The Lost Milbury Files: Bryan Berard
In the last installment of the Lost Milbury Files we went over the case of J.P. Dumont which started when the Islanders were unable to sign him to a deal. That is going to be a continuing trend for the first few of these.
Inexplicably the Islanders organization would have the money to bring in veterans, yet somehow were unable (or unwilling) to give money to youngsters. Even when the team did sign younger players, Milbury tended to trade them before their contract. The few who managed to stick around and see arbitration against Milbury did not have it end well.
Anyway, the Berard story actually starts with the 1995 draft, in which Don Maloney took Wade Redden second overall. Ottawa took Bryan Berard with the first overall pick. Within seven months, one of the odder trades in NHL memory took place. In the end the Islanders swapped Berard for Redden, while also gaining Martin Straka and getting rid of Kirk Muller. After 22 games it was determined Straka was too expensive, he was exposed to waivers and claimed by Florida.
Bryan Berard though was a stud and then some. In his rookie campaign he finished with 48 points, two points behind rookie scoring leader Jarome Iginla. At the end of the season Berard won the Calder, along with being named to the NHL All Rookie team. The future was looking bright for both the team and Berard. But while he had a repeat point performance (46) in his sophomore campaign, his minus-32 was not just worst on the team (by 13) but fifth worst in the league. He was still young and plenty of players have bounced back from tough sophomore seasons.
The Goaltending Issue
Of course there's the little problem of the Islanders goaltending woes. Not really woes, but more like Milbury despised Tommy Salo. This despite Salo being one of the best goalies to come up through the Islanders system since Kelly Hrudey. Salo was the first starting goalie in years to be the starter the following year. I actually had the joy of watching his run with the IHL Utah Grizzlies to the Turner Cup. I was amazed that he was a part of the Islanders while we were watching McClennan, Soderstrom and Fichaud struggle to sub-.900 SV% seasons.
In 98-99 though it was playoffs or bust for Mike Milbury, who had installed himself as coach again. While the team started strong, a 7 game losing streak at the end of November into December put any playoff hopes on life support. An injury to Salo left the Islanders with Wade Flaherty and Marcel Cousineau to pick up the slack. When your hoping to be a playoff team while outside the bubble, any points lost are important. Flaherty and Cousineau could be considered point sieves.
Felix "Not Quite Cat" Potvin
Felix Potvin had been an outstanding goalie for 6 years in Toronto. He was one of the key reasons the Leafs got to back to back Conference Finals in his rookie and sophomore years. But Toronto decided to jump on Curtis Joseph when he became a free agent. The plan was to either have one of the best goaltending duos in the league, or trade Potvin for another important piece. But since every GM in the league knew the Maple Leafs were going to have to trade Potvin, they couldn't get a fair offer for him. So they began the season with both goalies.
To make matters worse, when Potvin did start for the Leafs, he proceeded to turn in some of the worst performances of his career. Of his five starts for Toronto, only in one game did he manage a SV% above .900. That he went 2-3 in those 5 starts were more due to the team then anything he did. Eventually it was decided that it was better not starting Potvin (who eventually refused to report) then to keep starting him and have his trade value drop even more.
The Trade
In what might have been one of his most short-sighted trades, Milbury dealt Berard for Potvin pretty much straight up. It was a jaw dropper then, and still is when you consider the amount of potential Berard was flat out oozing with. Not only that, but for a team that continually struggled to score goals outside of Ziggy Palffy, trading away someone who was 4th and 3rd on the team in points in his first two seasons doesn't help. Also Berard was great on the point for the power play too.
The logic, short-sightedness and impatience of Milbury is captured perfectly by one of his quotes at the time:
"This is a good young player and there were certain things that we saw and certain flaws that we tried to address and correct," Islanders general manager Mike Milbury said. "Some we had success with and others we didn't. Perhaps Toronto will have more success with Bryan.
"He did come a long way defensively maybe at the expense of his offense. Maybe they'll find the right blend in Toronto."
