Islanders vs. Predators Gameday: 1 p.m. Start
by Dominik on Jan 16, 2012 7:01 AM EST
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PrintIf you missed it, the Islanders are still 14th in the East by points, but they have a new basement neighbor: The Tampa Bay Lightning have fallen all the way to the bottom (though in truth, the other frequent neighbor, the Hurricanes, have played five more games than the Isles while compiling just one more point).
Predators (25-15-4, 6th/W) @ Islanders (16-20-6, 14th/E)
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Predatory Prose: On the Forecheck
The Nashville Predators are in familiar territory too: On the positive side of the West's playoff bubble while looking up at not two, but three league powers above them in the Central.
The Predators are in this perch thanks to a four-game win streak, including a 4-2 win the other night against the Isles nemesis Flyers. But they're one of those teams who's doing it while being outshot an average of 31.2 to 27.5 per night. For observers of Fenwick, they're near the league's basement (45%) -- Anaheim territory -- in possession with the score close or tied. Cheers to a 21.6% (3rd overall) powerplay and Pekka Rinne, who has a .920 save percentage and .929 at even strength in 40 games. We might see big Anders Lindback today though.
With a game tomorrow in Washington, you have to assume we'll see someone else in net one of these games, though Jack Capuano used Nabby back-to-back during this string. Whether that's Kevin Poulin or Al Montoya (if he comes off IR), we'll soon see.
Islanders Links
- Evgeni Nabokov gets downright philosophical with Newsday about the 180 from last year's waiver claim to earning his 300th win with the Islanders.
- We did our mid-season Islanders player report card Sunday evening, and here's Sunday's prospect report.
- Die by the Blade has the scoring chances and a distressed recap from the Islanders victory over the Sabres Saturday.
- Puck Daddy was among the locales perplexed by the penalty shot call on Mark Streit in that game.
- And of course Don Cherry mumbles something unintelligible about the Jack Capuano timeout against the Wings earlier in the week.
- NYI Fantasy Hockey: New York Islanders - Fantasy hockey challenge - New York Islanders
- Your Bridgeport Sound Tigers are on a crazy winning streak. Here are some resources via PDF files: AHL Media Kit | Player Bios | BST Media Guide
- In addition to On The Forecheck, the Nashville Tennessean is a good source of Preds content.
League Looks
- The now-15th-place Lightning lost yesterday by way of an Evgeni Malkin third-period hat trick. Old friend Jason Blake is back for the Ducks and put up two goals and an assist in their win in Vancouver.
- Pretty nice sendup of Brian Burke twitter answers at Leafs Nation.
- Game previews -- if each NHL team had a wine -- the way only Battle of California can do them.
- Exhausted look at the Oilers rebuild under Steve Tambellini in the Edmonton Journal. And more of that from Copper & Blue. And another from Backhand Shelf.
FIG Picks
Leave your First Islanders Goal picks in this thread. If you're stuck at work today, let us know and we'll try to be half-way informative in the in-game thread.
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Good morning, gang
Nothing, but nothing says Martin Luther King Jr. Day like Predators vs. Islanders in an afternoon start, does it? Or preview is up, too.
http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2012/1/16/2710240/predators-islanders-preview-a-long-island-nooner
That team Fenwick observation has been an interesting story this year. The Preds were absolutely horrible on that front early on, but have played at a much better pace over the last 10-15 games. I have it on my to-do list to dig into the details there of how that’s come about, but I suspect it has something to do with early-season injuries and a couple young guys who have been sent back to the minors.
Managing Editor of On the Forecheck, SB Nation's blog covering the Nashville Predators, and a guy who can help you save money on all things hockey-related at Hockey Gear HQ.
Rinne is not playing?
There is a God.
Still waiting for a GOZO
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 16, 2012 8:36 AM EST up reply actions
no God
Then if the Isles win, they say it is because the backup was in. Or playing the Isles means an automatic rest-your-starters for the opposing team.
