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Turning Points in New York Islanders History: Milbury Fires Darcy Regier

I try not to dwell on the Milburian era because it's old news and it was torture enough at the time, so apologies for that ahead of time.

However, this came up in the GM tree posted at Copper & Blue (where the finest GM of them all is pictured in the kind of tie I can never pull off), so it had me digging for the exact date.

On Dec. 27, 1996, history was made [Daily News]. Little did we know how much the future of the franchise shifted:

Mike Milbury took another step yesterday toward making himself the undisputed top dog of the Islanders when he fired assistant general manager Darcy Regier, the longtime organization man who had been beaten out by Milbury for the general manager's position a year ago.

"He has been a valued employe of this organization; however, we were unable to fully agree on an organizational philosophy," Milbury said of Regier in a press release. "I respect the contributions he has made to the franchise, and wish him the best of luck."

Milbury later said the biggest problem between him and Regier, who had been assistant GM under Don Maloney, was an "uncomfortable" working relationship between the two after Milbury was named GM Dec. 12, 1995.

Star-divide

Of course the promoted Milbury (he started out as the Islanders coach but was given the GM title to to replace Don "Must Go" Maloney a year before parting with Regier) would have to deal with his share of ownership messes in his first five years on the job. But I think we all know what came of Milbury and what came of Regier.

Interestingly, Regier has been a pretty astute small-budget manager for the Sabres over the years -- I've actually never trusted him less than I do now, having seen him burn through his Terry Pegula surplus on things like a six-year, $4.5 million AAV deal for Ville Leino and a massive commitment to Christian Ehrhoff that reportedly far exceeded* what the Islanders were offering.

* Reports have Ehrhoff wooed by the "chance at a Cup" Buffalo offers, and that may be all well and good, but something tells me an extra $17 million and the chance to walk away with most of that money three years before the contract expires were larger factors.

Anyway, for years Regier managed the Sabres pretty wisely while under severe financial restraints, whether from a would-be-crook cable operator owner (Crook owners in telecom? Never!) or in the bankruptcy and age of austerity that followed. It helps to have Ryan Miller, and to score in trades with "good era" Daniel Briere and Chris Drury, but all in all Regier showed a patience and level head in Buffalo that Milbury ... found wanting on Long Island.

Odd then, that he would basically burn through the Pegula dividend entirely in one summer, without holding any dry powder for when Leino proves to be not all that the unpredictable happens.

 

Peca - Connolly: In Which Former Awkward Colleagues Swap Their Problems

Regier and Milbury actually consummated a major, pivotal trade between the two teams, one that probably made the 2001-02 playoff run possible for the Isles and the 2006 playoff run much better for the Sabres. It's fascinating that while this trade represents conservative (and handcuffed) Regier and "I Can't Believe This Teen Isn't A Veteran Yet" Milbury in their natural elements, that trade ended up both hurting and helping each team (which I guess makes it a good trade): Michael Peca immediately gave the Islanders what they wanted, but was felled by injuries; Tim Connolly eventually gave the Sabres what they wanted (briefly), before succumbing to injuries, too. (I'll always believe Connolly was finally "getting it" during that 2006 playoff run when he suffered yet another, jarring concussion.)

Anyway, the point is it's 2011 and when this came up the other day I realized that some younger Islanders fans might not know or remember that detail: Milbury, who has been a talking head on TV since ending his association with the franchise he steered like a 14-year-old driving a Camaro through traffic, once fired Regier, who has been GM in Buffalo for an almost unbelievably long tenure.

Neither has a Cup from their GM tenure -- and honestly, neither ever really had the resources to get one -- but it's always a thought-provoking bit of trivia to think that the Islanders once passed on Regier (who had been in the organization since the Bill Torrey days) to give Mike Milbury a promotion.

 

Moving On Then...

