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Islanders Bits: In which Dolan says the Cup is nigh. Which is awesome.

Must...kill...the Queen. Must...kill...the Queen.

NHL.com's Brian Compton (who has taken to posting all kinds of fun factoids late each night @BComptonNHL), noted that the Rangers "are off to best start through 44 games in 40 years. 1971-72 squad got off to a 30-7-7 start."

That's nothing compared to what James Dolan did last night, in what were his first Rangers comments to media in ages. Essentially, he said he sees the Stanley Cup is near.

Which is excellent, of course. Because he probably thinks being in first place right now means they're right there. And he's a tycoon living in a bubble, so he probably doesn't get how these comments will be trotted out for every Rangers losing streak and for every year they fall short over the decades as 1994 feels more and more like 1940.

With the silliness of New York media (not individually, but as a single, self-defeating race-to-the-LCD kind of ecosystem) and the insanity of the legions of vocal fans who call in to sports shows to rant about whatever grinds their gears ("I tell ya P.A. Parenteau's no good!"), this is just a bad idea. The Rangers are playing swell right now. They should rightly be happy. (Of course, if they miraculously got to the finals, well...other teams are hot.)

But their owner shouldn't be pulling media aside to rave and talk of the Cup (nor "that thing," as he put it) and giving Rangers haters timeless material. Not now. Not in January.

Star-divide

Islanders: About Last Night

Recaps from: Us | Newsday, with Isles players seeing the same things we did | IPB recap by Keith, I mean Schultz (LIAR!) Japers' Rink, where they're quite bummed by the Caps effort | Wash. Post (they're no longer the "second-worst" in the conference, by the way | "Worst loss of the season" per Kings of Leonsis

Matt Martin on the win in front of the fathers, who are on this trip (can't really think of anything better than a dads trip like this, honestly):

Nice to get a win for the fathers, but I think they were doing more than just watching the game tonight

Good times.

Capuano on Last Night's Game


The Players on Last Night's Game (Nabby, PAP, Hamonic)


Hockey Links

Ahhhh, so THIS is what it takes for Dion Phaneuf to pretend that NHL players should be accountable for dirty hits: The dirty needs to happen TO him, not by him. Good to know. (Foligno is a cheap little devil, so it's always satisfying when cheap takes out cheap.)

This is funny, and it's great when reporters' feelings are hurt: Colorado writer upset by Semyon Varlamov not talking after a 6-1 loss. Can't you see how it harmed his game recap? (In truth, i empathize with reporters who get the cold shoulder from time to time, but when they pout about it everyone just looks bad.)

Is Ryan Kesler impervious to criticism?

The Sabres are in trouble, looking for answers. Supposedly they're after some sort of top six-for-top six trade, but who wants to do that with what they have to give (rentals and guys on long contracts)? Ryan Miller says a trade would be ridiculous anyway.

Sean Courturier scored again last night (shorthanded) and is good. Except on faceoffs. But that will come as he learns the league.

Frightening but alright (plus 40 stitches or so): Taylor Hall takes teammate’s skate to face during warmups (Video) | Puck Daddy

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Updated links to include Hockey Prospectus update 1-25

Good news on Kirill

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 18, 2012 6:54 AM EST reply actions  

That little bit on Kirill is great

I’m really hoping he and his team do well in the memorial cup this year, and from what the prospect roundups are saying about him vertigo stronger on the puck and his scoring, I can’t wait to see him next year

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by DarthDoyle on Jan 18, 2012 9:44 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

from what the prospect roundups are saying about him vertigo stronger on the puck and his scoring

….?

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Jan 18, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

jinx

you owe me a coke

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by bob l on Jan 18, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now tell us how long did you have to work on this?

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Jan 18, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

2 minutes

It’s a U2 song. I just changed a few lyrics.

Still waiting for a GOZO

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 18, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

well done sir

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by bob l on Jan 18, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

vertigo stronger?

do we have another case of autotext fail?

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by bob l on Jan 18, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

yes we do

somehow my droid changed getting to vertigo

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by DarthDoyle on Jan 18, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

wow my phone is messed up, was supposed to be getting

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by DarthDoyle on Jan 18, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Good news

on the character issue, but there is this:

I would still like to see him produce at the level I can think he can, especially since he’s 19 in the QMJHL on a good team.

which is sort of how I feel. He hasn’t played badly, but at his age, in that league he should be absolutely dominating if he’s as good as we think he is. I’d like to see that happen at some point.

by afrosupreme on Jan 18, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

That’s why I asked what sort of minutes he’s getting. But top-line forwards in the Q have very dominant seasons, like 80-100pts.

