Where Mark Katic's Injury Leaves the Islanders Blueline Depth [Staios?]
by Dominik on Sep 16, 2011 6:13 PM EDT
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Update: TSN and other outlets report Steve Staios is indeed headed to Long Island on a training camp invite.
Mark Katic's reported torn labrum [update: Official report is a dislocated shoulder], which Sound Tigers beatwriter Michael Fornabaio notes was indeed the same shoulder he hurt in 2010, is a blow to not only Katic's NHL prospects but also the Islanders blueline depth going into training camp.
Katic was always likely to be a roster bubble guy for this season -- maybe he makes it a pressbox slot or maybe he's the first callup -- but his absence, especially if he needs surgery, will trickle down through the organization.
Multiple outlets have surfaced Paul Mara and Steve Staios as possible veteran invites to training camp. [Update: Staios is incoming.] With all that in mind, here's how the blueline stacks up going into the first day of skating Saturday:
For the record, Streit, Mottau and Eaton officially passed their physicals and come off IR.
Returnees
1. Mark Streit - Returning from major shoulder surgery that cost him the season. Looking good in makeup.
2. Andrew MacDonald - Returning from a hip labrum tear that ended last season.
3. Travis Hamonic - Beast.
4. Mark Eaton - Returning from hip surgery that ended last season.
5. Milan Jurcina - Ton Loc likes him some funky cold Jurcina. Will The Jurcina Anomaly continue?
6. Ty Wishart - Has some promise and I expect him to make the cut, but his projection is debated in these parts.
7. Mike Mottau - Returning from both hip surgery and an eye injury. Said over the summer he's ready to go.
**8.** [Edit with news: So maybe Staios goes here, if he impresses. I'm not sure this would be a good thing.]
Young Pups
Dylan Reese - Not exactly young at 27. Frequent fill-in the last two seasons, he could easily fill that same role this year.
Calvin De Haan - The "last defenseman cut" the last two camps, he wants an NHL gig now but will probably require at least nominal AHL tutelage.
Matt Donovan - Left college early and got some valuable AHL experience down the stretch. Not a standout in the rookie games, but they were rookie games.
Aaron Ness - Like Donovan, he got an AHL taste late last season. They'll likely form a pairing in Bridgeport.
Anton Klementyev - Some pro experience under his belt, this could be a big year to make an impression at Bridgeport. Was said to make strong progress last season.
Benn Olson - On an AHL contract. Not afraid to mess you up.
That's it for signed contracts I'm aware of. (Bridgeport's roster is not updated yet for this season.) With Katic out, they're looking promising but a little thin -- Katic had quietly become the second-most experienced guy on the Bridgeport blueline. Dustin Kohn has moved to Europe, Mark Wotton has reportedly retired.
Before before the pro camp is under way, Brenden Kichton and Andrey Pedan (as well as forward John Persson) have been returned to their junior clubs, as has rookie camp invite Art Bidlevskii. So scratch those guys off your camp radar.
Meanwhile, there are always an assortment of pro invites who end up in the picture. Let's just hope their arrival isn't elicited by another injury.
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just curious, who fills that #3 C spot?
are u moving Reasoner up to 3 and Ullstrom(or other AHL guy) to 4? Is Strome your 3? I know Rolston has played C before…
Stop being silly/stupid, Thx..
Cizikas is not making the roster, and no one thinks he is. Don’t overrate exhibition games.
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Err...you're wrong
Someone thinks he is: Cary K. You type like an IPB poster.
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by Bryan2112 on Sep 17, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
garik stop being a knob
you can disagree with someone without having to fan your own fragile in need ego — we’re all cheering for the same team, so consider it family…i happen to agree with you on the point, but i respect Cary as a diehard fan…he is free to think outside the box, and hey, Reasoner signed for two years, it just might happen if Bailey is traded but Ullstrom might have something to say about it (Strome will be in juniors till next year I think, and will start in NHL doing some time on wing)
by CanadianIsleslifer on Sep 17, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Probably not, no but
Between now and the end of the regular season I wouldn’t be shocked to see Cizikas brought up from Bridgeport for a short stint here or there. And speaking of overrating exhibition games, if anyone has proven capable of overrating them, it’s Garth ( I like him as a gm, just saying) A svelte 18 year old CDH hadn’t finished puberty but was the last cut in 09 based on a strong preseason, and a slightly huskier version of himself pulled it off again the next year. Moulson made the team based on a strong preseason (which worked out in our favor but it was still a little suprising) I would still be shocked to see Cizikas break camp but it wouldn’t be totally unprecedented.
