Let's Play Two: Islanders-Bruins Prospects Resume Tonight
If this were a playoff series, the Islanders would be talking about salvaging a split, and the Bruins would be explaining "we're not happy with a split, we want more" tonight, the second game of a back-to-back between the rookies and hopefuls of these two respective organizations.
Since it's about the farthest thing from a playoff series, there will be players settling little scores from last night, perhaps keeping an eye on the "two fights and you're out" rule, and remembering that if they weren't too visible last night (Dougie Hamilton? Matt Donovan?), they'll want to make a bigger impression tonight.
Of course that's not quite fair: Donovan is almost certainly AHL-bound this year. Hamilton is almost certainly bound to return to juniors. And last night was the first instance of elevated competition most of these prospects have seen all summer. (A few, such as Ryan Strome, did at least see WJC development camp with an exhibition game or two.)
It doesn't mean much long-term, but it is fun to watch some of the raw skill level involved with prospects you read about more than you see actually play. And while they won't live and die by an exhibition game, their coaches do expect them to make an impression.
Notes and Errata
- Anders Nilsson will get the start tonight. I don't think there's any question Kevin Poulin is the lead dog among the three goalies in rookie camp, so this is a big chance for Nilsson to show step above his draft classmate Mikko Koskinen.
- As discussed in last night's game thread here and post-game recap, special teams really colored the game. Jack Capuano said likewise, with a little more at the official site.
- Mark Streit discusses his surgery and return to skating on New World land. (Just to be clear: He has been skating in Switzerland all summer.)
- Ken Morrow and Garry Galley get some honors from their old haunts.
- Dustin Kohn is off to
Switzerland[edit: Sweden. Stupid head to fingers not working today]. - Arthur Staple did a profile of Nino Niederreiter before last night's game. Chris Botta had info from last year on Nino's "mental coach."
In conversations at this site -- and we have some Swiss members who give us interesting perspectives -- Nino's training and mindset as a Swiss player in North America has come up a lot. We're all hoping for the best while also parsing each scrap of detail, which can be both helpful and dangerous given the limited exposure.
Capuano was asked about both Niederreiter and Ryan Strome last night -- those are the high-profile prospects here, and they combined for some pretty powerplay work -- and he was quick to temper praise. He's more worried about 5-on-5 play. If Niederreiter is to make the team this year, he should be more worried about 5-on-5 too.
But it's a long camp. Niederreiter has the benefit of both this rookie camp week and next week with the big boys. The Islanders as an organization have sent signs that they'd love for Niederreiter to make the team. Capuano as a coach needs to -- and has been -- sending signs that a job will not be handed to him. With so many other forwards -- some with pro experience -- pushing from below, there could be as many as three forward openings up for battles in the pro camp.
Nino's job is hardly assured. But it's also not his to win or lose based on some rookie scrimmages and prospect games. It's going to be a fun month.
Elsewhere in the Land o' the Hockey
- Niederreiter's Winterhawks are stretched quite thin with so many of their players away at NHL camps.
- WEEI on last night's rookie game.
- LeafsNation has been doing a lot of this kind of work. Here they are on the location of shots allowed.
- Down Goes Brown with his annual NHL 12 review. Tongue firmly in cheek.
- In Lou We Trust was predictably displeased by the Post report about the Devils finances. It's the Post, so trust it as you'd trust anything under Rupert Murdoch's control. But I will venture that someone leaked that story for some reason, so it's at minimum a sign of smoke in the Devils' ownership saga and looming post-Nets financial situation.
- Speaking of the Post, here's something about them and Sean Avery that involves two parties I don't really care about. All race to the lowest common denominator!
We'll be live-threading the game again tonight, just like last night. It will be streamed again, but this one is also open to the public (free to season-ticket holders, $10 donation for others), so the presence of fans might also add a little more edge to the proceedings.
Nothing a little "Live is Life" can't soften.
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Ah! Thanks.
Stupid “Sw…” words in the head. The headline even says it right there, and it still came out of my head wrong!
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You could've written
Swaziland (is that still a country? ;)
Last I checked
It’s funny, when Francesca first wrote that I was like, “Yeah. And?” Had to go back up and find my mistake. I must’ve still had the Nino thoughts on the mind.
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Avery
Those glasses he’s wearing instantly reminded me of the grandmother from ‘Dinosaurs’:


by Dorfer on Sep 13, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Lisa Loeb with a crew cut has been my standard definition and I'm sticking with it.
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by Hockey1919 on Sep 13, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
bravo on the Dino
reference, and finding the perfect pic to boot! 10/10 post sir!
These comments crawl up from the depths of the deepest Chasm of Saar
If you could photoshop some Haley-drawn blood
trickling down the side of both Granny-saur and Avery’s face, you’d get bonus points for your post
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by Chris McNally on Sep 13, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Eh
Those are definitely less Grandma/Lisa Loeb’ish, more Don Draper from “The Jet Set” episode of Mad Men.

