This is the John Tavares Contract Extension You Were Looking For
by Dominik on Sep 14, 2011 5:02 PM EDT
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PrintWell, that erupted quickly.
From a Newsday report last night (riffed on by us here, in honor of the loveliest Toronto columnists) to a media advisory at mid-day today about a press conference Thursday at 1 p.m. EDT, to all your finest media and cheeses quickly digging up the numbers for all to enjoy: The New York Islanders are about to lock up John Tavares for a reported 6-year contract extension with an average annual value (cap hit) of $5.5 million per year.
The current collective bargaining agreement expires before next season, so take all these conclusions with a dash of salt, but under current rules this means the contract would take Tavares through the rest of his RFA period and include two would-be unrestricted free agency years. (That said, the CBA rules could change next summer.)
Also pertinent for those less familiar with how these things work: Tavares' cap hit for the upcoming 2011-12 season, the third and final season of his Entry Level Contract, remains the same, $3.75 million (including bonuses). Any extension would affect the cap in 2012-13 -- and thus not address any floor worries you currently harbor.
Darren Dreger at TSN has the sequence of salaries at: $4mil, $5 mil, $6 mil, $6 mil,$6 mil, $6 mil.
If the reports are accurate, that would be $33 million overall, and line it up like so:
2012-13: $4 million
2013-14: $5 million
2014-15: $6 million
2015-16: $6 million
2016-17: $6 million
2017-18: $6 million
This follows reason (those first two are RFA years, the next two are arbitration-eligible RFA years), as well as the escalating pattern of the five-year extensions Kyle Okposo and Michael Grabner signed earlier this year (each of which takes effect for the upcoming season, which means Tavares is locked up for two years longer than those two forwards).
In the long view, Tavares will join Okposo, Grabner and Rick DiPietro as the only Islanders signed past 2013-14 thus far, although they'll have a host of young players coming up for renewals around that time.
Despite the efforts of columnists north of the border, Tavares never acted like he wanted to be anywhere but with the Isles. I never expected an extension would be problematic, but this seems smoother than even my greatest expectations. Islanders fans, safe to say this is the contract you were looking for.
So you can celebrate now -- or, officially, Thursday afternoon -- and buy your Tavares jersey if you haven't already. (Note: The Nielsen get-up I bought from shop.nhl.com was poorly done and the nameplate fell off within weeks.)
But What about the Building?
Yeah, what about the building? The Islanders lease on Nassau [gloriously unsponsored] Veterans Memorial Coliseum expires in 2015. An Aug. 1 referendum to replace it was rejected. They've got a few years for ultimatums or to find alternatives.
One has to suspect Tavares, Garth Snow and Charles Wang have had conversations about backup plans that won't be shared with the public until it's strategic to do so. But beyond that, you have to think Tavares is like Okposo and other young teammates in really enjoying the core the club is putting together.
Brian Compton of nhl.com today said Tavares told him this last week:
"I know Charles is going to make every attempt to keep the team here. We believe it'll work out. We're not sweating over it."
[UPDATE: Check this Yahoo! story for pretty much every single quote you ever wanted to hear from Tavares about the Islanders and Long Island. Seriously.]
That's actually similar to my outlook as an Islanders follower: The venue madness is beyond my control. For now I'll just enjoy what's happening on the ice.
But about that on the ice ... Josh Bailey*, Frans Nielsen. Got next?
*Speaking of RFAs in Bailey's class, Dreger has Zach Bogosian signed for two years, $5 million.
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Here’s how I’m doing the math:
Last year, Hawerchuk said RFA’s get about 40% more than open-market UFAs.
So I’m thinking of this as four years at 4.85M and two years at 6.8M — that adds up to $33M and has a 40% premium for the UFA years. And then I’m asking myself: would he get 6.8M if he were an open-market UFA?
Well, Brad Richards got 6.7M as a ~25-goal, ~50-assist guy who is past his prime. So 6.8M seems like a bargain for a ~30-goal, ~40-assist guy who is still on the rise.
