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#25 in Islanders Top 25 under 25: Anton Klementyev

Klementyev is so ninja we don't even have a licensed photo. So we'll go with one of Garth Snow, who drafted him in the 5th round.

In the two years since he was drafted out of the never-heard-of-dem hills of Togliatti, Russia, we have learned one thing beyond dispute about Anton Klementyev: He is not the key to getting Kirill Petrov out of his KHL contract.

The rest is up for debate. But this is an interesting year for the 21-year-old defenseman. The Islanders signed him to a contract quickly, bringing him from the Lokomotiv junior program over to AHL Bridgeport and moving him along in baby steps (just 28 games his first year with the Sound Tigers).

That first year included a very brief cameo with the Islanders during an injury pinch that meant nothing, really. But last year was much better. Reports out of Bridgeport were of major strides. Considering his young age, all he's been through, and the steps he took to pursue North American hockey, can you count him out of the future? Our "Top 25 under 25" panel did not.

Star-divide

For this first edition of Islanders Top 25 Under 25, I polled Keith, WebBard, mikb, myself, and two particularly prospect-focused LHH regulars, CanadianIslesLifer and MatthewM11. We wanted enough to get a decent number of voters but not so much that we make the first run unwieldy.

The truth is, if Klementyev makes the NHL for a sustained period, it will not be as an offensive defenseman and it will not be as an intimidator. Rather, it will be in that somewhat anonymous but reliable role as a guy who skates well, makes the steady first pass, is not intimidated physically (and can deliver the big hit when needed), and dutifully subs out to wait the next turn.

Throw Mark Eaton and any number of Eastern bloc former NHL defensemen into that category, but ultimately that's not a bad job nor a bad role. And that's why he comes in at #25 in our Top 25 Islanders under 25.

Top 25 Poll mikb M11 CIL Dom KQ Web
Klementyev 21 n/a 25 25 n/a 22

That's how we voted. Yesterday we listed the ones who just missed the cut, and as you can see, you could make the top 25 even if two didn't have you on the ballot and two others had you in the very last rung.

Adding to the intrigue with Klementyev -- and heartbreak, considering his entire old KHL team perished in a plane crash -- is his still-murky grasp of English. But here he was at the end of last season as recorded by Michael Fornabaio:

"This year, my second year, I’m so happy for the coaches giving me more time on ice. I was working hard."

How’d he get better? "More workouts. After every practice, I stayed and worked. Skills, skate, blocking shots. It was good."

Is Klementyev really at a level where today or later he'll be more valuable than a Justin DiBenedetto or a Tyler McNeely? I don't know. But he's intriguing enough to keep an eye on. Those steady guys can be useful.

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This isn't showing up on the frontpage for some reason

I got in via twitter.

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by Keith Quinn on Sep 21, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Weird

I think a scheduled post issue…

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by Dominik on Sep 21, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's back

Damn, Travis is all over those technical snafus huh? That’s great…like an injury on DiPietro…

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by Keith Quinn on Sep 21, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

In retrospect

I’m sorry I didn’t include Klemteyev in my rankings. He brings a quiet, steady, stay at home style that is markedly different than any of our other defensive prospects. For that reason alone I think he has a good chance to eventually make the team as a 6th or 7th defenseman. He also seems efficient in his passing and puck movement, keeping things smart and simple. He didn’t look too bad in his brief emergency call-up and has apparently made big strides since then. Bedtime Cade scenario I see him as a Radek Martinek type defender- he will never crack 25 points but will be a reliable and consistent stay at home defender

by MatthewM11 on Sep 21, 2011 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

*best case scenario

Writing this on my iPad in an airport. Heading back to LI and catching a preseason game this weekend. Apple really has a bizarre spellcheck

by MatthewM11 on Sep 21, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bedtime Cade scenario!
Apple really has a bizarre spellcheck

I love Apple for it.

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by Dominik on Sep 21, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The future is now

Wow, Internet service at 10,000 feet above sea level, amazing.

by MatthewM11 on Sep 21, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tagged

autocorrect

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by Keith Quinn on Sep 21, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm Vincent Damp Shoes

And I approve this message.

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by mikb on Sep 21, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of young 'ns

won’t remember ’ol “Damp shoes”.
so over their heads she goes.

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by since70too on Sep 21, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hat trick in the all-star game back when that actually meant something

If I remember right.

My favorite pun/slagging off of a pro player is the EPL soccer player Nigel Reo Coker, who is also appropriately referred to as “Nigel Mediocre.”

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by Dominik on Sep 22, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOLOLOL

Isn’t it funny how nobody is named anything like Nigel Neal Lawson?

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by mikb on Sep 22, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ceiling is a non-injury prone Martinek perhaps?

No wow factor but every playoff team needs good cheap depth. He has two years to prove his worth. If he doesn’t make enough progress he very well could be KHL bound (at the end of his contract). He’s really going to need to battle as the Bridge gets filled with more and more D-men.

No Sleep 'til....

by Anarcurt on Sep 21, 2011 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

That's what I think

I mentioned Radek as a best case scenario for Klementeyev in a post above. We have mobile defense prospects who can rush the puck. Also having someone like Klemteyev; who is efficient, makes smart, clean outlet passes and keeps his game simple creates a nice balance with the flashier DeHaans, Donovans and Mayfields.

by MatthewM11 on Sep 21, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?!

