Isles News: A John Tavares Contract Would Give Toronto Columnists Nothing to Troll About
by Dominik on Sep 14, 2011 6:30 AM EDT
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Print[**UPDATE: The Islanders will make an announcement "about Tavares' future" at 1 p.m. Thursday. One can assume he won't be leaving hockey to enter the clergy.
[**UPDATE 2: Bob McKenzie, Arthur Staple, Katie Strang and your Uncle Al report it's 6 years, $5.5 million average salary.]
To tell you the truth, I don't know how often Toronto-oriented columnists (not to be confused with beatwriters) still waft the fumes of "John Tavares should be a Maple Leaf" and "JT wants out" anymore. I never read them much anyway, but they happened often enough to become an assumed joke around here.
A tacit partnership between big-talking GM Brian Burke and the tabloid media helps both sell papers and stoke Leafs fan buzz by openly coveting Tavares as far back as his draft year. (Alright, it even pre-dates that year...and Burke.)
So, not that a(nother) dose of reality discourages the determined troll -- hey, some of these guys have PHWA cards! -- but Arthur Staple's report in Newsday about negotiations on a long-term deal for Tavares must be a blow to the TMZ equivalents in our beloved hockey world.
"Once this [contract] is done, it'll finally show people that this is where I want to be," Tavares told Newsday. If only blatant evidence were enough for these people.
Regardless, read Staple's report for more details. Clearly Tavares would prefer a deal done so that it doesn't hang over the season and feed the trolls. But no doubt his agent and GM Garth Snow will tread purposefully. Neither of those two offered comment. While this is a good sign (who wouldn't love to remove that potential distraction?), that doesn't mean it must be done before October. But it would be nice.
Islanders Links
- Last night's game: Our recap | Our in-game thread | The official site recap | Kirk Luedeke (NEHJ) | NESN
- Do you believe this? Bryan Trottier is the front man (not the money man) for a late-entering group interested in buying the Blues. Connections between the two franchises go back to Al Arbour, and I could give you about 100 more.
- More on the Trent Hunter Kings tryout at OC Register. If healthy, I think he could help any team in a bottom line role. But I fear for that knee and the whole "it takes a year for a knee to truly be 100%" thing. Best of luck.
- Hockey1919 FanShot'd this, but it may be food for deeper exploration later: Friedman with a brief on Tavares working on technical aspects of his skating and shot over the summer. JT is a perfectionist, so the results could be fun.
- Friedman's link also discusses RFA's and briefly mentions Josh Bailey. Of course the big, curious RFAs are the three defensemen from Bailey's draft class.
- More on Ken Morrow being honored by Bowling Green.
- An Islanders training camp preview from SBN-NY.
- Chris Botta offered a four-pack of preview interviews (disclosure: I was going to be one, but we crossed wires) and dropped the announcement that he'd be moving on from Point Blank. I know people have conflicting views on this, but no one can deny he provided a mountain of info and food for thought in his years doing PB -- including, for those who remember, during his blogging during his final season as PR head.
- FanPost discussions 'round here: Is this a make-or-break year for Josh Bailey? And does Garth Snow have a preseason move up his sleeve? Finally, some notes and observations about NHL 12 and the Islanders.
- NEW: TSN's Bob McKenzie on various pending extensions, including Tyler Meyers and Tavares.
- NEW: NY Post with a great piece on Rick DiPietro's comeback, episode I-can't-count-that-high.
- NEW: Brian Compton reports Tavares said last week: "I know Charles is going to make every attempt to keep the team here. We believe it'll work out. We're not sweating over it.
'Hockey for Me Is a Passion' Links
- The Philadelphia Flyers obviously hate fun. (They're restricting Tweets.)
- No really -- the Flyers hate fun. (Just two promo giveaways this season.)
- How small is Winnipeg? Well, it's not exactly Saskatoon (where the Blues almost moved in 1983 before the league blocked it). But it is small enough that the new Jets players can't find real estate to fit their certain "zest for living." (/Caddyshack)
- Good Puck Daddy blogs from the Bulis guy lately. This one's on the awful linemates Jarome Iginla's had despite piling up points year after year.
- If you find Battle of California vulgar then don't click this link [language and such]. But me, well I've been waiting for RudyKelly to write this post for years: The Mind of a Goaltender.
- The Oilers wouldn't, like, be reluctant to report a concussion would they?
- So the Blue Jackets still have a major wild card in Steve Mason. I'm not buying stock in him.
Post-Game Videos
Ryan Strome, still talking faster than a Grabner:
Anders NIlsson flashes the English skillz:
Jack Capuano liked how the Isles applied the lessons they went over in video. Also liked the camaraderie and Nilsson, naturally. Again avoided picking out individual evals on the prospects, which is probably smart.
He did say he liked Nino Niederreiter's game: "As a coach we're [watching out] for things they can maybe get away with in this game that they can't" against better competition.
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Why is it necessary
in a nice piece about the positive future with John Tavares, to stick that last paragaph in about a Training Camp invite to Yashin? Is he just trying to poke nus with that sharp pointy stick?
STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Sep 14, 2011 7:23 AM EDT reply actions
Get er done, Garth & Charles
What can you say…..on paper, the organization seems to be following a well thought out plan. You can’t ask for anything else.
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You have a great eye to catch this article…..Here is the link:
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/13238/khl201112_season_preview/
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http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/kirill_petrov
The 2012 season could get really interesting.
Or
He could be another Zherdev/Filatov/Tikhnov type whose game just doesn’t translate to North America. Lets see him A) Hold down a regular place on Kazan’s team and B) Signing a contract to play for the Isles before we discuss whether or not he can be useful.
