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Reasons to be Excited: John Tavares

The Loneliest Man in the World? Hardly.

It's got to be tough to be John Tavares. Extremely talented from a young age, he continually got exceptions in order to play above his age level. He was also under media scrutiny from a young age due to that talent. Then to finally get to the pinnacle of hockey, the NHL Draft, and the "sad sack" Islanders are holding the first overall pick.

Yet never a bad word was spoken by JT about the Islanders, no claims that he wouldn't show and no drama -- no matter how hard Canadian sports tabloids tried to manufacture it. Which is how JT's stint on Long Island can be described so far, a lack of drama which is much appreciated. All this while blowhard GMs in Canada continue to try to stir the pot.

Although JT isn't the most exciting player when it comes to interviews or on the ice, there is something to be said for that. His interviews are exactly what you would expect from a long-time athlete who has been under intense media scrutiny. Never once have I doubted that JT wants to be an Islander for a long time and hopes to be a key part of this teams turn around. While many hockey media paint JT as that talented kid who is stuck in a dump waiting to jet out at first chance, some of them do recognize something special is going on.

Star-divide

While previous first overalls Steven Stamkos and Patrick Kane went to teams with top flight talent to help bring them along, Tavares has played with two relative unknowns. Yet he has helped turn Matt Moulson into a back-to-back 30 goal scorer and P.A. Parenteau from obscurity to a 50-point season. During that time he hasn't been a slouch, putting up back-to-back 20 goal seasons, a 54-point rookie season and 67-point sophomore season.

 

Now with the additions of Brian Rolston, Nino Neiderreiter (possibly) and return of Mark Streit there's no reason to believe that JT can't top his total from last season. Even if Parenteau isn't on the top line again, someone talented is going to be there. Add to the mix the Micheal Grabner - Frans Nielsen one two punch and maybe even more offensive punch from Josh Bailey's line, and suddenly teams won't be able to key in on just stopping JT's line anymore.

Although JT has some flashes, you have to enjoy his steady game. His ice vision, his sight, his hard work in front of the net and even along the boards. It's not beyond JT to get down and dirty. You'd think this would have endeared him to the mostly working class Islander fans. But instead there seems to be even the occasional fan of the team claiming that he is a bust already. For them, I'm not sure what else JT could have done short of carrying the whole team on his shoulders and into the playoffs. While he's had his cold streaks, you could always tell that the talent was there.

Even if he never takes front and center on the mic, or in the locker room, John Tavares is the focal point of the rebuild. It might have actually worked out better for him in the long run that Moulson and Grabner pulled some of the spotlight away from him the last couple years. The NY spotlight can be hell for a youngster, especially someone that people might be expecting the world from.

It feels like it's been a long time since an Islanders draft pick was this promising going into his third season. (Mostly because a bunch of them were traded before they ever got to their third season.) Rick DiPietro's first solid season was his third NHL season, but going into that season most people weren't expecting big things from him. JT should be able to net 30 goals this season, and if Grabner and Moulson continue their streaks it will be the first time the Islanders have more than two 30-goal scorers since 1993/94. That year Steve Thomas, Pierre Turgeon, Derek King and Benoit Hogue all finished above 30 goals.

Plus we beat some two-time defending Cup champion in a great seven-game series.

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B-U-S-T!!!!!!one!!!111!!#!$
Never once have I doubted that JT wants to be an Islander for a long time and hopes to be a key part of this teams turn around.

You, sir, are quite the optimist.

by AP77 on Sep 2, 2011 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

but I think we’d hear SOMETHING, even if it was from Eklund, if JT was unhappy playing on Long Island at this point.

I guess we’ll learn more this summer. But I think Moulson signing long term is a good sign. If I was MM, I’d surely ask JT if he was planing to stick around beyond next season before signing a 5 year deal.

"Maybe (Frans) should concentrate more on FO rather than the thugging aspect of his game." - AP77
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.

by Mark D on Sep 2, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Fact...I think JT likes it a lot here

The lack of media scrutiny on LI as compared to what he experienced in Ontario has probably been a pleasant experience for JT. Lucky for the Islanders….He was able to find a solid foundation in the Weight home when he first arrived and its pretty obvious that his relationship(s) with teammates are very healthy.

So it comes down to the same thing it always comes down to with the Islanders….the “F^%$ ’n Arena”/Status of Franchise/Owner. These questions are all raised by uninformed “pundits” that don’t really know the state of affairs for Charles Wang/Nassau County/Nassau Coliseum and the New York Islanders.

Pundits take their uncertainty and put at the feet of JT.

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by FB4Real on Sep 2, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Either that or better yet:

Matt didn’t even have to ask JT. He already knew.

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Sep 2, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd baby!!!!