Hate to get all negative, but it is a smidge depressing how often it happens.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Jan 16, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
They can say what they want
2 points is 2 points
by Dr. Copp on Jan 16, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Preds play the Rags tomorrow.
this could be a win-win for Isles fans. You also can’t fault the Preds for wanting to play the best goalie in the world vs the 3rd best goalie in the world.
Still waiting for a GOZO
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 16, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Preds/Isles equals
Freedom, equality and poor Fenwick.
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Jan 16, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the context, Dirk
Will be interested in what you find.
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Any word on Staios?
Suspended? Not suspended?
by barry_hal_oliver_24 on Jan 16, 2012 8:03 AM EST reply actions
non-issue
would have happened before their next game vs Sabres.
This is my signature, not that you particularly care.
by Homey Chives on Jan 16, 2012 8:37 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe Shanaban hates Talbot as much as everybody else.
Still waiting for a GOZO
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 16, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There was no review.
If there was a review and they did believe there was some type of headshot, then the Flyers might have been in more trouble than Staios for ignoring NHL mandate and putting him out there to play without being evaluated.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Jan 16, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Isles never addressed it
but the Philly media indicated that there wouldn’t even be a review the very next day. They are however wondering about retribution in the next game.
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Jan 16, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Are you saying
we might need to order up Gillies, Haley, and a side of GRITZ?
by afrosupreme on Jan 16, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe, since Gillies is finally healthy again.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Jan 16, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
cry babies
only in Philly
This is my signature, not that you particularly care.
by Homey Chives on Jan 16, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Kudos to most Sabre fans
For not making the normal excuses most fans do after our team beats them.
It’s refreshing.
Still waiting for a GOZO
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 16, 2012 8:32 AM EST reply actions
Road to the break...
Starting point:
42-16-20-6, 38 PTS .90PPG, 25th overall(by PPG), 13th in the East(by PPG)
Schedule:( 6 games in 8 days, 3H/3A) NAS, @WAS, @PHI,CAR, @TOR, TOR.
Teams within 6 points: (BUF 43PTS/98PPG, MON 42/.93)
A seven game winning streak (starting with BUF on Sat) would put us at:
48-22-20-6, 50 PTS 1.04PPG, 21st overall, 10th in the east (if everyone kept their curr pace.
They definitely need to RUN TO THE BREAK, rest, and start running again. A stretch like that would definitely cause some buzz. They will need some depth to handle this schedule. I don’t know for sure what their roster availability is, but I would definitely have 2D(Reese, Donovan) and 1F(Ullstrom) in the rotation before the break.
With the schedule density I’d put Staios and eaton into a mix of 4 D that rotate through those six games, and just replace Pandolfo with Ullstrom for this stretch. Ullstrom can come back and center a line of Wallace and Nino (I think they all played together during Nino’s stretch there).
See… It’s easy! :-)
I've had enough! It's time to call out Garth Snow!
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Anyone want to go to today's game? (2 Free Tickets, courtesy of me!)
I’m a season ticket holder (section 301, Row F) but I have a pressing writing deadline (e.g. if I don’t finish this assignment today, I’m a dead man), so I won’t be able to attend today’s game. If you’re interested in going to the game in my place, send me an email (“”mailto:keith.m.dallas@hofstra.edu" target="_blank">keith.m.dallas@hofstra.edu") and I’ll forward you the tickets electronically. Again, I’m giving you the tickets for free, but if you could paypal me $4 to cover the Ticketmaster cost of forwarding the tickets to you, I would appreciate it.
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by Captdallas on Jan 16, 2012 9:48 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Thank you, sir.
Tickets are being given to “IslesFanInNJ”, by the way.
Comic Book Writer by day; Islanders fanatic by Gameday
And I can confirm
That captdallas does indeed rule….
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Jan 16, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I would've taken them, but it cost about 800 dollars for me to get to the Coli.
Still waiting for a GOZO
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 16, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Here's how MSG is promoting today's game (faceplamable)
https://twitter.com/#!/MSGNetworks/status/158921588333486080/photo/1
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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Grrr
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
Website:Lighthouse HockeyTwitter: @KeithLHHockey
They're putting Rob Schremp in the Islanders Hall of Fame?