Essentially, we gave up on a 21-year-old who already has 119 NHL points from the blueline because we're already out of ideas.
At least Potvin was only 27 at the time of the deal, instead of being over the hill (Linden). Not quite shockingly though, Potvin didn't work out with the Islanders. He played 11 games down the stretch in 98-99, losing his starting job back to Salo in almost no time flat. He would play a total of 33 games for the Islanders as he was eventually traded (with a 2nd and 3rd round pick) to Vancouver for Kevin Weekes, Dave Scatchard and Bill Muckalt.
Potvin struggled in Vancouver and was eventually dealt two years later to the Kings for a conditional pick. While with the Kings (and former Islanders teammates Ziggy Palffy, Bryan Smolinski), Potvin would recapture some of his earlier magic. He helped lead the Kings in a first round upset of the Wings and proceeded to push the eventual Stanley Cup champion Avalanche to a 7th game before being knocked out. Potvin went on to be the starter for two more seasons in L.A. before a one year stint as Andrew Raycroft's backup in Boston. At the relatively young age of 32, that's where Potvin's career ends.
For Berard though, it's always going to be a career of "What if?"s. I remember Toronto fans raving about him when he first started with them. He quickly turned around his defensive problems, going +7 in 38 games after being traded. He then put up 9 points in 17 playoff games helping the Leafs get to the Eastern Conference finals. Unfortunately on March 11th 2000, the Leafs were playing the Senators and Berard's eye was clipped by the stick of Marian Hossa. This caused a slash on the sclera which resulted in a retinal tear and a detached retina. Berard nearly lost the eye in the emergency room that night.
The injury was so bad that Berard's insurance company actually paid out, as it wasn't believed he could return to the game. He sat out the 00-01 season, going through 7 surgeries to get his vision to 20/600. Even then, he still needed a contact lens to get his vision to the league minimum 20/400. Berard returned the insurance settlement and started playing hockey again. Trying out for and eventually making the Rangers 01-02 team. Unfortunately Berard was never able to match the player he once was. He played with 4 teams in 6 seasons, with the Rangers, Bruins and Blackhawks all walking away from him after one year stints.
Berard's final NHL season was with the 07-08 Islanders, he made the team after getting a training camp invite. He led all Islanders defenseman in points that year, despite playing just 54 games. In 08-09 he was invited to training camp with the Flyers, didn't make the team and eventually played 25 games in the KHL. He was 31 during his last pro season.
I once debated the Berard for Potvin trade with someone, who proceeded to inform me that because Berard got hurt, it was a good trade for Milbury. The chances of such a serious injury happening are so miniscule, that you would have to believe if he had stayed on the Island it wouldn't have happened. That he was able to recover and make something of a career of it after the injury shows how much talent Berard had. It's just unfortunate that his career was basically cut so short.
Urban Legend
So why do you trade away a young hot shot Calder-winning defenseman for a goalie whose been struggling big time? Without getting too inappropriate -- and just to illustrate the extreme reaches of the rumor mill -- one rumor/urban legend circulating at the time was that Berard took a romantic interest in Milbury's daughter, much to Milbury's dismay.
Of course I should point out that I can't even verify the presence/age of any Milbury's daughters (don't want to get creepy here). But it just shows that these urban legends about Milbury's trades exist, or get fanned, because the trades were so outright crazy and demanded deeper reasons. People dig a bit too hard to make sense of them, and fans desperate for an explanation will consider anything.
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I know it is just a lazy thing of me to say, but knowing
what I know of Milbury pre -Islanders, an now some of his antics on TV etc, I just think he is fucking crazy, thats it.
I used to think he was incompetent, but as time goes on, it is just can be explained by one mans lunacy
Berrard was my favorite player at the time
As a kid I was devastated by that trade. This is the one that pretty much signaled everything that would come for me.
Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.
Same here, I was in my teens. Then again there were a lot of devastating trades and somehow I stuck it out until 2001.
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If its got the regular logo I know people who would buy it off of you
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Jan 19, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Likewise
People see my wave jersey with the classic logo and go WTF?
