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Rick DiPietro To Have Sports Hernia Surgery; UPDATE: More Knee Swelling

UPDATE, Jan. 14: The Islanders official release on the news also adds, like they did last year when he missed time with facial fractures after the Brent Johnson fight, that he also has "knee swelling." Draw your own conclusion.

Newsday has the scoop on Rick DiPietro's late Friday injury news: Rick DiPietro will have sports hernia surgery that could take him out for the rest of the season, with the "best case scenario" being a return in early April.

"I'm almost bionic at this point" was one of the salient quotes from a somber DiPietro in Arthur Staple's article, which also quotes the star-crossed goalie addressing retirement rumors (there were a few earlier this month) and includes thoughts from Islanders GM Garth Snow on the news.

Star-divide

DiPietro last left the lineup after a groin injury Dec. 3 in Dallas. I'm no doctor nor skilled athlete, but if you've ever had a nagging groin issue morph into a lower abdominal issue, that is one frustrating, nagging, "just a few more days should be all" experience before you realize it's just not happening.

What's clear from comments is there will be yet another attempt to rebuild him. We'll deal with 2012-13 when it arrives, but here's our existing FanShot discussion as the news broke. DiPietro has appeared in eight games this season and 47 over the last four seasons.

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I had a feeling you would never post on this board again

because hearing this news would’ve made your brain literally explode.

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by Fabtraption on Jan 13, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Well at least this circus act is over till next year

will we ever rid ourselves of this guy. Listen time to face facts, its over, thanks for trying. If I just couldn’t cook a steak to the right temperature my contract would be 86’d regardless of well anything. I love the islanders but I can’t say that this post did not make me smirk ever so slightly. And again no I do not feel bad, he makes a ton of money for less than mediocrity. Give him a shot at Peter Pan’s job in the studio he cant be any worse and Im sure his cocky arrogance will benefit him in front of the camera.

by Madchef on Jan 13, 2012 6:29 PM EST reply actions  

Oh ye of little hope

No dreaming of a heroic April return?!

Studio job meme: “Isn’t Boston a great hockey market?”

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by Dominik on Jan 13, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Enough already!

Hope the rumors of Steve Winters interest in buying the team are true. Maybe he will have the sense to order the GM to buy out DP.

Send DP to BP

by Pilon power on Jan 13, 2012 6:33 PM EST reply actions  

No one would buy out DP

at least until the team got close to the cap. Otherwise you’d be paying him till 2029 if you bought him out before the start of next season

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by Mark D on Jan 13, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm praying for amnesty in the next CBA

I know it’ll let other teams off the hook but we’re probably the most screwed long term if he doesn’t decide to retire.

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by ArsenalLI on Jan 13, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Im praying for the exact opposite.

Why would ANY fan of a team with lots of capspace want to give that to 29 other teams?????

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Jan 13, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Because

we are NEVER going to spend to the cap, but we are on a budget. $4.5 million could go a LONG way for us, and DP has never even considered retirement yet, then I have little reason to think he will anytime soon.

by afrosupreme on Jan 13, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, the thing is that he can screw up the roster as a goalie

if he was a position player, you could shelter him and bury him on the 4th line etc. But if he’s going to be eating up a healthy scratch or taking playing time away from developing goalies, that could be a problem.

I’m really mostly concerned with the roster and developing some level of continuity and moving on. At this point, if he’s healthy he’ll have to get time somewhere and even in BPT, that could be a problem.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 13, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I do not want to give teams the ability to magically erase their biggest mistakes.
If they do, then those 29 teams get to sign better guys then the ones they are stuck with, and where does that leave the Isles?

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 13, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Same spot as usual?

but with one less headache? I hear you, truly I do, but hey, we aren’t signing anyone now…I’m thinking the only thing that gets us signing some UFAs is a turnaround in the W/L department.

It is entirely possible also that somehow parting from that mistake signals to some players that this team is beginning to move forward.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 13, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

But you don’t think it hurts us just as much? We’re not up against the cap, but we are seemingly up against our budget. I’d argue our mistake hurts us as much as their’s, and prevents us from signing better players as well.

by afrosupreme on Jan 13, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't think anyone saw DP's slew of injuries coming when the contract was signed

It was a gamble for sure when DP signed his 15 year deal, but I don’t think anyone saw it coming regarding the amount of injury problems that DP has faced in the past few years.

by Dougtone on Jan 13, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Nostradamus couldn't have predicted he'd be hurt this much

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by ArsenalLI on Jan 13, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I wish you could see me clapping

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by ArsenalLI on Jan 14, 2012 4:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely not.

Because Rick DOES NOT HAVE A NTC!
the other teams would be getting rid of contracts for a lot more, guys with NTC/NMCs, 35+ guys, all the Isles would have to do is waive the guy.

