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Will 2011 Bring the Mark Streit of Old?

In less than a month, Mark Streit will take the ice for the first Islanders practice of 2011.  He, more than any other Islander, has to be looking forward to that day, after being forced to miss the entire 2010-11 season with a shoulder injury.  There has been a lot of speculation in the LHH comments this offseason as to whether Streit will come back and be the Streit of old or if the injury will somehow have brought his game down a notch.

Obviously only time will tell, but to just assume he will or not is about as baseless as a major league hitter in the middle of an 0 for 50 slump (see what I did there!).  I know that all players are different but it could help to compare Streit's situation to a very similar situation in Edmonton in 2009-10, to star winger Alex Hemsky.

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25 games into the 09-10 season, Ales Hemsky pulled the plug on his season to have surgery to repair a torn labrum in his left shoulder.  Hemsky missed the final 57 games of the season, but was back and ready to start the 2010-11 season at full strength.  Hemsky was just as electric as he had been pre-surgery, scoring 14 goals and posting 42 points in 47 games before he went down with a right shoulder injury, ending his season.  Hemsky played so well that he was named to play in the 10-11 All-Star game (I realize he's on the Oilers but an All-Star is an All-Star).

I know there are some differences, mainly position and the fact that Streit is a left-handed shot coming off left shoulder surgery while Hemsky is a right-handed shot, but this still should be a positive sign for Streit and the Islanders.  While people have pointed to Streit's age, it should be pointed out that he came to North America very late in his career and had been playing 44 game seasons in Europe.  The fact that Streit was playing half seasons for a good portion of his career makes Mark Streit's body a lot younger than other 33 year olds in the NHL. If Hemsky, who is made of fine china, can come back showing no ill effects of major shoulder surgery, there's little doubt that Mark Streit can as well.

Reports have Streit looking good this offseason skating in Switzerland.  Let's hope these reports are correct because Garth Snow did absolutely nothing (although he did try) to sure up the blueline for the Islanders in 2011-12.  In my opinion, besides goaltending, Mark Streit and a return to form is the most important factor in determining if we will see the Islanders playing hockey come the second week in April next year.

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the good thing was he was extremely close to returning at the end of the season. He was probably in good shape and rested going into the off season. I would expect him to be in great shape now and playing well early

Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all

by Rickfansince76 on Aug 19, 2011 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

We can only hope. (I am hoping, btw)

Meanwhile, 4:31 a.m. man! Are you on the West Coast?

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Aug 19, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

No...worse

I work the midnight shift at a hotel, I’m just biding my time until I can transfer to the Marriott next to the coliseum. Then I can write better FanPosts when I get the inside scoop from opposing players after the game :)

I went to an Islanders Power Play and all I got was this broken stick

by Chris McNally on Aug 19, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That

Sounds like a plan.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Aug 19, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

300 bucks a night marriot?

I tried to book a room there for my trip there in November and couldn’t believe the prices. The cool part is I found out if i book the room and the flight together, the price for the room will be cut in hal
f.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Aug 20, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said yesterday, he isn’t a Brendan Witt 33

"Maybe (Frans) should concentrate more on FO rather than the thugging aspect of his game." - AP77
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.

by Mark D on Aug 19, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I agree, he's not that type of d-man, but most d-men begin to age stats/play wise around 33-36.

Sure he has played less games then the average nhler by now, but we also have to take the shoulder injury into account.

Do we have a list or any names of offensive d-men coming back from their main shoulder surgery/tear after the age of 30 to “maybe” gauge this?

by OzzyFan on Aug 19, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even if we did

You still have to consider that the Swiss league isn’t as rough as the NHL.

"Maybe (Frans) should concentrate more on FO rather than the thugging aspect of his game." - AP77
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.

by Mark D on Aug 19, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

20-25 Games to get his grove back.

Hopefully I’m wrong, but I see timing and adapting to Cappy’s system are major factors for a slow start.

by O.Bender on Aug 19, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

On the bright side for Ales
Hemsky, who is made of fine china

At least it’s fine China. I think.

by kfallon2 on Aug 19, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

It couldve been poor china

I went to an Islanders Power Play and all I got was this broken stick

by Chris McNally on Aug 19, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

With all of Hemsky's injuries

and the point I made on Streit’s age above, its very plausible to say Hemsky’s body is just as, if not older than Streit’s. And I don’t think the worry for Streit is if he’s going to lose some MPH’s off his slapshot or hurt himself taking one. It’s not like we’re talking about a pitcher who has shoulder surgery and then throws 100 pitches a game. The danger probably lies more in taking a big hit and reinjuring the shoulder.