Looks to me like the team got a below-market deal in return for the security that the long-term deal provides. Good deal for both sides.
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by Eric T. on Sep 14, 2011 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
And about the way it should work, the way I figure it
Not to go all “loyalty!!” on what is a business, but there is some comfort and convenience in staying put and growing with your team, and there is some real risk in just going to the team that went above budget to get you.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Agreed
Though I think the discount is more about the player buying insurance against catastrophic injury or CBA change than about avoiding the hassle of moving, I agree that it’s natural for there to be a discount for a long-term extension.
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Definitely, security is the trade-off
Although I file it in the comfort/convenience drawer.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Where does this put us for the Cap this year?
Pr*j*ct**ns lead to long term injuries, just ask the asian guy from Inception
Doesn’t affect it this year; the new deal is an extension and doesn’t go into effect until the current deal runs out.
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Writer at Broad Street Hockey
That is awesome
Pr*j*ct**ns lead to long term injuries, just ask the asian guy from Inception
I am docking you 1 reading comprehension point
Also pertinent for those less familiar with how these things work: Tavares’ cap hit for the upcoming 2011-12 season, the third and final season of his Entry Level Contract, remains the same, $3.75 million (including bonuses). Any extension would affect the cap in 2012-13
…but then I guess I have to dock myself one “write it clear and concise or don’t bother” point.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
come on dom
you know nobody reads that crap
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
by JPinVA on Sep 14, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Seconded!
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Right before the season
This is awesome. We are going to a force in the NHL.
All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.
Easy Big Fella
Let’s wait and see how the season plays out. We have been happy coming into a season before, and then injuries and the rest happens. Good to be optimistic, but let’s see how things go. We have a couple of new faces on forwards, and guys coming back from injuries and surgery, and then goaltending. Sorry to pull us back to earth and reality….
by Isles in NC on Sep 15, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
One more thing
I find it funny that the Islanders have not spread the good news on their website yet.
All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.
All the paperwork might not be done
Burke is going to sweep in at the last minute and run off with him
I 'spect they're building a 24-hour buzz
Deal isn’t certified yet, but regardless: The media advisory went out today at mid-day. Reporters were on the scent after Newsday’s piece last night. Leaking beforehand allows you to get two days of coverage on it — once now, and once when they officially announce it, with the conference for reporters to talk to Snow and JT.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
HOLY SHeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Never saw that coming. Way to go Garth and Chuck. Now, Bailey just sign the offer and Frans is next. Let go Isles.
Kudos to Charles Wang
Charles has slowly but surely built a family atmosphere in that room with this organization.
Players across the league cannot ignore this signing. This is the greatest signal sender to the rest of the league on the status and future of this franchise.
Charles Wang has come a long way as Owner of this team
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by FB4Real on Sep 14, 2011 5:30 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
He has worked so hard
So many players who have played for the Islanders call it one of the best atmospheres of an NHL team. There definitely is a family idea that the organization is built off of. It most certainly shows. Now that JT has an extension, perhaps a new arena will be arranged sooner rather than later.
All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.
i dont think the signing will affect arena that much
The arena is controlled by higher powers.
But I do think that JT is the best thing to happen to the NYI in 20 years.
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"Past performance Is Not A Guarantee For Future Results"
"Listening is a Skill" -Jack Capuano
Charles Wang gets the worst rep for no reason
Even his bad decisions were made with good intentions.
He rescued the team in 2000, presumably without ever having seen a hockey game.
His best course of action at that time was to trust the hockey guys in there (Milbury).
He allowed Milbury to spend money to make the team good again (Yashin, Aucoin, Hamrlik, the Peca trade). Wang didn’t negotiate Yashin’s contract, he trusted his hockey guy.
The DP contract was an attempt to show stability and commitment. It was misguided, but the intentions were clear.
