On Veteran Tryouts: The Jay Pandolfo File
One of the "why not?" reasons you extend a training camp invite to a veteran who played zero NHL hockey games last season is the remote chance you catch lightning in a bottle -- a Diet Moulson, if you will. But the more likely reason is to reinforce to your young team just how precious it is to have a job in the NHL.
Odds are Jay Pandolfo does not make the Islanders opening night roster with his training camp invite. But odds are he's going to bust every last fiber left of his tail to beat those odds.
Having tasted the good life, and spent a year without it after shoulder surgery, he knows what's at stake. He knows how to master "the little things" that coaches desire with regularity. In pursuing those, he should be an example for, possibly an inspiration to, the young Islanders upon whom the future of the franchise rests.
Former Islander Dave Scatchard wasn't a training camp invite in St. Louis last year -- he had a two-way contract. But with new Blues GM Doug Armstrong seeking to set a new tone for his young precocious lineup, Scatchard was the Pandolfo Armstrong needed.
Scatchard didn't make the lineup and toiled mostly in AHL Peoria. He did get some NHL time with the Blues later in the season -- eight games in December after the Blues became the only team that could say they knew what the injury-ravaged Islanders were going through. Those ended up being the last games of Scatchard's NHL career.
1996-1997 Devils 46 6 8 14 -1 6 0 0 1 61 9.8 1996-1997 Albany River Rats-AHL 12 3 9 12 0 1997-1998 Devils 23 1 3 4 -4 4 0 0 0 23 4.3 1997-1998 Albany River Rats-AHL 51 18 19 37 9 24 3 4 2 154 11.7 1998-1999 Devils 70 14 13 27 3 10 1 1 4 100 14.0 1998-1999 United States-WC-A 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1999-2000 Devils 71 7 8 15 0 4 0 0 0 86 8.1 2000-2001 Devils 63 4 12 16 3 16 0 0 0 57 7.0 2001-2002 Devils 65 4 10 14 12 15 0 1 0 72 5.6 2002-2003 Devils 68 6 11 17 12 23 0 1 4 92 6.5 2003-2004 Devils 82 13 13 26 5 14 1 2 4 140 9.3 2004-2005 EC Red Bull Salzburg-Austria 19 5 7 12 0 2005-2006 Devils 82 10 10 20 2 16 0 0 0 116 8.6 2006-2007 Devils 82 13 14 27 -5 8 0 1 1 109 11.9 2007-2008 Devils 54 12 12 24 10 22 0 0 1 78 15.4 2008-2009 Devils 61 5 5 10 -12 10 0 1 1 63 7.9 2009-2010 Devils 52 4 5 9 -10 6 0 0 3 71 5.6 2010-2011 Springfield Falcons-AHL 12 2 4 6 -2 4 1 0 0 19 10.5
Pandolfo has been working out in Boston, which is why there were hints he might be doing a training camp invite with the Bruins. Last week he told the Boston Globe:
"Going to give it one more chance. Once you stop for good, you’re obviously done. I’ll try and give it one more try here. If it works out, great. If not, that’s it.’’
Pandolfo was the kind of speedy, smart forward that the New Jersey Devils used to churn out from some assembly line at Lou Lamoriello's cottage. Not exactly household names, but names you knew from their Cup years, all those Maddens and Pandolfos are on their last legs now.
Pandolfo's fade was accelerated, as so many are in their mid-30s, by injury. A surgery-necessitating shoulder injury at the end of 2009-10 helped feed the Devils' decision to buy him out under the Great Ilya Cap Crisis of 2010. At the time Pandolfo reportedly requested the waiver/buyout, with one version of events indicating he was told via text that he wouldn't dress for a playoff game he'd been verbally told to be ready for.
A 12-game tryout contract with AHL Springfield was his only pro hockey in 2010-11. When you're already a grinding forward, losing a step can be the step that's the difference between the NHL and retirement.
If he impresses, it's not yet clear whether the Isles are interested in, or whether Pandolfo is open to, the Scatchard-type two-way deal. Teams whose AHL affiliates are so close to the parent at least make that more attractive for a veteran in his Sim years. That's probably the best Pandolfo, who's never scored more than 14 goals nor reached 30 points in an NHL season, can hope for.