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by FB4Real on Sep 2, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked him enough to buy a NHL approved JT t-shirt

which is more than I have ever done for any athlete. Ever

by Jones79 on Sep 2, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time for me to be negative, and I think a realist here.....

Wait……

 I got nothing.

Can’t wait to see how JT improves this year. I’ll be very interested in the VUKOTA Goal/Assist projections for him. We already know they predict him to improve, just not how much.

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by garik16 on Sep 2, 2011 2:56 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I really shouldn't say anything...

But I really think the emergence of Grabs (if he can keep it going) can get some of the pressure off of JT’s line.

"Maybe (Frans) should concentrate more on FO rather than the thugging aspect of his game." - AP77
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.

by Mark D on Sep 2, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's the only negative in regards to JT

He will not score a billion points this season and is, thus, a huge bust.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Sep 2, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Well played.

Meanwhile, yeah this has to be a downright pivotal year in terms of what we’ll expect from him. Normally so early, so young, I keep the book wide open, but with a special talent…prophets are waiting to hone their prophecies.

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by Dominik on Sep 2, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im back b*tchesssss

Not that I ever left – just took a posting hiatus. Still read LHH everyday as always.

I’m really looking forward to watching JT this season. Chemistry was built last year, Cappy is in full time with a system they believe in, Rolston and Streit manning the point on the PP, Streit in general, PAP fighting for a contract extension, the list of reasons why JT will exceed expectations is very long!!

I’m honestly expecting 30-35 goals, 35-40 assists, 70-80pts.

Signed,

by kcNYI on Sep 2, 2011 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

PS...

Screw Canadian media …its mostly Toronto media wanting JT to “return home” because they need a #1 center.

JT and his agent came out at some point last year and said they were pleased with this organization. If someone like Frans Nielsen, who could easily walk away next year and collect $3-4mil says he wants to resign and be a part of this franchise when we begin winning then there is no doubt in my mind that JT will do the same.

Signed,

by kcNYI on Sep 2, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frans is our MVP.

It’s a shame he is not respected my the refs or I would be in favor of giving him the C.

by themass on Sep 2, 2011 6:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

True story, Oz..

Poetic Puncuation – Howie Rose

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so4nCLy43kk

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Sep 2, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's really funny, I never noticed that.

I always thought Letang was a primadonna, and this just adds fuel to the fire there.

by OzzyFan on Sep 3, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

his defense improved dramatically last season

he not only is no longer a liability,but i believe he could still develop into a solid 2 way player as well.he is still adjusting to the speed and physicality of nhl hockey and with time will realize that a lot of points will come by forcing turnovers

by Lakewood Islander on Sep 2, 2011 4:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Going Gonzo on my JT optimism, BUT...

100 point season.

I mean it. He’s got the tools, the skills, the team, The Gift and an opportunity to show Wanger that he’s worth The Max for a looooong time.

I think he’s got something else too: He’s got the heart of a leader.

Throw it all together and JT’s going to thrill the league this year.

Then make all those jackoffs in the Canadian press cry like the small, impotent “men” they are when he signs a contract with the Isles that’s so big and fat…

…it keeps it’s t-shirt on when it goes swimming!

…if it had to take a plane, it’d be required by law to book two seats!

…if it got on a talking scale it’d say “One at a time!”!

…it looks at the menus at restaurants and says “Okay.”!

…putting the money together for it will require Wanger, Garth and a couple of guys named “Rocco” to “have a chat” with Glass Rickey to “persuade him to walk away”.

Jeff Carter to Columbus? Wait, I've seen this one before, it was called Shanahan to Hartford. Advice? Don't buy a Carter jersey.

by BrassBonanza10 on Sep 2, 2011 7:55 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

rec'd for the last one

wake me up when the isles start to play

by DarthDoyle on Sep 2, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

So many great memories from one sentence
That year Steve Thomas, Pierre Turgeon, Derek King and Benoit Hogue all finished above 30 goals.

by mdelbags on Sep 2, 2011 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Then Ferraro blew up in the playoffs after missing almost half the season.

13 goals, 7 assists in 18 games.

Great run.

The tough part about that was losing Turgeon in the first round clincher. He finished the playoffs with 6 and 7 in 11 games, coming off a monster 58-74-132 season…gotta figure if that criminal Hunter weren’t on the ice, with the momentum at their backs and a healthy Pete anchoring the offense, that series with the Pengirls may have been a jaw dropper upset and gone as few as 4 or 5 games, leaving them fresh for the Habs and at full strength and maybe they beat the Habs under those circumstances.

Jeff Carter to Columbus? Wait, I've seen this one before, it was called Shanahan to Hartford. Advice? Don't buy a Carter jersey.

by BrassBonanza10 on Sep 2, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

This might be a fun discussion in a fanpost, but I don’t think the Islanders win with Turgeon in the lineup. I think the Penguins underestimated the team after he went down, and because the Islanders spread the scoring around so much it kept them from keying in on stopping one player. I also think it motivated the Islanders too.