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by edavidmorris on Jan 18, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

He also missed camp and some of the start of the season.

But I think that his real problem is that he’s a really hot/cold type of guy. When he’s cold he’s getting an assist here, an assist there. But when he’s hot he’s dominating games.

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by Mark D on Jan 18, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too

Nice others are recognizing his talent at least. But I want more, more, more!

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by Dominik on Jan 18, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

And I say more, more more

Because it’s so important that the Islanders get some above average players through draft gems, since that kind of player isn’t lining up to take what UFA change they have to spare.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jan 18, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

However

I think he may be another that is really focusing on his defense. It’s hard to tell how he’s being used, but I look at his boxscores a lot and he is rarely on the ice for a goal against. It was supposed to be a point of contention, so if he is improving on that and still over a PPG, I’m not sure that’s such a bad thing.

Again, haven’t seen any games, so can’t be sure.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 18, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Also

I’m not worried much about his offense…I feel like that is a given for him.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 18, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Focusing on “X” meme concerns me as an excuse for non-production.

As a dman, next time I make a stupid play in my own zone on my beer league squad, I’ll just tell the guys: “No worries, I’m focusing on offense right now.”

=d

by AP77 on Jan 18, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Ahhhh

Now I understand Mottau/Eaton/Staios/Jurcina….

by afrosupreme on Jan 18, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

It could be

or could not be…hard to tell without watching the games or really having access to good stats. I hear you though, the Q is a haven for high scoring, so it could be disturbing..but I’d imagine playing D at the Q would make you a stud also.

Like I said, he’s still 3rd on his team in PPG and third highest +/- wile only playing 29 games. I mean, crap, Pronman has him 13th.

Here’s the Shawnigan page…I have no idea what those column headings are though…translate doesn’t even let you know.
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Flhjmq.leaguestat.com%2Ffr%2Fstats%2Fstatdisplay.php%3Ftype%3Dskaters%26subType%3D14%26seasonid%3D168%26leagueId%3D1%26lastActive%3D%26singleSeason%3D%26confId%3D0&act=url

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 18, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Always a concern, but happens all the time with kids

The O-talented ones have grown up all their lives being tossed out there because they can score, own-zone be damned. Then when the talent of competition is closer … adjust or be Schremped.

Don’t know if you saw it in that link, but Pronman used this theory on Strome this season.

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by Dominik on Jan 18, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I did and that concerned me as well.

I like my prospects dominating juniors like JT/Taylor Hall/etc.

=d

by AP77 on Jan 18, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

It is much preferred

Too many of them are just etc.

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by Dominik on Jan 18, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate when they look good

and they do…but man, Boston is going to be tough to knock off.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 18, 2012 7:13 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

He also thinks the Knicks will rock each year

I won’t discount the Rags’ hot start, but the man has no idea how to run a sports team. “Winning” the Dolan way means maximizing profits.

Having semi-competitive or flashy Rags & Knicks brings folks in and allows him to jack up ticket prices.

by brother_rat on Jan 18, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

reminds me of how the Rangers would go 9-1-1 in the preseason and act like they were the best thing to hockey, and the sports writers would anoint them as cup finalists.

My dad always referred to this as “they won the Coffee Cup again – best record in the preseason!”

still, i’m gonna channel the spirit of John Druce a little early this year, just for ol’ times sake.

by nullzero00 on Jan 18, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Setting aside whatever those Cablevision idiots say, it’s probably time to come to terms with the fact that the Rangers are legitimate cup contenders, which is very annoying.

=d

by AP77 on Jan 18, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The Rags are palying well, BUT there is just something that they are missing when playoff time comes!

They are NOT going to be one & done, NOR are they going to the finals! When playoff crunch time comes and all the chips are on the table, they will be crunched by the Flyers or the Bruins!

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Jan 18, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Contending

Only makes the fall all the more delicious.

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by Dominik on Jan 18, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Their chances live and die with the Queen

without him they aren’t contending for anything.

Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.

by ArsenalLI on Jan 18, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

They have the potential, but it’s moronic to say they will now

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by Brandon C. on Jan 18, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Man, I wish I was a fly on the wall when Torts heard what Dolan said.

by TA on Jan 18, 2012 7:10 AM EST reply actions  

Buzzzzz (these are real)

Katie Strang @KatieStrangESPN
#NYR Torts (albeit good-naturedly): “I have my owner up here talking about the Stanley Cup. I think that’s a bunch of bullshit.”

Chris Botta @ChrisBottaNHL 8h
(Since it won’t make my newspaper) Tortorella: “I have my owner talking about the Stanley Cup. That’s a bunch of bullshit.”

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 18, 2012 7:13 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Oh yeah, I caught those. And it’s brilliant. But if thats what he told media, I can only imagine what happened with the doors closed.

by TA on Jan 18, 2012 7:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably not much

Havent we all heard our bosses say something that you know is ridiculously wrong? You cant exactly bash them for it.

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 18, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yay Honesty

Nice to hear Torts call him out. Although, I hope this curses their recent good fortune. :)

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by pippup on Jan 18, 2012 7:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Did I miss something?

When did Botta buy the New York Times?

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by PGI on Jan 18, 2012 7:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Botta

Is now apparently short for Sulzberger.

by brother_rat on Jan 18, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Not impressed by Avery's cache

If Dolan’s band were any good, they could get into clubs without Sean Avery.

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by mikb on Jan 18, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, maybe we're on to something here

The deal must’ve been they had to keep Avery until Dolan’s teams were good enough to get into clubs on his own recognizance. So the “thing” he gave Sather must be Avery’s release papers, which Sather can sign and submit once the Cup is theirs.

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by Dominik on Jan 18, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

If nothing else...

I’m consistent.
Great win last night. The best thing about last night was how frustrating their stick work was. It was hard for the caps to get anything going through the nuetral zone and in their offensive zone. The Isles seemed to get a stick on everything… 17 shots against… that’s incredible.
Brian rolston needs to go. He either can’t keep up, or he just doesn’t have it anymore. Three lines buzzing, and the Bailey line. Bailey looked strong on the puck, Martin was playing his physical game… and there’s Rolston skating around center ice with his stick in the air. PP.. awesome.. except.. well… you know. It is definitely time to get Nino up a wrung, and Rolston down one. If he’s embarrassed by that he can hide his shame in the press box. Haley could very easily replace Rolston on the fourth line for Philly. Give the ol’ man a few games off.
Reese in, Staios out. Excellent timing. I don’t think Staios has sucked, but I think Reese earned another game or two.. if it ain’t broked… don’t fix it.
And I’ll also give Pandolfo some credit for a terrific game. He has the hands of sturgeon, but he was hustling every shift, blocking shots and playing his best all season. A little chicken/egg with Nino’s advanceent as well. Nino has been better of late. Maybe the bad juju is between Pandolfo and reasoner… who knows.
Nielsen and Grabner should be handcuffed together… please don’t ever break those two up… and PA is a nice fit on that line as well. Much better than the DEADLINE… whcih consisted of three players that might have been gone at the deadline. Rolston:press box, Nielsen(trade) and PAP. Grabs isn’t going anywhere, and the line shows a lot more confidence with him around.

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by JPinVA on Jan 18, 2012 7:51 AM EST reply actions  

And I’ll also give Pandolfo some credit for a terrific game. He has the hands of sturgeon, but he was hustling every shift, blocking shots and playing his best all season.

Agree. He really was sharp. He had that great block at the very end of the second period. He is insanely agressive on his shot blocking, and I hope the kids are taking notes.

by afrosupreme on Jan 18, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ironically,

Pandolfo is Italian for “hands of a sturgeon.”

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by PGI on Jan 18, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The best italian meaning for a name is Mike Eruzione

Eruzione means eruption.

It’s like that goal was meant to be with that name.

Still waiting for a GOZO

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 18, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

From the Kings of Leonsis
There was nothing to hide behind Tuesday as the lowly Islanders, barely 24 hours removed from a 3-1 loss to the Nashville Predators, took advantage of the Caps’ lackadaisical play at both ends of the ice.

No respect.

by KO21 on Jan 18, 2012 8:06 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

It makes me lol

How come we can never use excuses. We just have to lose and suck it up.

Still waiting for a GOZO

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 18, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Because when you’re perennially at the bottom of the league, the only viable “excuse” is that your team sucks.