But whether the BU grad has anything left at age 36 is for training camp and that rehabbed shoulder to decide. With his roles and talent in his long Devils career, counting stats were secondary, so any goals or lack thereof won't be the measure for this preseason.
For the Islanders, whether they have another veteran 4th-line forward in the mix on opening night isn't really a big deal. But having another guy around to help their young players understand how precious and short an NHL career is? Someone who can demonstrate the pro habits the way old Oilers Rangers once did for a rookie Doug Weight, in a process repeated on countless teams throughout the years? That's probably worth a training camp invite.
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If he somehow is solidly in the top-12
… do Isles cut him in favor of keeping Matt Martin or Haley, or even Rolston?
Probably a mute point. But it may not be bad to have him around as 13th-15th on the depth chart just incase. How many forwards did Boston utilize in their playoff run? (Enough to keep Seguin out of the lineup many nights even with a couple injuries.)
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Sep 5, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Martin is the only spot I could see him taking
and that would be a real long shot at this point.
No Sleep 'til....
have to agree
if Nino is on the team, that would mean 11 roster spots are filled.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Sep 5, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
So that would make the battle
Between Haley, Martin, Gillies and Pandolfo for Reasoner’s wings. And one for first scratch…
The way thing are shaking out, it may end up being that Martin how back to the BPT to learn to be a PF for 20+ a night riding shotgun with Ullstrom and Rhett. Now that it’s established that Haley can play a sound game and punish a bit, as much as I hate to say it, maybe that is the best move for Martin.
Crazy but awesome problems to have…the other thing is that even the “healthy scratches” are pencilled in right now with 7th d man, unused goalie du jour, and Gillies. How many do you get?
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 5, 2011 6:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agree
I think Martin either goes to Bridgeport to develop; or if they think there’s nothing left for him there, splits time in the lineup and the press box with Haley (and possibly Nino).
Gillies is probably at Bridgeport unless needed. I don’t see a need to waste an active roster spot on him.
Seven defensemen definitely seems a given.
The wild card will be whether they need that third goalie or not.
So Garth is using Pandolfo as a tool???lol
I wonder if Pandolfo know’s that he’s being called upon to bust his ass in order to show the young Islanders what it takes to make it in the NHL and to show these kids how short an NHL career can be..
I dont know about this theory, Dom…It would kind of be fucked up to do to the guy, lol…
I do not think
its anything new. When players are reaching the tail of their career , a lot of them will do anything to continue to play the sport they love. Most of the time, injuries force their hand to retire. They know what they are up against, because they were once rookies as well and saw the same retiring class, year after year. If they can score a two way contract or a trip to the farm team, while getting paid to play for the season, that is just one more season before they have to quit playing a professional sport.
If I am not an all star and I am a blue collar grinder, I want every year I can get because I do not have the luxury of getting paid top dollar, but I do still love playing hockey.
by ghalbart on Sep 5, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I second that
Pandolfo knows what he is getting into and his hunger for a roster spot will be good for a club that, heading into camp, is pretty set with who is going to make the pro club. A little competition is good and maybe Haley and Martin can see what someone who has been in the trenches day in and day out does to be successful.
Plus busting out a Stanley Cup ring in the locker room is always nice.
Even if they were top dollar at one point,
when they lose a step they lose a large part of the check too. I know that Madden was reported to be a huge bonus during practice and in the locker room for the Hawks for their Cup run.
Besides, with all the off season drama this year, I would be seriously afraid of hitting the retirement line…
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by burpchelischili on Sep 5, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe off point
but someone explain the roster to me on the right? Doornbosch, Frischmon, Joensuu, Sims all listed. Jesse is off to Europe, the others, can’t remember any talk about them and if this is a current list, where is the beached Shark?
It's not a current list
It is updated sporadically. Some of the names on there are guys that played the one game on an amateur tryout (Campanale, Doornborsch). at the end of the season when the defense was destroyed with injury. It will be more accurate once the season starts.
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Sorry about that. I’ve been toying with removing it until they get it resolved. But I kind of like the other vitals as a quick-reference point.
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