The best is scoring on a pick-up goalie while wearing that jersey though. I mean, talk about insult on top of injury.
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Man, the waves were ugly
Both with and without Gorton. And they didn’t even make the players look bigger.
I used to make every real-life trade on my version of the EA game, to keep it "real"
When this one happened, as a stall tactic I just didn’t resume my season for a while.
(Aside: I can’t remember if this was the year I had to “create” Salo and, of course, made him a 99-level god.)
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Curious
Did you do this for all trades, or just the Isles?
I want to know just how crazymeticulous you are.
*ashamed*
Every one. Every. Stinking. One.
Which made occasions when the battery in the cartridge failed (and wipe out the season) absolutely maddening. All that work destroyed, and the only thing you can blame is a stupid piece of plastic and silicon that you really ought not destroy.
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That's pretty awesome
I’m impressed. I heard later versions of the game did this via internet, which seemed cool, though I never played the game under any realistic conditions.
You answered my follow up below. Was wondering if it was newspaper transaction list, or Hockey News. Bottom Line must have been the quickest way though. Also-can’t believe ESPN2 has been around that long. Crazy.
Yeah, that was a weird 2012 realization just
That there was a window when I got up-to-date hockey transaction info not from the newspaper and not from the Web, but from … ESPN!
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ESPN2 Bottom Line
Was essential for all the silly, stupid little transactions that I still needed to account for throughout the league.
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NHL 96
I remember creating Marcel Cousineau and, because the Islanders in the game were incredibly terrible, he would be a 99 goalie. Just because.
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Good but bad
This was well written and informative. But at the same time its opening wounds and igniting old anger. A guy with absolutely no hockey knowledge couldn’t damage the franchise as badly based on sheer probability. I look forward to the day when I can laugh these stories off in the glow of a successful cup run.
If popular opinion wants
I can put a hold on these until the summer?
I just have a bit of love for history, and I was around for Milbury and not for the 4 cups in a row.
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No way, do your thing!
I meant it more as a critique on the Islanders situation than your timing. Going over the details of just how awful Milbury was for our youth and adulthood mades me angry. What I really mean is I can’t wait for stories like these don’t make me so because they will be a footnote a great franchise.
Right now its what a lot of the hockey world remembers us for. Blast away!!!
by GreekIsles83 on Jan 19, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Coda...holy [Avery] let me try that again
What I really mean is, I can’t wait for when stories like these don’t made me so mad because they will be a footnote to a great franchise.
Kids, stay in school, and learn to proof read!
by GreekIsles83 on Jan 19, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
DO NOT STOP
doing these. I think if you can come up with 16 of them, we should have an in forum debate over the summer (you know, that period between the beginning of the playoffs and the Junior Draft/Free Agent Frenzy, when the Isles aren’t playing) and have a bracket vote to confirm for all time the Worst.Milbury.Move.Ever. We’ll have to come up with some fancy name for it, but it could be enshrined at the Hall of Fame or something.
STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jan 19, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Ehhhh
I think if we did that it would come down to the Luongo trade or the Yashin trade.
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Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
I love reading these
However, perhaps waiting for the summer might be better because nothing goes on with hockey during the summer (free agency aside, since we can’t sign anyone anyway) and they’d be a nice read in the summer.
by sayvillelax94 on Jan 19, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
I got up to the quote by Milbury pertaining to Berard and was so filled with rage I had to stop reading.
Milbury’s quotes are really something else, especially with Hindsight. New York Times archive is great for that.
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Thanks, dude. Love this stuff.
I’ve said Berard for Potvin was the worst of Milbury’s terrible deals because it makes no logical sense from a playing perspective. They had a goalie. Why put yourself in the same shitty position the Leafs were in? And why do it with a Calder Trophy winner? Same with Luongo & Jokinen for Parrish & Kvasha. It was astronomical potential for mild potential. At least Yashin was a known (and talented) commodity when the Islanders got him.