If it was possible to get a decent youngish defenseman for Josh Bailey
Which I’m not sure it is (guess it depends on how you define decent or youngish) I think the team would be fine at center without having to rush Strome, instead using Cizikas, Ullstrom or Rolston.
Yea, so we could use that top 4 now...Garth...are you there?
Seriously though, GM’s will be tinkering with their rosters over the next month. Garth will get somebody.
A top four of
Streit, Hamonic, MacDonald and Wishart is fine by me. Sure I’d like to see another good defenseman brought in but Wishart my pick for a comer this season
Wishart will probably start as #7
Jurcina should start with Streit because of that insane shot of his. But the basic idea being that you can only rely on Jurcina to play 10 or so games before going down for 10 games.
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Wishart could be a great top 4 for us!
However I’d like someone a bit more seasoned with amac/hammer still pretty young. I think Ozzman is onto something tho, Streit and Wish could be a great pairing dwn the road
I totally agree on the Wishart hype
Having Amac and Streit available to mentor/tutor Wishart can be huge for us this year. They both seem to be proficient in masking their respective partner’s lesser attributes and can allow Wishart, a young player with some upside, to further develop his game while gaining NHL experience. I’m not sure this will happen right off the bat, but I do suspect that in the end, it will be Wishart as the 4th piece of our top 4. This is all assuming no trade is made to bring in a “top 4” defenseman and that injuries will occur. The point is, the opportunity’s their for someone to grab and with Streit, Amac and Hamonic their leading by example, I am optimistic that one of our current defensemen will step up to the plate (or ice, you get the point).
As young and inexperienced Wishart might be
I would totally take him over some washed up vet like Motteau or Staois. What he lacks in experience he makes up for in mobility. Not that inexperience on the blue line is a small thing. I just have little confidence in many of the older options. Jurcina I’m good with, he proved capable last year when healthy. We all know though he’s not going play 82 games so as long as he us pencilled into the starting lineup you better have a capable 7th d man
Have to agree
Doesn’t mean I have to like being so thin, but have to agree someone will fall. Actually like Staios as an 8th/9th guy if it comes to it…couldn’t hurt worse than Bruno…although the way injuries deplete an average d-corps our 8 and 9 guys are gonna see their fair share of time.
I would add: de Haan is sure to see meaningful minutes this year in the NHL.
PS – only way I trade Bailey is if I’m getting a STUD d-man in return.
UP THE FAMOUS CREEK
but I know I’m repeating myself, the Paddle’s name starts with B
#4 spot is De Haan's for the taking
At least it appears so on paper. Looking up and down the roster above, the Isles lack a puck-moving foil to Streit who can help out on the power play and let MacDonald and Hamonic play the tough assignments.
Though, I could see a similar path to the NHL as Hamonic, a little AHL time and then when Mottau or Eaton flame out it will be De Haan’s time to shine.
what if
we separate MacDonald & Hamonic
put one with Streit and one with de Haan
Streit – Hamonic (I like the sound of that pairing)
de Haan – MacDonald
Eaton – Wishart
Mottau
would be nice to have another big bruiser – but there aren’t many available – good luck with that Garth
Staios
de Haan – Staios
sounds very compelling
I like the contrast of a solid guy like Staios with the flashy de Haan
You do realize Staios is terrible?
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But he's new
Aren’t all new players from other teams inherently better than current Islander players? That is, of course, until the current Islander leaves the team for another team, which obviously then increases their value ten fold,
by Empire39 on Sep 17, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Jurcina is?
He’s big, has a nice shot, and is missing from this list?
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by Mark D on Sep 16, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like the sound of..
Eaton @ MacDonald;s, okay, I’m just hungry.
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by bossy2219 on Sep 16, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
HA!
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Sep 16, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be more than happy to turn this green for you
I just scored another Tuscan Dairy goal!
by Chris McNally on Sep 17, 2011 5:32 AM EDT up reply actions
and while you are there...
You could have Hamonic und juce right down da streit frum da mottau where we are all stayin’
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
i see it as a non NHL issue
b/c i was never a fan of Katic, or Ness or most of the other smallish, puck moving D men. It will hurt in Bridge Port, but I am noticing a lot of small D men there…incidently, I feel the same/similar way about Rahk. Needed in AHL to push development of other players, but I think both are too small. If I’m drafting a smallish player, it needs to be a pitbull like Cizikas…Little Tonelli.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Sep 16, 2011 7:07 PM EDT reply actions
I'd actually consider Klementyev more of a long term NHL shot
by CanadianIsleslifer on Sep 16, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Klementyev
He is just very understated.
