Preseason Notes: Bruins 6, Islanders 3
by Dominik on Sep 23, 2011 10:28 PM EDT
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PrintDylan Reese scored two Islanders goals and Trevor Frischmon scored the third. That's what you call preseason.
Box Score | Event Sum | Game Sum
| 1st | 2nd | 3rd | Final | |
| Islanders | 2 | 1 | 0 | 3 |
| Bruins | 0 | 2 | 4 | 6 |
Rick DiPietro played two periods giving up two goals on 22 shots. Anders Nilsson relieved and was flat out lit up for four goals on 14 shots in the third. To be fair, two goals on Nilsson were wide lateral passes that left him out to dry, and the third was deflected (though high, at the point). The fourth was up high short side by Rich Peverley -- brilliant for Peverley, bad for Nilsson, caught leaning in a league where you cannot.
Jeremy Colliton hurt his groin early in the game. A few more notes follow.
Notes and Doodles
Josh Bailey played with Blake Comeau and P.A. Parenteau on a line that became decreasingly visible as the night went on. (To be sure, the Islanders became increasingly dominated as the night went on.) Not sure if that trio, the only full "NHL line" in the Isles lineup, faced exclusively tough matchups from the deeper Bruins, but that's a safe assumption.
- Apparently Parenteau laid a big hit on giant Zdeno Chara though, so that sounded fun. Ty Wishart also tried to lay a good check on Chara, but came away only with an A for effort.
- Reese had two nice goals on slap shots, but he was also burned in the corner on the Bruins' second goal. Ty Wishart was also culpable, leaving his man too much space in the slot to get a great sniper shot off.
- Reports were Rick DiPietro looked good early, including his watched-like-a-hawk lateral movement. His first goal allowed was of the poor form variety though -- down on his knees, instead of staying square and scooting laterally, he ended up lunging with his catching hand to try to stop a modest deke.
- The defense left Nilsson alone on his first two conceded goals -- Mike Mottau cheating to Steve Staios' side on the PK, leaving Denis Seidenberg wide open on the back door, then Wishart and Reese combining to allow another essentially back door situation on Nilsson.
- I like David Ullstrom.
- Curious moment when Calvin de Haan pinched, the pucked was poked by him, and though Matt Donovan was the first to get back and retrieve it in the Islanders zone, de Haan was in no hurry to get back. Probably nothing, but in preseason you nitpick because there's so little to see.
- De Haan (23:13) and Donovan (21:55) led the team in ice time. Mottau also logged over 21 minutes and looked healthy at least.
In case it's not clear, the Bruins lineup was much deeper and more regular, which is no surprise for the preseason home team vs. a road team on a back-to-back. No real expectations tonight and of course no real conclusions reached. But not much to feel good about; this post is more for record-keeping.
A Fight-Like Occurence
Justin DiBenedetto went after David Krejci with a few minutes left, taking exception to a Krejci hit on Ty Wishart. I didn't see Krejci's hit, but the Bruins radio announcers -- who unlike Jack Edwards, announce things in a sober way -- sounded like it was nothing noteworthy. Krejci wanted no part of that, and rightfully so. DiBo got the book thrown at him, with an instigator, instigator with face shield, fighting major and a misconduct.
Quality by Degrees
It's funny: Steve Staios is no longer known as a quality NHL defenseman. But throw him into a lineup like tonight and he does stand out as a guy with NHL experience. Just had a certain intensity and decisiveness. Reminds me how thin the margins really are on a continent where about 2,000 pros are fighting for about 700 jobs.
Saturday Night
Regardless, expect a better lineup Saturday night at home vs. the Devils. The Isles have a 2-for-1 ticket offer for that one. They are also organizing a pre-game blood drive, where the first 200 donors will get two vouchers for a weeknight game.
Finally, the game was streamed on the Islanders site but blacked out for out-of-market folks (and some in-market folks). Here's their streaming schedule, though expect the same for those.
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Thanks, NHL
The Haley on the 2nd line and you don’t let me watch, and not only that, you can’t show me any highlights on NHL network.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Sep 23, 2011 11:04 PM EDT reply actions
So preseason streaming -
Does that mean, then, that none of those games will be on TV? So there may be more evenings like tonight, when we were treated to the same Devils/Rangers feed on MSG and MSG+? I see one preseason game on TV, against Calgary, is on TSN, which is also pretty unhelpful.