But this was fueled by either his hatred of Salo, his impatience with Berard, a panic for the playoffs or some other reason we don’t know about. I remember Milbury having some harsh words for Berard’s agent Tom Laidlaw at the time and thought that may have been a factor as well.
PS: He won over Iginla? Holy shit I forgot that. Wow.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
by PGI on Jan 19, 2012 2:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
If I rate the reasons for the trade its
A: Panic for the Playoffs: Milbury had a 5 year plan, and the 3rd year he claimed the team would make the playoffs. The previous season he had already traded Bertuzzi and McCabe for Linden to “get the team over the hump” and into the playoffs. The December swoon really killed their playoff chances, and the injury to Salo despite only being a 2 week injury would have put them in a bad spot if they lost every game.
B: Hatred for Salo: I have no idea why Milbury hated Salo so much. But everything Milbury is quoted saying about Salo was basically proven wrong by the rest of his career. Salo might not have been an elite goalie, but he was an NHL level starter who might steal you some games, cost you some games but in the end you were ahead. I mean the defense is probably just as much to blame for Salo’s struggles.
C: The Agent: Berard had signed a 3 year deal originally with the Isles, and was dealt halfway though the 3rd season. Not surprising at all.
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Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
Having a fine year plan works great
If you don’t change the plan every season.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
LOL
it makes no logical sense from a playing perspective. They had a goalie.
Oh, man, this describes a few different Milbury occasions, doesn’t it? Oh, grief.
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What is the equivilant today?
Who would replace Berrad and Potvin in this situation today? (Discount the cap for now)
There really is no equal to Berard on the Isles rightnow. The closest is Hamonic, but his #‘s aren’t close to Berard’s first 2 years. So the best Isles situation is trading Hamonic for Varlomov or Bob…and the reaction to those trades would may be that the Isles ripped them off.
Leaguewise, the best I could think of offhand would be the Ducks trading Fowler for Jimmy Howard or even something insane Doughty for Ryan Miller*.
*While Miller is clearly better/more talented than Potvin, is it THAT much of a stretch to say he is the equal here? It’s not like Buffalo has ever won anything with him & only got the CF once…
Just off the top of my head and a look at past Calder winners
I would say that it would be like trading Grabner for Andrew Raycroft or Steve Mason.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
I was just thinking Mason would be the perfect comparison. Still young, still a lot of potential but obviously struggling. It would almost definitely be like if the Islanders traded Hamonic who is seriously underrated by most of the league.
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Doughty for Ryan Miller
That’s a good one.
by barry_hal_oliver_24 on Jan 19, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
So why do you trade away a young hot shot Calder-winning defenseman for a goalie whose been struggling big time?
Because you’re Mike Milbury
by barry_hal_oliver_24 on Jan 19, 2012 2:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Thanx for the research and goodwrite-up.
Question: Where is Berard now?
I don't even remember Berard on the '07-'08 Isles
then again, I don’t remember the ‘07-’08 Isles at all. I think I had that part of my brain removed by aliens, or something.
My first year regularly blogging the team (alas, archives lost)
So I remember it too well.
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Only like six posts or something
And they’re formatted all wrong and the links are gone and … yeah, I didn’t expect the network to collapse and destroy itself.
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Thanks Mark
I’m so angry. On one end of the spectrum is 4 straight cups. On the other is this douche.
Being born in New York and rooting for the Islanders, Jets, and Mets. Yeah, I know.
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great job rehashing all of these
anger inducing trades by Milbury that made us a laughing stock.I feel like I forced some of these horrible trades out of my mind like they were some sort of trauma.It almost makes me feel alot better about the current teams struggles. But know we have gone the exact opposite of Milbury and now make NO trades. Funny and sad at the same time. Its amazing to think how we could have stayed relevent all those years and possibly into today had Milbury not been allowed to just murder the talent pool.
Trading time will come
It will (or else Snow will have failed). Gotta trade from strength/surplus. In order to get surplus/strength, you gotta build it first.
I’ve always thought the toughest part of a rebuild for the manager (assuming he has security to stick it out) is not keeping patience through the bottoming-out, but rather the decision-making when the cupboard is full and expectations are high.