IT would help every other team more than the Isles in every possible way.

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 13, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

(NMC)

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Jan 13, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

But waiving him

doesn’t take us off the hook for his money, and that’s the real problem. The roster spot is one thing, the money is the serious issue for the Islanders.

by afrosupreme on Jan 13, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Neither does a buyout

They still have to pay 66% of his salary. That’s not peanuts.

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by Francesca on Jan 14, 2012 3:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Buyout isn’t an option either. He needs to be “convinced” to retire. Shouldn’t be hard on Long Island.

by afrosupreme on Jan 14, 2012 8:00 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Meh.

Cap space is never going to really be an advantage for the Isles. And the cap itself is really not much of a constraint on most other teams, particularly when you can just Wade Redden fools.

=d

by AP77 on Jan 13, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I used to hope they could leverage it, but big-monied teams can cleary wait cap-space teams out with the thread of just Reddening, Souraying or outright buying out their baggage.

Cap space has netted the Isles Wisniewski and Rolston. It’s netted the Ducks Jason Blake. Not a stellar record. Big markets still win.

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by Dominik on Jan 14, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

It leaves the Isles

With the ability to magically erase their biggest mistake and sign someone (see: anyone with ECHL level ability and up) who is better.

by Dorfer on Jan 13, 2012 8:00 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

They HAVE that ability.

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 13, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends on how this amnesty buyout option works

If it’s cheaper than sending him to the minors (where he might block a prospect’s development) and doesn’t count against the cap like a normal buyout does, it seems like a no-brainer.

by Dorfer on Jan 13, 2012 8:12 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I'm with TMC on this one.

Our “problem” runs us $4.5 million per year, which likely will not hurt us much at any point during the next dozen years (need him for cap floor now… and $4.5 million becomes less of an issue over the years, as the cap rises every friggin’ year).

Meanwhile, I’m highly entertained watching teams like the Flyers fret about the “36+ contract” hangovers they’re starting to get.

The only problem, as Keith pointed out below, is that a healthy-but-not-reliable goalie means always carrying three goalies, which means one less roster spot for skaters. But I think the good outweighs the bad here. I won’t be rooting for amnesty.

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jan 13, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I am with TMC, too.

No amnesty for other teams even if that means living with Yash and DP’s contracts. Neither contract constrains the Isles ability to sign free agents (building, area, uncertainty all do that). The Isles will be in a worse position if other teams can dump their bad contracts to sign better players to more cap-friendly deals. The Isles will not be better off with DP’s contract off the books. Regardless of his contract, there is one constant each season: he will get injured and it will be lengthy, freeing up that extra roster spot.

Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...

by Turgeon1992 on Jan 14, 2012 12:56 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

capspace

under the new contract, odds ae that the ceiling and floor will be lower than they are this year. Owners want something akin to the NBA’s 50-50 split, while right now players get about 57% (i might be off a little there).

Granting amnesty or buyouts will almost be a necessity if every team has to cut salary to make the new limits. Personally, if that means we can get rid of DLpietro’s contract, I’m all for it.

by nullzero00 on Jan 14, 2012 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Long Island hedge fund guy.

Rumor has it he and Pat Lafontaine are tryiing to form a group to buy the team from Wang. If Wang is selling.

Send DP to BP

by Pilon power on Jan 13, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

That rumor is nearly as old as this site. Either that or Pat LaFontaine has talked to EVERYONE on Long Island with some money about buying the team.

Are there even any interviews in which Lafontaine expresses an interest in owning the team?

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by Mark D on Jan 13, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

If this site is only 4 days old

then yes, you are correct.
No interviews that I have seen.
Thats why its called a “rumor”.

Send DP to BP

by Pilon power on Jan 13, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean that there always seems to be someone with money and Pat LaFontaine “wanting to buy the team” it’s been going around for at least 2-3 years.

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by Mark D on Jan 13, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Right

It just sounds like the kind of rumor they always do when someone wants to stir hope. It’s happened multiple times with LaFontaine (and how rich can he actually be?) but happens in every city with their old stars. “Nostalgic Hero X is in the investment group.”

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by Dominik on Jan 13, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

There's an added wrinkle

“Nostalgic Hero X—-who is persona non grata with the current owner—-is in the investment group.”

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by Captdallas on Jan 13, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Ooh yeah

That is an added enticing wrinkle.

By next summer there will be a “Yashin in in the investment group” just to troll us all.

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by Dominik on Jan 14, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

He never spoke to me...

And as I said, I’ve got a couple hundred bucks burnin’ a hole in my pocket.

How much could the team possibly be worth?

by CloseCallJiggs on Jan 13, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

The team is currently worth...

half the amount that Wang paid for it.