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by TheMetalChick on Sep 16, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's more of a Long Term Project
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Klementyev may wing up a stronger player on the NHL level than some of the heralded prospects. He’s already had a cup of coffee with the big club.
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I like the kid
and I think he’s going to be good, but 1 game is barely a cup of coffee
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heheheh
Only half a cup? Don’t you like the rich, full taste?
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I think it was instant coffee
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with coffee-mate
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Hmmm
Klementyev never has a 2nd cup of coffee at the NHL level…
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 17, 2011 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
Rec'd like all the passengers and crew who had fish
Rec’d like Joey’s opinion of KAJ
Rec’d like Striker’s sweat glands
Rec’d like Lloyd Bridges’ sobriety
Rec’d like the faces of all the religion-pushing zealots
Surely I could keep going…
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by Bryan2112 on Sep 17, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You can...
… but stop calling me Shirley.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Sep 17, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha
You ever been in a cockpit before?
No sir, I’ve never been up in a plane before.
You ever seen a grown man naked?
by backstop87 on Sep 17, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My Dad says that sometimes you're lazy and don't go back to play defense
You tell your Dad to try covering Gretzy and Messier for 22 minutes a night
by 4PeatSake on Sep 17, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit rec’ing.
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by Pauly C on Sep 17, 2011 10:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Does he like pucks black... like his men?
I don’t mean to sound too forward, but…. I don’t think we’re gonna make it through this, and I’ve … never been with an NHL club before.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Sep 17, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ain't no thang
Check it, bleed. Bro… was on! Didn’t trip. But the folks was freakin’, man. Hey, and the pilots were laid to the bone, Home. So Blood hammered out and jammed jet ship. Tightened that bad sucker inside the runaway like a mutha. Sheeet.
TRANSLATION: “Mr. Klementyev performed exceptionally. The fans were very concerned. Some rookies were incapacitated. So Mr. Klementyev took control and played well. Golly!”
by Isles2011 on Sep 17, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Isles 2011
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by 4PeatSake on Sep 17, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
some threads should just automatically be green
This is the best message board ever.
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by mikb on Sep 18, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Beautiful...
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I'm in a similar boat
sort of surprised this became an NHL talk, as I still see Katic as a 7 dman at best. Although i guess all the injury returnees leave them vulnerable to another run of poor health.
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by Dominik on Sep 16, 2011 10:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Big hit to BPT
But not as big a loss to the Isles as letting Hillen and Merty go. They were the leaders in GP last year. It was a little short sighted to let both of them go… especially considering your UFA history. It would be a shame to throw away another season due to injuries and lack of depth.
I think some of the above comments are correct. It might be time to deal from a strength and try to get a long term 75G 20+ min/GMM defenseman.
STRENGTH means, Bailey, Comeau, Kabanov, Petrov, Lee, Nelson, Ullstrom, Sundstrom and draft picks. 2 of those are probably going to have to be tabled for a good young NHL defenseman.
This was a problem before Katic went down, but the injury inflates the urgency. Somehting needed to be done whether Katic was injured or not. If they wait for another injury the price will go up.
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
Liked what I saw of Katic last season, but.....
……refusing to panic – at least not just YET! I think Wishart’s going to surprise some people and we’ve got enough prospects at the Bridge to muddle through until a wily veteran defenseman can be pried away…..
Hillen I agree with. But not Marty. He was a leader and then suffered a major injury in the worlds. Don’t want the rehabbing Marty again.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Sep 16, 2011 8:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Me too
Right now last year looks like Marti’s outlier year.
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by Dominik on Sep 16, 2011 10:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why both?
Marty because of age, Hillen because of size, but why both… especially after the disaster that was last year.
You figure you need 492 games from defenseman. Eeither would have been relatively inexpensive, and probably would have eaten up 55+ games at a minimum.
So you leave yourself with the following cast of NHL defensemen:
Streit, just missed a whole season
Eaton, missed most of last season.
Amac, coming off surgery,
Mottau, missed most of last season
Jurcina, on and off of the “able to perform” list all year.
Hamonic… second year pro.
Does that look like the defense of a playoff contender. That really is my only grip with the off-season this year. No NHL depth on D. We’re going to have to keep our fingers crossed all year.
