Game Recap: Isles Get Streit Back At It in 6-2 Win Over Devils
Mark Streit was simply outstanding in his first real game in 17 months. He quarterbacked a potent powerplay(3 for 6) and was everywhere defensively finishing with a goal, two assists, and a team high 23:44 of ice time in the Islanders 6-2 drubbing of the Devils "B" (ish) squad. The Isles newly assembled number one power play unit included Travis Hamonic and Frans Nielsen in addition to usual suspects Matt Moulson and John Tavares and was mostly dominant with puck movement, tape to tape passing and a slew of scoring chances throughout the game. Hopefully, this is the start of a beautiful thing, but preseason performance caveats apply.
|Event Summary| Box Score | Game Summary
| 1st | 2nd | 3rd | Final | |
| Islanders | 2 | 3 | 1 | 6 |
| Devils | 1 | 1 | 0 | 2 |
NYI-NJD Highlights & Analysis (9/24) - Islanders - MSG.com
The HNL! crew break down the highlights from the Islanders-Devils preseason game
Mark Streit Interview:
Tonight was some confirmation that Garth Snow was again brilliant in locking John Tavares into the contract extension. JT actually looked stronger, smarter and faster than last year. He was noticeable on every shift winning races to pucks, refusing to be knocked off of puck possession and making outstanding passes to create scoring chances. What is more amazing, is that he did all of this in 14:36 of ice time. There were points where he reminded me of Jagr skating through the entire Devil zone.
Other Notables:
- The entire FnGO line was also outstanding. Grabner continued to generate turnovers and scoring chances with his speed (which if you can believe it, looks improved). Kyle Okposo didn't hit a post, and Frans Nielsen finished with a three point night also (all on that new fangled power play).
- Travis Hamonic looks like a stud still
- Matt Martin looked a bit faster and played well toward the end of the game when put on a line with Josh Bailey.
- Bailey looked okay tonight. Not spectacular, but steady.
- I thought Eaton and Jurcina looked kind of sloppy. This may not be a good pairing. Both are pretty slow.
- But Aaron Ness is damn fast. But also damn small.
- The top rookies: Nino Niederrieter had a nice debut on the top line, but for me, it was difficult to tell if that was him, or the fact that both JT and Matt Moulson looked so good. Nino certainly didn't do anything to hurt himself and perhaps he was helping to open up some space for his linemates, but I would like to see how things go with some others before making a judgement of where he belongs. Ryan Strome did not do much and looked a little sloppy and tentative, but again, linemates can come into question here as he was centering Tim Wallace and Jay Pandolfo tonight.
- Trevor Gillies is a beast. We may hear some nonsense about his "sucker punch" of Cam Janssen in fight one, but he absolutely pummeled him in fight two.
- Kevin Poulin and Al Montoya both looked solid but not spectacular in their debuts, but I didn't think they were tested much.
- Staios not bad, Pandolfo, not much. Caveat that Staios played with Streit can be taken into account here.
Additional Coverage and Links:
Streit scores in return to lead Isles past Devils - NHL.com - Roundup
Interesting Interview with Cam Janssen on Gillies "sucker punch" [Fire & Ice]
Preseason wrapup: Isles defeat Devils, 6-2 [Newsday]
Stellar return for Streit - Hockey Blog - ESPN New York
Isles power play propelled win - New York Islanders - News
Islanders look to take big step forward - NHL.com's 30 in 15
Tavares aiming to stay on upward climb - NHL.com's 30 in 15
Islanders center John Tavares believes the pain of last season will be the club's gain in the 2011-12 season.
Matt Cooke's Boarding call via Ryan Lambert
As the days until real hockey drag on, the roster should dwindle down to the fittest of the fit and we will get a better sense of where the Islanders stand, but all in all, there are reasons to be slightly optimistic as October approaches.
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I know it's a preseason game...
but that was crazy encouraging to watch.
I think I forgot just how great a player Streit is.
Watching Mark Streit make that sweet outlet pass to Grabs my friend and I (after jumping up and yelling because of Grabs breakaway) were talking and realized that was the first chance he ever had to do that in a game situation.
Mark is fantastic. It is so fantastic to see him playing again!!!!
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Sep 25, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Gillies was beastin' in that second fight.
That’s the only highlights I have seen. Any highlights on the web?