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by Captdallas on Jan 13, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Pat Lafontaine

Who?

In all seriousness, this would be kind of weird given the way things have gone, but would certainly mark a clean break from the Depressing Wang Era, while also retaining ties to the NY area.

by afrosupreme on Jan 13, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather hear about some developers who want to build a new arena

I don’t think Wang has been all that bad as an owner besides the DP and Yashin deals which he’s clearly learned from. The man genuinely cares about the fate of the franchise and has been stonewalled by LI politics.

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by ArsenalLI on Jan 13, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

the problem is

Given the political climate of the area, and the pigs at the trough who have been elected, no sane person is going to buy the team and build an arena without also getting to develop the surrounding property.

The arena by itself would be barely profitable at best. It’s the empty space around the NVMC that is worth 5x more than the team and any building currently on site. That has been the key for Wang and all the speculators before him.

John Spano wouldn’t even buy the team now, even if he really did have the money this time.

The only people who are going to buy the team are those who will move it into a building they control, be it in Belmont, Brooklyn, Queens, Quebec or Kansas City.

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by Torgo on Jan 13, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Sounds about right

I’m a north shore guy, selfishly, my vote goes to Williets Point. But I guess I’d accept anything that kept them on the Island. The problem, as you point out, is profitability. If whatever solution they come up with is not profitable, then it is back on the same treadmill for 30 more years, and that would be awful. So whatever they do, and wherever they choose to go, may it a profitable venture for all.

by CloseCallJiggs on Jan 14, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

In addition to a horrible local political climate

It’s simply a horrible time to be trying to rescue a team or make any profit off any non-top 5 sports team.

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by Dominik on Jan 14, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Dont believe it- this LaFonatine stuff has come up before and its always been BS.

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 13, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the better option is in your sig

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by Dominik on Jan 13, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

So be it

But do something. Hes a running joke around the NHL.

Send DP to BP

by Pilon power on Jan 13, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Still don't get why

they refuse to do it. Let him rehab all he wants in the minors. Ricky is gonna keep trying for as long as he physically can, and good for him, but enough is enough. This has to be waring on everyone.

by keilj07 on Jan 13, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I got it more when they had six goalies

In part because I suspected this was the year where they let him fall on his sword at the NHL level.

But if they do it again next year, my goodness.

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by Dominik on Jan 13, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Right?

I’m already mentally prepared for it.

by keilj07 on Jan 13, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I am confident it will happen when the Isles need to do it.

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 13, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Sources?

I couldn’t find anything about that.

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by pippup on Jan 13, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I do feel sorry for Ricky

I am just a fan, frustrated like the rest of you. Hockey is this kids life, and he was real good. He got some rotten luck, and he is not ready to let go, even though all signs point that way. I can’t say I blame him. It’s his life, and he still has a shot to play professional hockey. I can’t imagine what it must feel like to walk away with so much unfulfilled promise.

by CloseCallJiggs on Jan 13, 2012 6:45 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

ditto

I just wish that he was given a year in the AHL to rehab instead of being on the NHL team muddying the water.

by Jones79 on Jan 13, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont feel sorry for a guy making millions while sitting on his ass.

"Its the letter D"

by Rory B. Bellows on Jan 14, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha

I needed that.

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by Dominik on Jan 13, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

and 4.5 million dollars a year

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by ArsenalLI on Jan 13, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

""I have confidence he can get through this," Snow said. "He'll have the surgery and in a few weeks, hopefully, he'll be back on the ice."

We are all the dumbest people on earth.

It’s like congress. What a load of shit.

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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 13, 2012 6:53 PM EST reply actions  

not like he can say anything else

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by ArsenalLI on Jan 13, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm waiting for sombody to say it's time to fix this and move on

maybe they can have an intervention on Ricky, and convince him he no longer has it.

Still waiting for a GOZO

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jan 13, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I would love to see

how they really react to these reports behind closed doors. it has to be old for them too, no?

by keilj07 on Jan 13, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll agree with you if they give him another shot after this season

Until this point he really hasn’t been that much of a burden. We’ve been in full on rebuild mode until this season (I still think we should be in rebuild mode but we’re closer to turning the corner) and this year was the first he really had a full off season to work with. He was apparently looking good over the summer.

Now that he had that chance, I think it’s about time to give him a run in BP or force him to retire. This is largely going to depend on what happens in the CBA negotiations I think.