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by David Hanssen on Sep 14, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Staples reporting has been night & day compared to Strange, so far...
JT is sure adamant about staying an Islander…He doesnt understand why anyone would even think he doesnt…Its unfathomable to him…Isles fans should be happy to hear this….I sure am…
I am too, bro.
I mean like most, I never thought he was leaving, but it’s nice to hear him say it. And Milbury ain’t even here to trade him for a bag of sticks and a shoe.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Sep 14, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely
He’s always been very public and upfront about his commitment to the Isles and his squad, but he is so professional and polished that I’ve always had a (very, very) small worry that he was just doing the right thing and saying the right words for the team and the fans. Not that he’d be insincere, but that he’d hedge and maybe hit free agency before exploring other options, not just Toronto.
Seeing that a sizable, multiyear extension may be close to being finalized just gives me more respect for the guy and his commitment. And it validates our positive, optimistic take about our young team. Just fantastic news.
by brother_rat on Sep 14, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
That to me is the most impressive part
The other guys signed before the areener reefer. He’ll be doing it with things up in the air.
Although I imagine there are conversations between Snow and Wang and JT about what the backup plans are. (Plus, he’s got to be vested in the teammates he’s growing up with.)
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Nice. Get this done Garth.
It would be great to see JT sign up fir five or six. But you know right after he signs we will see toronto rumors swirl about him being unhappy with the contract and how he can’t wait until his six years is over so he can run to Leafs.
by Torch7 on Sep 14, 2011 7:59 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Can you imagine the headlines in Toronto if he signs?
JT to Toronto: Drop Dead
by Torch7 on Sep 14, 2011 8:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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RealKenDick Ken Dick
Of note, #Isles fans: Players’ dressing room has been repainted. Over the door are the 4 Stanley Cups and the word COMMITMENT beneath.
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TSN_News TSN
McKenzie: Tavares, Myers on the verge of multi-year extensions bit.ly/pz0Dru VIdeo player on right narrates article w/JT’s sick goal against the Blues
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NY Post on episode 4 of The DP Comeback
ehornick Eric Hornick
If #Isles can get Tavares deal done they’ll have 5 core Fs locked up for at least 3 more yrs: @grabs40, @mmoulson, Tavares,Okposo, @elnino25
6 hours ago
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
My take on RFAs: Schenn, Marchand, Bogosian, Bailey more likely than not will get done by the weekend. Dialogues ongoing, which is +ve sign.
7 hours ago
COmpton: Strome Shines for Isles
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 14, 2011 8:16 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That DP article is a good one.
I don’t think I’ve said that about anything written in the Post, ever.
Just read it and I agree
My biggest gripe is that the DiPietro saga could be a book, let alone a single article. The bits about him in college might be the best parts.
I know the likelihood of this happening is 0.0000000000000000000%, but I would love to see Rick win the Hart, Vezina, Jennings, Conn Smythe and Masterton in the same season. That might be the biggest middle finger to the hockey world ever.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent Paul Kraus.
by PGI on Sep 14, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's a terrible goalie.
The odds of that are lower than 0.
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Pitchf/x enthusiast.
He was a very good goalie before he got fucked up...
by KO21 on Sep 14, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
What makes me nervous is his new stand up style.
He doesn’t look comfortable in it at all, like a newly born foal, he’s kinda wobbly. Hopefully he gets in a ton of practice and gets used to it. He had great reflexes before, hopefully they’re still there. I always felt like he was a really good goalie that did stupid shit.
I spoke w/ somebody who saw him practicing w/ Satan and Nino
I know he’s worked hard this off-season and looked much more comfortable in his new style. I think if he can get his confidence back, he could be successful.
by backstop87 on Sep 14, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Very nice to hear. Thanks for the info. Is this the syosset place?
If this is true and he plays smarter around the puck out of the goal crease, my prediction of a .910+ save percentage from here doesn’t sound as crazy as I thought it would be.
I believe it was syosset
apparently the Isles had a goalie clinic there a month or so ago ran by sudsie. I spoke w/ someone who saw DP working out before the clinic began. He said his crease movement had drastically improved as well.
nicccccce
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by TheMetalChick on Sep 15, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
It's easy to forget and so many people will down play it
but he was easily top 10
by backstop87 on Sep 14, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
really... when?
and top 10 what? HE NEVER WON A PLAYOFF SERIES… BARELY WON A PLAYOFF GAME. His best SAV% was mediocre, and his biggest success was under Sterling’s trap… (see Marty Jr era).
He has driven six+ coaches to the drink because of his poor decisions…
He is a good guy, and if he was healthy he would be an asset to the team… but he has been no more than a distraction for going on 4 years.
I’m sorry, but I challenge your selective memory.
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by JPinVA on Sep 14, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
who's selecting memories, now?
He had a .911 save percentage in 03-04, with five shutouts; was an Olympian in 2006 and an All-Star in 2008; career-best .919 sv% in 2007, five more shutouts… He was poor in ‘06 with a year of rust post-lockout, and he was back to being pretty good in ’08 despite his off-season hip surgery: at the All-Star Break he was 19-17-6, .911 sv% again, 2.578 GAA, numbers that were well in line with what he’d done in ’04 and ’07. Then he was injured during the ASG, and to finish the year he had only an .881 sv% and 3.36 GAA, which is in fact even worse than his numbers while trying to recover since then.
I think he was better than we like to remember him, because we’ve had four years of Sideshow Rick (the Incredible Rehabbing Man!), and his best play was long ago.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Sep 14, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
yeah.. there's that...
and he gets to be an all-star because there’s really no other choice on the Islanders… and what is his most memorable moment as an ALL-STAR…
MIKED UP… because the glorious must fall gloriously…
“I just fucked my hip up again”
What a legacy!