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Sep 25, 2011 10:10 AM EDT reply actions
From what I can see...
the Islanders are a bunch of thugs
I hope they fix this streaming issue. I really can’t think of any reason they could black out of state fans from the games. They are both MSG teams, neither was showing the game on TV. Was it the closed circuit feed?
I really hope they explain it at some point.
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I think it has something to do with MSG having the rights to the broadcast of the game, even if they elect not to show it. I believe that they are unfortunately the ones who are allowed to decide what plays to which audiences, not the team.
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by TheMetalChick on Sep 25, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
They should at least let us pay to watch it.
If they charged people 5 bucks they could make some extra cah. hard to believe they black stuff out we don’t even have a chance to see anyways, how strange.
No highlights? Really?
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Sep 25, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, the highlights thing is a big bummer too
I’ll look around throughout the day, but I don’t see any from the Bruin game yet either. I think this is either an NHL or network issue though. In checking out the Devils stuff on ILWT, the Devs weren’t even streaming the game and anyone that saw it used the Isles feed. Just another example of poor promotion on the NHLs part.
For teams with little to look for in the season, getting excited for rookies and prospects is a great way to keep their interest. (As we all know)
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 25, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
And what do the Devs and Isles have in common? MSG.
They dont give a crap about our preseason games unless either team is playing the Rags.
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by TheMetalChick on Sep 25, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Dolan doesn't need our money...
… and he obviously doesn’t want to the Islanders and Devils to be around any longer than they have to be. NYer’s should all cancel whatever part of their package gives them MSG and just go to bars to watch the games. Or organize viewing locations… like a VFW, KOC… or a church basement… but then you’d have to kick the Ranger fans out.
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Fuck You Dolan
nice to have a better owner (& GM)
really happy to have seen this in person – highlights should be available
ridiculous
MSG?
You might be right, but I’d like the organizaton to explain that. They don’t get televised, and the video is streamed only to those who could reasonably buy tickets for the game for the event.
Doesn’t that appear to be counter-productive for the organization you are trying to promote. Isn’t that a conflict of interests. The devils’ fans have the same argument. Their not exactly on the top of the world either.
Who ever is pulling the strings, it’s just not good. If they could get us the rookie games, I’m pretty sure it’s not an NHL or FCC thing… it’s just plain silly.
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If they could get us the rookie games, I’m pretty sure it’s not an NHL or FCC thing… it’s just plain silly.
The rookie games were not official preseason games. The fact that we could all see those but not the actual preseason games is even more of a sign that this is a MSG thing.
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by TheMetalChick on Sep 25, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Center Ice
this is more likely. They are not broadcasting any games, and the NHL Network is promoting the usual suspects, so I can see there being an issue there. Center Ice may controll the out-of-market rights, and they may not waive their exclusive rights so that 5 more people watch TOR play St. Catherine’s.
You’d really think that the NHL would want every fan to see as much pre-season as possible. So it’s on them as well.
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by JPinVA on Sep 25, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right, MSG
Seems they’re usually behind the curve with this stuff — a few years ago were preseason games ever televised, and would anyone have imagined the demand for a stream of a summer rookie scrimmage?
These must be the low-hanging fruit and afterthoughts in TV rights contracts, but it seems so damn silly when you could easily (I think) throw a bone to diehard fans and pimp your network at the same time.
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In light of no video highlights
Can we get a JPinVA +/- recap for those of us who were not able to watch?
9/24 VS NJD +/-
+ thadeus, 2012 and many others trying to help a brother out…
- NHL Broadcast restrictions (confirmed by NYI Twitter response to my whining) for blacking out the game on the net for us out of towners….even those who have the Center Ice package.
+ LHH for providing an entertaining blow by blow as it happened.
+ MSG for making hilights available… and for 2112 fro digging through the dumpster to get them.
+ For Gilles/Janssen for providing a helluva scuffle for hockeyfights.com
- Islanders for not scheduling all pre-season games againstTOR so out of towners could see them on TML NHL Network
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Oh yeah, duh
How can I expect +/- if you couldn’t watch the game…
by Dorfer on Sep 26, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
MSG Netwrok
and thats a problem for me in NJ in the regular season 4 teams in all and at best 3 channels to watch so when all 4 are playing, 1 is bumped up into the premium area so I cannot watch except on one of the streaming sites.
NHL Restrictions
I am a Twit… I found this response today from the NY Islanders. I had replied to their link to the stream on Friday night, and they sent me a direct message.