His 2006 group think front office was an attempt to take more control over what was happening by relating his business experience to sports. It quickly fell apart, but again, he was doing what he thought was best.
Finally he hired Garth Snow, which seemed like a joke at the time, but could be the best decision he ever made. He’s kept his hands off, and has only offered support for Garth while the Isles went thru some difficult rebuilding seasons.
Now, the time is coming when some of the jewels from the rebuild need to be signed. We all wondered if Wang would step. And he has. In a BIG way. Okposo, Grabs, Tavares, Moulson, PAP. If you earned it, you’ll be rewarded.
Wang has turned the entire atmosphere of the team around, treating the players like family, and being as supportive of them as possible. He realizes the best way to get your players playing to their talent level is to make sure they’re happy. Make sure they’ll run through a wall for you.
Wang has done that with these young Islanders, and I couldn’t be happier with him.
"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington
by Pauly C on Sep 15, 2011 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Burke
Pr*j*ct**ns lead to long term injuries, just ask the asian guy from Inception
by ArsenalLI on Sep 14, 2011 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 14 recs
Classic!!!!!
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Sep 14, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Perfect
Quick question: what typeface is that? I’ve meant to find out for a while. Thanks.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent Paul Kraus.
It's called Impact
AKA the lolcat font. But “Impact” is the actual given name of the typeface.
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Thanks, guys.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent Paul Kraus.
I love that Impact is now better known for its LOL uses
Than for any other purpose. LOLcats forced Impact into purgatory.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
To Mr. Burke (in my best Nelson voice)...
HA HA!!!!
Isles rule, rangers suck... that's just how it is.
About that Tavares Jersey
Can’t wait to pick mine up at the new Isles store in the Coliseum on opening night.
Excellent Extension!
Damn, nice cap hit for 6 years, no stupid dollar amounts or contract length. Excellent job Garth and Charles!
I think JT broke twitter
Is anyone else having a problem? Nothings worked in like an hour. I want more news dammit!
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 14, 2011 6:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
+∞
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Sep 14, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Show-off! ;-)
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Sep 15, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
More JT quotes on L.I., the Isles, Snow, Wang, teammates
I’ve added this link to the post, but everyone should read this Yahoo story, since it has pretty much everything you’d ever want to hear JT say about the club and the area.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Love the Line at the very end....
It’s all about believing in potential and the willingness to commit
That is the big word with the Isles now….Commitment.
I think Charles has a reputation amongst the guys that play or played for him that he is a man of his word and they respect that tremendously.
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I am so excited about this team
Now all’s I need is my life size Tavares poster, a box of tissues and some lotion…
by Empire39 on Sep 14, 2011 6:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Charles Wang
the best owner of any sports franchise in NY
(the Giants don’t count – they play in Jersey…)
by Cary K on Sep 14, 2011 6:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Charles is a good owner
But he’s not a superstar owner. Me on the other hand…
Proud to root for the Jets, Mets, and Islanders!!!
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by CharlieIsles on Sep 15, 2011 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Awwwwwwww.....Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhh....
“Right about now, Brian Burke, you must be askin’ yoself: ‘Charles and Garth, WHERE did you get, 6 years- and $33 million dollas- worth of Prime Taveres?’…”
“Shhhhh…don’t worry yo pretty little head about it, heheh…”
“Not yo concern!”
Staying on The State theme…
My reaction to Tavares’ extension?
“I WANNA DIP MY BALLS IN IT!”
The minute he actually SIGNS it, I’ll be bringing out “Celebrity Jeopardy” Sean Connery…
Jeff Carter to Columbus? Wait, I've seen this one before, it was called Shanahan to Hartford. Advice? Don't buy a Carter jersey.
by BrassBonanza10 on Sep 14, 2011 6:43 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
My name is Burke, solomente Burke and I’m out of heeeeeerrrre.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Sep 14, 2011 6:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Mr. Bouche, come on in here and get a shot of Mr. Tavares....