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by ArsenalLI on Jan 13, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny Comment from last night's game

Did anyone else catch Butch and Howie talking about how bad Ilya Bryzgalov’s stats were at: 3.07 GAA and a .891 Save %? And how unacceptable those are for a goalie making as much money as the Flyers signed him for:

I guess they didn’t realize that Rickys numbers are much worse 3.73 GAA and .876 Save % !

by 4 Cups in a row on Jan 13, 2012 6:53 PM EST reply actions  

Ilya makes considerably more then DP for a few years of his deal

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by Mark D on Jan 13, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Their pay is not comparable

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 13, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

You do have to feel sorry for Ricky

He does really try to get back and its always something else that derails him. Its not even a point of him ever getting back to his prior form. At this point its a question of ‘can this guy stay healthy for two straight weeks?’ If youre management thats what you have to be thinking, and thats the reason you need to think very hard about cutting bait on Ricky. His body just can’t handle playing professional hockey anymore.

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by Chris McNally on Jan 13, 2012 7:02 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I agree

If he has been doing everything he can, which it seems so, then how hard is it for the guy that never quits on the team and never quits trying to be a crippled mess all the time. He as always stood up for us, the fans, and for this organization when no one else would. He wants to be healthy so badly, it can be hard to watch. There have been plenty of times when I wished that he would call it quits, but to think about its depressing. However, he has the rest of life to think about. He cannot live the rest of his life in pain because he wanted to help the Islanders win ten more games. Hopefully, he takes a nice pension and a job with the Islanders and heads to the beach; because, DP, I don’t want you to end up in pain or worse for the rest of your life. Its just not worth it.

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by pippup on Jan 13, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This is such a dagger

because in an offseason that many of us are hoping for a big play from Garth, there goes 4.5 million out of the budget again. If he still thinks he can play, he hasn’t been paying attention for four years. If Wang is still giving him a pass then someone needs to put Wang in his place. If DP really believes that, then someone needs to have a serious talk with him. This could severely impact the team this offseason.

If he didn’t like those boos on opening night this year, he better bring an umbrella next year.

by afrosupreme on Jan 13, 2012 7:05 PM EST reply actions  

Man oh man

If Garth is serious about RDP being on this team next season…I may just change my feelings on Garth. He’d have to be an utter moron.

by Dorfer on Jan 13, 2012 7:42 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Question
NYIslanders NYIslanders
Regarding DiPietro, expect the team to issue a statement tomorrow. #Isles

Think it’s what we already heard, or something new?

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by Mark D on Jan 13, 2012 7:19 PM EST reply actions  

Same, I suspect.

I wonder if this means RDP talked to Staple without going through the PR dept., and Snow’s comment was just reaction to Staple?

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by Dominik on Jan 13, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I stand corrected

Adding “knee swelling” once again is a small tea leave.

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by Dominik on Jan 14, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm

interesting because if it was gonna be the same, why not just retweet Staple’s stuff or just a quick couple of lines about it. I mean, they’re not going to go through the history and the contract and the jokes and shit…could be done in 5 minutes really.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 13, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Well teams announce it

but I’m not sure they usually pre-announce it with “the team will have a statement” or similar.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 13, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Be interesting

if they want him to retire, and he wants the money (aka buyout).

I'm sure that would work out in our favor.

by afrosupreme on Jan 13, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Rick and the Islanders are going to announce

That his brain will removed and placed inside a giant robot body and that Krang DiPietro will start for the Islanders next Thursday in Philadelphia.

Seriously, Rick. You gotta hang ’em up. For the future of the team you care so much about. The best thing you can do is step aside.

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by PGI on Jan 13, 2012 8:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Fichaud! You belong to Wernstrom now.

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by mikb on Jan 13, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Per the Official NY Islanders account on Facebook

They say to expect the team to issue a statement tomorrow.

by Dougtone on Jan 13, 2012 7:19 PM EST reply actions  

I was getting started on writing something too and selected the same picture

but my caption was “Ok, now turn your head and cough”.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 13, 2012 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, also

today is Friday the 13th…congrats on the coincidence DP.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 13, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha

was thinking that. Great day for a press release!

by afrosupreme on Jan 13, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha! I was born on a Friday the 13th

exactly 34 years ago.
That’s not the birthday present I expected though :S

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by Francesca on Jan 14, 2012 3:30 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thank you :D

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by Francesca on Jan 14, 2012 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Happy Birthday!!!!11

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 14, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank you all!

Sabres… Grabner… happy memories!
Hopefully this game will be a turning point for him like last year.

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by Francesca on Jan 14, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure that exists

one party or another is going to be a little screwed either way. Honestly, you can’t even really be sure he’d be successful at BPT. And even if his play was adequate, it’s still huge stretch to think he can give them even 30 starts. If there’s an owner mandated salary structure, I doubt CW would want or be able to spend additional coin to pick up more players.