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
well, someone's got to be better than Esche and Grahame
He could have been worse than them, instead. Or US Hockey could have noticed Tim Thomas.
I’m not saying he was Hasek, I’m just saying that he had a good season and two others that were above-average, and then he got hurt and that’s been it so far. Sqadoosh, to use a handy word I picked up from somewhere… But he wasn’t hurt on purpose. The guy was a legit starter when healthy, not a scrub.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Sep 15, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and RYAN MILLER.
Nassau Coliseum lost a veteran and an original Islander fan. ACC 1918-2011
by Hockey1919 on Sep 15, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No thanks, "bro"
http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/d/dipieri01.html
He had one pretty good year (’06-07) and was mostly average other than that.
yea bro he matured around age 25 like most goalies do
than got injured. I’m familiar w/ the stats tho tenks anyway guy
Having one good year doesn’t make you an “easily top 10” goalie ,bro, anymore than Jason Blake scoring 40 goals one year makes him an “easily top 10” forward.
Cool story though.
Except that Blake was well into his prime when he put up those numbers
while Rick was just entering his.
Except that how have DP’s “prime” years gone bro?
One pretty good year (not even great) simply does not make you a top 10 goalie or anything of the sort.
I cant give you proof that Rick would have been a top 10 starter for years to come
What I can do is point out that he seemed to mature around the same time alot of goalies do, and that he put up the 4th highest S% when he did (41+ GS). He injured himself shortly after and you know the rest…not really as cool story at all IMO.
Fair enough
I don’t think that his record establishes that he was a very good goalie, etc. Had promise? Sure.
But doesn’t really matter in the end…
You’ve got a ways to go.
But it’s a fun game.
by afrosupreme on Sep 14, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bro Hymn, anyone?
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Just picked a random game...
.. but pretty much what I remember for 2006… one good save.. four goals.. at least two bad clearing attempts.
memory refreshed
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
I lived them...
I watched every one of them in their entirety… don’t need to watch them again. He wasn’t stealing games. 2006-07 was about a patchwork defense and about five guys having career years to squeak into the playoff on DUBIE’S poke check.
There were just too many memories of him clearing the puck right to defenders, confusing his own defenseman because there he is stickhandling with two defensemen right next to him… really? is this the guy who is going to LEAD a team to the promised land? the answer is obviously no… but everybody wants to rewrite history now. Whatever the reasons, he has accomplished sqadoosh. Next chapter please.
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
by JPinVA on Sep 14, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
At his best...
He was the fourth best goalie in NY/NJ. He was “very good” under the light of being an NHL goalie… when you clicked the light one notch brighter to being a consistent above average goalie he started scattering like a cockroach, and at the full brightness of an ELITE NHL GOALIE there were the huge statures of Brodeur, Lundquist and Miller (just on the MSG network) which cast a shadow that made him (for the sake of argument) INVISIBLE.
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by JPinVA on Sep 14, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He was a ball of potential awesome at one point. Now that ball is unwound from years of the cat tossing it back and forth.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Sep 14, 2011 6:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I look back over the last ten years...
…and I say… When was that?
He had some good games, maybe even a good year… they were all wrapped in a goalie that wandered way too much, tried to do too much… and ended up really never even realizing mediocrity.
I say that realizing that being an NHL goalie is somethng none of us could even aspire to. I have respect for him in that regard… and the fact that he has worked his ass off to provide even the mediocre level of goaltending he has… but when folks say, “if it wasn’t for this.. or that.. he would have been…” What in God’s name are you dreaming about. He was a very good athlete that never really got it on the ice. He was out goaltended by every so called washed up replacement that was here in his stead. Ozzie took them to the playoffs… Roloson made the two of the shittiest teams in Islander history fun to watch at times. Even Dubie was better than screaming, “were the f*** is that moron going now…”
He’s not just an enigma, he’s our enigma.
BTW: Smitty was not even half the athlete that DP was, but he won 19 straight playoff series… THAT IS A BALL OF AWESOME. DP never had the potential to be THAT. He was a ball of POTENTIAL BALL OF MEDIOCRITY that was drafted number one overall by a MORON (who must have had other motives) and signed to a 15 year contract by a very loyal and poorly advised owner.
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
by JPinVA on Sep 14, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hear hear
STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Sep 14, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It was very good, and I was shocked
Not only by it’s “goodness”, but when was the last time the post had a 5pg article on the Isles? Is Cyrgalis our Post beat writer? Did we get one somehow you think?
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 14, 2011 11:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And no mention of Wang being the devil incarnate?
Larry Brooks is going to be pissed when he finds out.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent Paul Kraus.
Eff that guy, he blocked me
Also, he’s the epitome of the comic book charicarire news reporter…all frumpy and sloppy and disheveled.
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 14, 2011 12:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Cyrgalis was on the "beat" as allowed last year
At the beginning of the season, he was going to do more, but then they stunk right away and I suspect he was assigned Isles stuff less often. But he is the Post’s guy for Isles stuff, and I think he’s pretty darn good if they’ll let him cover them more.
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I really want DP to succeed
I just don’t see it happening. I’m skeptical that he’s actually 100 percent healthy, his version of healthy usually involves scheduled days off.
Pr*j*ct**ns lead to long term injuries, just ask the asian guy from Inception
DP
“I would put myself in the [category of] hockey player who happens to play goalie,” he said. “I enjoy fighting and I enjoy trying to contribute. That becomes a frustrating part of the game for me sometimes; as a goalie you’re kind of limited in how much you can do.”
We know.
