Evgeni Nabokov Might Be The NHL's Most Overrated Goalie
Heading into this season, both professional writers and fans keep up the mantra that with Evgeni Nabokov in net the Islanders are going to be better. That finally the Islanders fans prayers for goaltending consistency are answered. It seems to ignore the reality of how Nabokov became an Islander. Nabokov took the money and ran to the KHL when it was apparent no one was going to overpay for a mid-30s goaltender who had average numbers at best. Nabokov then flamed out and came back to America, suddenly willing to take a pay cut to play with a contender. We all know how that worked out.
It's plain and simple, people are ignoring even the simplest stats that point to it just about being over for Nabokov. It's actually not a new story limited to his recent struggles in the KHL and at the World Championships. I can't blame those Shark fans who were eager to see him go. Not just for his playoff struggles, but his questionable level of play in the regular season too. The Sharks have been one of the elite teams in the league for a few years now, and it looks like they might have helped Nabokov more then he helped them.
A Tale of Two Nabokovs
Interestingly Nabokov got a chance with the Sharks because they wanted to keep from rushing blue chip prospect Miikka Kiprusoff. Another name that enters the scene is Vesa Toskala. All three players early careers intertwine until 03-04 (Kiprusoff traded) and 06-07 (Toskala traded). From 00-01 to 03-04 (basically pre-lockout) Nabokov puts up a .915 (00-01), .918 (01-02), .906 (02-03) and .921 (03-04) (RFA contract year) save percentages in order. Miikka meanwhile had a .915 (01-02) and a .879 (02-03). Toskala put up a .927 (02-03), .930 (03-04), .901 (05-06) .908 (06-07).
The Two Nabokovs? He was obviously putting up better numbers before the season canceled by the lockout. While 3 of 4 seasons pre-lockout his SV% was .915 or better, he only managed one .915 SV% or better season post lockout. He's also only had 2 seasons in which he had a .920 SV% or better, both of them before he became a free agent. It's pretty obvious that two things make Nabokov thrive, money or competition.
The KHL and The 2011 World Cup
So it shouldn't be too surprising to find out that in the KHL last year, as the starter and making an incredible amount of money on a 4 year contract didn't work out too well. Nabokov finished 45th out of 57 KHL goalies last year in SV%. It wasn't just the team, Jakub Stepanek who took over for Nabokov had a .923 SV% and Maxim Sokolov who took over the backup role had a .904 SV% compared to Nabokov's .888.
As bad as that might look, it's even worse when you consider some of the other goalies who had a better SV% in the KHL last season. Erik Ersberg who was last seen backing up our favorite brother in law was .001 behind the league leader in SV%. The legendary 45 year old Dominik Hasek had a .915 SV%. Yann Danis playing in his first KHL season had a .910 SV%. Steve Valiquette and Robert Esche both had an .897 SV%. Scott Munroe had a .896 SV%. All of these players had a better season then Nabokov, yet I don't think any sportswriter would proclaim the Islanders goalie situation saved if they had been signed.
This wasn't just a blip on the radar either. In the World Championships Nabokov proceeded to again struggle. His SV% was in the bottom 10 of the tournament. While at least Al Montoya has the excuse that he was hurt, from all reports Nabokov should have been healthy and prepared (the Islanders gave him clearance to practice). His replacement, Konstantin Barulin, managed a .908 SV% in comparison to Nabokov's .880. Reportedly his coach didn't think he could pull Nabokov, and was happy when he went down hurt.
In Conclusion
Nabokov is stuck. He burnt all of his bridges in Russia. He can't get out of a contract now in which he's barely making the league minimum. But there's nothing about his play in the last year that says he's going to suddenly turn it around. His .922 SV% was an outlier, quite possibly due to the team more then him. Antti Niemi who replaced him as the full time starter in San Jose managed to post a .920 SV% which was an .008 improvement from his previous year with the Stanley Cup champions.