=d

by AP77 on Jan 18, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Any statheads (paging Garik)

know the particulars on “zone starts”?

I’m assuming that the zone start chart is faceoffs at even strength…and the zone start% on BTN is a percentage of the ES faceoffs correct?

Last night, the split was 12 Ozone, 12 Neutral, 5 Dzone for Isles. Point being, is BTN counting percentage of the player’s zone starts, or of the team’s zone starts?

For instance, last night, Tavares took 8 Ozone and 4 Combined neutral and dzone for 67%, but he took 8 of 12 of the Isles total Ozone draws (75%). Should that stat look at % of team draws taken, or of individual player draws taken?

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 18, 2012 8:09 AM EST reply actions  

I see your point

And it’s a good one. Barring an e-mail confirmation from BTN, I don’t know if their site adequately answers it. The site defines Off Zone Start % as:

Offensive Zone Start % = Offensive Zone Starts / (Offensive Zone Starts + Defensive Zone Starts). Records where a player started his shift.

I would assume even strength, but nowhere does it confirm that so maybe its all starts. But I think they are considering a percentage of the player’s zone starts rather than the team’s total zone starts. The stat is for players, and there’s no corresponding Off/Def/Neutral zone start compilation under the team stats. In fact, I found an article from December on TheScore.com that talks about having to do some compiling to determine zone starts at the team level. Heavy statistical lifting.

by brother_rat on Jan 18, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh

Just saw this on BTN: when you’re running the Off Zone Start %, you can specify 5 on 5, 5 on 4, or 4 on 5. So, the baseline would be ES, but you can account for other situations when sorting. Unfortunately, they don’t seem to keep track of 6 on 5 stats, so who knows how they account for JT’s minutes each loss when we pull the goalie with 3 minutes to go.

So, I would think that with JT last night, his figure would be his O Zone starts / Off Zone + Def/Neut Zone starts (assuming Defensive Zone Starts includes Neutral Zone Starts, which again isn’t clear). At 8 / 12, he’d be at 67%. IMO.

by brother_rat on Jan 18, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Team Draws taken.

The stat is not about who’s being used to take faceoffs, but who’s being used in positions which are favorable to the player.

It ignores neutral zone faceoffs as they’re, well, neutral and don’t give anyone an edge.

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by garik16 on Jan 18, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Kesler

No trade clause starts after this year, 10 years younger than Brian Rolston and…well well well…makes the same as Brian Rolston.

Interesting…….

by barry_hal_oliver_24 on Jan 18, 2012 8:13 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

No chance buddy.

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by edavidmorris on Jan 18, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

agree

thought it was a hip check over clip… bs call

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by bob l on Jan 18, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

This used to be a hip check, now it is clipping, which is fine, just make it clear

The NHL now needs to have all of the team’s uniforms add a broad orange strike zone painted across the players chest so you know exactly where you can check a guy. Maybe they need to add some sort of contact paint that rubs off anytime you hit an “illegal” area so the refs can see if the players are hitting in the appropriate sweet spot.

by Hockey1919 on Jan 18, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Slightly off topic

Did anyone happen to catch Brandon Gentile’s 1st AHL goal? Gentile really laced it.

by Isle Of Weight on Jan 18, 2012 8:50 AM EST reply actions  

I caught it on the highlight reel

there is a revolving door down there. I guess he’s taking Klem’s spot on the roster. Do you have the skinny on him?

thompson has them smoking down there. They are back in the playoff race, even with said revolving door. Good goaltending, and a young, hungry lineup… hmmm… we could have that too.

Three players will probably be promoted soon. Ullstrom, definitely. Rhett will get an opportunity, most likely, in FEB, and Donovan who the game is starting to slow down for. If katic makes it back, they will have some pressure to move one [more] D up to the big club, and it should be Oklahoma.

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by JPinVA on Jan 18, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Talking about Kabanov

Does he have a strained relationship with the Russian national squad? Did he try out for the WJC-20 team?

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by edavidmorris on Jan 18, 2012 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

Yes he does

There’s a melodramatic history there. Coaches, poorly timed quotes, disfavor for going to Canada for juniors — some of which ties into the whole “character” questions that dropped him in the draft and into our hands.

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by Dominik on Jan 18, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Burning bridges

That what he do.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Jan 18, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought

Tattoos is what he do.

