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Let's Play Two: Islanders-Bruins Prospects Resume Tonight

Everybody watchin' Nino.

If this were a playoff series, the Islanders would be talking about salvaging a split, and the Bruins would be explaining "we're not happy with a split, we want more" tonight, the second game of a back-to-back between the rookies and hopefuls of these two respective organizations.

Since it's about the farthest thing from a playoff series, there will be players settling little scores from last night, perhaps keeping an eye on the "two fights and you're out" rule, and remembering that if they weren't too visible last night (Dougie Hamilton? Matt Donovan?), they'll want to make a bigger impression tonight.

Of course that's not quite fair: Donovan is almost certainly AHL-bound this year. Hamilton is almost certainly bound to return to juniors. And last night was the first instance of elevated competition most of these prospects have seen all summer. (A few, such as Ryan Strome, did at least see WJC development camp with an exhibition game or two.)

It doesn't mean much long-term, but it is fun to watch some of the raw skill level involved with prospects you read about more than you see actually play. And while they won't live and die by an exhibition game, their coaches do expect them to make an impression.

Star-divide

Notes and Errata

In conversations at this site -- and we have some Swiss members who give us interesting perspectives -- Nino's training and mindset as a Swiss player in North America has come up a lot. We're all hoping for the best while also parsing each scrap of detail, which can be both helpful and dangerous given the limited exposure.

Capuano was asked about both Niederreiter and Ryan Strome last night -- those are the high-profile prospects here, and they combined for some pretty powerplay work -- and he was quick to temper praise. He's more worried about 5-on-5 play. If Niederreiter is to make the team this year, he should be more worried about 5-on-5 too.

But it's a long camp. Niederreiter has the benefit of both this rookie camp week and next week with the big boys. The Islanders as an organization have sent signs that they'd love for Niederreiter to make the team. Capuano as a coach needs to -- and has been -- sending signs that a job will not be handed to him. With so many other forwards -- some with pro experience -- pushing from below, there could be as many as three forward openings up for battles in the pro camp.

Nino's job is hardly assured. But it's also not his to win or lose based on some rookie scrimmages and prospect games. It's going to be a fun month.

 

Elsewhere in the Land o' the Hockey

We'll be live-threading the game again tonight, just like last night. It will be streamed again, but this one is also open to the public (free to season-ticket holders, $10 donation for others), so the presence of fans might also add a little more edge to the proceedings.

Nothing a little "Live is Life" can't soften.

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Ahem...

Dustin Kohn is off to Sweden. He signed with Orebro.

by Francesca on Sep 13, 2011 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Ah! Thanks.

Stupid “Sw…” words in the head. The headline even says it right there, and it still came out of my head wrong!

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Sep 13, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You could've written

Swaziland (is that still a country? ;)

by 4PeatSake on Sep 13, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last I checked

It’s funny, when Francesca first wrote that I was like, “Yeah. And?” Had to go back up and find my mistake. I must’ve still had the Nino thoughts on the mind.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Sep 13, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

bravo on the Dino

reference, and finding the perfect pic to boot! 10/10 post sir!

These comments crawl up from the depths of the deepest Chasm of Saar

by bob l on Sep 13, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you could photoshop some Haley-drawn blood

trickling down the side of both Granny-saur and Avery’s face, you’d get bonus points for your post

I just scored another Tuscan Dairy goal!

by Chris McNally on Sep 13, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Eh

Those are definitely less Grandma/Lisa Loeb’ish, more Don Draper from “The Jet Set” episode of Mad Men.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Sep 13, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

"NOT the grandMA-MA!" LOL

That is frickin’ HILARIOUS…..

by ogam5 on Sep 13, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

And for anyone interested in Petrov...

AlessandroSerenRosso
AlexSerenRosso AlessandroSerenRosso
Kirill Petrov scored two in Ak Bars’ 4-2 win over Dinamo Riga (3rd period still going) #NYIslanders
56 minutes ago

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by Keith Quinn on Sep 13, 2011 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Cool

I hope he gets lots of ice time and takes off this year. It may be best to have him developing over there and help clarify the Islanders decisions next summer.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Sep 13, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

More than next summer

He’s considered “defected” so they have until his mid-20s or so. (I’d have to check the CBA to get the exact age.)