I was trying to stir it up a little bit, and maybe change the momentum of the season," he continued. “I mean, it worked. I wish you told me at the beginning of the year that getting into a fight like that would have changed our luck a little bit and I would have done it in a heartbeat.”I really want to like him more, and I really want him to do well. It’s just awkward sometimes.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
by Dominik on Sep 14, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
WOW, talk about a team guy. Not only will he play and work his ass off to be at the top of his game physically, but he would also have his face broken again just to help the team.
Nice find Dom. Screw the haters!
by OzzyFan on Sep 14, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I see it a little differently...
He put himself on the IR for a good portion of the season. A season where they almost had to sign Cody Rosen. And it all started because he led a 3-on-1 out-douching of the master-douche Matt Cooke. If you remember how it started he knocked Cooke off balance and two guys roughed him up when he went down.
I remember a few agreed that it was an embarassment to be a fan at that moment…. and then to get your ass handed to you and say you did it for the team.
F you blow hard… I like Rick at times, and I think he’s comitted to his career… and the Islanders are the only team stupid (MIKE MILBURY) to waste teh number one overall pick on him… and then, without him doing stugots they sign him to a 15 year contract… Loyalty comes easy then…
LOYATY IS FRANS PLAYING LIKE A WORLD CLASS HOCKEY GOD FOR SHOELACES!!!
that being said, I’d really like him to earn his rah rah rah… go out there and post a 25-18-3 record with a 2.45 GAA and a nice .932 SAV%… otherwise… think about a job in the booth… and relieving your good friend of his $4.5M/YR comittment to you. That’ll be loyalty well worth reward.
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by JPinVA on Sep 14, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Too early to count him down and out. 3 surgeries and rehab is a lot of rust to shake off.
I know it may not be possible, but he deserves the benefit of the doubt for now given his contract and time off.
I understand why people are tired of him but I agree with giving Rick the benefit of the doubt.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Sep 14, 2011 6:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Honestly...
If he was signed for 3 years instead of 15, he’d be Rick Who?
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
by JPinVA on Sep 14, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ha!
Yes, the fight led to the team gaining momentum and having a strong 2nd half. Nothing to do with him not being in net for those games…he is delusional. And which season was he a bargain?
Wow.
I'm just hoping against hope that one was said tongue-in-cheek
Because, well, yeah … that fight? It kind of happened nine days, three games (1-1-1) and another injury before the “luck changed.”
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
(2-1-0) rather
The OTW was the Isles.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
as a goalie you’re kind of limited in how much you can do
Cyrgalis must have cut this off, because the quote had to go on to say:
as a goalie you’re kind of limited in how much you can do, but I’ve tried to change that by leaving the net at every opportunity, whether it’s to play the puck or just mix it up. Sometimes, it doesn’t work out, but the ladies love it.
by afrosupreme on Sep 14, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Will be forever grateful to Botta
for leading me to this site.
by 4PeatSake on Sep 14, 2011 9:10 AM EDT reply actions 10 recs
Got to love it.
yep,
Botta lead me here to – with a comment like “if you are going to disagree with me in the comments section, take your comments to lighthouse hockey, we only allow positive comments here that agree with me”
Well something like that, maybe not truly quoted but on point.
by Katzenhammer on Sep 14, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
cheers to botta
Same here 4peat. I wouldn’t be a lighthouse junky if botta didn’t call it the best isles blog out there. I know he doesn’t have a lot of fans on this site but I wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for him. I guess he has less fans now for that. Lol. Don’t hate me for no being sold on PA.
by Niagara Islander77 on Sep 14, 2011 1:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This place kept on being quoted in BR (I KNOW), so I figured I may as well come to the source...
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
You got me...
…what is BR?
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Bleacher Report. At least the jokers they have writing there used to link to here a lot.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Ah, I should have guessed
Didn’t know they linked anywhere outside.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I think they were just fanposts, but yeah, unless my memory is screwy.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
The fucked up thing is that the sports writers boycotted individual awards for Botta...
Now hes quitting?Unless hes going to be writing elsewhere?
Definitely...
He held a good portion of the fanbase together in a really bad time. No matter how you look at IPB, Botta was with the organizaton for 20 years… and not too many fruitful ones. He found a lot of good to talk about in his time as a second career blogger.
Botta, in that role, will be missed. I can also thank him for pointing me here.
CHEERS!
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Thanks for voting "YES" on Aug 1st... just not enough of you!!!
Agreed
I am nothing but appreciative for what Botta has done with covering the Isles the last few years. There was far more good than bad.
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by Dorfer on Sep 14, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
rec'ed
for being right and brave enough to say it.
Thou shalt not recognize false enemies, they are the Rangers, you shall have no other enemies before them.
Rec'd
For remembering the reality of the situation.
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
by JPinVA on Sep 14, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Was my last IPB post, but it never made it through.
I agree with the sentiment that he did many of us a favor by sending us here. The “banishment” was a blessing. Whether you were banished for :
- disagreeing with him,
- posting too often (I could not stand the stupidity in the comment sections that would go unchallenged or uncorrected if it fit his narrative),
- correcting him in the comments (then having the comment deleted after the article was updated) or
- actually calling him out to be a mature professional in “Garth-gate” (we’ll never know the whole story so I can sympathize, but not say who’s right),
I think we are all better served by having an open discussion here.
I was an adamant and ardent supporter early on and he did a great job of providing insight into the organization. I was even somewhat pissed by the Islanders cutting him off after year one and was one of his supporters that let the Islander know about it. Then the tone changed and it became personal, self-centered and vindictive. If you were new to the kool-aid he was selling fine, but those of us that were there from very early on, got slowly weeded out. He still had some great information and access to a broad rolodex that was informative and entertaining to the very end.
I think we are still going to be worse off without IPB if it does fold because more info is always better.