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Cool
I hope he gets lots of ice time and takes off this year. It may be best to have him developing over there and help clarify the Islanders decisions next summer.
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by Dominik on Sep 13, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
More than next summer
He’s considered “defected” so they have until his mid-20s or so. (I’d have to check the CBA to get the exact age.)
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me too
I’m still secretly thinking this Kirill will be the more valueable one in some year’s time. However, it seems he’ll need to work hard to get that ice-time, only got 11 shifts and 10:00 TOI in this game. But hey, scoring twice sure helps to move up a bit.
Weird...damn WInterhawks
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 13, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by Hockey1919 on Sep 13, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
They are keeping him fresh for main camp
How many games do they play in Traverse City? I suppose more than Isle’s two.
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And the Earth-shattering lead story is...
Guy who doesn’t play for Islanders continues to not play for Islanders.
Gee, thanks, Newsday!
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by PGI on Sep 13, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Still looks like a subscription is needed
Or maybe its just me
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by themass on Sep 13, 2011 3:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think you need it (or mobile) for the blog
But not the regular stories.
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Game 2
What I expect to see:
1. Somebody needs to havea word with Mr. Randell
2. A better effort between the pipes. Opportunity is knocking…
3. I assume Rakh will eb held out for this one, so maybe Ullstrom between DiBo and Persson?
4. The announcement of a CAPTAIN… and the signing of Bailey before vet camp begins.
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Nilsson! Hooray! He looked so impressive in the prospects gm/competition. I can't wait to see him play tonight.
I’m expecting something magic in net tonight from him.
Bailey
Every time I think about that situation, I wonder if Snow is waiting for a just-in-case a GM gets ticked and one of the RFA D-men shakes loose.
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I wrote that in my Josh Bailey fanpost about a month ago
and everybody thought I was nuts. Guess Im just ahead of my time.
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by Chris McNally on Sep 13, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Or, at least, I still think you’re nuts (or a GM who deals Bogosion is nuts).
I still see it as remote; but if Snow has a sense one of his peers might panic, he might be waiting.
On the other hand, I don’t see a reasonable contract influencing Bailey’s dealability one way or the other. So I still say the more likely scenario is this is all on the agents, including Bailey’s. Snow may be waiting for other GMs to panic. But the agents may be waiting for the GMs to panic in a quite different way. I guess it’s all they can do when they have zero leverage.
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unwritten rule
“don’t mess with other teams RFAs” On the other hand if the GM’s play " Lets make a deal", that’s a different story. The Isle’s most likely can’t make it with an undersized just coming back fro injury back line they now have. They can make it without Bailey. Don’t be surprised by a deal.
All in the name of indentured servitude!
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Or as Friedman said in the CBC Sports article
The agents are all playing chicken since this is a favorable CBA for post-ECL contracts and they want to maximize before the next CBA.
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Tonight's roster and link to feed from team site
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 13, 2011 3:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Also
Sorry and I’m annoyed that these twitter links aren’t active anymore. I feel like they used to be…
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by Keith Quinn on Sep 13, 2011 3:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I suppose you hate New Coke too!
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Anybody notice how Klementyev played last night?
Saw him at the Bridge last season and thought he had potential…..skills were there, has size but seemed a little out of place in the North American rink. He was paired with Witt on some shifts that night.
Maybe another year has helped his development???
He was supposedly
coming out into his own with all the injuries last year, I think he was top pairing for a while before he got hurt.
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Went back to Russia for Funeral
isles gave him permission to attend funeral of the players that went down in the plane crash. Evidently he had a few buddies on that Lokimotiv team. believe he will be back before end of week.
I believe thats his hometown team. He was not only friends with them, he played with Locomotiv too and practices with those guys in the offseason. Poor kid.
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by TheMetalChick on Sep 13, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
So, so rough
And toiling over here in a strange land at a young age as a longshot pick. I just hope his head is in a good place amid all this.
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FIG Strome (Nino and de Haan) 4.20
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Sep 13, 2011 3:39 PM EDT reply actions
FIG Ullstrom (DiBenedetto) 6:41
That’s the spirit.
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FIG Kabanov (Persson, Kitchton) 2:42
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FIG Ray Romano (Ullstrom, deHaan) 6:31
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by Chris McNally on Sep 13, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
make that- FIG Ray Romano (Debra, Robert)
I just scored another Tuscan Dairy goal!
by Chris McNally on Sep 13, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
FIG Nino (Strome, Bidlevski)
Logic… Nino has arms like the branches on a FIG TREE. Strome will be out there with him, and hopefully Bidlevski will be out there with him on a good number of his shifts so that Randell doesn’t beat the crap out of him again.
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We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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They ripped it off last year...
a few weeks after WE started it they started doing it on FB… now they’re tweeting it.
There is no © on the FIG… but there’s is all dried and gooey… ours is fresh and goes well roasted with lamb.
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by JPinVA on Sep 13, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well...
when you play a TEAM sport you need more defined arms to be a WINNER…

…and she can’t even use them… except to carry her bag from the bus to the locker room.
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by JPinVA on Sep 13, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Came for the Hamm
Stayed for the Brandi.
/Letterman
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by Dominik on Sep 13, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
great line...
to describe one of the greatest moments in sports history…
7:11 of OT
US Hockey team in 1980
Bill Buckner
THE CATCH (sorry Endy, not yours)
Wide right
and Brandi rips her shirt off.
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Wait a minute
She has arms in that picture? Hadn’t noticed.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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actually
I think tonight is a very important game for many of these players
at some point some choices need to be made – and this group of players needs to be split into
those going back to juniors etc
those going to Bridgeport or your ECHL finalist K-Wings
those making the team
those being cut
am guessing Cap & Garth are approaching tonight’s game with an idea of who falls into each category and will use tonight’s game as a barometer to prove them wrong
Once again I stress that these games are far less important than you think.
A single game is not very big, or even two games, especially when they’re basically exhibitions, in the eyes of the team, who gets to see these players during practices. The team knows most of the info about these guys already. The play helps cement their views for sure, but they’ve had far more time than two games to look at each player to make their decisions.
The games are more important since we’re playing against non-Isles competition. But not THAT much.
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This may be a predictable sentiment, but.....
…..seems there’s been a lot of unfair heaping on Dono in the past several hours for sloppy defense (not visible? Thought he played well, if not fantastic; needs to develop his transition game somewhat but, overall, I’m very encouraged by what I saw from him, Ness and deHaan last night…..)
Oh, I'm sure he'll be fine
Just think he had an off/non-remarkable game is all. You need both a good day and opportunity to get noticed in a single prospect game.
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