NYIslanders
It’s NHL broadcasting restrictions.
23 Sep at 19:20 Delete
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Yup, I believe that.
So its MSGs fault for electing NOT to broadcast, and NHL broadcasting restrictions prohibiting the team from doing whatever they want to do. I still blame MSG- because if they just showed it just as one Isles/Devs mutual broadcast, they would of course been able to do so- and thins problem would not have happened in the first place.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Sep 25, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really.
I still wouldn’t have been able to see it. And after all… Me me me… IT’S ALL ABOUT ME!!!!
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ah... BUT,
if it was aired on MSG, there would much more likely have been… alternatives. :)
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by TheMetalChick on Sep 25, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
That's true...
I could have driven up to NY and watched it at my parents’ house… but then I’d rather have driven the extra 30 miles and watched it live.
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
I don't know who to blame, MSG or the NHL....
They both suck
No way I'm cancelling MSG
For 13n bucks a month I get all the NY, Boston and about everyother local sports channel. Combine MSG with NHL center ice and I get all the interviews and pre-game shows about the isles.
BUT like JP said, why are only the people who can walk across the street and watch it live are offered it online? Isn’t taking away from ticket sales? Do they think I can just fly to LI for a pre-season game? WTF?
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Sep 25, 2011 10:50 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I don't expect..
…anybody to cancel MSG. It was just a way to my weak punchline.
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by JPinVA on Sep 25, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The only reason I don't switch to FiOS is because they don't have MSG in HD...
I had FiOS for a while and the technology for the DVR is a million times better…FiOS allows you to organize your recordings and prioritize them so you don’t miss a game instead of something inferior…Cable doesnt give you that…All it tells you is what you have recording in the coming week or so…This is the reason Dolan what allow verizon to show the MSGHD feed…There would be no other reason for NY’ers to keep this cable garbage..
Fios is still worth it
my family switched and haven’t looked back since. When I go over houses that have cablevision now I just get frustrated with the layout and speed.
Isles jerseys I've owned: Fisherman, Tim Connolly, Josh Bailey RBK Edge edition. I've got a history of success.
I can say that I agree...Watching an Islander game in HD is so much better than regular D...
in reg D you cant see the puck very well…Most of the time you cant really tell if there was a goal until the players raise they’re arms to celebrate…Its so much better in HD…If I was a casual Isles fan it wouldn’t be worth it…But you’re talking too a guy who watches almost every single game…
Props to Cam!
He was stand up in his interview.. and that’s more important than winning or losing a hockey fight. Well done Cam… but if you make a team it’ll be more likely you’ll be going against Haley or Martin next time.
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by JPinVA on Sep 25, 2011 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Look at it this way guys
ALL the Isles actual games are on TV… just a few years ago the Blackhawks couldnt even say that.
I think there are still teams in the NHL where all their games are not played.
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Yeah i believe it was last season
or maybe the one before where some of the sunbelt teams didnt have their games televised. Not as in they werent playing on the local channels, as in they werent playing anywhere. You simply couldnt watch the games
"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992
I remember many years ago when you had to have Sports Channel for Isles games...
I kind of fell out of the loop for some of those years since I didnt have it…That sucked
Was there last night. Good sized crowd there
Had a lot of fun, and they played great. Some thoughts that I had:
Staios: Played really well. Just from what I saw last night it would be nice for us to keep him this year but we just dont have any more room for defensemen
Bailey: looked ok. needs to shoot more
Hamonic: played great, but him in number 3 is killing me. I thought wallace in the 36 was hamonic half the time
Gillies: second fight was awsome
Streit: REALLY happy for him to be back. He played amazing. Power Play was working really well with him back
NYI-NJD Highlights & Analysis (9/24)
“The HNL! crew break down the highlights from the Islanders-Devils preseason game”
http://www.msg.com/our-teams/islanders/nyi-njd-highlights-analysis-924-1.73720
This is condensed to about a minute fifteen, but shows a bunch of goals & oughtta hold us over from some of our withdrawal symptoms.
PS – Here are some pictures:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/gallerylanding.htm?id=23951
by Isles2011 on Sep 25, 2011 12:08 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Thanks for digging this up
going to put it in the main piece.
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 25, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
for some reason i am not expecting much from Brodeur either
every year he’s a little bit older…and was already showing it last year
by CanadianIsleslifer on Sep 25, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I noticed that too!
“Brodeur wasn’t playing, so would the jury please disregard the entire preceding clip. Thank you.”