Of course, that was in the Gang of Four era of Islanders ownership (Hey! Only half the four have been arrested!), who themselves came before the fraudulent John Spano, which is all part of an ownership history that few who slag off the Islanders bother to recall or research. So describing some of these moves as "the Islanders did X" is almost an insult to all the people who have busted their tails to actually uphold the pride on which the club was founded and ultimately won four Cups, 19 consecutive playoff series, and a few other things that practically created their own wing in the Hall of Fame.

By the looks of things, venue uncertainty aside (ed. Wait. That's an ASIDE?!) we're past that ugliness now ... even if the league's peanut gallery depicts gathering to watch a 9-3 victory as some sort of crime against humanity. So enjoy the watch party tonight, which has been modified to watch the Grabner hat trick OT win over the Sabres instead.

And maybe sneak in an iPhone clip of Micheal Haley turning Kris Letang around and making Brent Johnson look silly into the party to remind people that game would've rocked even if there were zero PIM.

P.S. Man, I hate it when innocent conversations dig this stuff back up. (This post is not sponsored by Chivas, but it might as well be.)

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Wasn’t the major disagreement that Milbury wanted to draft Alexandre Volchkov while Regier wanted to draft JP Dumont?

And Ville Leino was completely unnecessary. I’d have rathered we just didn’t spend that money at all.

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To make up for lost time, the Sabres signed six seasons worth of front-loaded cap skirting contracts in one week.

by Ubiquitous on Aug 19, 2011 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I honestly think that the Sabres knew they weren’t getting Richards and just decided to go with another “splash.” I like Leino, don’t get me wrong. Just don’t think he’s worth that deal.

by Philaster on Aug 19, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

When did Darcy Regier become Glen Sather?

Seems these small market GMs go nuts once they get money and can’t spend it fast enough. Although I’m thinking Regier was told by Pegula to go out and make a splash.

Nassau Coliseum lost a veteran and an original Islander fan. ACC 1918-2011

by Hockey1919 on Aug 19, 2011 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone didn't do their homework

Off topic, but did anyone else see the ESPN’s prestigious Insider preseason report on the Senators? Guess who they choose as the “trending down” player for this upcoming season. Nope, Ryan Shannon. I love the last line: “The likelihood that Shannon ends up in the top-five for GVT on this team in 2011-12 is pretty low.” Yes, it is.

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Aug 19, 2011 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

It was actually

some Hockey Prospectus guys that wrote it. You wonder if they finished it before he signed with TB, because they are usually pretty good. Still have to wonder how it got published though.

by afrosupreme on Aug 19, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just a note

But didn’t Milbury get a ridiculous amount of money to coach the Islanders? I think he might have been the highest paid coach in the league at the time. People always thought the deal was a “Well come and coach the team, but we really want you to be GM”

"Maybe (Frans) should concentrate more on FO rather than the thugging aspect of his game." - AP77
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by Mark D on Aug 19, 2011 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

GM in waiting

It always had that whiff to it, especially after the Muller fiasco. Don’t know what the real story is. It was always impossible to know who the hell was making what decision in those days.

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by Dominik on Aug 19, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Peca was the only thing Milbury did right.

For every Bertuzzi, Chara, Luongo, Jokkinen, etc he gave away…He brought in Blake, Bates…yeah cant think of anyone else.

He should be thrown into an on coming train. On the bright side, look at it this way…if we had have kept all those players…we’d be coming out of a possible successful run and rebuilding regardless hahaha

by mdesarmo on Aug 19, 2011 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

he also hit the lotto

On Hunter, Martinek and Campoli

"Maybe (Frans) should concentrate more on FO rather than the thugging aspect of his game." - AP77
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by Mark D on Aug 19, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Campoli

That’s like winning a scratch-off ticket for $2.

I mean, you’re happy you won, but it just doesn’t matter…

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by Fabtraption on Aug 19, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesnt count as a lotto win if you give the ticket away before you collect

Hopefully Hamonic can be the lotto win we hold on to and cash in on!

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Aug 23, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

coulda sworn he swung the deal to get us Aucoin for next to nothing

by nullzero00 on Aug 19, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I might be wrong

but I think Aucoin was holding out, he thought he was a top 4 dman and wanted more money.