The buyout would be 1.5 million until 2031. He may not be interested in retiring (he’d lose money), the insurance doesn’t even really apply here because nothing is really keeping him from playing…just not playing well, and they’re different injuries all the time.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 13, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

nothing is really keeping him from playing

Is that really true though? The injuries are all related-knee, hip, groin, and he’s managed 47 games in 4 seasons. If that doesn’t count as not playing, I’m not sure what does.

by afrosupreme on Jan 13, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

You wonder what the thresholds are

I mean, it is playing at all? Playing well? Playing pain free? Playing X amount of games?

This season though, there hasn’t been anything knee or hip (other than the obviously connected groin/hernia). Now, I’m not sure if they could connect those and say "you will continue to hurt either your knee, hip, groin, develop hernias.

I find it a little odd that the guy has never hurt his quads or hamstrings considering how weak they must be from resting the knees and hips, but I guess you could also suppose that he has strengthened everything around those areas to protect them.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 13, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean at this point that’s 14% of all games in that span. Even if you reduce it to 60 games per season since he’s a goalie that’s 20% of all games, with the bulk of them being last year. And here he is, missing more than half of this season with a groin injury. There’s no way that’s not related to all the other stuff.

by afrosupreme on Jan 13, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

It’s getting pretty bad. The sap in me is hoping for a cliche sports movie ending, where he can just reinvent himself after years of play in BPT (takes a paycut) and becomes a solid backup as the Isles start contending again. The fan in me, that just wants to see good meaningful hockey again (without all the punchlines), would like to see him walk away.

I kind of wish I was making a documentary about DP, from before the injuries started. It would be fascinating to document how all this effects the individual and everyone else connected to it. Depending how it ends, it would be a intriguing one to say the least.

by keilj07 on Jan 13, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be a pretty amazing doc

If I weren’t so worn out by his saga dominating my favorite team, I might even watch it!

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by Dominik on Jan 14, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, does he have any aptitude or inclination to do off-ice work for the team?

He could retire but then get rehired back to do front office work, who knows. Of course, at a lesser salary, saving the team some money. What’s the relationship like between Garth and DP?

He’s still young enough to be able to go back to school to finish his degree.

by brother_rat on Jan 14, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

A buyout doesn't benefit the Islanders.

it’s retirement or being stuck on the team until it’s more financially secure.

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by garik16 on Jan 14, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

my sympathy goes out to him...

it really is incredible what this guy goes through when it comes to injuries. i think the only thing that really doesn’t make this a big deal is poulin…so let’s say Rick comes back next year. he becomes an expensive backup. i just don’t see wang buying him out or Rick accepting a buyout at this point. the guy loves hockey and really wants to play and win. i really think poulin will emerge next season and hope that montoya recovers and stays on another year or two. again, not shocking news or much of a big deal. we’re all used to this.

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by gukid17 on Jan 13, 2012 7:46 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

sucks donkey balls... he's had so much crap...

thrown at him… and stuff to overcome and deal with…

at this point i’m really rooting for him (no matter the odds) more than ever to be able to come back… he’s a good guy, good islander with tons of bad luck. i know he’s an underdog now and odds are way against him but those are the kinds of people i like to root for…

hmmmm… maybe that’s why i’m an islanders fan

and if he can’t come back… at least he tried and didn’t just give up

by Khan Noonien Singh on Jan 13, 2012 8:23 PM EST reply actions  

Is it a draft jersey?

Or is it a failed attempt at a Bruno jersey?

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, neither

It says “Dennis” on the back—his name—and the 08 as the number is accurate. I thought the screenshot might have been reversed, but no.

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by brother_rat on Jan 14, 2012 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe the character wanted it to look like he was drafted in 08?

I bet that still wouldnt get as much bitching as Josh lol.

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 14, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Man, someone who works on 30 Rock

must be a HUMANGUS BIG Islanders fan. Paul Giamatti had the Tavares jersey and Moulson reference on an episode, too. I was kinda hoping Giamatti was a fan and wore his own jersey.

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by PGI on Jan 14, 2012 1:18 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

If you look in the background of some episodes

Theres a bunch of Isles pennants and flags and stuff too. Its kinda neat lol

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by Zhora on Jan 14, 2012 1:19 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm pretty sure it's a few of the writers that are Isles fans, not just 1 influential one

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by ArsenalLI on Jan 14, 2012 4:31 AM EST up reply actions  

You can't suspend the whole writing staff.

