Report: Josh Bailey and Isles Agree
According to ESPN's Katie Strang, Josh Bailey and the Islanders have agreed to terms on a new contract: 2 years, $2.1 million.
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Boom, thought it would be this
Mentioned earlier in a JB thread it would either be one year one million or two year two million. Nostradamus in the house.
Now Bailey, earn your pay check and have a consistent 40 + point year and prove us all wrong on your talents.
So it was written
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by Dominik on Sep 16, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hmmm
How come we only hear about these quatrains of Nostradamus AFTER the event?
I blame da media
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by Dominik on Sep 16, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes...im on the home page...this is what happens when i have to pull an all nighter
loving the tears of fallen leaf fans...JT IS OURS
We thank you!
Now get back to work.
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eeehhhhh work is overrated
loving the tears of fallen leaf fans...JT IS OURS
by DarthDoyle on Sep 16, 2011 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hold up?
guessing Garth was offering longer contract then bailey wanted
My bet is the other way around, or at least something in between
Two years at this price means no give on the Islanders’ side. They probably held firm at that price.
So if Snow offered longer term, it was probably for this same (relatively) Nielsen/MacDonald discount price, whereas Bailey’s side would probably want a bigger premium to give up his arbitration years (which begin after this contract is up).
Bailey has to think he’ll be able to command more in arbitration; Snow has to think Bailey needs to show more on the ice before he can be rewarded for giving up arbitration.
Of course Meehan’s agency throws a wild card in everything. They represent so many players, and they seem to be trying to flex their muscles this summer.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Right, my limited understanding is this is basically similar money (actually a little bit more) then a qualifying offer for this year and then next year.
After that he’s eligible from arbitration right? and has to think his chances of significant salary increase are very good so what is holding out for? Okposo like deal? Bailey and his agent are smokin crack then.
On the other hand If Garth only offers a longer term discount contract with the stick of the Wang deadline….what do you do then.
I guess the last minute nature of the deal and Bailey quote about “not so confident about a deal anymore” was a little confusing
That's why I suspect the agency was trying to squeeze
Seemed to be a theme with all the 2008 RFAs this year. Maybe there’s something to them trying to wriggle big deals before the next CBA. And I figure this deal or something similar was on the table all summer long — for the same reasons you cite: Do well, then you score a “core” contract or in arbitration.
And yes, it’s more than his Q.O. (which would’ve been a minor raise to around $900k base) and yes it takes him up to his two arbitration-eligible RFA years (again, pending any changes in the next CBA).
I guess one thing we don’t know is what agents think might be the outcome of those 6th and 7th years of a career in the next CBA.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
two points
1. Didn’t know Strange went to ESPN and she needs a new photo. Looks like a junior girl (still unsure of herself)
2. Why the need for two years?
Excellent.
I know everyone around here seems to be down on Bailey but I think he’s a real talent and he’s going to break through this year. Then next year we can extend him for 4 or 5 yrs after he puts up 45 pts this year.
Not everyone around here is down
But it sure is a point of contention!
My money would be on him becoming a well-rounded NHL hockey player, and I still think the Islanders need to collect and retain as many of those as possible.
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I believe he will too
It’s a matter of “tenses”. Last year he “stunk”, this year he may stink, and in the future, he certainly will stink less. But when talking about a contract, you can only judge a player based on what they have done.
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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Comeau put up 46 points last year
and got a 1 year deal, and I may be in the minority here, but I think BC has more talent than Bailey
I just scored another Tuscan Dairy goal!
by Chris McNally on Sep 16, 2011 6:05 AM EDT up reply actions
BC is also like 4 years older
And has a lot more experience, when he was the age Bailey is now was he even in the NHL? I think bailey has loads more potential, i mean when he was good, we all saw how great hew was playing and what hes capable of. Comeau has always had good potential, but nothing extreme. The things Bailey was doing for the first several games of the season were incredible, BC has never impressed me like that
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by Zhora on Sep 16, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Haha youre entitled to your opinion
But you made me laugh with phrases like loads more potential and made my side hurt when you took it up a notch to extreme. Blake’s decision making is not the greatest but the guy goes end to end almost as good as anyone on the team and has a much better shot than Bailey. I have never once seen Bailey exhibit that type of offensive ability and I have seen 98% of the games in the Bailey era. Bailey has had a nice goal or two in his career but I’ve never seen him take over a shift. So extreme potential is way over the top. I realize Bailey is 4 years younger but I will eat my hat if Bailey EVER has a season better than 25 goals or 50 points, pretty much equivalent to what Comeau did last year. Actually I could probably see Bailey get a ‘Patrick Flatley, one time in his career’ max season solely as a result of the possible explosive offense the Isles are putting together, but definitely not because he has tons of potential.
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by Chris McNally on Sep 16, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
"He has a much better shot than bailey"
Maybe because hes a goalscorer and Bailey’s a playmaker?……
Never seen him take over a shift
You mean like this?
And outside of last March and this past season, when the hell has Blake Comeau impressed ANYONE. for one, your comparing a “power forward” to a playmaker, and one whos also 4 years older than the other with more OHL, AHL, and NHL experience. Apples and oranges. Were probably seeing Blake’s peak right now, Bailey is years away from his. besides, as far as we know last season was a fluke for Blake, considering itsh is only 20 goal year since his last year of juniors
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I am not and love this contract
this is a perfect contract for the team. I mean if he continues to develope and starts to score more it is a bargain. If he plays the good D like last season it is a fair contract, and if he falls off a little and the team feels he just isn’t fitting into whatthey need. It is a easily tradable contract
personally I hope to see him here at the end of this 2 years and then signed again.
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by Rickfansince76 on Sep 16, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Wonder if the Tavares deal broke the gridlock here.
Either:
1. “Take it or leave it. The train’s leaving the station, the boat’s leaving the dock and, oh, by the way, we will remember.”
or
2. JT signing the long term deal gave Bailey a sense that, this is a team that’s going places and the time to commit is now.
Gotta wonder though, if they’re giving Bailey 2 years and $2.1 mil, what does that mean for Frans, someone who actually accomplished something last season? (League leading 8 short handed goals, cemented himself as the team’s #2 center, monster on the PK, etc…)
Jeff Carter to Columbus? Wait, I've seen this one before, it was called Shanahan to Hartford. Advice? Don't buy a Carter jersey.
7, 8, whatever, point is, that was in the chaos of last year.
I’ve got him and Grabs pegged for the top of the league again this season and I think Grabs may make a run at the single season record (13).
Jeff Carter to Columbus? Wait, I've seen this one before, it was called Shanahan to Hartford. Advice? Don't buy a Carter jersey.
by BrassBonanza10 on Sep 16, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Very gratifying news - with a more stable core around him and this vote of confidence as it were,
I think Josh IS going to really flourish; too much pressure and the moving around, between Bridgeport and various positions in Uniondale, just made it very difficult for him to establish any kind of consistent game and I think the expectations placed on him were decidedly unfair, even a little hypocritical when compared to Kyle’s very similar travails as noted…..also, as has been remarked upon as well, Bails has one of the highest point totals of anyone in the three seasons he’s been here (which his agent may have used as leverage in getting this contract, in my estimation a very fair one…..)
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