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
Oops...missed Wishart
I like Wishart, and I think he’ll contribute 50+ games to the effort… but he is a question mark as far as quality, and quantity of minutes he’ll contribute to the agrigate effort.
After that it’s Reese and AHL rookies.
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
Agree
this means more to BP than to the Isles, but I’m not too worried about letting Martinek or Hillen go. I liked Hillen and thought he could have fit into the plans, but at the same time, I like that there are talented rookies, like CdH, or young guys with some experience, like Klementyev, waiting to fill holes at the NHL level now.
If they do sign someone for BP I’d prefer it to be a career AHLer, to continue to give these guys a chance to play big minutes in the AHL and be the first up for NHL fill-ins.
It might be time to deal from a strength and try to get a long term 75G 20+ min/GMM defenseman.
STRENGTH means, Bailey, Comeau, Kabanov, Petrov, Lee, Nelson, Ullstrom, Sundstrom and draft picks.
Except that some guy JP who lived in Virginia once told me you shouldn’t trade any horses while they’re still colts (or something like that.)
Also, some giant middle-earth tree shepherd once told me, “Let’s not be hasty.” But by the time he finished bellowing out that sentence, we lost 6742 man-games to injury, the coach, the season, and the new areener…so maybe you’re right >;-)
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by Bryan2112 on Sep 17, 2011 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not arguing that with you
If I said that…then I’d have been wrong.
I know he can get the job…but can he do the job?
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
i wouldn't make a trade unless it made the team better now and in the future
we have lots of depth on forward with prospects, but don’t yet know who will make it to the show and who will be a bust, nor who will make it but not as high as projected…what i am saying is, the danger could be we fill one hole by moving assets prematurely, and end up making more holes…i’d like to avoid that…but for the right player, such as Doughty, yes, if the price is right you have to make that trade, but i am not into gambling
by CanadianIsleslifer on Sep 17, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Same with Hillen
Before Hillen got hit with the OV slapper 2 years ago he looked like a solid offensive defenseman with plus speed and reasonable defensive skill. I thought he’d turn into a top-4 guy. Then the slapper to the face happened and it took him basically a full year to show anything resembling the same level of skill. I’m not sure why they let him go. He was definitely better than Katic or Reese or even Mottau.
i won't be surprised at all to see hillen put up 40 to 50 points somewhere
his size and defense was always his downside, but i think i would have brought him back one more year
by CanadianIsleslifer on Sep 17, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you just said it, though
Hillen’s a good player, but consider how many shots and goals the Isles surrendered last season. Some of that was the revolving door in the crease – but when that position stabilized they were still having trouble locking down offenses.
I’m not saying that Hillen should have been non-tendered, but if you’re trying to add to the blueline to improve in your end, and you have a half-dozen smallish puck-movers back there, it makes sense to lose one, and keep the stay-at-home types.
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LOL
Here’s a couple of mine:
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by TheMetalChick on Sep 16, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I can't believe
this isn’t green yet!
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Ugh...
This is not funny. I mean, yeah it is and we joke about how injury-prone the Islanders are, but holy hell this is my worst nightmare. First Rahk, now Katic, and we’re only in our first week of camp.
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by Fabtraption on Sep 16, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
thankfully both players who aren’t immediately important to the team. Katic was going to be a callup, and there’s no where for Rahk on the roster.
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You're right
Last year our sacrifices to the hockey gods were Mark Streit and Kyle Okposo. Apologies to Rhett and Mark, but maybe your injuries are for the good of the club…
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by Fabtraption on Sep 17, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd be lying...
If I said I didn’t have the same thought process.
Of course, then I remember the first line was almost completely unscathed last year. Injuries: They just happen.
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i don't see the reason to panic...
ok, so katic and rahk are out. now don’t get me wrong, the young guys from bridgeport play roles of importance, but really? we’re going to make an issue over this? c’mon guys. call me if someone really important goes down.
"son of a bitch i'm sick of these dolphins"
- Steve Zissou
it certainly fits the theory of small hockey players and injuries
but a none NHL issue, bad for the farm and development there…lost prob their top goal scorer and an experienced, but small, offensive D…they’ll have Dehaan and Donovan this year though, that should help BP…losing Rahk offense will be harder to make up for BP
by CanadianIsleslifer on Sep 17, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It's already starting.
The neverending injury parade to the backline is underway.
I can see it.
It’s imperative the GM signs every available guy in a uniform who can stand on skates while on a sheet of ice and hold a hockey stick at the same time.