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by Dominik on Jan 14, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow

Can’t help but feel for him. He was a supremely talented athlete and just has had bad luck. As a goalie nothing hurts more than having to watch your friends and teammates play while you can not even dress because of an injury. I missed only a month early this season because of a concussion and it sucked. I feel for him he was great fun to watch back in 08 and 09.

by mnroy33 on Jan 13, 2012 8:51 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions   1 recs

I agree

This is just sad for all concerned: Rick, the team, and all fans.
At one point I was sure he was going to at least be one of the good NHL goaltenders, but that day was years ago. Since then all we have seen is his body break down, and his skills deteriorate.
And now its one more part of his physical well-being that is suspect.
Not good, and it will only sadden me more to see another attempt to make it back. Can’t see the results being any better.
Too bad for all concerned, including Rick.

by JackandAce on Jan 14, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Keeping Nabokov looks like a shrewd move then.

by DavidSweden on Jan 14, 2012 3:24 AM EST reply actions  

Hey, Garth. How’s it going. ? Its Satan…Satan. Yeah you know, Lucifer. Yes thats right. How are you? So I’d like to discuss a deal involving RDP. Is his soul available? You don’t think so? Well why don’t you talk it over with him. I just might be able to get him back into shape. Yeah like I said you talk to him about it and get back to me. Just leave a message. I’ll be pretty busy today. I’ve got a meeting with Casey Anthony’s people. And Kim Yung Ill has been waiting to speak to me for days now. I gotta do something with that guy. Talk to you soon. Take it easy. Bye now.

by Icefan71 on Jan 14, 2012 5:50 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Please.. NO MORE

Can we not start another season with, “We’re going into the season with three goalies and the best option wiill play”
Let’s try this. Let’s sign one (Montoya) and give one (Poulin) a chance. Then we’ll have another (Nilsson) in the AHL, and if he’ll (Koskinen) come back we will have two developing in the AHL.
If there is no amnesty, and he doesn’t retire, SITUATION39 needs to start the season in Bridgeport and EARN his way back onto the big club. Let’s not forget that he not only played a handful of games, but he did so quite poorly.
If the organization does that, then at least I can root for him. If we start the season with him on the NHL roster again I think I’m going to join the fans that boo him on openning night… and i really thought it was wrong this year…but enough is enough.

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by JPinVA on Jan 14, 2012 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

SITUATION39 needs to start the season in Bridgeport and EARN his way back onto the big club.

I honestly don’t even see this as an option anymore. Like you say Montoya/Poulin is the ideal tandem for the NHL next year, and we have two other guys we need to develop at BP in Nilsson and Koskinen. If he really is adamant about continuing, maybe the best way to convince him to retire is to send him to BP and not play him.

After a night’s sleep on this, I’m taking a new view. This is all bluster to get him the insurance money. He’s going to retire this summer, but they are going through the motions so he can get his money when he’s unable to perform during his rehab.

/sticks head firmly in the sand

by afrosupreme on Jan 14, 2012 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed
This is all bluster to get him the insurance money.

If it’s, “We’ve explored every option, and he is still unable to perform at a level that is consistent with a professional athlete due to his injuries”… then great, get him whatever the insurance amount is, and let’s move on.
The team has done more than it’s fair share to keep him as a member of the organization.
He has done an admirable job working to get back into shape to play.
The fans have tolerated Situation39 long enough. Almost none of it his fault. Luongo trade (not his fault), Drafting him ahead of Gaborik and Heatley(not his fault), rushing him as a rookie(not his fault), injuries (mostly not his fault), never ending bonehead agressive playing of the puck (ALL HIS FAULT).
Let’s just part as friends… it’s not you… IT’S ME!

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by JPinVA on Jan 14, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

After a night’s sleep on this, I’m taking a new view. This is all bluster to get him the insurance money. He’s going to retire this summer, but they are going through the motions so he can get his money when he’s unable to perform during his rehab.

Id guess more like next summer rather than this summer… maybe even one after that… but ultimately I think theres truth to this.
They went out of their way to mention knee swelling out of nowhere in this release, even though all DiPi mentioned was his sports hernia. That is not random on their part, its intentional.

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 14, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Intentional

I’m really wondering about the timing too of him speaking to Staple and the Isles not having a statement until today. Wonder if there was some disconnect/difference of opinion there, or if it was just the timeline of events (doctor visit, discussion, PR staff on call).

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by Dominik on Jan 14, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, you would think theyve know about it for a while

You would assume he was diagnosed shortly after the return home and the surgery scheduled shortly thereafter. You would also think that the knee was simultaneous (possibly a compensatory injury from the hernia)???

Not sure the timeline would work itself out to Friday afternoon during happy hour with the team leaving the intern staff to tweet that tree will be an update tomorrow…which given what it was, a monkey could’ve typed in 30 seconds.

Something’s a little weird.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 14, 2012 1:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That would be excellent

But just to be sure, to go through the motions next year, please place him in BPT.

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by Dominik on Jan 14, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I think

I’d rather start the seaon with TWO goalies and the best option will play, so long, of course, as we have some viable depth options at the Bridge.