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by PGI on Jan 18, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

So maybe it's a tattoo of a burning bridge

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Jan 18, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks

I thought the character issues were about him and his Dad, because he seemed to have played on the Under-17 and Under-18 teams.

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by edavidmorris on Jan 18, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

There may be daddy issues

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by Dominik on Jan 18, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

terrible for a girl you're interested in, hopefully okay for hockey players

Definitely a poster at Lighthouse Hockey until 2015, then maybe somewhere else.

by ArsenalLI on Jan 18, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Just when I thought I was out they pull me back in.

It seems that every time I ready myself for diving into scouting reports for the top prospects of the upcoming draft the team hands in a performance like last night’s and has me scouring the standings and upcoming schedule trying to figure how ridiculous a run this team needs to snag the 8 seed.

They have been putting in solid efforts for the last bunch of games (although it is hard to judge their play against Nashville after giving up 3 goals) and it would be awesome if they can bottle last night for the game against Philly tomorrow. Though please leave Rolston (Slowston? Holeston? Poll-ston? No-goalston?) out of that bottle because he is terrible.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Jan 18, 2012 10:54 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I'm sure this will cause a stir around here

This is THN’s next cover

No Sleep 'til....We Find Some Secondary Scoring

by Anarcurt on Jan 18, 2012 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

Wow

Although I’ll say, the question they post next to it is a fair one, and even one I’d say we ask on a regular basis:

John Tavares is the hope of the long-struggling Islanders franchise, but will he be marooned on Long Island?

by afrosupreme on Jan 18, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess it's a bit of progress

It has gone from ‘Man those Islanders suck’ to ‘Man that Tavares is awesome it’s too bad the rest of the Islanders suck’ Oh and DiPietro DiPietro DiPietro.

No Sleep 'til....We Find Some Secondary Scoring

by Anarcurt on Jan 18, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

THAT question

is so much more legit than, “Why is it taking so long for a phenom to save the Isles?”

Which is idiotic on its surface and makes them look stupid. Yes! A top draft pick should totally save a cupboard-empty franchise in just 2.5 years! That’s how it works! Tank for everyone and then … magic! Has nothing to do with the rest of the club and the players around him!

Maybe it’s just a dumb headline.

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by Dominik on Jan 18, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

It worked for Pittsburgh.

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by Fabtraption on Jan 18, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Only until 2015...

After then he’s likely to be stranded elsewhere. (I hope not)

by CloseCallJiggs on Jan 18, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

lulz

<grabs popcorn, waits to enjoy garment rending by victimhood crowd>

=d

by AP77 on Jan 18, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

No man is an Island

but 21 or 22 men are Islanders based on poor roster decisions and salary cap restraints. John Tavares is among them, benefiting greatly from their CPI…have you not heard?

THN, the bell tolls for thee.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 18, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Would be nice to start a reverse jinx thing

Sort of the antithesis of the SI or Madden cover jinx

Success was survival and, kid, it still is

by IslesFanInNJ on Jan 18, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

lulz

Whenever I see CPI, I think this:

=d

by AP77 on Jan 18, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

From ESPN's power rankings

“The Sabres began a season-defining, seven-game road trip with a loss to lowly Long Island. Ouch.”

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Jan 18, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

....I still HAVE that issue, actually.....

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by ogam5 on Jan 18, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

This is just lazy Headline writing

The fact that we play on an “Island” makes it just so easy and they take the lazy way out. My Uncle, who retired as European Bureau Chief for Reuters News Agency, would never allow that.
However, until the Isles establish themselves beyond any doubt, by putting up some massive points in the standings, this is what they’ll get from hack editors and copywriters. Even last night, when they completely dominated what is supposed to be a very good hockey team, who were at home trying to extend a lengthy home winning streak, the headline wasn’t “Isles Dominate Caps”, it was “Caps Lose to Lowly Islanders”.

Those who follow and understand the game understand that the Isles won’t be terrible again for quite a while after this season. Those who don’t need to see it to believe it.

I just read the Prospects analysis linked above, including last year’s end of season analysis which is linked from there. Excuse me while I go get some tissues to clean this mess up…..

STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jan 18, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Screw 'Em

They still put our boy on the cover. because they HAD to…… because he is a beast.

They can say what they want, but the fact we have a player on there speaks voumes about how far we have come. And we also know the talant that is about to be here to help him, and the talent here already.