Nassau Coliseum lost a veteran and an original Islander fan. ACC 1918-2011
by Hockey1919 on Sep 15, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
- correcting him in the comments (then having the comment deleted after the article was updated)
God that was annoying.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Sep 16, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Losing Strang & Botta two straight??!?! Is this Christmas?
Sweet timing on that anouncement too; 3 weeks b/c the season. Couldn’t have just left in May & let someone else build up an audience. Good riddance
by maydog927 on Sep 14, 2011 9:54 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Strome may talk fast
But he sure has ben coached well on what to say for an 18 year old. It’s like listening to Tim Tebow. Cliche after cliche.
And yes, i still have a mancrush.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Sep 14, 2011 10:05 AM EDT reply actions
Contract for JT? Must be a sign and trade with Toronto
But . . . long term contract? YES, PLEASE (setting aside for the moment his incredible refusal to score 30g). I would buy a jersey.
One report said to expect around $5.5 mil per season
That would be great for 5 or 6 seasons. Even around $6-$6.5 mil per would be good for the Isles, I think. (Stamkos is $8 million. Crosby and Malkin are up around $9 million. But only two of those three are definitely healthy.)
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Sep 14, 2011 12:25 PM EDT reply actions
As long as it buys out significant (lets say 3 at minimum) post-control years.
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Pitchf/x enthusiast.
Sounds good, would be terrific if JT agrees for 5-6 years
But we all know that it’s a deal Christian Ehrhoff would still turn down.
by brother_rat on Sep 14, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
He cares about winning. Thats the reason he went to buffalo.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Sep 14, 2011 1:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They're in an interesting situation here with the CBA
No one knows if/how much they’ll be any sort of rollback or floor lowering. No one knows if the UFA age will remain the same. 5 or 6 x $5.5-6.5 is probably the best they can hope.
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Quick observation
Just watching the JT highlight goal v. St. Louis again because it was at the top of the article in nhl.com. PAP makes a good play to find JT, but I just noticed Moulson’s subtle bump in front of the net. (Was just watching JT’s stick the previous 20 times I watched it.) Would JT have beaten the 2nd defender if not for Moulson’s bump? Hard to say.
Can the season start already?
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Sep 14, 2011 12:33 PM EDT reply actions
MM's cut was pretty crucial to giving JT the space to go to his backhand
I was just rewatching that also, and MM’s crash to the net was crucial as Pietrangelo focused on him rather than JT, but there was a whole lot of pretty moves going on in that clip, Isles Fs doing their jobs. MM skated to the bottom of the right circle, then cut across at the red line to the goal behind Pietrangelo who had stopped in front of the net, and the D leaned and was turning to his right to go after Moulson when he and MM made contact. I can’t tell if MM bumped, or if Pietrangelo leaned back/right awkwardly to try to make contact with him; either way, MM’s cut took the D’s attention off JT who was coming right at him. JT saw all this and cut back to his backhand and outside of the traffic for the shot. A whole lotta Blues swiping at air there… And how about PA’s perfect spinny dish from the boards, man oh man.
I liked watching the prospie games, of course, but it just ain’t the same. Can’t wait.
Eklund has it so it must be true
I bet his “source” is the Tavares on-the-freaking-record quote in Newsday.
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Sep 14, 2011 12:35 PM EDT reply actions
That's awesome
Remind me to follow Buzz protocol and erase Newsday and Staple’s name from this post.
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You are joking,
but that’s exactly what TSN did. Wouldn’t have expected something like that from McKenzie.
That may not be it
I can’t tell if the material at that link’s been edited since you posted it, but when I go there he has the presser note, followed by reports of length. (The Islanders sent out a media advisory at about mid-day to alert us to the press conference and conference call.)
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It has been edited
I read the article this morning and kept the tab open. I figured I would read the comments later in the afternoon. Sorry I didn’t bother to reload the page before posting the link. Edited TSN reports are usually easy to spot because they keep the comments. More than often the first comment is older than the report itself.
Interesting
And heavens, no need to apologize for that! I don’t read much TSN, so I wasn’t familiar with their editing process.
For the record for anyone interested, when I screw up here, I change it if I catch it right away, use a strikethrough if there’s a delay, and try to thank whoever corrected me if it happened in comments.
There are certain freedoms in doing this without it being a job: One of them is not feeling compelled to cover my ass and pretend mistakes didn’t happen!
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Quick observation from a Canadian.
F*%$ Toronto.
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by NSOsFan on Sep 14, 2011 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Isles questions???
NYIslanders NYIslanders
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Sounds like Theoret's OK
Theoret23 Mitchell Theoret
Downtown Manhatten right now, shopping? #firsttime
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 14, 2011 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Well....do people really go Downtown to shop? Isn't that more of a Midtown activity?
Sounds to me like he’s lost, confused and probably wandering around downtown Uniondale. Sounds like another concussion. WTF?
by Les Beaver on Sep 14, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's Canadian
Probably used to buying flannel and gore-tex
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 14, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah...
and it’s tough to get a MOLSON suitcase near the collie.
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HEY!
I wear Flannel and gore-tex (and have a Molson kit-bag?)!
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Uh oh.
Theoret23 Mitchell Theoret
Downtown Manhatten right now, with PA Parentau. Some dude in funny glasses won’t let us in any clubs. NYPost just took my picture though! #lookformeonpage6
30 minutes ago
by Les Beaver on Sep 14, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
No way
is that real? Hilarious.
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It might be real, but I don't have twitter, so I can't confirm it.
But you know that thing about the monkeys typing Hamlet? It could happen…it’s a quantum universe after all….
I think we have another
TWIT to follow… AWESOME!