"Maybe (Frans) should concentrate more on FO rather than the thugging aspect of his game." - AP77
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.

by Mark D on Sep 2, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

God, that series was awesome.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Sep 3, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

They were going to be underestimated no matter what.

The Pens were back-to-back Cup winners, had an offensive juggernaut and finished the regular season 10 points better than the next closest team in all of hockey. Their top EIGHT goal totals were:

Lemieux: 69 (in only 60 games)
Stevens: 55
Tocchet: 48
Jagr: 34
Mullen: 33
McEachern: 28
Francis: 24
Murphy: 22

Eight players with 20+ goals. Teams that had managed that before them?

1970-71^, 1971-72,1972-73* Bruins
1975-76, 1976-77, 1982-83 Flyers
1974-75* and 1976-77 Habs
1975-76*, 1980-81, 1981-82 and 1983-84 Isles
1981-82, 1982-83 and 1983-84 Oilers

* indicates 9 players with 20+ goals
^ indicates 10 players with 20+ goals

Note a common thread among those teams. Most of them made it to the Cup Final and usually won it.

The Pengos of 1992-93, especially because no team had put up offense like that since the 1983-84 season and consider the last two teams to do it prior to those Pens ended up facing each other for The Cup.

Everybody and their grandmother was calling them a three-peat before the playoffs even started.

They were headed for a fall and I think with Pete, it still would have come and it would have been faster, making it even more shocking than it was to most observers.

Jeff Carter to Columbus? Wait, I've seen this one before, it was called Shanahan to Hartford. Advice? Don't buy a Carter jersey.

by BrassBonanza10 on Sep 3, 2011 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd for the use of historical data.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Sep 3, 2011 3:32 AM EDT reply actions  

JT... rhymes with JC

Here to show us the way to a better place… in a literary sense.
He has already begun to gather his disciples:
Matthew, Mark, Joshua, Peter and Kyle.
And he will be protected by Micheal the Arch-angel… who shall exile Lucifer to his kingdom under the earth.

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by JPinVA on Sep 3, 2011 7:03 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

hahahahaha, JP, I like to think of him as our hero.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Sep 3, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw

I found that picture with the original caption, That is Mottau’s son. So it explains the jersey.

"Maybe (Frans) should concentrate more on FO rather than the thugging aspect of his game." - AP77
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.

by Mark D on Sep 3, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of my favorite pics

And I figured it was Mottau’s son for two reasons:

Because he gets to greet the players as they come out of the locker room. Who gets to do that?

And who wears a Mottau jersey?

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Sep 3, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

It was from the final game of the season, so I figured they could have been doing something nice for young fans.

"Maybe (Frans) should concentrate more on FO rather than the thugging aspect of his game." - AP77
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.

by Mark D on Sep 4, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

JT

has one of, if not, the best hands in hockey. pay close attention to the things he can do with a stick. it’s almost as if he wields the puck on a string. it’s truly a thing of beauty.

"son of a bitch i'm sick of these dolphins"

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by gukid17 on Sep 3, 2011 8:17 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I had a dream a few weeks ago

About JT undergoing a metamorphosis during this off-season, returning as some kind of new-era Wendel Clark, netting 3 goals and winning his fight in the first game of the season. There were headlines on Puck Daddy like “Meet the New John Tavares”

A man can dream…

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Sep 3, 2011 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Jay Pandalfo to attend Isles camp.

http://islanders.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=587694

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Sep 3, 2011 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

where are they gonna put him?

if the isles wanna sign him to a 2-way and keep him in bridgeport on emergency call up, fine. but there are so many other players i’d rather have on my roster than jay pandolfo.

"son of a bitch i'm sick of these dolphins"

- Steve Zissou

by gukid17 on Sep 3, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Islanders need

To give a certain number of UFA veterans tryouts, same as last year.

"Maybe (Frans) should concentrate more on FO rather than the thugging aspect of his game." - AP77
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.

by Mark D on Sep 3, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bailey needs to come around.

If Bailey comes around I’d say Garth has done a perfect job selecting high draft picks…Picking up guys like Grabs and Moulson is like getting 2 more first round picks for free…We also have both Kirels and if they come around thats like having 2 more 1st rounders…With that being said, whats going on with Petrov?Is he ever going to play with the Isles organization, or what?

PS. Great post, Webby….

by KO21 on Sep 5, 2011 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

1 more year

On Petrov

"Maybe (Frans) should concentrate more on FO rather than the thugging aspect of his game." - AP77
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.

by Mark D on Sep 5, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

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