Thanks...
I don’t know why I don’t like rummaging around MSG.anything, but if you wanna climb in the dumpster, I won’t ask questions.
I wouldn’t have enve thought “dumpster”… but Trautwig is such a rat’s ass… where else would he be.
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by JPinVA on Sep 25, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dumpster diving
While scroungin’ around the dumpster I did come across these MSG highlights, as well as a dented can of unknown foodstuff possibly containing MSG. (“Could be lunch meat, could be peaches. Who knows?”).
Basically, 2 types of MSG. Whats the difference, you ask? One has possible serious adverse reactions, long-lasting effects, hyperactivity in children, and overall questionable safety for the general population, especially in larger doses. The other is a food additive flavor enhancer.
by Isles2011 on Sep 25, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow some of those goals were beauties
-Grabner’s poke-and-run and pass to KO.
-The two powerplay tic-tacs.
-Moulson’s great “I’m going to pass it. Do you see this Johan I’m going to pass it? I’m going to pass…no I’m not.”
I like hockey.
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Bailey = dog house
Check out this article on the team’s site re Bailey. The article (and Capuano"s quotes) makes it sound like Bailey’s spot on the team is very much up in the air – not that he is fighting for a roster spot (though he’s sort of lumped with Staios) but that he doesn’t seem to have a claim on last year’s spot on the third line.
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Sep 25, 2011 12:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I was in the live blog on islanders.com last night, and "The Reporter" was hinting quite obviously that he thinks Bailey's spot is indeed up in the air.
I would be shocked if Bailey did not start this season with the Islanders…can he even be sent to Bridgeport without clearing waivers?
can he even be sent to Bridgeport without clearing waivers?
No
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 25, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
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I saw someone arguing
that the reason the Isles took so long to sign Bailey is that they wanted to sign Bailey to a 2 way deal, and another person pointing out that it was pointless to sign him to a 2 way deal since he wouldn’t clear waivers anyway. It was a funny argument.
"Failing upwards! How come I can’t ever seem to do that?" - AP77 on Strang's ESPN Job
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
Those arguments are made by people who do not understand what two-way deals mean- I think getting that wrong is one of the most common errors that hockey fans make.
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by TheMetalChick on Sep 25, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
the person also thought that the 2 way deal meant that Bailey didn’t have to clear waivers, and this was someone that was being PAID to write Islanders stories on a major site.
"Failing upwards! How come I can’t ever seem to do that?" - AP77 on Strang's ESPN Job
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
We have seen lots of errors by "pro" writers
Last year a bunch of them were insisting that whether Rick was placed on LTIR or not had to do with the Isles making the cap floor- ridiculously untrue of course, but it was repeated by people who are supposed to know better.
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by TheMetalChick on Sep 25, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Very interesting
The Reporter kept referring back to that link in the discussions regarding Bailey
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Sep 25, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
No way they'll "GRABNER" Bailey.
No way he makes it through waivers… and no way they take the chance… no way!
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I read that as
We know what Josh has. Josh knows what Josh has. He’s as hard on himself as we are, so we don’t need to single him out — he just needs to put it together.
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Bailey is his own worst enemy..
he needs to find his Zen…
For me....JT was the big story last night
Young players get better; old ones decline…that is part of the formula when you decide to rebuild from the draft (it takes patience). Last night, JT looked significantly stronger, faster and more confident than last year. JT is going to have a HUGE year. I expect the same from Grabs, Hamonic, Como and even Franz (who’s hitting his stride). Let’s Hope Bailey and Nino show significant improvement. Isles may suprise this year…Buy your tickets now.
Yeah, I'm saying it right now: JT-35goal/80pts season this year. He looked amazing, stronger on the puck and faster. If he keeps progressing, people could be saying Crosby who? lol
But Dats is the ultimate offensive magician still imo, he puts Crosby’s playmaking/puckhandling to shame, has a great shot(which he underutilizes because of his unselfishness), and is more complete then Crobsy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkmqJHANjgk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCKLRkqvCdM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iS6gr4Qvv4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5KkwRXN_lM
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
am thinking more like 90
30-50
and Grabner could get at least 40 goals – maybe even 50
he will get so many opportunities
so much for my math skills
what is wrong with the education system in this country?
32-55 = lets say 87 then….
by Cary K on Sep 25, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
80 points
seems reasonable though. Must be a great feeling going into the season knowing the contract situation is sorted out.