Then again, it’s not like we have a studio host anymore, or a play-by-play guy for another few weeks…
Soiunds like Strome's in for tomorrow
strome18 Ryan Strome
Just beat @Aaron_Ness in ‘WORDS with friends’ on our iPads so bad he quit. Off to bed now, really excited for my 1st game tomorrow!
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But first, a little Words with Friends
Looking forward to seeing Strome play in the game. I’m on Long Island for the weekend, and it looks like I’ll be going to the preseason game.
Can i just say
how awesome it was to see six COZO comments within fifteen seconds of comeau doing his first COZO of the pre-season?
Patience is not only a virtue, its the only virtue. I'm still waiting for the other playoff series wins.
by CraigConway on Sep 24, 2011 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
That was pretty sweet
And I loved the commentariat pointing out my error in not crediting a full COZO on the play. It’s like we were discussing art. Well … we were discussing art.
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ahhahah
the breakdown of the COZO was just as good as the actual COZO
Patience is not only a virtue, its the only virtue. I'm still waiting for the other playoff series wins.
results were predictable if anything
the stanley cup champions A Team verses the Isles third line and farm team.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Sep 24, 2011 12:22 AM EDT reply actions
Good news?
I suppose it is good news that DP looked better than Nilsson rather than the other way around. We’ll just have to wait and see how he develops now. I guess he’ll be off tonight. There are enough goalies to have a look at – another good thing.
Absolutely!
Anders is just getting a feel for this size ice and this was his first time doing so against any NHL players, so I totally agree.
He gets a 100% pass from me. :)
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by TheMetalChick on Sep 24, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Anders'll be FINE, I submit; looked impressive early on.....
…..and as noted, the defense collapsed to a certain extent in front of him – largely due to fatigue and facing what, has also been noted, is/are the 2010-11 Stanley Cup champions…..hasn’t faced prime-time NHL action until now and did OK in my estimation. McNeely and Haley are beginning to resemble each other QUITE closely; Martin is probably headed back down to the Bridge as a consequence, with Tyler likely shuttling back and forth and Reasoner/Ralston assuming the pivot position on that line…..TOLD people that Reese was better, possibly a LOT, better than he showed last season and tonight’s display proved it somewhat – he’s gotta tighten up more around the net, but if he can maintain that sort of offensive consistency, he’s the default reserve D for sure. My instincts tell me Staios is looking a whole lot like our 6th but it’s still early yet, of course. Looked a good deal better than Mottau out there. As for DP, we need to see first if what did tonight was an anomaly…..
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if Reese = 7, Mottau = 8
Streit = 1
Hamonic = 2
Eaton = 3
Jurcina = 4
Wishart = 5
Staios = 6
once Amac is back, he slots in at 3, who’s the odd man out then? Staios may need an injury to occur to stick
de Haan, Donovan, Klementyev, Ness are the next 4 at BPT
unless we make a deal or other late pickup
Staios doesn't have a contract yet right?
And I’m pretty sure Reese is below Mottau on the depth chart, his defense yesterday was less then par.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
agreed
Staios probably only sticks if there are injuries but tonight is his chance to show what he’s got
Reese is a bit of Jeckyll & Hyde to be sure
Mottau strikes me as someone who is okay in a spot role only – would rather Reese play as the 6
.....I just had a thought: our use of goaltenders may closely resemble.....
…..a pitching staff this season – hopefully bringing added meaning to the baseball-appropriated expression, ‘pitching a shutout’! What I mean is, with Rick’s persistent and legendary (!) health issues, maybe he provides both starting support and relief of sorts….
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have been thinking the same
no reason for a Keeper to play an entire game, really
rotation – may actually make sense for this team – in BPT as well
Reese scores 2 goals
on Tim Thomas?
This does not bod well for Boston
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by Mark D on Sep 24, 2011 6:59 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So do you guys think
that those two goals are gonna buy Reese the de facto spot as #1 depth call-up?
Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.
Wishart has to start on the pro team, otherwise he has to clear waivers. So that means at the very least he would be the 7th or 8th defenseman.
The whole reason the Isles keep Reese around is so they have someone they know will clear waivers. For short term injuries, Reese was always going to be the callup. But I don’t see him getting more then 20 games. If someone goes down for the season Reese shouldn’t be the answer.