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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jan 14, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Team Value

According to Forbes the Isles are worth $154M. More than $30M less than what Wang purchased them for; $188M.

by John from ATL on Jan 14, 2012 9:15 AM EST reply actions  

except

That doesn’t count for the Islanders not having a Lease. They should be worth considerably more around 2015

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by Mark D on Jan 14, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, to pick this up again, (emphasis mine)
DiPietro, 30, has been sidelined since December 3, first with a groin strain and then with what is classified as a sports hernia and knee swelling. The Winthrop, MA, native has appeared in eight games this season, posting a 3-2-3 record.

Seems like they just tried to jam that in there quietly and without explanation as to why it happened (although, I guess to fans of the team, it can always be inferred that it is the same old, same old).

That is even more bothersome than the surgery on the hernia.

Here we are in year four and that sucker still swells. I have to think there’s no chance that additional time and rehab ever prevents that knee(it’s never specified which one…or both) from swelling. I have to think there is no chance of him ever returning to anything more than 10-25 games per year maximum.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 14, 2012 10:19 AM EST reply actions  

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#Isles revealing DiPietro has knee swelling is a way bigger deal than the hernia. Knees are a chronic issue for him.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 14, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Can they get him a doctor with some common sense please?

For his own good, make him clear his issues are chronic and not getting any better playing professional sports. As long they keep telling him there’s a chance of getting better, he will not retire. There’s still life after hockey and walking without pain is not to underestimate.
DiPietro reminds me of Peter Müller a successful former downhill skier with martyrized knees. Media’s pressure on him was enormous (no jokes, media called his knees “the knees of the Nation”), his urge to compete even bigger and he kept racing (successfully) over the point of no return. He can barely walk now. I understand the love for the sport, the urge to compete, the adrenaline rush, but at some point the prospect of a healthy and pain-free life has to be more important.

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by Francesca on Jan 14, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

No Poulin

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 14, 2012 10:38 AM EST reply actions  

Hmph.

I was pretty confident I was going to see Poulin at the game tonight.

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 14, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Me too

Amazing that they would take a red-hot goalie, bring him up and get him back to ice cold. There isn’t another game until Monday, so I can understand them using their NHL goaltender in ordinary circumstances, but the kid just hung up a monster week.

He needs starts too…the roster decisions continue to baffle. Ullstrom down, Reese, Poulin/Nilsson sitting around collecting dust…

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 14, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Even odder

If you weren’t going to play Poulin, why not swap him with Nilsson again, so he could play at BP?

by afrosupreme on Jan 14, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 14, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Sometimes I question

How much Cappy is coaching for the future Vs coaching to keep/save his job

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by Mark D on Jan 14, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

? I dont understand what you mean by that.

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 14, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Theory is that he would be taking a bigger risk to start the AHL goalie

rather than rolling with the veteran. If the isles lose with Poulin, Cappy gets more heat for electing to start him. If they lose with Nabakov, it is more of a team loss.

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by IslesFanInNJ on Jan 14, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

He wants to win.

No matter who is in net, its a loss under his watch. I think he will put in who he thinks is more likely to win.

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 14, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Just about everything is questionable you know?

I mean obviously he has to play with who’s on the roster, so things like not having Ullstrom may not be his fault, but the continued mothballing of Reese is strange, and not that I expected much when Nilsson was here, but that is a shit way to develop a goalie (not playing him at all for a couple of weeks).

Now, if they do the same thing with Poulin after such a red-hot run, I’ll be pretty annoyed.

I hear what you’re saying. But either “for the future” or “to save his job” the sum-total of the moves looks counterproductive to either of those ends. And that ends up being where you have people saying “he doesn’t control the decision making”, or “he’s incompetent”. It’s all just weird.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 14, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I still think Poulin being up here is a financial reward.

He makes like ten times what he makes in Bridgeport by being here.
They probably want Poulin to get some of the NHL cash that Nilsson was getting.

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 14, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

They're doing it at the risk of his own development though.

That’s just stupid management.

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by Fabtraption on Jan 14, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I simply dont agree that Poulin is being damanged in any way by briefly being a backup.

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 14, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe not

But he’s certainly not getting playing time…although he probably wouldn’t be at BPT either because they did the same thing to Nilsson and he needs starts too.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 14, 2012 1:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

although he probably wouldn’t be at BPT either because they did the same thing to Nilsson and he needs starts too.

There ya go… Poulin isnt going to play constantly, so if he is gonna be a b/u, might as well let him do it here for a bit where he will make ten times the money.

And I am sure if he was given the choice, he would rather be with the Islanders.