Hockey Prospectus projects 33 goals and 42 assists in 76 Games Played.
for 75 Points. So pretty close, and if he goes all 82 games, he’d make that.
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Pitchf/x enthusiast.
This, regarding JT, is a bit over zealous...
and is more complete then Crobsy:
That satement
is regarding Datsyuk, not JT…and is really a great debatable statement. Datsyuk may be better defensively and physically, but Crosby is so offensive that he doesn’t have to be as good defensively (usually).
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Datsyuk is like Crosby + Neilsen.
He may be as skilled offensively as Crosby, but he plays more of a Defensive game. All in all, I prefer Datsyuk as a player.
Agreed
I think Datsyuk is more valuable. But Crosby is not all that bad defensively, so I think it’s a close call. The Pens/Wings recent series were a lot of fun to watch. The moment that sticks out the most to me is J Staal stripping the puck from Zetterberg (or was it Datsjuk), which led to a huge goal for Pens. Staal took over at the end of the game, even with Dats, Zet, Crosby, and Malkin playing their hardest. (I believe Pens came back from 3-2 games to win Cup that year.)
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Sep 26, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Crosby is good on D, but Dats is better. In five years, Crosby will probably have surpassed Datsyuk at his prime,
but for now, I prefer Dats. And he just seems like a great guy. Crosby’s personality is like wood.
Crosby's also a Penguin
so that turns my hatemeter up to 11 or so.
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Yes. And it's really the only reason I dislike him.
If he played for pretty much any other team, save the Rangers or Devils, I’d list him in my Top 5 favorites in the league along side such greats as Datsuyk, Iginla and Nielsen, but he’s a Penguin, and therefore not on my list. Don’t make me racist, I just don’t like Penguins.
Racist? Speciest if we are talking about peguins I'd guess.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
I'd take Datsyuk over anyone. He is the ultimate highlight machine and he's has a great personality and demeanor.
He is how every hockey player should be and plays like every hockey player should play. It might sound silly, but I might even argue that Datsyuk’s offensive abilities are close to Crosby’s then people think. Datsyuk makes people look stupid at both ends of the ice. And Datsyuk plays a heavy defensive game, has the softest hands in the game, the best creativity in the game, and has a hell of a shot when he unleases it(accurate and hard). And he hits really hard for a guy that’s only 5’11’’ 195lbs. And for a player of his caliber, he’s just extremely unselfish. I’ve seen him give up numerous empty net goals by trying to give his linemates a shot at a goal, even if he’s in point blank range. I bet he gives up 5goals a year easily because of that. He’s the reason I’d get center ice if it wouldn’t black out MSG.
Just unreal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziG7bfS3mU0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_c5bNXaVfQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gR_0F92MK0 (Fighting Perry, lol)
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Highlight video won't embed, so left a link
Also linked this Tavares article from Brian Compton
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Today's Waivers
Notables: Jed Ortmeyer, Trevor Smith (haha), Luca Caputi Jeff Finger It’s still early though and waiver activity should slow down, but become better quality. Grabner’s shake loose a little later hopefully.
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Shaone Morrison as well.
I know some were hoping we trade for him.
Now we can have him for free.
He has very good size and is only 28 yrs old.
by The Danish Backhand of Judgement on Sep 25, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like Tuesday's game will be on NHL Network
No Sleep 'til....
by Anarcurt on Sep 25, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Evidently the long arm of Dolan
stops at Saskatchewan.
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by Dominik on Sep 25, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
don't get too excited
it’s only because we’re playing a Canadian team that we’re getting any love
Pr*j*ct**ns lead to long term injuries, just ask the asian guy from Inception
True
Isles should just play Canadian teams and the Rags all next preseason.
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by TheMetalChick on Sep 25, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like a Stanley Cup season, to me
Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.
"Sounds like a Stanley Cup pre-season, to me"
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
A Few Things ...
Performance – I think for the most part we all saw the same game (pending restrictions) and came out with the same observations.
Thuggish Isles – Did anyone mention what a great 2nd fight between the “Stache” and Janssen? Yeah … that was a real good bruhaha. On the 1st fight… as expected as witnessed on “In Lou We Trust” … the same ole same ole whining about Trevor Gillies not belonging in the NHL … blah blah blah. Saw it in the game thread too. Look … we all saw the same thing … and we saw Trevor chucking in a half hearted jab at Janssen, who by the way blew it off … and acknowleged that happens… However I didn’t see any Devil / Anti-Isle fans mention that when Trevor fell back … Janssen was still throwing punches … hey … it happens.