We had the 6 years,
We had to have Tavares…..
Now we coulda bought 5 years of Tavares –
And that would have been a lot of Tavares.
But we had to go all the way, baby….
All the way home…..
With 6 years….
@ 5.5M
Of John Tavares….
Of John Tavares….
by Les Beaver on Sep 14, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Awwwwwwww.....Yeaaaaaah....
Rec’d like The Last Supper upon Louie’s arrival!
Jeff Carter to Columbus? Wait, I've seen this one before, it was called Shanahan to Hartford. Advice? Don't buy a Carter jersey.
by BrassBonanza10 on Sep 14, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
Memories.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Rec'd like Doug's date!
Jeff Carter to Columbus? Wait, I've seen this one before, it was called Shanahan to Hartford. Advice? Don't buy a Carter jersey.
by BrassBonanza10 on Sep 15, 2011 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions
If it's gonna be that kind of party
where the mashed potatoes?
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 14, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Or the baba ganoosh.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Sep 14, 2011 7:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The State reference!!!!
Rec’d like the hopes and dreams of the city of Toronto (for seven years, or so….)
by Les Beaver on Sep 14, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I sure hope Nassau pulls its head out of it's five-hole...
… or someone else is getting an awesome hockey team.
I already have my opening night tix. There’s only a few seats remaining, if you’re interested in showing up. By the way, Ticketmaster might suck big fat hairy hockey sticks, but their new way to find seats at a game isn’t all that bad. Select a price range, click on a section, and then click on which seats you prefer. Nice to know my 20-ish percent surcharge is going towards more than performing the entire Kama Sutra on me.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Sep 14, 2011 6:50 PM EDT reply actions
Let's get Josh done
and play some hockeeehhhh
Thou shalt not recognize false enemies, they are the Rangers, you shall have no other enemies before them.
is he yawning there?
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Sep 14, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Show us the talent, then we'll talk money.
Grabs showed us the goods, Grabs got paid.
Moulson showed us the goods, Moulson got paid.
Frans showed us the goods, Frans will soon be paid.
Tavares showed us the goods, the gold, the fine china, the rich Corinthian leather interior and naked pictures of Cindy Crawford and he’s getting paid A LOT.
No more of this money for nothin’ crap. Glass Ricky’s the last time that’s gonna happen.
Jeff Carter to Columbus? Wait, I've seen this one before, it was called Shanahan to Hartford. Advice? Don't buy a Carter jersey.
by BrassBonanza10 on Sep 15, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
But I LOVE Money for Nothing
That John Tavares got his own long-term deal!
That John Tavares, he’s a millionaire!
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Sep 15, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I gotta rec that microwave oven!
I…want ….my…star….J….T…….
Jeff Carter to Columbus? Wait, I've seen this one before, it was called Shanahan to Hartford. Advice? Don't buy a Carter jersey.
by BrassBonanza10 on Sep 15, 2011 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I'm pretty sure it wasn't Cindy Crawford...
… but rather Scarlet Johanson. It can’t be a coincidence that both the pictures and news of his contract came out the same day.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Sep 15, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You may be on to something there...
Jeff Carter to Columbus? Wait, I've seen this one before, it was called Shanahan to Hartford. Advice? Don't buy a Carter jersey.
by BrassBonanza10 on Sep 16, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
and Frans
Thou shalt not recognize false enemies, they are the Rangers, you shall have no other enemies before them.
If there were emoticons
I’d use the dancing banana.
by 19InARow on Sep 14, 2011 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Greg Wyshynski says they will announce his captaincy as well tomorrow
I think it should be Streit…I hope they dont do that to JT yet
Get Frans extended for 3-4 years now.
Please.
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by garik16 on Sep 14, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I predict Frans will be re-signed around Christmas time
Happy holidays to us, from John Tavares Claus.
maybe they're looking to see if Cizikas can be Frans-type and do it cheaper?
I’d obviously rather keep Frans but we’re in a salary cap world here. Can’t pay everyone. Just throwing an idea out there.