Nabokov's best years were when he was younger, fighting for a job with Miika and Toskala. At his age, no one will give him more then a one year contract (due to him being 35+) or the big money he's looking for in the NHL. There's nothing to believe that he has any of his old drive to be a full time starter again. Especially not when he's making less then a million dollars this season.
The best bet for the Islanders is to protect him in preseason, giving him easy competition and the better defenseman. Then hope that another team has a goalie go down, or is suddenly desperate for a "starter" while having cap issues. Nabokov's value is much better as a piece that get's us something for the future, than a goalie who will lead us to be competitive now.
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Yikes
Nabokov is nothing but jail (trade) bait if he has any value at all. Looks like we are going into the season with a three headed hydra at net until Nabby either ships up or is shipped out.
I wish we could package him for a defenseman but that is a big wish.
A big wish
I doubt too many teams will need a goalie like Nabby at the beginning of the season; and if they realize he is bad in preseason then we won’t get much out of him.
All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.
by pippup on Aug 13, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dont the Oilers need a Goalie?
Last time i checked all they had was Khabibulin. And also last time i checked, he wasnt very good
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That true
But do they have any defensemen that they are willing to trade that would be useful to us?
All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.
Ryan whitney maybe?
Or maybe we get another go around with Sutton
"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992
Actually Sutton signed with the Oilers
But I don’t think that is what you had in mind.
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Sorry Raw Charge...
still miss him.
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by IslanderDoug on Aug 13, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I do not think Isles should DEPEND on...
…Nabokov as the starter, but (a) he was, at one time a good NHL goalie and (b) he is only 36 (not that old for a goalie). I think there is the odd chance he could be a good starter for Isles and a very good chance he will be a good backup for the Isles. I still like Montoya as the starter, but things can change a lot with goalies from year to year. Who knows, perhaps one of the Nordics will end up claiming an NHL spot this season.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Aug 13, 2011 1:58 PM EDT reply actions
Really good article, WebBard.
I agree with you on pretty much everything.
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I wish the NHL went back to the old semicircle crease shape as seen above. The current shape still looks wrong.
Quite sobering news.
Nice perspective Webby… hopefully it will be followed by a piece on Poulin’s miraculous recovery to 100%.
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Thanks for voting "YES" on Aug 1st... just not enough of you!!!
I’ve been working on a Poulin piece forever, I’ll try to bump it up and get it out soon.
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Does anyone think we should trade him before he has a chance ti flop?
by Torch7 on Aug 13, 2011 5:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
No one
Is going to trade for him before seeing him back on NHL ice IMHO
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The Red Wings were going to sign him and he hasn't even had a chance to play since then so there's no reason
to think that there isn’t interest in him. Also a few other teams were going to claim him off of waivers if the Isles didn’t. WebBard is right about the facts of Nabokov’s performance but the facts suggest he’s wrong about the perception of Nabokov.
He had a chance with the Isles. What I meant was that he hasn’t played since then so there’s been nothing to change people’s opinions of him since then.
World Championships
He was really awful.
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- before he was signed by the Wings, he hadn’t played at the WCs
- Most teams have since shored up their goaltending via FA
- the Wings were desperate for any Vet backup who they could also fit under the cap.
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I'm sorry but if ANYONE is hoping Nabokov should be the starter
then I’m disappointed. The first half of the season should belong to Al Montoya, with (unfortunately) Rick DiPietro sprinkled in. Montoya earned at least a half of a season as the starter with the job he did when we were in DIRE need of anyone to be our goalie. And not only did he come in and plug the hole, he ran with it. His play earned himself a contract and, at least, my respect. When Nabokov was crying about not wanting to be an Islander, Montoya embraced it. I realize the guy didn’t have much choice if he wanted to be an NHL goalie, but really neither did Nabokov, and he turned up his nose at it. Should Montoya completely shit the bed through the first half of the season then maybe his ship sails and we see Poulin up here.
Long story short, I think Nabokov should be DP’s practice stand in and that is all.