Still waiting for a GOZO

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 18, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

The "T" stands for Toronto

Toronto Hockey News has had Kessel on the cover twice in a couple of months, if I’m not mistaken. Or at least there were letters to the editor complaining such.

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by Dominik on Jan 18, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

db hockey has kabanov

listed now at 199 pounds. hopefully its true and he’s filling out. the only thing i didnt like about him was his scarecrow scrawnyness. the next ovechkin would be nice.

damn i wanted couturier. he was sitting right there for the islanders. strome might be good but couturier is good right now. it gonna suck watching him develop into the next jordan stall on some other team and not the islanders

the rangers are not winning the stanley cup. this im sure about

enough of wallace already. and rolston. and pandolfo. please. haley, ullstrom and one of czikas or dibennidetto should be here, with nino moved up to rolstons spot. and gillies should be here on call so matt martin doesnt have to fight guys that outwheigh him by 40 pounds (pathetic). and thats just the fowards

enough of eaton already. and staios. and jurcina. and motteau. please donovan, wishart, and ness/katic when healthy should be here. and then hopefully when streit is moved at the deadline dehaan is healthy and brought up.

they arent making the playoffs so whats the point of playing these fossils that have no future? NONE. let the kids play now to get time under their belt.

then they might actually be worth watching

by ripcurl2121 on Jan 18, 2012 11:37 AM EST reply actions  

They ARE worth watching! You need to define what the word "worth" means to you.

Its worth watching because this is a very young and talented team.
It’s worth watching them develop from 19-21YOs to men.
It’s worth watching now to be able to appreciate the journey when the boys turn into men and torch the NHL.
It was worth watching the 70’s hapless Islanders develop into one of the leagues best teams and eventually becoming the greatest team the NHL has/will ever see.
So to me its worth watching now!

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Jan 18, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

very young?

they lead the league in guys over 30 and their average age is not young

by ripcurl2121 on Jan 18, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Right

and those guys stink and will be gone. But watching the young guys is absolutely worth it.

by afrosupreme on Jan 18, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

They also are probably last in the NHL from guys 25 to 30, so what's your point?

This team is very young, let’s not get crazy. And it’s more than the Islanders when we talk about this. It’s all the guys in the system.

Still waiting for a GOZO

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 18, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The crazy thing

is that for the most part the youngster would actually give this team a better chance to win now as well so it’s not like there is some difficult to stomach tradeoff. The only people who seem to think otherwise work for the Isles.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Jan 18, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't work for the Isles

And I’d rather our youth develop properly, rather than get rushed up out of the AHL because we could only afford retreads to round out the roster. I’m tired of seeing guys rushed up to the NHL because of our lack of depth, and they’re half a year outside of NCAA or juniors and haven’t developed their game at the pro level nor filled out. And then they hit the NHL with faster, stronger, harder hitting players and can get injured, concussed, or have their growth stunted. Bringing up guys early should be the exception (when they’re ready) rather than the rule.

by brother_rat on Jan 18, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

there is SOME talent

but to call this team VERY talented is a major stretch.

it will be much more worth it to me watching them when they dont lead the league in retread guys over 30 who have nothing to do with the teams future

by ripcurl2121 on Jan 18, 2012 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

The young talent is very good, and we have a deep prospect pool according to "experts"

But the team is incomplete and the old guys drag it down right now. Eventually they will get replaced with some kids.

Still waiting for a GOZO

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 18, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

BINGO!!!!!!!!

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Jan 18, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

7-10-3

Road record.

They started 0-5-2. If my math is right, that’s 7-5-1 since that start.

There are 7 teams in the east over .500 on the road — all in the top 8.
There are 7 teams in the west over .500 on the road — all but Coyotes are in the top 8.

That being said, the old adage seems to be true: Win at home and come out ahead on the road to be successful.

Too bad (like the Coyotes) we can’t dominate at home…. yet.

by jonny4gets on Jan 18, 2012 3:43 PM EST reply actions  

I'm convinced part of that...

…is because Isles somehow get worse officiating at home than on the road. I remember the first dozen games of the season Isles were hosed 3 times, all of them at home.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jan 18, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

PA Parenteau..

The Assistmeisteeerrrrrrrr!!

by DavidSweden on Jan 18, 2012 3:51 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

They might as well be JT's assists

He's the only reason PAP has any worth... #coattails

by sayvillelax94 on Jan 18, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  


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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.

The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.

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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.

Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.

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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.

A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.

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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.

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