I went to an Islanders Power Play and all I got was this broken stick

by Chris McNally on Aug 19, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was thinking it was an interesting comparison

Because Hemsky has taken a lot of abuse (playing on crappy teams, not shying from contact), and the question is more about can the shoulder recover, etc.

The wrong hit is indeed the danger. So keep Moulson away from him!

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Aug 19, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's all about the folcrum

I remember an old SportsChannel clip with Ed Westfall talking about generating power for a shot.

He said that the left hand for a “left-handed” shooter is the rotation point – folcrum – and all power in the shot is created by the right arm.

by jonny4gets on Aug 19, 2011 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

We talking slapper or wrister or both?

I’m sure a lot of the power comes from the body, but the main(left for a lefty) shoulder has to be a lot in play here.

by OzzyFan on Aug 19, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

in his two seasons Streit had 38 and 40 assists. I’m not so worried about his shot, worst case pair him up with Jurcina.

"Maybe (Frans) should concentrate more on FO rather than the thugging aspect of his game." - AP77
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.

by Mark D on Aug 19, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

But how many of his assists have come off of slapshot rebounds?

It’s not like that if his shoulder is noticably weaker that he’s still gonna be expected to knock down 45pts seasons. That is if it’s weaker though, so who knows till we see him in action.

by OzzyFan on Aug 20, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im not worried

I have had left shoulder problems, and I am a left handed shot. I had surgery on my left shoulder and the labrum was fixed. When I started playing again it felt the same as before the surgery. People have been worried that he might not be able to take the hitting or still have the bomb of a shot, but for me I experienced none of those problems. I had different injuries than Streit, but I am not worried that he wont be the same player

by nyidangle17 on Aug 19, 2011 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Streit agrees

Below are some parts of a recent interview of a Swiss newspaper with Mark Streit. I was too lazy to translate and just used Google translate instead. As always, it sounds a bit funny, but most things should hopefully be clear – if not, just leave a comment here and I can clarify.

What is it for an ice hockey player, not have played a game for 16 months for a feeling?
At the moment it seems to me not as if I had not played for so long. I feel like every August on the ice very well. The summer was just like everyone else. But the time before that was tough. I had withdrawal symptoms. I had previously thought it impossible that I could miss an entire year. I had never been seriously injured. And then I fell stupid in the gang, and then it happened. Man injured, is shocked, but eventually you have to accept that and look forward.

Did you have to learn patience in this time?
I am an impatient person. But if you are injured, one is left nothing else. The doctor told me the same, as it stands, I’d probably miss the entire season. I could not tell the simple to the media.

Why not?
It was so decided by the club. At the end, when we were still in playoff close, I almost have intervened. If we had come within three or four points to a playoff berth, I would have played. But then came at the wrong moment, two, three defeats, and it was no longer realistic. The injury was a big challenge for me physically and mentally. For that I have enjoyed other things. I was grateful that she left me in December to spend in Switzerland. I was the first time in a long time to celebrate Christmas with my parents and my sister.

Have you discovered during your injury lay-off a new hobby?
This was no time. During the rehabilitation time you spend even more time than usual at the stadium There were long days. I had physical therapy, ice training, rehabilitation training. In February and March, I trained extremely hard. In the summer I played tennis and golf, as always, often went up and down and go fishing. These are the three hobbies, with whom I can spend whole days.

The wear is huge in the NHL. Were you able to recover through the rest?
Absolutely. Not just my shoulder could recover, the whole body and the mind. In the last six years I had a big burden, and mentally. The break has done me good. I am convinced that I still have a lot of hockey in me. And at a high level. I am fit and have trained well and always lived scrupulously. In the NHL 33 is no age. Mark Recchi has won the Stanley Cup with 42. Nicklas Lidstrom is 41 and has won the Norris Trophy again for the best defender. These are role models for me. That I find my way. Especially since I’ve realized how much I miss the sport.

What do you most miss?
Everything. The game itself, the thrill, the tension before the match. The challenge to compete against the best. The close games if you do not know on which side it tips over. The pressure. The team lives to go with the guys on an away trip. The night before, to eat together. Many think at 33, 34, they would have seen it slowly. I feel as if I were just beginning.