I went to an Islanders Power Play and all I got was this broken stick
Montoya
has earned a starting opportunity. Well put C614.
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by IslanderDoug on Aug 13, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Hold on
the guy isn’t even the most overrated goalie on the Isles-how could he be #1 in the league?
I agree his greatest value ultimately is probably as a trade chip, but he’s not going to earn that status in the preseason. And that’s the rub. If he plays well enough to be worth something on the trade market, he’s probably playing well enough to put us in playoff contention. Do you really move him at that point?
A lot of people want to hand him the starting job
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Aside from the headline
I’d say that’s actually a good article that overlaps pretty well with what you wrote.
I don’t disagree at all with:
I’m not just talking about training camp, either; they should give Nabokov every chance to earn the starting job. If the Islanders really want to justify the murmurs that they could be a dark horse candidate for a playoff run next season, it’s hard to imagine them getting there with Al Montoya and Rick DiPietro as their starting duo.
As good as Montoya was last year I have more doubts than confidence regarding him. He leaves out Poulin, which might be smart for the Isles to do as well coming off that injury.
And he’s right in line with a lot of what you wrote here
Many smart hockey people have wondered if Nabokov’s impressive career numbers came largely because of strong support from some exceptional San Jose Sharks teams, so carrying the Isles to the playoffs would make a heck of an impact on his legacy. It would be an unlikely and delightful underdog story if it actually worked out.
I’m pro-Nabokov in the sense that I’d like to see him get a real shot to win the job and that deep down I think he probably gives the team the best chance to win this year. I also thinks he offers the quickest route to DP at BP which I think has to happen for this team to move forward.
I’m at fault on that one for reading the headline and skimming most of the article.
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Yea
the headline is awfully misleading. But you’re right, that sentiment is out there, while the reality is it’s probably going to be a legitimate competition for both (maybe three) spots. It would be difficult to come up with a convincing preseason ranking of the four goalies, but hopefully it gets figured out sooner than later during the season.
Yay
People are " murmur[ing]" that we “could be a dark horse candidate for a playoff run next season”!! Finally some respect!!
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Aug 13, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Goal
Our weakest position and the most important singular player on the team. Nabokov is a loser, Poulin is coming off a very serious injury. Montoya coming off a short campaign and injury. DP [………] you fill in the blank. Summary, if we have serious interest in even competing for the play-offs, then Snow had better make an early deal for a #1 goalie before we have an early season losing streak. Our goals against is our biggest problem. A top 4 big D will help but the puck and the buck stops at the goal mouth.
I'm curious why Snow didn't see Vokoum as an option.
Maybe Vokoum didn’t see us as an option, but money talks, unless he wanted to win now.
This IS the year.
I think everyone is underselling Montoya. I know he had a short stint, but he only had 5 games in which he had a SV% worse then .900 and of those games the Isles went 2-3.
In the games in which he faced over 30 shots he was 3-6, but 4 of those losses went to OT.
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Just curious
What was his save percentage in those games of 30+ shots?
"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992
From highest number of shots to lowest
.907
.921
.947
.861 – gave up 5 goals, 3 of which were PPG and 1 SHG
.914
.914
1.000
.941
.971
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That comes around to around .930 i think
Now thats what i like to see :) Its always better to have that goalie that can really hunker down on those nights where theyre just gonna get shelled.
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This post will negatively affect Nabokov's trade value
with it’s salient points.
DAMN YOU!
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by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on Aug 14, 2011 4:09 AM EDT reply actions
When Your Goaltending is This Bad/Unsettled, Anybody Can Earn the Job
Wide open competition. No favorites. Absolutely no more Ricky’s just “shaking off the rust.” No more “this guy needs more years in Bridgeport.” Open training camp with everyone equal, best guy wins on how they play. Second guy backs up. Next guy goes to the AHL or gets another address. If Nabokov comes in and plays the best, he starts opening night. And although I was inclined to boo the guy, if he’s here, works hard, plays, and plays well, I’ll root for him while he’s wearing the laundry.

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