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Anyone know who this is? Credible? More inclined to listen to Stape/McKenzie/LeBrun personally
Islanders411 Islanders411
Hearing Tavares deal to be anywhere from 6-10 years. Wow. #Isles
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I hope Islanders411 isn't Botta trying to make Snow look dumb on his way out.
Though I’d have to give him mad credit if he started this rumor…
You know
there is a huge difference between JT/Yash/DP, but I’m still not comfortable with a 10 year deal for anyone. 6/7 I feel like would be just right.
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I'd like 6/7 as well
Any more than that and you’re getting too many uncomfy Milbury comparisons, and 6-7 years is definitely enough time to tell where this team is heading with him as a focal point.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
I agree
Especially with one 10-year deal and an 8-year buyout already on the books. If they didn’t have them, 10 would be fine by me. But that many long-ass deals make me nervous.
On the plus side, JT stays for a good long while.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent Paul Kraus.
I am suspicious of anyone who "hears" things
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What if he’s got a guy? You know, a guy who knows things?
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by David Hanssen on Sep 14, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I know a guy who says things
and he’s a lying sack of shit!
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Sometimes I see a man about a horse
It’s sometimes followed by taking the kids to the pool.
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Hey
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by David Hanssen on Sep 14, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Okay, that's fantastic!
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He was misformed
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Well
That’s what happens when you listen to Charlie Sheen.
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by David Hanssen on Sep 14, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Every time his voice goes up
I always think of Stewie asking Brian how his novel is going. Good times.
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by Dominik on Sep 14, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Depends
who told you he knows things? The guy that says things? In that case, no dice.
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deHaan
Mic’d up at practice
Best one “…no I’ll go first…I wanna get better”.
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the best part...
is he’s an atheist.
“swear to God?”
“no, can’t do that!”
I’m so grateful that God made me an atheist as well.
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Thanks for voting "YES" on Aug 1st... just not enough of you!!!
that could also mean that he's devout and doesn't want to swear frivolously
Just sayin’.
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i think i can get to like dehaan...seemed like hes gonna fit right in with the jokesters...now if he only has a twitter
wake me up when the isles start to play
Strang on JT
KatieStrangESPN Katie Strang
#Isles announce they will make future on John Tavares tmrw at 1 p.m. Can’t imagine what that will be about
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Because Garth hasn't told you what to imagine yet, Katie.
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by NSOsFan on Sep 14, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
More
tonystabile Anthony Stabile
#isles call Thursday press conference to announce John Tavares extension
1 minute ago
7thWoman Dee Karl
#isles press conference tomorow at 1 pm regarding JT! YEAH! GOOD NEWS!
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply
BComptonNHL Brian Compton
#Isles holding press conference tomorrow regarding John Tavares.
37 seconds ago
KatieStrangESPN Katie Strang
Press conference with #Isles GM Garth Snow will take place at Nassau Coliseum, presumably to address Tavares’ contract extension
IslesRM Rob McGowan
Islanders to make announcement tomorrow at 1 PM regarding John Tavares’ future — this could be excellent news #isles #NHL
Sean_Leahy Sean Leahy
Islanders call press conference tomorrow at 1pm regarding announcement about Tavares’ future. Signed, sealed, delivered…
3 minutes ago
JoshRimerHockey Josh Rimer
Tavares to announce new deal tomorrow!
3 minutes ago
James Mirtle
mirtle James Mirtle
Islanders will make an announcement regarding the future of John Tavares at 1 p.m. tomorrow. Hmmmmm.
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NYIslanders NYIslanders
#Isles news: Press conference tomorrow with John Tavares and Garth Snow.
2 minutes ago
sealshockey Brad Kurtzberg
#Isles set to make “major announcement” on John Tavares tomorrow at 1pm. Will announce long term extension
2 minutes ago
TSNScottyMac Scott MacArthur
#Isles call 1:00 ET press conference tomorrow to announce future of John Tavares. Likely a new contract. #TSN1050 #NHL
5 minutes ago
IslesRM Rob McGowan
I wonder if not only contract extension for Tavares will be at the conference tomorrow, but perhaps captaincy? Just my speculation #isles
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Everybody got their news advisory
But we’re the only ones who update LHH first before rambling on the twitter!
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by Dominik on Sep 14, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wish more of these guys did the twitter thing
otherwise we have to actualy get into the editor to get the story going and it takes longer to let them know…Also, if they are in another story and don’t click back within a thread, they find out way later.
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My Botta "Eulogy"
I would be here if not for him and his assurance to me that this was not a site devoted to the Lighthouse Project when I joined this community about two years ago. That being said, I can’t help but wonder if his stepping away from Point Blank should have been sooner. While the kerfuffle (or hubbub, hootenanny or any other turn of the century term you would like to use) about his press pass being revoked may have raised his stature around the league, to those like myself and some others in this community it was just another time Botta made the story about himself and not the team he was covering. And for me I was sick of it. Botta went off the deep end and honestly today to read his announcement was the first time I’ve been to IPB in over a year. I had been a devoted reader since IPB started, but I couldn’t deal with him anymore. I just couldn’t take him seriously once the story was no longer about the team on the ice. I wish him luck on future endeavors, but I can’t help but think what could have been if Botta hadn’t made the story about Botta.
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by David Hanssen on Sep 14, 2011 3:19 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Agreed and Rec'd
I had problems with Botta stemming from him making the story about himself the week before the Lighthouse Project public hearing. It was always about him first, but I choose now to remember the work he’s done for this fanbase and raising the team’s profile. Either way, we’ll move forward, and I hope the crazies don’t migrate here.
by Nick (LetThereBeLighthouse) on Sep 14, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Either way, we’ll move forward, and I hope the crazies don’t migrate here.