"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington
So "living", PaulyC. You're not a fan of it, I take it?
by Les Beaver on Sep 15, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ha!
But yeah, I hear that cap space isn’t exactly tight with this team.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Sep 15, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
But they're getting there. I think I saw they have $30M set up for 5 years down the road?
That’s a lot more then they’re used to. And a bunch of RFAs coming up in the next few years.
Also, I have to commend PaulyC’s quote from Ron Bennington. I say that, probably, 10 times a day. Love it.
haha thanks Les - Ronnie B is my hero
I also like how you critiqued me, then ended with a positive sentiment. I feel like I’m in an annual performance review at work.
"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington
OK, great.
So I think we both agree you’re doing a great job posting here. There’s certainly some gaps that can use some focus, I don’t think we disagree on that point. So, um, let’s put the proper focus into those areas, and keep doing great those things we agree on that you are doing great, and if you can do them even greater, that’d be great. Great job. Great speaking with you, thanks for coming in.
by Les Beaver on Sep 15, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The important thing here
Isn’t whether you’re performing well. It’s whether you’re performing in a way that makes me look good to the higher ups.
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This is a good deal
For a player just a tier below Ovie, Sid, and Malkin, $6 mil is a steal, I think. It’s not even Wade Redden money =) Seriously, look at $6m deals around the league. Bravo, all.
Perhaps it’s time to say Charles makes good long-term deals…or at least has learned from there. There was a time when $4.5m for an all-star goalie was a bargain, too…
This is fantastic
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I was skeptical John Tavares would re-up with the Isles, but give Garth Snow credit– he’s locked up his core with solid deals.
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@felixpotvin I’m not saying Burke would have, but I do think he hoped Tavares might force a move out of LI and have a hometown advantage.
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 14, 2011 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Toronto hometown advantage
If this really existed, half the league would play for the Leafs. And LeBron would have stayed with the Cavaliers.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent Paul Kraus.
But LeBron is a loser
Mr. Met said so on Facebook last summer, then the unofficial Mr. Met was kicked off of Facebook the next day.
Back to the topic at hand, excited to hear Tavares is re-signing long term. It definitely put me in a good mood when I read about it earlier today.
Next step will be for the Isles to get Bailey signed, which I really think will happen sooner rather than later, possibly in the next couple of days. I think Bailey knows that he needs to get a contract signed soon, which may be why he came to Long Island early for skating.
Hometown advantage...
What these dipshits dont understand is that, when it comes to hockey, THIS is his hometwon now! :)
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Sep 14, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Obviously ....
a good deal for the player and good deal for us, for as long as the player is here.
I wish I could take his signing for 6 years as some kind of hint of an impending arena deal, but really it isn’t that at all. For a few reasons.
Still, I’m glad we get to watch this kid continue to blossom for a couple of years at least, and I think he’s gonna be even better now than I thought 2 years ago
Sweet
But what are the Toronto tabloids gonna write about fir the next seven years???
by Torch7 on Sep 14, 2011 8:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Headline: June 16, 2012
Tavares Foolishly Wins Stanley Cup
Uniondale (TSN) – John Tavares wasted a chance to make history.
The New York Islanders stunned the hockey world by winning their team’s first championship since 1983, with John Tavares wasting a hat trick in the clinching game. Most observers agreed that Tavares squandered a rare opportunity by becoming a league champion on Long Island instead of in Toronto. “This is nothing more than a year that Tavares will never get back,” wrote Damian Cox. “Now he’ll never be able to say that he brought home Toronto’s first championship in 45 years.”
Tavares, who was named the Conn Smythe Award winner for the most valuable player in the playoffs, was too disoriented by delirious fans and ecstatic teammates to really appreciate the magnitude of his error. “I feel freakin’ awesome!” he shouted in the midst of the locker room celebration, showing no sign of remorse. However, he admitted that many people had called and texted him with condolences. "Yeah, it was crazy. Wendel Clark sent me one of those “SOON” pictures from the Internet. But some guys were cool about it. Mats Sundin and Tomas Kaberle even said they’d buy me dinner."