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Sep 13, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

I’m still secretly thinking this Kirill will be the more valueable one in some year’s time. However, it seems he’ll need to work hard to get that ice-time, only got 11 shifts and 10:00 TOI in this game. But hey, scoring twice sure helps to move up a bit.

by BenHasna on Sep 13, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weird...damn WInterhawks

mike_morreale Mike Morreale
Ryan Johansen will sit out tonight’s game against the Wild — healthy scratch. #traversecity
2 hours ago

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by Keith Quinn on Sep 13, 2011 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

ANother bankruptcy

kuklaskorner Kukla’s Korner .com
Report- Stars Will File Bankruptcy With A Proposal For A Quick Sale: from Tom Hals of Reuters at Canada.com, The… dlvr.it/lLW57
2 hours ago

Arthur Staple
StapeNewsday Arthur Staple
Also, for #Isles fans, the @NewsdaySports stories are now available to most everyone, free of charge. Bookmark newsday.com/sports/hockey/…
2 hours ago

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by Keith Quinn on Sep 13, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Better coverage!?

But we lost Katie Strang.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Sep 13, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are keeping him fresh for main camp

How many games do they play in Traverse City? I suppose more than Isle’s two.

by Francesca on Sep 13, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, here is the link

Newsday Isles Page

NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 13, 2011 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Still looks like a subscription is needed

Or maybe its just me

DP will be good again... written 9/6/11. Now thats a prediction truly believed!

by themass on Sep 13, 2011 3:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think you need it (or mobile) for the blog

But not the regular stories.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Sep 13, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Game 2

What I expect to see:
1. Somebody needs to havea word with Mr. Randell
2. A better effort between the pipes. Opportunity is knocking…
3. I assume Rakh will eb held out for this one, so maybe Ullstrom between DiBo and Persson?
4. The announcement of a CAPTAIN… and the signing of Bailey before vet camp begins.

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by JPinVA on Sep 13, 2011 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Bailey

Every time I think about that situation, I wonder if Snow is waiting for a just-in-case a GM gets ticked and one of the RFA D-men shakes loose.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Sep 13, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wrote that in my Josh Bailey fanpost about a month ago

and everybody thought I was nuts. Guess Im just ahead of my time.

I just scored another Tuscan Dairy goal!

by Chris McNally on Sep 13, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

Or, at least, I still think you’re nuts (or a GM who deals Bogosion is nuts).

I still see it as remote; but if Snow has a sense one of his peers might panic, he might be waiting.

On the other hand, I don’t see a reasonable contract influencing Bailey’s dealability one way or the other. So I still say the more likely scenario is this is all on the agents, including Bailey’s. Snow may be waiting for other GMs to panic. But the agents may be waiting for the GMs to panic in a quite different way. I guess it’s all they can do when they have zero leverage.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Sep 13, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

unwritten rule

“don’t mess with other teams RFAs” On the other hand if the GM’s play " Lets make a deal", that’s a different story. The Isle’s most likely can’t make it with an undersized just coming back fro injury back line they now have. They can make it without Bailey. Don’t be surprised by a deal.

by altosax on Sep 13, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

All in the name of indentured servitude!

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Sep 13, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or as Friedman said in the CBC Sports article

The agents are all playing chicken since this is a favorable CBA for post-ECL contracts and they want to maximize before the next CBA.

Nassau Coliseum lost a veteran and an original Islander fan. ACC 1918-2011

by Hockey1919 on Sep 14, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tonight's roster and link to feed from team site

Rosters for tonight’s #Isles vs #Bruins Rookie game: nyisl.es/6t5SL and your live stream link: nyisl.es/6t9rc

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by Keith Quinn on Sep 13, 2011 3:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Also

Sorry and I’m annoyed that these twitter links aren’t active anymore. I feel like they used to be…

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by Keith Quinn on Sep 13, 2011 3:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

They used to

With new twitter they are not anymore.

by Francesca on Sep 13, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

New Twitter

= worse Twitter

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Sep 13, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose you hate New Coke too!

Nassau Coliseum lost a veteran and an original Islander fan. ACC 1918-2011

by Hockey1919 on Sep 14, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody notice how Klementyev played last night?

Saw him at the Bridge last season and thought he had potential…..skills were there, has size but seemed a little out of place in the North American rink. He was paired with Witt on some shifts that night.