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Yeah Wishart pretty much has a lock on a roster spot with the Isles
Even if Wishart has to sit in the press box he isn’t going anywhere as Isles don’t want to risk losing him. As WebHard pointed to the Isles have a choice with Reese to send him down to Bridgeport but none with Wishart who has to clear waivers which he probably wouldn’t. It’s about depth and we know injuries will happen as we saw with Katic.
Is that Webby's porn name?
Lit House Productions presents….Exhibitionist Hockey, Starring WebHard, Les Beaver and Nympho Needarider
This will be shown between the second and third periods of tonight’s game… You’ll especially enjoy the scene where TMC and Francesca order a chicken parm from Vincent’s and the delivery boy (WebHard) brings sausage and peppers instead.
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by JPinVA on Sep 24, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
not convinced
if we send Reese down, that he wouldn’t get claimed
not ideal
we definitely do not want to lose Wishart – he has nice upside
kind of too bad we can’t send him down – he could use another 1/2 season at BPT but what can you do
you really..
haven’t fully grasped the who “REPLY” thing, have you.
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by JPinVA on Sep 24, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
someone would have to be desperate
To claim Reese. Really Desperate. He has no upside and is a career AHL’er.
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Tonight's lines
From Staple:
Forwards
Matt Moulson-John Tavares-Nino Niederreiter
Kyle Okposo-Frans Nielsen-Michael Grabner
Jay Pandolfo-Ryan Strome-Tim Wallace
Matt Martin-Josh Bailey-Trevor Gillies
Defensemen
Mark Streit-Steve Staios
Mark Eaton-Milan Jurcina
Aaron Ness-Travis Hamonic
Goaltenders
Al Montoya, Kevin Poulin
Interesting lines
This is going to be an exciting game. That Josh Bailey line is very curious.
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We might see a lot of Bailey on the 4th line this year
with Reasoner around.
Not likely. Reasoner is born to play the role the 4th line did last year.
Bailey, not so much.
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not really
Unless you expect Gillies to get more then 3 minutes of ice time. So the line becomes
Martin – Bailey – Nino/Grabner/Wallace
I’d expect of those 3 that Grabs would get the most time, as Martin and Nino don’t sound like they compliment each other that well.
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Caps will give every opportunity to allow Nino to play on 1st line
the upside is too great not to let that happen. I see no reason to mess with Frans, Grabs and KO on the 2nd line. Reasoner and Rolston could mix with BC but we’ll see. Martin and PAPS are pretty much locks for the everyday lineup. Bailey needs to step it up otherwise 4th line or the press box for him replaced by the likes of Gillies, Haley or possibly even Pandolfo if he the isles keep Jay.
your reading too much into what I’m saying.
They are just going to do what they normally do when Gillies “plays”. Give him 2-3 short shifts, and rotate other wingers onto the 4th line. It’s just a preseason game anyway.
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by Mark D on Sep 24, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I do think it's pretty telling where Bailey is lined up though and that he dressed for the first two pre-season games
Snow and Capuano are probably at their wits end with Bailey. I wished they would have traded him especially after they acquired Reasoner and Rolston as I see no room for Bailey on the 3rd line and it seems a waste to put him on a 4th line with the likes of Gillies, Haley, Wallace, Parenteau and Martin around. Bailey is just a distraction at this point and I bet he is either moved or sits in the press box as depth.
I wouldn't read too mutch into it
Bailey already played yesterday and is just filling in for the injured Reasoner. Under normal circumstances he wouldn’t play tonight.
Yeah, and this way he shouldn't get many minutes on the 2nd of back-to-backs
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You don't showcase a guy
by putting him on the 4th line though. And also, I can’t see how they’d be at their wits end with him while still giving him a 2 year 2+million contract. If they were that fed up, they would have gone 1 year and really showcased him on the 1st or 2nd line. Again it’s preseason, but usually, a trip to the fourth line isn’t raising a guy’s value on the trade market.
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 24, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
2 years, 2 Million
signing him that way made him even more appealing to other teams I’m sure
esp. if we are willing to take on someone with a bit more salary
I don’t think there’s any question they would trade Bailey & Nabookov for a large person on D, if that deal was available – maybe even someone really good with a few more pieces
Garth is likely quite busy behind the scenes methinks…
If you think Bailey or Nabakov have trade value,
you’re kidding yourself.