Looking at Ken Holland’s trade history, some of them were regrettable but he had the depth to recover.
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yeah you are right
I have been paient I have( i believe in the rebuild) I just wish it would move along a little tiny bit faster.
I hope so
Honestly, I’m nervous: I don’t totally know how Snow will handle a true asset-for-asset trade (conditions, and maybe his acumen, have changed since the last time he was in that market). I just don’t think the time/opportunity has arrived yet.
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Yea but will the time arrive.........
before the moving vans and buses are lined up outside the NVMC in 2015?
Should.......................................
but that’s an unknowable unknown right now.
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Go to your happy place
STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jan 19, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Mark..
I have to ask.. While these pieces are interesting and very well written, are you just trying to give me migraines?
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by Mark D on Jan 19, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Step 4: Profit!
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by Dominik on Jan 19, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anybody who's pissed about Garth's rebuild of the team
should really take a read of these articles. These are great, and highlights just how much Milbury fucked over this franchise. Berard was one of my favorites when I was in middle school, it really was a tragedy what happened to his career.
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by Fabtraption on Jan 19, 2012 4:04 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Definitely dont miss those days....
although we’re far removed from those days, we’re still ways off of respectability. Pretty much after Turgeon i remember every year saying to my friends, man if they trade this guy im done as an islander fan. And so went berard, palffy, kasparaitis, etc etc…and here i am today, still clinging to hope.
"But he loves me
and he says he’ll change."
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Another rebuild
that didnt work……….and Ive been watching this team rebuild since 1985
I watched a lot of Leafs hockey then as it was the only game on TV: Potvin was already damaged goods, and all of Ontario knew it
Potvin had a serious injury with his catching hand, and was never the same goalie again. I remember when the trade went down, Leafs fans were ecstatic, I wish I had a dollar every time one asked me suspiciously why the Isles dumped Berard? Point is, every Leafs fans knew all about Potvin’s glove hand injury and how he wasn’t the same player anymore…why didn’t Milbury?
If not for Hossa’s high stick to Berard’s eye, he would have been great, and was already well on his way in Toronto. That injury was a defining moment for that hockey team, it was a huge, huge loss. Berard was well on his way to being an NHL first pairing D on any team.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Jan 19, 2012 7:13 PM EST reply actions
SO...ANGRY...
I had almost blocked out the details of that transaction. Thanks for the refresher! I had heard the same rumor about Berard’s relations with a Milbury daughter from a former NYI employee. it still doesn’t make sense from a Dad’s point of view. If this were true, why wouldn’t he just beat the piss out of him instead of trading him for a declining talent, big money goalie? Why? Because he is Mike Milbury, that’s why.
"Hating the Rangers since before I was born."
by Carl Rackie on Jan 19, 2012 10:41 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Straight from the man himself...
I won’t reveal my sources, but here you have it: “LOLLLLL
Everythings true except Milburys daughter part. NOT TRUE She was like 12 at the time BAD RUMOR.” I haven’t met him but supposedly he’s a really cool guy.
I think MMs daughter was in love with Caber, not BB.
MM even mentioned that she was going to kill him after the trade in an interview.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Jan 19, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
Me and Dom both checked, and Milbury did have a daughter of age at the time Berard was an Islander.
We also aren’t saying that it’s true, just bringing up the urban legends that surround almost all of Milbury’s trades.
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Even IF that was the impetus for the trade
FELIX POTVIN??!! C’mon!
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
similar rumours still exist in other cities
montreal rumour is chris chelios was traded to chicago even though he was already one of the top young right d in the league, b/c he was sleeping with the owner of the day’s young wife…
i’ve also heard the buffalo rumours that nolan and hasek had a falling out after nolan slept with hasek’s model wife..
and of course, the great al iafriate who just didn’t seem to be stable up stairs, apparently gary leeman slept with his wife, which is apparently why john kordic have leeman a beating,,,kordic and iafriate were both moved.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Jan 20, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions

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