You recommended Jeff Tambellini Zurich’s sporting director Edgar Salis. Why?
I have a good relationship with Edgar, we call each other often. I told him, Tambellini is one, which you must get. The gates can shoot for miles. When I played for the Islanders with him, I quickly realized that he would be ideal for Swiss hockey. And he is also good in character.

What is your greatest strength?
Persistence. I was never one who excelled equally. I needed more time to get used to the people to level, coaches, teammates. I am the woodpecker, the einhackt incessantly and persistently on the tree comes to its destination. Has always driven me the joy of sports. And my parents have been major factors. If I was devastated, they built me. They were always there for me when it went bad. And if it went well, they made sure that I did not took off. My father always said, pride goes before a fall. I have a very strong bond with the family. Therefore, August is always a difficult month for me.

What do you mean?
In the last few weeks before I fly to North America, with me always a certain restlessness, nervousness is there. I’m still here, but no longer correct. I am happy again hockey, but privately it is hard. It hurts to say goodbye to for eight or nine months of family and friends to leave behind his environment. Many of flirting with foreign countries. But talking about it and doing it are two completely different things.

What do you expect in your third-season Islanders? The team flourished in the second half of last season on – a good sign?
The conditions are really good. But it is important that the guys continue to make progress. Grabner, Tavares, Nielsen, Moulson, Comeau, MacDonald, Hamonic: These are good, talented players. We have talent and a lot of bite. But the consistency will be crucial.

The Islanders behaved passively in the summer in the transfer market. Were you disappointed with that?
The aim was to strengthen us at certain points. Players like Christian Ehrhoff and James Wisniewski have anywhere else to get such highly paid contracts I had not given them as a GM. We have a core of players, which was built in the last two or three years. The chemistry of the team is right. The strategy now is to let the boys do sometimes, is good.

What do you think your Swiss teammate Nino Niederreiter to?
His goal is a regular place. He will have grown physically safe in the summer. He will be there at the beginning, and then it is to fight him to a seat. We have a good rapport with each other, I will certainly support him. He should not put too much pressure. He is only 19th But with him I have a good feeling. He is a down to earth and ambitious boy.

You are the face of the advertising campaign for the Islanders season tickets. Is this an indicator that you will be captain?
I do not know. It has, of course, flattered me. I would love to be captain, it would be a nice challenge. But if I am, I see in a month. One thing is clear: There will be a new captain because Doug Weight has resigned.

by BenHasna on Aug 20, 2011 3:10 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Great Find-Thanks

But man, this is a little disappointing. I assume “And then I fell stupid in the gang, and then it happened” is supposed to read “And then I stupidly fell in with a gang, and then it happened.” I had no idea Streit was into that kind of stuff. For all the people calling for him to be captain, this should give you pause.

Of course you never know what might be lost in translation. I guess “gang” could just mean the Islanders, since they are a bunch of thuggish brutes who love to celebrate the times they curbed their opponents all summer long.

by afrosupreme on Aug 20, 2011 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

:-)

Google translate is always good for a laugh.
Bande, in this specific case, means boards. He stupidly fell into the boards.

by Francesca on Aug 20, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Great find. Thanks BenHasna.

Seems Streit is doing everything we want and hoped out of an nhl player mentally and physically. Nice.

by OzzyFan on Aug 20, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mark is currently training with SC Bern

Joining him on the ice are also Jonas Hiller (ANA), Roman Josi (NSH) and Yannick Weber (MTL).
Swiss TV went for a visit at Bern’s training facilities.
SF.tv sometimes uses geoblocking, so I uploaded the videos on youtube.
video 1
video 2 (similar to the first)

In a nutshell:

  • Swiss NLA starts September 8, so the ice training sessions are already of high intensity at the beginning of August. This allows him to be at a higher level than many other players at the beginning of training camp.
  • Goals of the trainings are finding the rhythm and getting back the condition (shape)
  • SC Bern’s coach Larry Huras is happy Mark is there and gushes about he quality of his passing.
  • He can’t wait for the next season. Islanders are a young, very talented team with some good veterans. The objective is to make the playoffs this season and he hopes someday to win the Stanley Cup.
  • His personal goal is to regain the same level of play as before the injury. He already feels good and is surprised how good everything is going. He does’t have any concerns and looks ahead.
    “Playing hockey is like riding a bike, you can’t unlearn it!”

by Francesca on Aug 20, 2011 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

From his lips to God's ears...

We really need Mark healthy!

In loving memory;Dad thanks for making us Islanders fans, ACC 1918-2011

by bossy2219 on Aug 21, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

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