No MSG / Web Streaming Blackout – The only thing we can definitively blame MSG for is not airing the game on one of MSG network’s 2 full time channels… I’m not sure what they aired … perhaps Red Bulls Soccer and college football. I’m sure us Isles and Devils fans would of rathered the game air on MSG or MSG+. Had Fox Sports NY or Sportschannel still existed I’m sure we’d of seen the game. I just don’t think MSG wanted to have to pay for the production and talent required to air an exhibition game between their two biggest rivals. Sure it sucks for us, but it is what it is.
As far as the Web Blackout for out of market viewers goes … That’s the NHL. Not MSG. MSG has nothing to do with blacking out the webcast for a game it’s not even carrying. The NHL and it’s franchises (included the Islanders) restrict viewership of out of market teams to NHL Center Ice package and NHL Network … whether the game is available or not on those media networks. It’s part of protecting territorial rights. It sucks … but as the federal government tightens restrictions of internet to also include broadcast rights via recent FCC expansions, they must honor those blackout restrictions … and trust me … they (NHL and member clubs) aren’t complaining about it. That’s the way they want it.
Perhaps as someone suggested a Center Ice Package subscriber will be able to log onto their account online and view any game if they are out of market … for perhaps an extra $2 a month would be fair.
Broduer Not in Last Night’s Game – So What? Troutwig is a tool. Brodeur is NOT the same Marty Broduer that terrorized a team’s GF stat. Not that I think he wouldn’t of done better … he’s just not the same goaltender he was, with that same stingy defense that played infront of him. As a huge Devil fan (former Islander fan trader) told me 3 weeks ago … He was concerned about Brodeur… He feels Brody is in the same place in his career where Smitty was in 86-87 as the Isles became more Hrudey’s team. He just don’t see Hedberg as the guy who can take the team from Brodeur.
Well… aside from all the questions surrounding Brodeur … The Isle’s “A” squad out played the Devil’s “B+” squad… They pretty much did all the little things right … and when needing a big play … they executed, while at the same time keeping the fires set by the Devils to a minimum.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Sep 25, 2011 2:52 PM EDT reply actions
But Center Ice is designed specifically for out-of-market viewers
With Center Ice, you are never deprived of the opportunity to view a game…unless it’s not broadcast or it’s on a network like Versus/NHL Network which you have the opportunity to buy in any market. There’s no reason to pay anything extra to get additional games,
Center Ice doesn’t air preseason games, so the NHL just seems to punt in these situations…or divert people to the few broadcasts they choose to offer over NHL.com. I can buy that MSG doesn’t want to produce a preseason game and doesn’t want to air an inferior/unstaffed product.
Gillies: No shock that Devils fans whined about Gillies, but … they have Janssen. I mean, those two players exist for each other.
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Islanders confirmed...
in a direct response to my whining that it was indeed an NHL broadcast restriction… If I wasn’t such a TWIT I’d have seen that and let everybody know friday night.
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the same ole same ole whining about Trevor Gillies not belonging in the NHL …
It’s not whining and has nothing to do with one game vs. the Devils. It’s his ‘body of work’ that makes me believe he doesn’t belong on an NHL roster.
But as Keith Quinn aptly pointed out, you need enforcers in the Atlantic, and I get that. But to me Gillies is a bit different. I just think he is bad for the sport.
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Yea
Like those times he effectively ended the careers of Eric Lindros and Paul Karyia … wait that was a different guy.
by afrosupreme on Sep 26, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did you get to see Janssen's comments about it in Fire & Ice though
I mean, he even basically called Gillies an honest guy. I’m not going to defend the job, but I will defend the guys (on both sides at this point) that do this job…it is dangerous, there are mistakes that are likely to be made when you play on fear and adrenaline that you are going to get your face smashed in.
I know I’ll never get anyone to agree to this, but Gillies is basically tainted (as an enforcer, not a hockey player…his play taints that) from that one incident with Tangradi and the poor timing of having to defend a boarded teammate in his first game back from that. I’m not sure how much you’ve seen of Clutterbuck, but he is essentailly like Hollweg running around out there, and delivering borderline questionable hits. I can guarantee you, he will soon hurt somebody bad.