Aucoin was Traded from Tampa Bay Lightning with Alexander Kharitonov to New York Islanders for Mathieu Biron and round 2 pick in the 2002 draft

Although Biron wasn’t nearly worth what he was, he was a former first rounder.

"Maybe (Frans) should concentrate more on FO rather than the thugging aspect of his game." - AP77
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by Mark D on Aug 19, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Turns out Aucoin was right!

I was shocked by how good he turned out. Guy could skate for hours…must’ve been on the Lance Armstrong diet.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Aug 19, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Diet or...

…supplements? Either is as likely as the other.

:)

by pennst92 on Aug 20, 2011 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fort Leavenworth

Mr. Dom.

I gave my presentation to some soldiers here on leadership at Fort Leavenworth, KS. The Al Arbour example went great. Thanks for the comments. But what I wanted
to share is this. I went to the new arena (Sprint) in the area. I went out a few nights in the area also(Chiefs and Royals games). I talked to some of the local fans about hockey. In my opinion, I cnt imagine a hockey team moving to this area.

I still have nightmares of Milbury.

by BattFist on Aug 19, 2011 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Good to hear!

Hey, if you don’t mind, what was the occasion at Ft. Leavenworth? (If there was one.)

Can’t imagine a hockey team because the support just isn’t there, I assume.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Aug 19, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

Leadership Program. Teaching the soldiers and civilians on different leadership styles, learning styles, conflict management… standard training.

It was my first trip…I had to give a presentation on leadership styles.

by BattFist on Aug 19, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cool

(Reason for my being nosy: I loosely do some business with military education, and that’s one of the sites, though I haven’t been there.)

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Aug 19, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spano

This article was printed not to long after the Spano crisis?

does anyone know if there are any interviews with John Spano before and after the incident?

The will is inside.

by JBarreraUSA on Aug 19, 2011 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I do remember

Spano trying his best to fire Milbury or force him to resign. Milbury admitted it was so bad at the time that he only stayed with the job because he wanted to be able to afford his kids.

"Maybe (Frans) should concentrate more on FO rather than the thugging aspect of his game." - AP77
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.

by Mark D on Aug 19, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Before Spano

It went down before Spano.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Aug 19, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

NICE!!! SPIT UP MY COFFEE

In loving memory;Dad thanks for making us Islanders fans, ACC 1918-2011

by bossy2219 on Aug 20, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

It would have been interesting to see Regier’s vision for the Islanders. I think having spent so much time in the organization, he had a clear idea of what to do.
He didn’t come into the best situation in Buffalo either – with Nolan and Hasek at each other’s throats and Larry Quinn about to flame out for the first time. But he handled it admirably even though it alienated a lot of fans when he fired Nolan.
Pretty amazing that within 2 years of Regier taking over the Sabres went to the Cup final with Peca as the first line center, no less.

by Philaster on Aug 19, 2011 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Hasek was a pre-madonna.

Say what you want but Dom is a “somewhat” overrated goaltender. (This s not pointed at you Philaster)

The will is inside.

by JBarreraUSA on Aug 19, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prima donna

But haha, that made me laugh.

I guess a pre-Madonna would be this?

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by Fabtraption on Aug 19, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ho-ly...

Papa, don’t preach.

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by Dominik on Aug 19, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just curious

how you peg Hasek as overrated? I think for a period there he might have played the position better than anyone in history.

by afrosupreme on Aug 19, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is one trade that leads to a history i like

03/08/06: NYI trade RW Mark Parrish & D Brent Sopel to LA for LW Jeff Tambellini, D Denis Grebeshkov and a conditional 3rd round pick in 2006(dependant on LA making 2006 playoffs. They didn’t qualify).

after reading Dom’s article the other day, realizing Grebeshkov was later turned into Hamonic and Petrov through another series of weird transactions…not that it matters but just interesting sometimes to follow an “asset” from start to finish…acquiring Lafontaine and asset trade history is another favourite.

by CanadianIsleslifer on Aug 20, 2011 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

rec'd

deep, but finally can see light at end of tunnel, with only a little more patience.