He’ll be gone in two years.

by BattFist on Sep 21, 2011 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Who, Klementyev?

Half your prospects turn over every 2-4 years, so…

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by Dominik on Sep 21, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

so lets dance

As a prosepect, I wouldnt use the word intriguing…rather long shot.

by BattFist on Sep 21, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

To me anyone ranked #25 is by definition a long shot

I mean even cutting off five or so who are already on the team, NHL clubs just aren’t sitting on 20 future likely NHLers.

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by Dominik on Sep 21, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Saying that Klemteyev’s chances are slim isn’t saying he isn’t an intriguing prospect. In fact- it’s the long shots that I do usually find intriguing. I listed above the reasons I like Klementeyev so without rehashing them I’ll say that what I like about him is that he is different than other prospects. What kills good prospects is being behind similar players in the depth chart. Like Aaron Ness.

by MatthewM11 on Sep 21, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

i dare say, who among us would like to ice a D unit that included: De haan, Donovan, Katic, Ness, Kichton…no matter the talent, the forward forwards of the game today would make swiss cheese outa that group…you have to have a mix, can only have so many small puckmovers, and you need some big physical D as well.

by CanadianIsleslifer on Sep 21, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

one of those happy disputes where both sides have a point

I put him highest out of our six panelists, but that doesn’t mean he’s a lock NHLer, of course. There are only 23 roster spots. Even in a deep prospect pool like the Isles currently have – usually you have at most one or two potential stars, maybe three-to-five solid contributors, another half-dozen who could be role players.

The flip side – the Isles’ top under-25s are already here. The NEXT group coming up has those potential stars, contributors, etc. So for the Isles, that 25th guy is really like someone else’s 15th, or 12th.

I rec CanIsles’ caution about the overall composition of the blueline. Six NHL-quality puck movers usually means no NHL-quality crease cleaners. So even if Klementyev isn’t quite as good as one of those, the Isles might keep him over, say… Jack Hillen.

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by mikb on Sep 21, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like mikb's point about Isles 25th prospect being 15th or 12th on most teams depth chart

this happened with Gregoire too…he is actually much higher on Winnipeg’s depth chart than he ever was with the Isles.

by CanadianIsleslifer on Sep 21, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is also new and shiny...

Id be interested to see where he fits in once he isnt.

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by TheMetalChick on Sep 22, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe if we take good care of him: keep him polished, put him back in his case when we are done

Playing with him, prevent water and debris from getting in his gears, we can keep him new and shiny looking for years to come

by MatthewM11 on Sep 22, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Shrewd drafting and stockpiling of picks over the last five years have really re-filled the prospect pool to the point where fringe guys (for us) are going to other organizations and jumping to 10-15 on their overall depth charts. This, is a great problem for us to have

by MatthewM11 on Sep 22, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

You Nailed like Yakupov on this scouting report Dom

“The truth is, if Klementyev makes the NHL for a sustained period, it will not be as an offensive defenseman and it will not be as an intimidator. Rather, it will be in that somewhat anonymous but reliable role as a guy who skates well, makes the steady first pass, is not intimidated physically (and can deliver the big hit when needed), and dutifully subs out to wait the next turn.”

That there is EVERYTHING one ever needed to know about Klementyev…i like him @ 25…

i know few if any out there get excited about 3rd pairing D, 3rd goalies and 4 line forwards, but a guy like Klementyev brings depth, that can be the difference maker for a few more wins…also, if you have to sign 4th liners and 3rd pairing D as UFAs, that can really throw a wrench into the caped budget…having cheap, youthful depth allows the team to better focus its expenditures…

final note, i really love the way this kid came to North America to play in the AHL…even though he knows he was never a high profile pick, and while his chances of making it have improved to the point where most think he will make it as a third pairing D, most kids in his state would have stayed in Russia to play in the KHL rather than toil in the AHL…Klementyev wants it…

by CanadianIsleslifer on Sep 21, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

On the coming to N.A. part

Yeah, I’d love to know what makes him tick. It’s certainly not unheard of for a guy with his profile to come over and develop a quiet, steady career. I’ll be curious if he wants to try to continue that curve when his ELC is up.

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by Dominik on Sep 21, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scouting report screams

Freddy Meyer IV. I’ll take. Had Ness ranked ahead off him, but only because I think in todays NHL, there is a couple spots on every team for a small puck moving D-man.

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by since70too on Sep 21, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree about small puck-moving D

I’ve gotten into many debates here where my position was that in today’s game speed trumps size, even on D. Maybe especially on D, with the transition game becoming more and more important. My problem with Ness (and see the comments from mikb and canadienisles above about prospects who would be ranked much higher on most other teams, IMO Ness is one of those guys) is that there are more than just a couple of smaller D ranked ahead if him on the depth chart and while I agree there are a couple spots open for smaller D, there aren’t five or six.
     I think the Meyer comparison is a good one, and that doesn’t make Klemteyev a bad prospect. These journeyman defensive D-man may seem a dime a dozen but they are always finding work- signing 1-2 years deals and are often highly valued commodities by playoff bound teams come the trading deadline. Norris-bound they are not, but these are the meat and potatoes who fill your 5-8 roster spots for defensman.

by MatthewM11 on Sep 22, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

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