“Young players have a learning curve in this league,” Brian Burke said in a prepared statement. “We’re confident that John will learn from this heartbreaking victory and carry those lessons on to the Maple Leafs organization.”
As a bonus for his Conn Smythe Award, Tavares’ contract calls for Doug Weight to make him an extra plate of cookies each week, and two bedtime stories instead of one.
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by mikb on Sep 15, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 20 recs
this is too good
it’s being wasted as a comment
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by Mark D on Sep 15, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Awesome!
Get this into its own post in the Zeitgeist section of the site.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Sep 15, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't rec this enough
It’s Onion-worthy. Awesome.
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by PGI on Sep 15, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
:::blushing:::
Y’all are too kind. Thanks!
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John-Ta Va-Res
clap clap, clap clap clap
John-Ta Va-Res
clap clap, clap clap clap
by Cary K on Sep 14, 2011 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
PS
It’s only a freaking 1 hour flight to Toronto
and the Leafs are screwed up – who wants to play for the Pension Plan Puppets?
Suffering from withdrawal already
I wish there was another rookie game on tonight or something
last night was sweet
Saw capuano, morrow, weight, allen, etc. all seated center ice, bench side, in the upper bowl. Claude Julien and co in a box suite, Gillies and Martin in the concourse, and got to meet Garth as he tried to sneak through an empty concourse towards the end of the game…very big dude
I need to detox now myself.
and in regards to J.T, I can see is that stupid look on Burke’s face when he caught wind of it… and not just his own wind
Sometimes your the dog, sometimes your the hydrant
Burke
Not to defend Burke, but it hasn’t been him saying JT is gonna go to TO the past 3 years. All he really did was say before the draft that he wanted to try and move up to get him. After he couldn’t move up, he’s never mentioned it again. It was just the dumb TO tabloids.
Patiently waiting to receive and open tryout invitation to camp.
by The Fitz on Sep 15, 2011 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Islanders offseason
Thanks Garth, you couldn't even get us a top 4 D?
Anybody who thinks the Islanders had a bad offseason seriously needs to re-evaluate. Locking up your own free agents is just as important as signing UFA’s.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
by Fabtraption on Sep 14, 2011 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Yep
he’s got our top 3 goal scorers for 3 more years at least, KO, Amac and Hamonic locked in. Can’t beat that.
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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Taveres' signing also means (hopefully) the end of stories about. how the Islanders...
1. Are only concerned with hovering around the salary cap floor.
2. Can’t keep any players.
3. Only give out terrible infinite-term contracts.
4. Are simply biding their time until they shuffle off to parts unknown.
5. Are still the same franchise of Milbury or Spano or the Milsteins or Kirk Muller or .
Thank you, Garth, Charles and JT. I haven’t been this pumped for a season in years.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent Paul Kraus.
by PGI on Sep 14, 2011 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
In 2017-18
we have JT in his prime, and the rangers have 37 year old third line grinder Brad Richards, oh and the Maple Leafs still wont have JT. This is a good day!
by CraigConway on Sep 14, 2011 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Just a thought....
if Garth is going to announce a Captain tomorrow…. I would hope to see Streit sitting with the management staff during the press release. I have nothing but pure man love for JT, but my heart wants Streit as our “C”
Sometimes your the dog, sometimes your the hydrant
by risenrule on Sep 14, 2011 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Halle-frickin-lujah!
I’m late to post, but I can’t be happier. More core locked up, more swagger for the Isles!
Hopefully the Isles don’t use this JT presser to also introduce the third jerseys, and have Yashin on the dais for some curious reason. Give JT his spotlight, please!