Maybe another year has helped his development???

by 4PeatSake on Sep 13, 2011 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

He was supposedly

coming out into his own with all the injuries last year, I think he was top pairing for a while before he got hurt.

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by Mark D on Sep 13, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Went back to Russia for Funeral

isles gave him permission to attend funeral of the players that went down in the plane crash. Evidently he had a few buddies on that Lokimotiv team. believe he will be back before end of week.

by 19holekc on Sep 13, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe thats his hometown team. He was not only friends with them, he played with Locomotiv too and practices with those guys in the offseason. Poor kid.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Sep 13, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, so rough

And toiling over here in a strange land at a young age as a longshot pick. I just hope his head is in a good place amid all this.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Sep 14, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

FIG Strome (Nino and de Haan) 4.20

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Sep 13, 2011 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

FIG Ullstrom (DiBenedetto) 6:41

That’s the spirit.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Sep 13, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

FIG Kabanov (Persson, Kitchton) 2:42

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by Keith Quinn on Sep 13, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

FIG Nino (Strome, Bidlevski)

Logic… Nino has arms like the branches on a FIG TREE. Strome will be out there with him, and hopefully Bidlevski will be out there with him on a good number of his shifts so that Randell doesn’t beat the crap out of him again.

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by JPinVA on Sep 13, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

THEY HATH STOL'N OUR THUNDER!!!

NYIslanders NYIslanders
Which #Isles Rookie will strike first tonight? @ us with your #1stGoal guesses by 6:45.
11 minutes ago

Yup… the TEAM has nicked our FIG. Should we be honored, or a little peeved?

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by mikb on Sep 13, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

They ripped it off last year...

a few weeks after WE started it they started doing it on FB… now they’re tweeting it.
There is no © on the FIG… but there’s is all dried and gooey… ours is fresh and goes well roasted with lamb.

Lighthouse Hockey: Home of the "STROME-BOLI"!
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by JPinVA on Sep 13, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yep

They are like Federer’s puny left arm. Must be a swiss thing.

by Francesca on Sep 13, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

when you play a TEAM sport you need more defined arms to be a WINNER…

…and she can’t even use them… except to carry her bag from the bus to the locker room.

Lighthouse Hockey: Home of the "STROME-BOLI"!
Thanks for voting "YES" on Aug 1st... just not enough of you!!!

by JPinVA on Sep 13, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Came for the Hamm

Stayed for the Brandi.

/Letterman

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Sep 13, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

great line...

to describe one of the greatest moments in sports history…
7:11 of OT
US Hockey team in 1980
Bill Buckner
THE CATCH (sorry Endy, not yours)
Wide right
and Brandi rips her shirt off.

Lighthouse Hockey: Home of the "STROME-BOLI"!
Thanks for voting "YES" on Aug 1st... just not enough of you!!!

by JPinVA on Sep 13, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait a minute

She has arms in that picture? Hadn’t noticed.

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by mikb on Sep 14, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually

I think tonight is a very important game for many of these players

at some point some choices need to be made – and this group of players needs to be split into

those going back to juniors etc
those going to Bridgeport or your ECHL finalist K-Wings
those making the team
those being cut

am guessing Cap & Garth are approaching tonight’s game with an idea of who falls into each category and will use tonight’s game as a barometer to prove them wrong

by Cary K on Sep 13, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Once again I stress that these games are far less important than you think.

A single game is not very big, or even two games, especially when they’re basically exhibitions, in the eyes of the team, who gets to see these players during practices. The team knows most of the info about these guys already. The play helps cement their views for sure, but they’ve had far more time than two games to look at each player to make their decisions.

The games are more important since we’re playing against non-Isles competition. But not THAT much.

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by garik16 on Sep 13, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

This may be a predictable sentiment, but.....

…..seems there’s been a lot of unfair heaping on Dono in the past several hours for sloppy defense (not visible? Thought he played well, if not fantastic; needs to develop his transition game somewhat but, overall, I’m very encouraged by what I saw from him, Ness and deHaan last night…..)

by ogam5 on Sep 13, 2011 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, I'm sure he'll be fine

Just think he had an off/non-remarkable game is all. You need both a good day and opportunity to get noticed in a single prospect game.

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by Dominik on Sep 13, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

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