Here Here!
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by David Hanssen on Sep 14, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly this.
The whole video from the docks was what ended it for me. That was just childish attention whoring.
by Les Beaver on Sep 14, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I can't say that ended it for me...
But it was definitely a turning point. My only response to that was, “Really?”
He still did some good stuff after that, but it put him in the Whiney Bitch Bin… but I have a way higher opinion of the guy than that. It was just one moment that I wasn’t really a fan of.
Most everything (good and bad) on this thread is true… but like Nick I think we can use selective memory because the good definitely outwieghs the bad… so let’s focus on the good.
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I forgot to mention this
Because I really, honestly (One superfluous too many maybe?) appreciate Botta for his work with charity, especially his involvement with Pat LaFontaine’s Companions in Courage charity. I know my family was touched personally by the work CiC does when my nephew was in the hospital two and a half years ago. Botta raised an incredible amount of money for CiC with the drive he did on IPB and is really invested in his charity work.
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by David Hanssen on Sep 14, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Many of us on this site donated
and then we were told politely to go away by being placed in perpetual moderation.
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by Hockey1919 on Sep 15, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so true.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Sep 16, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
What was the docks video? I ask this as spmeone who gave up on him a while ago though I still checked his site for info. I didn’t bother with his videos because I didn’t want to waste the time.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Sep 14, 2011 7:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You know, thinking about it, the docks was after the Islanders said they wouldn't sponsor (?) the blog anymore.
I was thinking it was after the credentials were revoked, so my timeline is probably off. But after they said they weren’t sponsoring the blog, he went down to some dock and made a video explaining the situate and, from what I recall, kind of a “this may be it…” sort of message. A bit dramatic and over the top, I thought. Not sure what the point of it all was….
Great Compton Tweet
Tavares last week: “I know Charles is going to make every attempt to keep the team here. We believe it’ll work out. We’re not sweating over it.” #Isles
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Okay so here's the big question
How is this possible? I thought that you had to wait until January (mid-season) to extend a kid on an ELC according to the CBA? Not that I care, b/c I want JT here immediately, but what’s up with that?
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Veterans on one-year deals have to wait until Jan. 1
Others have to wait until the final year of their contract (so after July 1).
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As with everything in the CBA
There are probably two other stupid footnotes I’m forgetting at the moment.
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This falls under Article π√7, Section blue.3
Teams are allowed to take any action that gets the Toronto hockey media involved in what would otherwise be a dead news day.
Subsection ii – teams are also allowed to take any action that gets said media snickering about the Islanders and long-term contracts.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Sep 14, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Section ¥¨∂ states
When the Leafs are in the playoffs, they are on the verge of the Stanley Cup.
When the Leafs are out of the playoffs, they are an awful organization who has duped you into believing they might compete for the Stanley Cup.
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Addendum Diggity
The Leafs will win the cup every year. Until April.
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by NSOsFan on Sep 14, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Would anyone be interested in an Upper Midwest Isles get together?
I’ll do a fanshot too to gauge this as well, but the Isles will be visiting The Wild on December 17th for a Saturday evening game. Would anyone be interested? I will definitely be there.
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So much vacation
I have so much vacation that I haven’t used that I could consider making a trip to the Twin Cities. I’ll be at (almost) every home game this year, need to meet some people interested in making that type of trip.
by dunnowhat2type on Sep 14, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooooh
Minnesota in December sounds lovely.
Seriously, I’d love to if I can swing it. I’ll have to plot out my year with the bosses, both domestic and office-based.
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Winter in Minnesota
It’s the best 8 months of the year!
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by David Hanssen on Sep 14, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm planning a trip to Minnesota as well
but probably in November, not December. I would love to do a meet-up then!
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
Depending on the flight cost from Chicago
That could be fun
by Original Rob on Sep 14, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
You going to the Dec. 2 game in Chicago?
Or does a Hawks game cost you a new Kia these days.
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Yep, I plan to
Haven’t bought the tickets yet though. And yes, they are outrageously expensive at the UC. Quite a difference from the tickets I was looking at on Stubhub earlier today for the Oct. 10 matinee vs. Minny (at the Coli). Front row in 200 levels going for about $40. You’re lucky to get standing room tickets for $40 at the UC.
by Original Rob on Sep 14, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Tomorrow
I can’t think of a bigger day for the franchise (on ice; lighthouse project / new coli excluded) in over, what, 15 years?
Enjoy it folks. Players like JT come along very rarely, and we are going to have ours for the next 6-7 years.
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Botta right back at it with coverage
ChrisBottaNHL Chris Botta
Talking Long Island, #Isles and Tavares with @GinoRedaTSN on TSN’s That’s Hockey, tonight at 7:00 pm.
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Ah, so he went to TSN.
I knew he was going somewhere. No way he’s going to fade away and get an office job.
Strang saying done deal
KatieStrangESPN Katie Strang
BREAKING: Tavares agrees on contract extension w/ #Isles es.pn/n1gIrH
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 14, 2011 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
StapeNewsday Arthur Staple
Framework of #Isles extension with John Tavares in place: 6 years, roughly $5.5m average annual value, as @TSNBobMcKenzie said earlier.
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If that IS the deal, I like it.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
If that is accurate, then
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :D
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Sep 14, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
JT terms?
6 years, roughly $5.5m average annual value
is the word from Staple, McKenzie, Strang, etc.
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That's going to be a steal
REAL pumped.
No Sleep 'til....
What about Uncle Al?
My Uncle Al says to stand by while he checks his sources. Also, Aunt Bertha made a rhubarb pie.