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 14, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Coaching to save his job

I was thinking the same thing. Despite Poulin’s nice AHL week, he’s more someone we desire than what Capuano might desire. Nabby’s been fine, a known quantity (save for the puck handling gaffe). It might mean way more to Capuano to keep Nabby going than to give Poulin another glance.

Of course there are also the “showcase” theories and who knows what else.

I think our desire to see shiny Poulin clouds our view though.

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by Dominik on Jan 14, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

it's not just us though, Butch & Howie thought we'd see Poulin too

We’re going to run Nabby into the ground at the rate we’re going. At some point Cap has to realize goalies need rest on a regular basis, they aren’t like regular skaters.

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by ArsenalLI on Jan 14, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's showcasing.

Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s traded as soon as Montoya is ready.

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by Anarcurt on Jan 14, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

He has been playing better, and I think that maybe the big 300 is keeping him motivated to get the win. Maybe they even told him that they are looking to move him but he has to play better or something, who knows

by jlm11092 on Jan 14, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Could be the milestone chase too, I guess

Get him to 300 on home ice. Never thought I’d utter that statement last spring, but wow conditions in this sport change by the day.

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by Dominik on Jan 14, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point about the 300.

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 14, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

HMMMMMMMMMMMMM

What is the likely cause of someone bulking up incredibly for their first training camp and then having that same body break down unnaturally on an annual basis? Let me give you a hint: STEROI**

by John Lydon on Jan 14, 2012 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

I know you've been saying this forever

But maybe a FanPost explaining it would get more people to see it?

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by Dominik on Jan 14, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Dr. House says it's not lupus

Seriously, I’d like to hear more about this. Although, if you’re right, and please don’t take this the wrong way, but it’s sad that the team doctors wouldn’t figure this out first.

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by PGI on Jan 14, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I wouldnt presume that they dont have it figured out.
What are they supposed to do, exactly?

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 14, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

It doesn't sound like they could do much of anything

I chose my words poorly. But maybe making that information known would be a good idea, so that every DiPietro story doesn’t turn into a LOLDIPIETRO15YEARSALWAYSHURTLOL yuck-fest for the hacks of the hockey world. I don’t think they lose anything by acknowledging a chronic disease instead of releasing an annual “knee swelling” press release and watching the punchlines roll in.

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by PGI on Jan 14, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I get where youre coming from...

But I actually think that there is a reason they are doing things the way they are doing them.

Think about when there is a suspect in a crime… (go with me on this for a minute) You dont charge someone until you set things up properly- you want a prima facie case or else theres a good chance the charges will not stick, even if peopleknow they are probably true. If the Islanders had made a bold statement about chronic conditions immediately years ago, there would be people contesting it left and right- saying that there hasnt been enough time to say that, you dont know yet, etc. Hell, Rick would be one of them. What theyre doing now is setting up the factual groundwork… if this chronic injury does prevent him from playing and push him into retirement, nobody would question it.

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 15, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

BTW

Sports hernia, often manifests itself as groin pain. Its a tear in the abdominable muscle but does not create a hole in the abdominal wall like traditional hernia- they are hard to diagnosis so this was probably his original “groin injury”. Only way to resolve it is with surgery. They probably figure this out on the road trip and sent him home hence the “injury while injured”

As far as knee swelling. Rick always has knee inflammation so anytime he has surgery they have to do a full work up of his medical condition. Hence anytime he goes in for surgery he will be diagnosed with knee swelling

by neologizer on Jan 14, 2012 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

Well, here's the next question

and maybe you can’t answer it…I’ve certainly never been in a pro locker room, but how the eff does it take the medical staff over a month to figure this out? Especially if it is know that hernia manifests as groin pain?

I mean, don’t they do an MRI or something on the groin? If it’s that sore for that long, don’t they look at other things? Did the medical team diagnose this as a groin and or did he just tell them his groin hurts and they leave it at that? What treatment were they doing on the groin and how come they didn’t notice that he wasn’t responding or that he was further hurting himself?

This type of medical treatment and news is BS to me (not yours, I mean their handling of things). I guess essentially what we are saying here is the team misdiagnosed a sports hernia. Maybe that’s why they released it at 5:30.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 14, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Sports Hernias are notoriously misdiagnosed.
http://www.sportshernia.com/

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by TheMetalChick on Jan 14, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I honestly think if you look back at NHLers who've had sports hernia

You’ll find a lot of timelines that go this very same way. They are hard to diagnose and even though they often end up in surgery, the default preference in most situations is still to avoid going under the knife if possible.

I wanna say one of Bergenheim’s injuries as an Islander looked like it was heading this way and he was out for a while but eventually avoided surgery, IIRC.

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1979-80


May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.

The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.

1980-81


May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.

Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.

1981-82


May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.

A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.

1982-83


May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.

Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.


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