"They'd been trying to get rid of the Bourque contract -- not just with the Canadiens -- for the last 90 days."
-Bob McKenzie on NHL Network discussing the Flames dump of Rene Bourque in the acquisition of Mike Cammalleri. This was the suspicion at the time, but it lends credence to the theory that the salary baggage the Flames offered for Blake Comeau was Bourque.
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So according to Islander math...
0 > Bourque + Bourque contract
by CloseCallJiggs on Jan 14, 2012 11:38 AM EST reply actions
Thing is
Bourque is 30, signed for four more years and has some kind of NTC [<a href="http://capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=444http://capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=444" target="new">Capgeek] Also is a 3.3 mil cap hit and 4/3/4/2.5/2.5 mil for the balance of the deal.
So you’re looking at Comeau production at best (and probably declining) at more salary with less maneuverability. He’ll probably have in the high 20’s in goals, but yeah, it’s probably the contract.
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by Keith Quinn on Jan 14, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Actually I kind of agree with the Islander math this time
Sometimes a players contract becomes more of a problem than the player is worth. Bourque is borderline in this regard, but not worth upsetting the apple cart over. You can’t bring in unproductive guys and pay them better than Okposo, Grabs, etc. It just fouls the whole thing up.
by CloseCallJiggs on Jan 14, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I do too
I mean, maybe if the Isles have the full cap capacity it’s worth considering. But at current budget levels and the return on that contract, I don’t think I’d want that deal.
I remember when those rumors were floating we were looking at the Flames cap roster to guess who they wanted to get rid of and who the Flames refused to give up, and Bourque looked like he fell in the former group.
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Glass half full
The Islanders could have taken on Bourque, installed him as their cap mule, and dumped Rolston. Bourque’s upside is higher than Rolston’s and his offense, unlike Comeau’s, might actually produce goals.
Glass half empty, they’re stuck with Bourque, a somewhat talented but frustrating winger with a propensity for doing stupid shit and getting suspended for it, for four more years.
I would have balked on Bourque, too.
Anyway, Bourque had a NMC that specified what teams he could be dealt to. I doubt the Islanders were on the list.
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Rolston > Borque
If only for the contract length. Rolston’s is up at the end of the year while Bourque was long term. I would rather have that space available to resign guys like Hamonic, Moulson and Nino three to four years down the line than have a year or two left of Bourque taking up the cap space.
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by David Hanssen on Jan 14, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good point.
Rolston’s hit is gone in July. Opens up a lot of cash for a solid Dman. No need to take Borque. I’m fine with Comeau going for nothing, and I liked Comeau…
I understand not taking Bourque
But I still can’t believe that Blake had no value. Was his contact too prohibitive as well? Not even a mid round pick? Nothing? I find it tough to swallow. Dude did score 24 goals.,
by CloseCallJiggs on Jan 15, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
I always wonder where that line is
Between a team offering a late pick and a team knowing that you’re about to waive a guy because you’ve been shopping him for weeks.
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Ahh, didn't realize Bourque had a NTC too
I trust both his and Cammi’s lists excluded the Isles.
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Maybe another reason the Islanders stayed away from Bourque
is because the man just can’t keep his elbows down.
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/15/rene-bourque-delivers-another-questionable-check/
Exactly how big a cement head is this guy?
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by PGI on Jan 16, 2012 1:25 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Again?!
What a clown.
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