Also, I don’t expect anyone to necessarily know the backgrounds of opposition fanbase enforcers and their 2-3 minutes per night, but pretty much everyone has a bad enforcer moment. There are still horrible players around who have done far worse…like this Penguin AHL farmhand who just recently retired…give that a read…that’s why I’m pretty sick of the Gillies thing, while the Pens have had tons of these guys on their roster and farm team for god knows how long.
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 26, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
On that note
Leafs fans still complain about something Janssen did as a Devil … maybe a late hit on Kaberle or something?
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I was at the Lighthouse last night..
Hopefully, this is the start of a beautiful thing, but preseason performance caveats apply.
and I am feeling confident.
The will is inside.
BTW: Webby
It’s Sunday… and my coffee just didn’t taste the same. I think you know what I mean. (wink wink nudge nudge)
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your the best JP
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I assure you my friend,
that this is not true… but if it gets me a prospect report within the next two weeks… you keep on believin’!
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After the first week of AHL hockey, and I’ll have a preview of whose in and out and where the week before. Or as soon as the Islanders roster is finalized so I know who is playing where.
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Jansens attitude is awesome. He knows these things happen.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Sep 25, 2011 6:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 3 recs
More Jansen Comments (article w/link):
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…Janssen had engaged Gillies in a conversation as they lined up for a faceoff in the first period. That was well before the Islanders started to punish the Devils in what became a 6-2 rout. “I asked him (to fight) on our first shift,” Janssen revealed. "He said, ’Let’s play.’ I said, ‘OK, let’s go play.’ Then the score kind of got out of hand and I said, ‘No, it’s time to go.’ "
Janssen gave Gillies reason to fight. “He had to stick up for his teammate after I kind of ran him over at center ice. It was just one of those things,” Janssen said. "They scored a couple goals on us and we needed to get something going. I was trying to get my team pumped up a little bit. It’s just something you have to do. I like to do it.
“I was trying to get my team going. We all needed to get going. I don’t think we played bad. I just don’t think we played physical.”
There is respect between Janssen and Gillies. “Absolutely. We were both tagging each other. He’s a tough dude,” Janssen said. "He’s been a tough guy for a long time. We’re going to be going against each other a lot, I think. We both have to make the team. If we do, we’re neighbors and it’s going to be a blood bath all year.
“We both need to play, too. It’s not just about me and him fighting. It’s about us playing and picking the right time to do it. Policing and sticking up for our teammates. It all goes together. I think they need a guy like him and we need guys like me and Eric Boulton. They (the Isles) have three guys like us. Keep everything on an even keel….”
Cool quotes. I really like Trevors response when he was first asked to fight. I dont remember where I said it, but I was just saying somewhere here on LHH how I thought Trevor wanted to actually play- and he really did. HE also did a great job once the bell was rung. I dont know, I like the guy. I didnt say he was perfect but reading what was said here puts him in a positive light as far as Im concerned.
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by TheMetalChick on Sep 25, 2011 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
As much as I think Gillies does more bad then good, especially with Haley and/or Martin in the lineup.
Gillies is a top heavyweight fighter/enforcer in the NHL. He does his job really well.
And Janssen is a class act. But Janssen saying he ran “Martin”, almost injuring him, just to get Gillies attention is worrisome to say the least.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Worrisome? Maybe- butmore than anything else I think its just really honest.
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by TheMetalChick on Sep 25, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's the whole NHL enforcer loop in a nutshell
As long as teams dress players whose only purpose is to go hurt someone, teams will dress an equivalent player to fight them and take them out of the equation. It’s easy for abolitionists to say “but Gillies is never on the ice with Tavares, how could he even protect good players?!” but the reality is it’s way more ambiguous than that up and down the lineup. (And I am not a big fight, but I know that as long as it exists in this form, teams are forced into these decisions.)
Still prefer them to the Cooke/C. Lemieux types who hit dirty, often evade penalties for those hits, refuse to fight, and then are lauded for “getting the opponent off their game” when what they’ve really done is played dirty and gotten away with it both from the refs and the enforcer-justice system.
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by Dominik on Sep 25, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Still prefer them to the Cooke/C. Lemieux types who hit dirty, often evade penalties for those hits, refuse to fight, and then are lauded for "getting the opponent off their game" when what they’ve really done is played dirty and gotten away with it
100% agree!
