that 2 points are imperative each and every game.

by JackandAce on Jan 24, 2012 9:01 AM EST reply actions  

Records for the the second game of a back to back

Isles: 3-2
Toronto:2-4-1

No Sleep 'til....We Find Some Secondary Scoring

by Anarcurt on Jan 24, 2012 9:37 AM EST reply actions  

"Josh Bailey played another good game..."

After every game we hear how good Josh Bailey looked. Last night, he did have more take aways. He also was -2, and lost 10 of 14 face-offs.
In all this period of great play by Josh Bailey, during the last 10 games (a streak the Isles as a team have played fairly well), he has 1 point, and is -4.
And this is when he is playing well?

by JackandAce on Jan 24, 2012 10:02 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I haven’t been ranting about Bailey lately, so allow me to indulge: does he fucking suck or what?

Unbelievable. Matt Fucking Martin has more goals and only one fewer point notwithstanding all of the ice time and situational advantages that Bailey is given.

JFC, Bailey.

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by AP77 on Jan 24, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes

I try to be a bit reasoned here in my comments, but I do not disagree with you.
When I watch him, it seems he has very little hockey sense or instinct. He will make a play around a dman, and then make a pass to no one.
I wonder what Matt Martin could do if he had a good center.

by JackandAce on Jan 24, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Why is JT listed as day to day on my fantasy team?

I know they were abusing him last night, but does anybody know anything about this?

BTW, maybe some time for some gritz.

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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 24, 2012 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

Might have

He certainly looked a bit stunned at the end.
Batten down the hatches, JT. Hope your body can withstand the beating its about to take.

by JackandAce on Jan 24, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Just when I thought he was getting more respect

I

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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 24, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

i don't know, that's why i asked.

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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 24, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Something about his wrist

There was a tweet at the end of the game, I’ll try to find it and post it. They said nothing serious when they asked him in the locker room, but apparently he had it iced.

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by CharlieIsles on Jan 24, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thank you

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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 24, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Keith does this better, but....this was after game last night:

Chris Johnston @reporterchris
Reply RetweetedRetweet
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FavoritedFavorite · Close Open Details John Tavares had a bag of ice on his left wrist/hand, but says it’s a routine thing.

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by CharlieIsles on Jan 24, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess that fantasy site wasn't wrong

Nice to see it’s nothing major. he looked beat after that game.

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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 24, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely.

I wonder if we are going to see him wear down as the year goes on. The amount of hustle / skating / power we see from him on a game to game basis, it has to wear on someone.

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by CharlieIsles on Jan 24, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

That is

absolutely frightening.

Also, the bottom line really should read, “from the director of The Housebound Agoraphobe.”

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by PGI on Jan 24, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude, i roared, wow how i laughed.

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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 24, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Howie and Butch are killing me in that shot

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by mikb on Jan 24, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Very good!!

Laughed my ass off.

3 Teams 3 Different Sports Same Torture!!!

by Kung Fu Panda 48 on Jan 24, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Howie, looks like he eats the pipi!

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by Russel Ginart on Jan 24, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

The creativity of our fellow islanders fans

Never ceases to amaze me. that is just classic.

by randyboyd on Jan 24, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

My mind pairs this with the 40th anniversary advert

“Get… YOUR tickets… now.”

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by mikb on Jan 24, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

That is incredible...

You can get it in the director’s box set with…

The Winthrop Patient, starring Rick Dipietro, Mike Milbury and Charles Wang.

Old Mountain, Starring Dwayne Roloson, Brian Rolston and Doug Weight

Played, The Story of the Brian Rolston Deal, Starring Lou, Garth and Brian… special appearance by Trent.

Mr. Wonderful, The Story of Matt Moulson, starring Matt Moulson, John Tavares, and a cast of thousands (brother-in-laws)

Truly Madly Deeply (How I Give up goals on the first shot of games), All Islander goaltenders.

LOOK FOR 2012 RELEASE… BREAKING, ENTERING and MISSING… starring Michael Grabner.

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by JPinVA on Jan 24, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahahaha!
Old Mountain, Starring Dwayne Roloson, Brian Rolston and Doug Weight

Awesome.

by afrosupreme on Jan 24, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

"Breaking, Entering, and Missing"

Grabs is so fast, this already came out last year.

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by mikb on Jan 24, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

The Invisible Man

starring Blake Comeau

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science

by PGI on Jan 24, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

JP's worst nightmare...now on FILM! (someone help w/ photoshop)

"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)

by Bryan2112 on Jan 24, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

If the current trend continues...

this could be a good replacement for “Lighthouse Hockey”.

I believe in ELI! Go Blue!
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by JPinVA on Jan 24, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

nice pshop bryan

Love how seamless Cappy’s head looks there. And is that an ice girl to the left? When did the Isles have Old-Timey Pioneer Uniform Night?

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by mikb on Jan 24, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of Cappy’s head, did anyone get a screenshot of that picture from when he was a Leaf with a mullet?

by afrosupreme on Jan 24, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, amazing

I just knew Butchie was a cuddler!

by brother_rat on Jan 24, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

New Coach of Offseason Skating Development: John Tavares

Go from sluggish to near-Grabner in two seasons!

Seriously, JT looked more Grabner-like on that early breakaway last night than Grabner has much of this season.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jan 24, 2012 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

Anyone else

unable to get into (404 error) today’s preview?

by afrosupreme on Jan 24, 2012 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

here too

Figured it was being re-edited.

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by mikb on Jan 24, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably the Toronto media trying to shut us down

by afrosupreme on Jan 24, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  


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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.

The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.

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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.

Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.

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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.

A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.

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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.

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