by CanadianIsleslifer on Aug 20, 2011 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

It’s unbelievable the things that we’ve gone through as fans of this team. Hell, some fans are so traumatized they’ve taken to defending Spano as someone who cared! (That actually happened to me on Twitter a couple of weeks ago)

Every point you made is 100% accurate – though the thing that in my mind made the Gluckstern/Milstein group transcendent was the $800 million Milstein bid for the Redskins while at the same time crying poverty and asking Nassau to build him a new arena. It’s actually funny, they wanted what Katz seems to want in Edmonton: a publicly-funded arena AND development rights for the property. Pigs at the trough indeed….

But then again, when have things like “context” ever come into play when it’s so easy to write a paint-by-numbers hit piece on the Islanders? I’ve learned to program and I’m thinking seriously about hacking an “Islanders Hit Piece MadLib” site.

by Nick (LetThereBeLighthouse) on Aug 20, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

A Madlibs Site

Would be amazing and fun.

I feel like Brooks has been using one for years.

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent Paul Kraus.

by PGI on Aug 20, 2011 11:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Regier didn’t do to well when his owner was a criminal, either, but he at least managed to get some prospects back when he was told to sell off the whole team.

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To make up for lost time, the Sabres signed six seasons worth of front-loaded cap skirting contracts in one week.

by Ubiquitous on Aug 22, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, well done!

Alas, Cox is unteachable.

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by Dominik on Aug 24, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Turning Points" indeed.

Regier was raised an Islander and as a Devellano protege, everyone assumed he was being groomed as future and long-time Islander G.M. Once Pickett sold, all bets were off and the procession of ownership scoundrels began, Then, when Maloney and M-M-M – I have a hard time even saying the name – Milbury – joined the picture, Regier’s career path was sidetracked and the whole freakin future of the team got derailed. Dwelling on bad memories is a collosal waste of time for me, even when it’s “only” about sports, and it’s especially painful when the name M-M-M … Milbury is involved, but I can’t help but wonder how different the last 15 years would have been if back then someone would have the good sense to stay the course with Regier. No GM in any sport achieves long term success without making some mistakes, but Regier was a very capable and steady hand and he was supposed to be The Man here for a long time. I suspect that his career and this team’s recent past would boast some big time glory had all those assclowns not gotten in the way in the 90’s.

by dose on Aug 20, 2011 8:09 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

OK

all well said and researched…….so how long do we give Snow till we are really to throw him into the fire……….5 more years till a real live contender every year ?

by WRANGLERICK on Aug 20, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd say another 2 - 3 years

to see whether we have a real contender. Remember, Snow took a team in absolute shambles in 2006 and built up one of the deepest prospect pools in five years. Sure, some would say that drafting in the bottom 5 for the past four years takes absolutely no skill whatsoever, but it’s finding diamonds in the rough like Hamonic, Poulin, Kabanov, Lee, etc. that takes real skill as a GM. The future’s bright for this team, so I’d say Snow has a few more years before you can determine whether he’s succeeded or failed as a GM.

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by Fabtraption on Aug 20, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

COOL

2 to 3 years is acceptable to me but Im going to give it 5. Youre right, hes in a good position at the top 10 draft picks for years and you gotta find those gems at 59, 124 and so on……let the games begin !

by WRANGLERICK on Aug 20, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

There was no better trade in the Regier era in Buffalo...

…than a barely noticable one he made early in his career with the team.

Buffalo trades D Mike Wilson to
Florida for D Rhett Warrener and a 5th round draft choice.

Wilson was unspectacular for the Panthers and was out of the game in two years. Warrener became the core of the Sabres defense for five seasons when he was packaged to Calgary as part of the deal for Chris Drury who immediately became Captain Clutch and helped lead the team to two consecutive EC finals.

Oh, the fifth round pick? Some college goaltender named Miller.

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by Calvert on Aug 23, 2011 8:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Ah

Gotta love trivial jewels like that. Thanks.

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by Dominik on Aug 24, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

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