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by TheMetalChick on Sep 25, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll take a rabid dog like Trev, who goes berzerker crazy on opponents faces with his fists to cheap shot throwing cowards who actively seek to end other players' careers with dangerous play.
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by BrassBonanza10 on Sep 25, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Janssen's quote
I haven’t seen the hit he put on Martin, but I havea feeling that Cam meant that he ran him the same way Martin has run dozens of guys. He saw an opportunity to lay a hard body check on a guy and he took it. I don’t know if it was legal or not, but I haven’t heard anything to the contrary.
If Shanahan stays true to his word Trevor will end his career in the AHL next year… or whenever. The 3min per game player will be a thing of the past. It won’t eliminate fighting, but it will probably eliminate the brawls, and the ridiculous obligitory WWF matchups between heavyweights.
Guys like Martin, Haley, Asham and others will be contributors with other skills, and protect their teamates as well. If only they could replicate the Gillies gene there would be very few Matt Cookes left in the league as well.
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by JPinVA on Sep 25, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
We have the technology
If only they could replicate the Gillies gene
I think they’re trying, at least. He’s certainly held class and opened up his DNA for them to see.
I chuckle now at every opposing Gillies “why he doesn’t belong” reference because I know immediately they only know the headlines, not the back story. Makes me wonder what I miss in the details about the 28 other NHL teams.
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The thing that really annoys me most
Is people always single out Gillies, as if almost every other team in the league doesnt have an enforcer who does the same exact things that Gillies does
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Clark Gillies
I actually meant Clark Gillies. I forget that they have the same last name sometimes…
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I would be shocked if Cam is on the opening day roster. The Devils AHL affiliate lost about 800 penalty minutes from last season and need a goon to protect some of the kids down there. Primarily for the games when they have to play the thugs from Adirondack. I think Cam is slated for Albany.
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Gilies too really
I’m getting the sense that there is going to be a ton of goony call-ups for divisional games this year…and Bruin games.
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 26, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Enforcers have a sort of code of honor, that's what separates them from the cementheads and assassins. Reminds me of Stew Grimson.
And I loved Grim. Dude was an "All meat, no filler, “You wanna fight? Okay. You wanna run my guys? DEFEND YOURSELF, BITCH!” punch ya in the mush" old school enforcer.
Fighters aren’t the NHL’s problem. Filthies like Cooke are the NHL’s problem.
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by BrassBonanza10 on Sep 26, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
The Flavor to Savor...
JT actually looked stronger, smarter and faster than last year. He was noticeable on every shift winning races to pucks, refusing to be knocked off of puck possession and making outstanding passes to create scoring chances. What is more amazing, is that he did all of this in 14:36 of ice time. There were points where he reminded me of Jagr skating through the entire Devil zone.
This sounds so good, so very, very good…
Sounds like a guy on the verge of an….EPIC BREAKOUT…[cue fanfare]
The entire FnGO line was also outstanding. Grabner continued to generate turnovers and scoring chances with his speed (which if you can believe it, looks improved). Kyle Okposo didn’t hit a post, and Frans Nielsen finished with a three point night also (all on that new fangled power play).
Ya got me, Baby! Ya reelin’ me in! Now hit me with more! I GOTTA HAVE MORE FnGO!#christopherwalken
Travis Hamonic looks like a stud still
Bringing the thunder! Turn it up!
Nino Niederrieter had a nice debut on the top line, but for me, it was difficult to tell if that was him, or the fact that both JT and Matt Moulson looked so good. Nino certainly didn’t do anything to hurt himself and perhaps he was helping to open up some space for his linemates, but I would like to see how things go with some others before making a judgement of where he belongs.
Not sweating it. He’ll get more time going forward, we’ll see how he does.
Ryan Strome did not do much and looked a little sloppy and tentative, but again, linemates can come into question here as he was centering Tim Wallace and Jay Pandolfo tonight.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Strome’s just getting a look this year before heading back to juniors to bulk up for next year, like Nino last year. I think the Isles are in a position to actually let their first round gold develop a little longer before bringing them up to the show and that’s a great place to be.
Kevin Poulin and Al Montoya both looked solid but not spectacular in their debuts, but I didn’t think they were tested much.
Right now, the only thing that matters is that their knees look healthy. If their movement looked fluid and nimble, that’s all that matters.
Throw it all together with Streit showing well un-freakin’-believable in his first game in ages and it sounds like everything’s coming together to me.
And now, a selection to countdown to the season to…
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