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Nabokov has trade value
Just on the basis of how cheap his contract is in a league with a Salary Cap.
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Wow
Gillies in a preseason game? I guess the Devils are going to dress a goon and give the fans a little minor league style entertainment.
I think Trevor might have aspirations of playing some normal shifts in the preseason. Good for him.
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by TheMetalChick on Sep 24, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Isles need him and he should dress on most nights
The rest of the NHL fears him and it seem to work no matter what they say. To me it’s just lip service when I hear how bad he is for the game. Of course other clubs want him out of the Isles so they can intimidate the rest of the Isles with their own goons. Having a guy like Gillies only helps the rest of club. He is well liked in the dressing room and great in the community. Gillies knows his place and is a asset to the Isles, sorry Mario.
by rickrays on Sep 24, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
We don’t need him most nights. He can’t play hockey. We absolutely need him for a handful of games, but the rest of the time he should be in the AHL if we want to win games.
by afrosupreme on Sep 26, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
^ OK, this is where I said that about Trevor... I couldnt remember. :)
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by TheMetalChick on Sep 26, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Or Mario is going to cry and leave the sport again. Why owning a team that signed a guy who thinks it is okay to grab a skilled guy just to send a message.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Sep 24, 2011 11:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe Gillies goes every night
In the event that some AHL or junior scrub wants to make a name for himself by starting tomfoolery.
Or maybe Gillies is just a popular treat for the home fans.
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Hopefully both, there Dom.
Although some Isles fans don’t like him very much.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Sep 24, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting notes:
Streit is not paired with a legit defenseman (Staios) – meaning the plan seems quite likely to have Hamonic and AMac paired together once again (AMac being injured, can’t practice with Hamonic yet). Alternatively, AMac could be joining Streit. Eaton-Jurcina is a possible 3rd pair line. God knows the Isles shouldn’t seriously be considering Staios for anything after camp.
Hey look a legit top 6….sort of (Nino being a ?).
I wouldn’t put any stock in Bailey on 4th line – it makes sense to give him less minutes given that he’s one of two guys on this roster who worked yesterday. So he’s stuck with Gillies. Odd that Martin isn’t with Strome instead of Wallace or Pandolfo, though.
Finally, poor Ryan Strome gets no support with awful line mates. Which makes it seem pretty likely they don’t see im sticking around after camp.
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Yeah, when I saw that lineup I was thinking, Why do that to his talent? Well, if he's the most noticable on that line, I guess we can assume he'd be a decent ahler this year(small sample size yes, but feeling it out).
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Strome: Speaking of one game being meaningful?
I don’t expect him to stick, but I don’t think the line for one game is much indication. Figure on some cuts to thin this camp out at mid-week, and then we’ll see more reasonable lines for the last two games. Remember this is Strome’s first NHL game — might be merely getting his feet wet first with some older hands.
Seeing Staios next to Streit makes me nervous. Streit can make a lot of guys look good.
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6 on D
Streit – Staios
Amac – Hamonic
Eaton – Jurcina
Wishart
Mootau
(Reese to BPT – may get claimed)
works for me, for now
we must be on the hunt for a large person to team with Streit
Strome is clearly heading back, but he is a kid
Yep, you want Staios after one game, despite the fact he's been terrible for 2 years.
On first D-pair no less.
Unbelievable.
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you have to learn how to read
or I have to learn how to type more clearly
I’m only talking about tonight
Staios only sticks if he shows more, or there are injuries
that’s clear
you ought to calm down
It's not quite clear when you include Wishart and Reese
neither of whom are playing tonight.
Thus the confusion.
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If Staios stays...
and earns a spot, this makes more sense than you might think.
The last time Streit played the bulk of his minutes were with Bruno. The L-R dynamic was probably more important than having two quality D out there 5-on-5. This pairing made Bruno better, and Streit more comfortable.
I’d actually swap Staios and Jurcina, and make Streit-Jurcina my second (in minutes) pairing. Streit will get the bulk of PP work with Rolston or Hamonic, While MacDonald will get the PK duties with Travis.
If Staios doesn’t look horrible it wouldn’t be the worst thing to have him on the big club while deHaan and Donovan get time at the bridge. Wishart/Mottau in the press box if they aren’t carrying 3 goalies also works. It doesn’t matter for home games when BPT is in town, but on the road the standard should be 2 extra D on the plane.