This is getting out of hand!!!!
Comic Book Writer by day; Islanders fanatic by Gameday
by Captdallas on Jan 16, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
What was it, KEith?
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Jan 16, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
(OK, I see the answer below)
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Jan 16, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Damn
Seems to be gone now.
What was it?
by afrosupreme on Jan 16, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
A picture of Rob Schremp skating down the ice in a white Islanders uniform
in the background you can see Nashville Predator players on their bench. I’ll presume it’s one of the few images in MSG’s archive that has the Predators.
Comic Book Writer by day; Islanders fanatic by Gameday
The tweet itself
also said that the Isles hoped to “continue their winning streak” which is currently at one game (and 2-3 in their last 5).
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Jan 16, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Wow!
That fails on every level. Pissed that I missed it!
by afrosupreme on Jan 16, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
There you go
KeithLHHockey: One game streak & Schremp pic? MT @MSGNetworks Hoping to continue win streak,the #isles take on the #Preds today. http://twitter.com/MSGNetworks/status/158921588333486080/photo/1
"If you have what you say you have, I’ll make you rich. If you don’t, I’ll make you into shoes" Jim Moriarty 1/1/2012
Horrible
But somehow MSG will find a way to blame Time Warner!
by brother_rat on Jan 16, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
*shakes head*
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Jan 16, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Shenanigans
Dmitry Chesnokov @dchesnokov 18s
True. Signed w/Lokomotiv RT @KeithLHHockey Dmitry, is there any truth to the rumor that #Isles Klementyev has signed with a Russian club?
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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This news, while somewhat interesting, has zero affect on my future outlook of this team.
I wonder if he’s making stupid money.
More "big picture" stuff really
I’m more concerned about the loosely constructed transfer agreement (honoring league contracts) and the current lack of Petrovs on the Isles farm club.
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Jan 16, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Yea
Interesting that he cites a loophole that Lokomotiv isn’t in the KHL this year, so the transfer agreement doesn’t apply. That’s a crock. The Isles should ramp this up make a play for Petrov ASAP.
by afrosupreme on Jan 16, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Afro,
Dan Van Moosenhoven just called a game misconduct on you for abuse of the sarcasm font.
Still waiting for a GOZO
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 16, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
He is a small fish
I don’t expect him to make much money
"If you have what you say you have, I’ll make you rich. If you don’t, I’ll make you into shoes" Jim Moriarty 1/1/2012
Wow...
Ive been thinking that the Lokomotiv tragedy was a factor here.
Him signing with them adds up.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Jan 16, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Poulin is in!
No Sleep 'til....We Find Some Secondary Scoring
Awesome! Any callups (Ullstrom)?
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
No Callups, but...
Grabner moved up to Nielsen’s line, which means Rolston dropped to 3rd line.
Tavares-Moulson-Okposo
Nielsen-Grabner-Parenteau
Bailey-Martin-Rolston
Pandolfo-Wallace-Niederreiter
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Funny, but I thought Bailey's line WAS the 2nd line saturday.
I checked. Frans had more TOI than Josh.
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
Rolston to 3rd line?
2 reasons to believe today!!
I had a feeling after seeng Grabs finish the game on the second line the other night.
Still waiting for a GOZO
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 16, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure how helpful this is
I mean, it’s a start, but it definitely weakens the third line too. Did they officially say this is what the lines will look like, or just that they promoted Grabner to line 2?
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Jan 16, 2012 11:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
"it’s a start,"
Exactly. It shows he may not have naked pictures of Cappy with Rosie O’ Donnell after all.
Next is 4th line, followed by bye bye.
Still waiting for a GOZO
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 16, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
I agree
Despite my disdain for Rolston, I like the Bailey/Grabs combo. And the way we’ve been playing, not sure why they feel the need to tinker.
by afrosupreme on Jan 16, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
because Grabs looked much better, and that line looked much better.
A big reason we beat the Sabres was Grabs play in the 3rd.