I’d rather they not give him the C now—job # 1 should be playoffs, not assuming the C mantle and all that means (for now). No doubt he’s being groomed but no need to rush this like Sid and Toews. Potvin didn’t get it til his 7th season.
by brother_rat on Sep 14, 2011 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
so the way the rest of the league sees it
1. Tavares is signed then traded for future picks to TO.
2. Yashin is resigned to a similar deal and is named captain
3. They also announce they are moving to Quebec.
Snap.
Awesome deal, lets unload the clips onto the opponents now.
to describe my excitement...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFLUOQq2j30
change “barbara streisand” to “john tavares” (or any one else when they score a goal).
FYI: this really should be the isles goal song.
"son of a bitch i'm sick of these dolphins"
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by gukid17 on Sep 14, 2011 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Nice
That’s the only time I ever want to associate Streisand and Tavares with one another.
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Christimas in September
just elated… remember my days of opening up my n64 when I was a little kid on Christmas.. and feeling about as happy as I do with each passing pro-Long Island/Islander Tavares quote
by BaltimoreIslander on Sep 14, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
I am going with streit based on his Isles Article on the main page
Everyone on the team realizes what his presence means to this club, not only as contributing player, but as a true leader. Its as if he stepped on the ice and all the players turned their heads knowing heir streit was back ready to man that point and blast pucks away, while leading the team out of their own zone.
He really encompasses all that is a leader and would make a great stop gap till one of the youngins proves in few years that they are ready to take the reigns. Let them play and have the As.
Well there is the timing
After all, they just could have chanced upon the topic during coffee breaks from negotiations…
Wow…big 4…the best show of my life…and jt gets locked up…amazing day!
Now let’s lock up franzy and trade jb for a dman!
by mdesarmo on Sep 14, 2011 11:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Went over to Pension Plan Puppets to see their thoughts
There is some gold here
In reaction to news of Tavares deal:
But how is Burke going to get Tavares now????
Response:
The same way LA got richards
There’s also a few obligatory cheap shots about us not staying in NY:
I’m more concerned about the instability of the team. If I don’t know whether the Islanders are going to be in Quebec or Las Vegas or Medicine Hat or something in two years, I don’t know if I want to sign for six.
Pr*j*ct**ns lead to long term injuries, just ask the asian guy from Inception
CLAP! CLAP! CLAP!
Nothing else to be said except……………….DROP THE PUCK!
The roof the roof the roof is on fire
The roof the roof the roof is on fire
The roof the roof the roof is on fire
We don't need no water let Nassau County burn
Burn motherf******s burn
This cap hit is less than the Erhoff offer, no?
Hoping this signing makes it easier for Garth to lure at top 4 FA D-man next July if he doesn’t trade for one first.
No, Ehrhoff's 3 is lower
because it is a 10 year deal with the last 3 or 4 being 1 mil. 10 yrs 40 mil, 6 yrs 33 mil avg= 4 mil Ehrhoff/ 5.5 Tavares.
Big reason, Snow didn’t circumvent the cap. Look for Ehrhoff to be bought out in yrs 7-10.
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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Me, I'm having a weird reaction to all this - probably for more reasons than one.....
…..while I’m extremely grateful for all this good fortune, there’s just a part of me that’s both overwhelmed and maybe a bit cynical, like ‘oh damn, I just woke up! It was all just a dream…..’ Once the puck has dropped again on a new season proper and we’re winning like I know we’ll be, THAT’s when I’ll be able to revel more…..JT’s signing following on the heels of a showcase such as last night’s, it’s just too much for me to fully absorb right now after almost 2 decades of being severely TEASED!
So this leads to my greatest moment on twitter so far:
I guess in Snow Wang we trust!
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by Mark D on Sep 15, 2011 1:38 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
beautiful
I think BD, like many “impartial” media sorts, might be secretly sad that the days of endless contracts are behind the Islanders. You can see the wheels slowwwwly turning – smart deals mean cap space to sign other smart deals and afford an entire team of great players. Unpossible!