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Stopgap Staios
Agreed, not the worst thing, especially if/when other kids aren’t ready. Just nerve-wracking because the signs are all there for a letdown. Staios has been a decent D-man in the past, but not lately — he’s also been injured and on awful teams, so maybe there’s something left? And he’s a veteran who knows how to look good in camp, make the sale.
So I can buy him having a good camp, showing he’s still able (especially if babysat by someone like Streit) … but then it’s as the season goes on when I’d figure the age thing catches up and rears its head. And of course telling veterans “thanks for time served, but your time is done here” mid-season always ends up being disruptive in its own right.
But yeah, better to take those potential lumps now than to rush a kid who’s not ready. (And that’s the art of it here: Sometimes the kid goes all Hamonic on you, sometimes he needs a much longer adjustment period. You just never know. But you get burned twice when you expect a kid to do a Hamonic.)
I’m just shouting into the wind wishing there were better options. They tried the overpay/overcommit with Ehrhoff, and may end up lucky that didn’t work out. The backup plans that don’t tie you down (even Mottau last year this time required two year) probably look like this.
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True enough on Strome
Definitely overanalyzing every line that isn’t FN-GO (Which I feel fairly confident in saying, barring injury, will stay in current form)
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Just wondering, was Nabokov on last night's roster?
Or is he on neither team. I know he didn’t get action, I’m just wondering what’s the situation on him so far(at training camp, doing all the activities, etc).
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
He's been in the fold
Maybe he draws the straw in Saskatoon?
Montoya is starting tonight, Poulin will also get work.
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didn't Nabby talk about not really being in game shape?
probably needs a bit more time to get his act together
would imagine he’ll start the next Preseason game
On the off chance it's a problem with fans
I wouldn’t start him on LI either.
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 24, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Oooh, I didn't think about that
Ha, man we know drama.
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Matt Martin
Should be getting time on the Strome line. First for protection. Secondly, because Martin SHOULD be playing a different role this season. He needs to get some quality AHL minutes to possibly be ready for middle six minutes. Creating space for batter players should be what he’s doing in the pre-season.
Martin-Bailey-Strome <- this is how it would look if I was coaching.
Jay Pandolfo is auditioning for the NHL, not the NY Islanders. Who cares where he plays unless it benefits the Islanders. Ullstrom and Nino are the guys that need the most time in the pre-season, and Strome is in that category as well… kids trying to get an NHL job with the NY Islanders.
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Real interesting that Pandolfo & Staios get to play both games
Probably want to give them a serious look before anyone is cut.
No Sleep 'til....
Any one want to guess how many people will be at the game tonight?
Probably wont be sold out right? Im getting the tickets from the box office so I would be pretty dissapointed to drive an hour and a half to find that its sold out.
Don't worry
It wouldn’t be sold out tonight if they were giving the tickets away for free.
by afrosupreme on Sep 24, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Probably wont be sold out right?
Dont worry, absolutely no chance :)
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by TheMetalChick on Sep 24, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Oddly...
the only lower bowl tickets available on StubHub are behind the Devil’s bench in 115. I don’t know if that’s because nobody bought these tickets for re-sale, but you might want to call ahead. Doubt it would be SOLD OUT, but the give-aways might restrict you to the upper levels.
A lot of people want to see Strome and Nino… and if late last year was any indication, the Colly shouldn’t have the Tuesday Night blahs on Saturdays anymore.
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What's that? Ah -- Sold Out?
Don’t talk about — sold out?! You kidding me?! Sold Out?! I just hope we can sell out a section! Any section!
DP looked surprisingly agile yesterday.
A little questionable in a couple decisions(leaning body with the 1st goal, played the puck once I thought where he shouldn’t have,), but a good improvement from last year in his movement.
A little surprised they gave Reese 1st PP unit time over Donovan(given their ahl production, even if Donovan’s is short), but glad to see Donovan/DeHaan got lots of ice time, most likely a lock(imo) for bridgeport’s #1 d-pair.
Can’t wait for tonight!
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
BTW, it's really unprofessional that the Islanders don't own "Islanders.com"
How that’s been that way for a while is beyond me.
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Do any teams?
I think they are all (team name).NHL.com
Bruins and Rangers take you to some weird sites…I didn’t try for everybody, but I don’t think there are any teams with just (team name).com
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 24, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Mets.com, Giants.com (Impressively, due to SF), and Knicks.com redirect you to their proper sites.