Even though I believe the game winner came when he was on the ice with JT.
Still waiting for a GOZO
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 16, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Right
But you’d think they’d want to keep him in the situation that has him looking better, as opposed to assuming he’s going to play the same way on a different line.
Eh, whatever, we’ll see how it goes today. Hopefully well.
by afrosupreme on Jan 16, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
You didn't see him playing with Frans and PaP in the 3rd last game?
Still waiting for a GOZO
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 16, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Oh
Actually didn’t realize that. Then that makes sense. I missed most of the third putting the kids to bed.
by afrosupreme on Jan 16, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, they looked good.
that’s why I wasn’t shokced when this happened. Hopefully when Ullstrom comes back,. Rolston will be further down.
Still waiting for a GOZO
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 16, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
And they looked pretty good.
Still waiting for a GOZO
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 16, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck
Now Rolston is going to ruin Bailey’s play.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
by Fabtraption on Jan 16, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Poulin is starting?
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Jan 16, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
I know there are some Don Cherry lovers here,
…well, what do you think of him now? I admit, I was surprised by the timeout, and I guess that’s an “old school code” that Cap broke. Jack could have just waited for the faceoff and risked possible but perhaps unlikely injury to tired players…but, I’m glad he didn’t. Injuries in this game today are out of control. Maybe that “old school code” is in need of an update. We all know Cherry is. I liked him much more before concussions.
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
I love Don
He’s a hockey fighter (I love them), and Amerk (love them more), and he reminds me of a time before eveybody got all politically correct. (which I hate).
But he is a hypocrite here:
http://www.hhof.com/htmlFaceOff/humour4.shtml
Still waiting for a GOZO
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 16, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I loved his old show and have always loved his non-PCness.
He may be off a bit sometimes (like the senior man in my firehouse lol) but he brings teh toughness, patriotism, and the fighting spirit, and many of his favorite players have also been mine (Gilmour, Clark, Roenick, Tkachuk, NOT Dale Hunter though…)
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
yeah, I like him too.
Me and my buddies are a bit off sometimes too, but I’d rather talk to Don Cherry than MIke Milbury or Pierre McGuire.
Still waiting for a GOZO
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 16, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
I love how Shea Weber leads the team in points, and is 5th on the team in goals scored. He's beasting it and the
And Suter is almost playing 27min/gm and on the verge of a 9goal/45pts season. They are running both of them as much as they can, also inflating their value. I guess if they can’t keep both, might as well make one hella costly for somebody else. lol
Hooray Poulin! And hooray Rolston down a line!
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Oh yeah, Weber and Suter are the +//- leaders on the team too. lol
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Forechecker: Ryan Suter a game-time decision w/upper body injury??? Yikes! [http://twitter.com/#!/Forechecker/status/158959916185419776]
"If you have what you say you have, I’ll make you rich. If you don’t, I’ll make you into shoes" Jim Moriarty 1/1/2012
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/
JT, MATTY MO, OKPOSO BEST LINE IN NHL!
If you click the link it hides it, lol.
Still waiting for a GOZO
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 16, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
ps
Links in the subject line don’t work-they just collapse the comment.
by afrosupreme on Jan 16, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I got it.
It’s cool but it’s for fantasy.
i was wondering what they were talking about trading JT for. I have him on all 3 of my teams, and have never once thought of trading him.
Still waiting for a GOZO
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 16, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
GAME THREAD
For late comers and early lurkers, the game thread is up here:
http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2012/1/16/2711182/predators-islanders-game-thread
http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2012/1/16/2711182/predators-islanders-game-thread
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Wow
OT a bit: didn’t realize Roloson’s last win was November 17th! TB has really been struggling.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jan 16, 2012 12:46 PM EST reply actions
And i read the sabres don't have two straight wins in 2 months?
Still waiting for a GOZO
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 16, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Here's the start of KP's future
Shutout, win job, never go back down.
Still waiting for a GOZO
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 16, 2012 12:52 PM EST reply actions
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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.
The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.
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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.
Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.
1981-82
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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.
A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.
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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.
Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.