It’s a GM! We caught a GM! Burrrrrrn him!
Wait. How do you KNOW he’s a GM?
Well…. he’s dressed like a GM!
Garth: THEY dressed me this way.
Well… we did do the jacket. And the pants.
Garth: This isn’t even my real tie – it’s a clip-on.
But he’s a GM! He even put me on injured reserve!
…
…I got better…
But there are WAYS of telling a GM.
? ? ?
What do you do with GMs?
BURRRRRRN THEM!!!
And what else burns?
Uhhhh…. Old… arenas?
Goooooood.
Build a coliseum out of ‘im!
But, do you not also build a coliseum out of stone?
Not around here.
Ohhhh. Right. Well, GMs also sign players to contracts.
? ? ?
RDP: Like ME!
YES! Precisely. And to sign a man to a contract, you have to have cap space.
Ahhhhhh.
So, has he signed anyone else to a contract?
Yes. YES! Those guys over there. They all got contracts!
…
So… if those guys are signed to contracts… then… he has salary cap space.
And?
…and if he still has cap space, he can sign other people to contracts… A GM!!!!!
JT: Well, it’s done. Six years, $33 million. Glad to be an Islander! Uh – wait, what’s this?
BURRRRRRN HIMMMMMMM!!!!!!
Garth: Well, that’s a fair cop.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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10 yrs ago, we traded out future for Peca and Yashin. Although Peca was always a “what could have been”…Yashin was a “what should have been.”
Maybe even though it took 10 yrs, things are in place. They are finaly going right. Maybe this is God’s way of apologizing after the cruel joke he played with us involving DP.
We gave away chara, bertuzzi, McCabe, and Palffy too soon. Now we held on to Grabs, Molson, Okie, And JT. Fransy is next. We’ve finaly gotten out of the milbury crap. Let Garth do his thing.
by mdesarmo on Sep 15, 2011 2:13 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Mr. Connery, do you have anything to add?
Jeff Carter to Columbus? Wait, I've seen this one before, it was called Shanahan to Hartford. Advice? Don't buy a Carter jersey.
by BrassBonanza10 on Sep 15, 2011 3:01 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
I missed this but, if you havent seen it
The Islanders have also begun contract extension talks with Frans Nielsen , who would become a coveted unrestricted free agent next July 1 after his contract expires.
from Staple
by ghalbart on Sep 15, 2011 6:32 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
About freaking time.
STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Sep 15, 2011 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions
many would die if Frans was displeased
And they would be the lucky ones…
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Sep 15, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so nice to have a teaam for the next 5 years
Finally we have a group of guys we can count on for awhile. It is so awesome to know that JT will be here with the others
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
7 years of JT is incredibly exciting...
and when was the last time we had so many important players locked up for so long.
Oddly, none of them are retained deep into their UFA periods… so it could collapse a lot sooner than it was built. They really need to build a Stanley Cup contender over the next three years, and keep the development process going.
That being said, if the secondary part of this thread is true (they are going to announce JT’s captaincy)… too much, too soon. I would have much rather seen Streit, or even Frans get the job… and let the kids become men. But that is minor against getting JT to COMMIT a few years of his UFA period.
Great job Garth.
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
HOORAY
for Long Island! HOORAY for US!
DROP THE PUCK, BABY!
Proud to root for the Jets, Mets, and Islanders!!!
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Hopefully we'll be able
to use this a lot.
by afrosupreme on Sep 15, 2011 10:23 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
hahahahaha rec'd
Garth should just have this projected on a giant white board behind him every time he has a press conference. “Let me address the recent criticism of my latest decision.”
Then he should hold the mic at arm’s length for a second, drop it, and strut away from the podium.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Sep 15, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes x Many high numbers.
And then break into that “I’m the head of the motha f’ing state, n%$#@” song.
nicccce
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Sep 16, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.
The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.
1980-81
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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.
Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.
1981-82
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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.
A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.
1982-83
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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.
Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.