But you’re right a lot of NHL teams don’t have it – though some of that is due to common names (Rangers is kind of hard to get).
Canucks.com, Mapleleafs.com, and Canadiens.com redirect (Obviously, Senators, Flames & Jets, not so much.)
I just think that “Islanders” is an uncommon thing enough that the Isles should be able to buy their own domain, so as to make sure nto to lose potential traffic.
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Gotcha
Yeah, the redirect thing would be helpful.
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I always get scolded for this
But I’m of the view if, upon arriving at a site for tropical resorts, a person can’t figure out how to find the official site, I probably prefer that person be a Flyers!!!1 fan anyway.
I’ve heard the Islanders site is usually in the top 5 in the league in traffic, for whatever that’s worth.
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by Dominik on Sep 24, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wild owns wild.com
Wouldn’t have expected that. But rangers.com goes to … oh dear, looks like squatters wrapped in a veneer of “we’re a business, really!”
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The rangers thing is funny.
You’d imagine the actual US Rangers, Texas Rangers, or NY Rangers would want that domain. Not so much.
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Keith's Right
Some years ago the NHL by its licensing restrictions took control over EVERY team’s websites. It has to do with uniformity and quality control. Remember … teams are a franchise of the NHL … The teams do have “almost” complete freedom with the content they display on their sites within the proper format as prescribed by the NHL. This also enables the NHL to cross reference links between teams and what not.
You might remember that some years ago the Rangers put up a huge stink about handing over “editorial” and format juristiction of their website to the NHL.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Sep 24, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Right i remember that the rangers took issue.
That said, some NHL teams do own the domains of their teamname.com (Like i said, canucks.com for example) which redirect to the official site.
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They own it for redirect purposes I guess.
I guess some teams own the rights for copyright purposes and also to provide a redirect. Most teams might not believe it’s necessary since the NHL site seems to be the main stream source and top search result for most teams. I guess it couldn’t hurt if teams provided a redirect.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Sep 24, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Last night was a measuring stick game
I think we can’t get to down about last night’s game as much as we can’t get too excited about Reese’s two goals. As most said it was an A-List AHL team with 3rd line NHL talent playing against the bulk of a Stanley Cup Champion with a Venzina Trophy winner between the pipes.
At the same time it’s a good way to measure what you have. We talk about “small sample” size all season long when it comes to muting down some excitement about a call up or acquisition. Remember the Montoya talk?
I think this one came wasn’t even a “mini” sample size … it’s a “micro” sample size. So even though it was nice to see Reese get 2 goals … I’m not going to put him down for a 20 goal season on the Isles’ blue line. Ya notice how much fan fair the Flyers and media have thrown around about Jagr getting 1G 1A in his 1st game back in the NHL? … It’s laughable … seriously.
All that said even if the Isles bury the Devils with their “A” squad tonight … I’m not going to get too excited. Again … sample size. I’m mostly interested in how they play and react to certain situations more than anything. Exhibition success isn’t measured on the stat sheet as much as it is measured by how well a player performs during their whole shift. Don’t get me wrong … if Stromer, JT, KO, Grabs, Bails and Nino light it up tonight I would be excited for “our” prospects for the future … but that would only indicate a step in the right direction … I guess the key is just to enjoy a good game of hockey and keep healthy during these games that don’t really count.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Sep 24, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions
Umm seriously.
Remember, Hillary Duff was at one point (through 2 games) on pace to score 160+ goals for a season.
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Pretty much, yeah.
That’s why preseason games always numb me. Desperate for action again, but getting total mish-mash lineups and efforts and nothing means hardly anything. The things coaches are looking for are largely micro-matchups and incidents we’re liable to not even see.
I find the rookie games a lot more fun.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
This.
Coaches in games like these are simply looking to confirm their own impressions they get in practices. So the spectators always overestimate their worth.
(I see this in college bball as well)
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Like in college bball practice/warmups, or actual games?
(I know almost zero about college basketball, other than that something fuss-worthy happens in March.)
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I went to Duke undergrad
We’d start each season with a intra-team scrimmage and then 2 exhibition games against D2 teams. Inevitably, someone would impress during those games…who would barely be used during the season. Fans would be a bit miffed.
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It helps me create interesting narrative though
so there’s that.
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