What they're saying...
ryan lambert
twolinepass ryan lambert
tavares shoulda held out for that extra myers year. by the way tavares is a way better investment at 5.5m than myers, who is overrated.
1 minute ago
George E. Ays
RangerSmurf George E. Ays
$5.5m for Tavares is pretty darn solid if his progression stays on track.
2 minutes ago
JaredOfLondon JaredOfLondon
Tavares with the same cap hit as Myers? good job Buffalo
1 minute ago
SkinnyPPPhish Colin Odneal
So will the media act surprised at tomorrow’s Tavares presser when they announce the deal and its terms?
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NonAmericanHero Kevin Sellathamby
Potential bargain RT @KatieStrangESPN Paperwork has yet to be completed but Tavares has agreed to a six-year extension with AAV of 5.5M
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Those sounds you hear are the Maple Leafs' fans senses of entitlement getting ruffled.
Also, wailing and gnashing of teeth.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Mixed with the sounds of
Canadian media vultures looking for another player to circle.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent Paul Kraus.
I'm guessing Doughty
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
/eyeroll
Don’t confuse Toronto media with fans…. please
Chicken Little is dead. Long Live Positive Pete.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I know enough Leafs fans upon which to base it :P
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
They exist in such mass quantity
That you can find idiots, geniuses, murderers and nuclear physicists among them in bulk.
Which is how the worst in Toronto media can get away with what they do: Feed the trolls.
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mlse Pension Plan Puppets
Tavares was 28th in points last year and will have 56th highest cap hit in the NHL this year. Oh God what a horrible contract. /rolls eyes
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stevelepore Steve Lepore
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@mlse Especially for the Islanders, who probably thought they’d have to pay big.
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mlse Pension Plan Puppets
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@stevelepore Exactly. They lock down a huge piece without having to go nuts.
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Curious
Is either Jared or Lambert’s comment sarcastic, or are those two totally different perspectives on Myers’ deal?
I think they're both sarcastic
I think they both view JT as the superior player and the signing as a smart move where Buffalo is continuing to overspend. All of those guys know their hockey shit…If they thought JT’s deal was crap, they’d say.
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I though
Lambert was straight up and Jared was sarcastic. But I know Lambert is rarely sincere. If he’s sarcastic though, he’s defending Buffalo and killing the Isles with “by the way tavares is a way better investment at 5.5m than myers, who is overrated.” But I don’t read that as sarcastic really, because it’s not funny.
It’s funny because it’s true?
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by David Hanssen on Sep 14, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
Yes, what Dave said below…I guess what I meant was snide, with some barbs toward Buffalo…not so much sarcastic in an “opposite of what he’s saying” sense.
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 14, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Crap
above me, below you!
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 14, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
If Dreger has it, it's official
DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
Tavares extension: 6 years. $4mil, $5 mil, $6 mil, $6 mil,$6MIL, $6 MIL.
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 14, 2011 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't understand
Where’s the comical last three seasons at $600,000 per? Geez, you’d think Garth would know how to circumvent uh, massage the salary cap by now.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Sep 14, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
LOVE THIS
Can a quick CBA translator let us know how many years of UFA Garth bought? Because by 2018-19, he’s gonna be worth at least $20M per. Well… we can hope.
CAP $200M… CAP FLOOR $165M… carton of milk $80.
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John Tavares is leaving hockey to enter the clergy.
by Isles2011 on Sep 14, 2011 4:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
not necessary
The Islanders already have the Right Reverend Nelson. I suppose Tavs can be his deacon, though.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Sep 14, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Phenomenal
Tomorrow the NY Islanders will announce that John Taveres has signed an extension for 5 years.
Truly a wonderful signing and speaks volumes that this team is looking for stability.
Bravo Garth Snow.
Eric Hornick
ehornick Eric Hornick
Counting Tavares #isles will have 10 rostered players in place for 2012-13 and a cap payroll of 30.8M #nhl
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The gates are flooding
Marchand, Tavares and now Boghossian
Pierre LeBrun
Bogosian agrees to two-year, $5-million, deal with Winnipeg Jet
awesome
Now Toronto can budget properly for his salary when they trade for him, eh?
/everyLeafsfan
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by mikb on Sep 14, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So I went to TSN comments, cause I'm thinking "They can't have much bad to say about this deal..."
I am so naive. People are insane.
by Les Beaver on Sep 14, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In other signings
chrismpeters Chris Peters
Sneaky signing. Pretty solid NCAA defenseman at UNH. RT @NHLFlyers #Flyers have signed defenseman Blake Kessel to an entry-level contract.
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Philadelphia Flyers
NHLFlyers Philadelphia Flyers
by BComptonNHL
#Flyers have signed defenseman Blake Kessel to an entry-level contract, according to GM Paul Holmgren.
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Meanwhile...
Josh Bailey… “Fucking Winnipeg!!!…. REALLY!?!?!”
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
CONTEST!
Maybe this should be a fan post but let’s see what reaction I get. Eklund yesterday said that he had two sources for an Bailey for Turris trade. Of course it sounds kind of preposterous and I have no expectation it will happen. But I’m wondering if anyone can identify a single transaction that he predicted correctly? Over the time I have been visiting his site (basically this offseason), I believe there have been exactly ZERO rumors that turned out to be correct. Can you find one?
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Sep 15, 2011 8:09 PM EDT reply actions
In the past I have seen him posts some things right as they are first breaking
I think it was done to help his cred record.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Sep 16, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I have seen people do lengthy studies on him
And found about a 3% success rate — and that’s bending the definition of “success.”
I find him not worth the energy nor attention, really.
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1979-80
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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.
The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.
1980-81
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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.
Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.
1981-82
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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.
A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.
1982-83
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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.
Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.