Right now, before it’s too late.
Guess he is coming
DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
This could be out there. Steve Staios is on his way to the Islanders camp for a tryout. Good man. Still has more to give.
No Sleep 'til....
very interesting
looks like a decent player who has played on a bunch of crappy teams – not his fault, he’s been to the Finals with Edmonton
nice job Garth
Errr no. He's been a crappy player the last two years.
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Wishart
I for one really like this kid and have faith he can be a capable 2nd or 3rd pairing defenseman. I thought it was a great trade (and a ballsy one- normally trading a 41 year old journeyman goalie for a big, young defenseman with upside is a no- brainer but Garth was basically conceding the season when he traded for Wishart) and wasn’t aware there was dissenting opinion.
If you're referring to what I wrote...
…I think the dissent is more about whether Wishart can play a big role this year or not. I’m betting he can.
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by Dominik on Sep 16, 2011 10:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Streit
Assuming he can return to form, or relative form; I don’t think you can understate how important his return will be for the Islanders. That the team did what it did last year without Streit is IMO a testament to how far this team has come in the last three years.
by MatthewM11 on Sep 16, 2011 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed!
Big, big wild card, he.
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by Dominik on Sep 16, 2011 10:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I agree, my money is on streit staying healthy and returning to form
But another injury or a poor performance would create a big hole on defense
Dom
How much have you had to drink tonight? You seem to be having trouble spelling Matt Donovan’s name…
Matt Donvan – Left college early and got some valuable AHL experience down the stretch. Not a standout in the rookie games, but they were rookie games.
Aaron Ness – Like Donvoan, he got an AHL taste late last season. They’ll likely form a pairing in Bridgeport.
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Donvoan is the anglicized spelling of the Gaelic "Donovan" and Donvan is an acceptable variation
There’s a fair bit of leeway allowed with Irish surnames, as it’s assumed the writer is inebriated while trying to spell said name
by MatthewM11 on Sep 17, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Damn, that is some ugliness right there
I don’t now what to say. In a rush? Distracted? I think I’ll go with Matthew’s Gaelic explanation: Just bein’ true to his roots!
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Whats awesome is I had to read it three times to even see what was wrong with it
I just scored another Tuscan Dairy goal!
by Chris McNally on Sep 17, 2011 5:35 AM EDT up reply actions
If we are going to be graded on spelling, I'm never leaving another comment
All in favor of spell check on SBN raise your hand
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I wasn't going to say anything
except I realized you struggled specifically on Donovan’s name and I just thought that was funny.
I mean, you’re almost as bad as Pol Pot for that.
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by Fabtraption on Sep 17, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice ;)
As an Internet slam, isn’t Pol Pot underused?
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I figured Hitler was overused
Pol Pot really was definitely an underrated genocidist in the land of comparative insults.
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Brad May approves of Staios camp invite
maydayhockey Brad May
My buddy Steve Staios is going to camp with the NY Islanders. Hats off to Garth Snow, Steve will be a great influence on the young guys!
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We don't need..................
another smallish, 38 year old reject if we are going to make the play-offs. we already have Motteau and Eaton who are really bottom pairings on good teams and have let better players walk [Martinek] We have a surplus at forwards and should trade for a real top 2 D. Check the Defense of the teams we need to beat out to make a play-off run- Toronto, Montreal,NYR, NJD, Florida and we have a recuperating Streit,Amac, and Hamonic + Jurcina and Wishart [ who has potential] We cannot compete for the play-offs with this D infront of a questionable G. Our forwards are going to have to average more than 4 goals a game inorder to win. and that is not going to happen. Snow is not doing his job if he starts the season with this situation. The Habs have a much weaker and smaller offense, but a great D and better G. The analysts pict them to finish above us, guess what, stopping the puck is just as important as scoring.
why don't the isles just make mccabe a one year offer?
this is taking way too long.
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mccabe can still play...
maybe not like in his hayday, but he’s a smart dman with seasoned veteran experience to have. he also has upside when it comes to special teams…staios is ok. however, who says he’s gonna make the roster? he was only invited to training camp. no reason to get frisky.
"son of a bitch i'm sick of these dolphins"
- Steve Zissou
by gukid17 on Sep 18, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Katic news is terrible
maybe not for this years team but he’s a young, fast as hell d-man that plays very good positioning, who needs more strength and experience to truly show his prospect status.
bad deal for the isles worse deal for mark.
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