Islanders Acquire Brian Rolston
Send Trent Hunter and a Conditional pick to Jersey.
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This deal adds 3 Million in Salary towards the floor, and I’d take Rolston any day of the week over Hunter. Also Rolston is a UFA at the end of the season.
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I agree
This is definitely a win for Garth. Rolston comes in healthy, can help the PP, the Isles get closer to the cap floor, and have the guy signed for only one season.
Trent didn’t project to be in the club’s plans for long-term and we have plenty of 3rd/4th line prospects who can replace his production. I’m for it.
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Rolston adds a shot from the point that won't rocket off the glass.
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by Hockey1919 on Jul 28, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
GOOD POINT!
As much as I like Hamonic, and think he’ll develop into a good PP point man, he has trouble getting shots through to the goal at times on the PP. Doesn’t hurt to have insurance for Streit (shoulder).
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 28, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not too sure about that “won’t rocket off the glass” part.
by undersuspicion426 on Jul 28, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
For $5M he beeter put it through the glass if he ain't accurate. Rolston has at least been accurate enough to use it in the shootout.
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Botta's reaction
Isles so desperate to reach cap floor, they help a division rival with their cap ceiling problem, help Devils with Parise…again.
I don’t disagree but it’s still an upgrade over Hunter. Biggest thing that sucks is helping them out with Parise.
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I missed this.
I just don’t really care for his attitude. The Devils are going to re-sign Parise regardless, whether that forced them to Redden Rolston in the minors before the season starts or not. Lou is not going to get desperate and mortgage the farm (or what little farm the Devils have) in order to sign Parise. He’ll make something work.
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by Fabtraption on Jul 28, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
whether that forced them to Redden Rolston in the minors before the season starts or not.
They couldn’t, it’s a 35+ contract. Burying him in Albany would save them about $100k, which would be spent at least 5 times in calling up a replacement.
Burn
I just got CBA’d!
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by Fabtraption on Jul 28, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's raining cold hard facts up in here!
Ha! Nah, just sorting out the facts… it’s a common misconception about Rolston. Believe me, if he could have been buried in Albany, he probably would have been 2 years ago.
Reality was
We weren’t getting Parise
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by Mark D on Jul 28, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know we weren't going to get him
driving a wedge between him and the devils is always nice though
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Just about to say this
Unless we had a chance to get Parise, helping the Devs in this way isn’t a problem to me as long as trade is good for Isles (which I think it is).
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 28, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
That is correct: we were never going to get Parise
I like the trade, Hunter was a good islander BUT, I don’t remember the last time he was on the ice. SO, thanks Trent, Hello Rolston. Whether it helped the Devils in their cap problems is insignificant. Rolston HELPS OUR CLUB!
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by Russel Ginart on Jul 28, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just wanted to add my agreement that Parise has no bearing on this trade.
If it comes down to cap numbers, the Devils will deal whomever they need to to make room for Parise. If it comes down to Parise not wanting to re-sign with the Devils, then cap space won’t make a difference either.
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Even if it does help Lou with cap space
it’s only for the upcoming season. The Devs will still be hamstrung for the remaining *14 years of Parise’s contract.
*Note: actual contract length may vary.
Wouldn't they just put him in the minors and relieve the cap issue that way?
So what they got Hunter? Enjoy him.
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Rolston is on a 35+ contract, the only way for the cap hit to go away is for the contract to expire. Sending him to the minors only takes $100k off the cap.
by HockeyWeasel on Jul 28, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks buddy
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Like the trade
Isles get Rolston…..Jets sign Santonio and trying to get Nmadi (sp)…..Mets trade Beltran….I think my wife is going to trade me for a new husband. Sports overload week!!
But I will also take Rolston over Hunter any day of the week. Nice move.
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No picks were dealt, apparently.
And if there WAS one, it would,ve gone to the Devs.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jul 28, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Botta
with the requisite digs at the Islanders.
ChrisBottaNHL Chris Botta
#Isles so desperate to reach cap floor, they help a division rival with their cap ceiling problem, help Devils with Parise…again.
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Justification of Rolston acquisition as a “hockey” or “leadership” move…priceless.
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Seriously?
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Ok i tried to avoid all the issues with botta over the past year
but WTF is his problem?
seriously, is he 12 years old or something?
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by Zhora on Jul 28, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Thats what I was thinking too when I saw that tweet
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by JW1970 on Jul 28, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Same as it's always been
It’s personal between him and Snow
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by Mark D on Jul 28, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe he's just upset because today's Garth's birthday and he's a party pooper.
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I'm tempted
To Tweet that at him
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@ChrisBottaNHL Explain to me how, just looking at the comparative players, this trade doesn’t make the Islanders better for next season.
55 seconds ago
Whining that this isn’t the “big trade” is just stupid. Judge the trade for what it is, not what you want it to be.
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What do you expect from botta? He’s nonsense.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Jul 28, 2011 1:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Isles get the conditional pick
as per the press release: "The New York Islanders have acquired forward Brian Rolston and a conditional pick in the 2012 National Hockey League Entry Draft from the New Jersey Devils in exchange for Trent Hunter. "
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Jul 28, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions
no more pick
Also, source has told me that the 2012 conditional pick that was originally included in the deal is no longer included #Isles
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Guess the condition was
…that Isles get a pick if Rolston doesn’t actually want to play for Isles. (The “Nabokov condition”)
No, Rolston’s a good character guy, I believe.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 28, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, WTH?
The conditional pick is in their press release? Was it conditional on Rolston waking up and seeing his shadow?
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by Dominik on Jul 28, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe the conditional pick was for Garth's 40th birthday, not his 42nd.
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Botta
is a moron – any clue why he was canned – duh
this is a GREAT move – period
by Cary K on Jul 28, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Vote 1 for Botta on this...
0 for Cary K.
He’s spot on. Why would you help out a team that you SHOULD BE fighting for the division. Rolston slots as the no better than the third LW on this club, and that’s if they get rid oif the younger and way more valuable comeau.
Plus they lose him after this year because unless he puts up 20 from teh 4th line there’s no way he gets anythng near $5M from the Islanders who will have Strome, Kabanov, and Petrov next year.
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Yeah, BUT!!!
Rolston gives us 20 goals, what would Hunter have given us? Three months on the IR list?
We get a good solid player, and the Devils get a player with questionable health issues.
I posted up above……………………….
Whether it helped the Devils in their cap problems is insignificant. Rolston HELPS OUR CLUB!
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by Russel Ginart on Jul 28, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
You know I respect your opinion...
But if Rolston scores 20 that will mean that Grabner, Moulson, Comeau, Okposo or Parentau were hurt or traded.
We just went older with Reasoner. We have Nino coming into the picture. Do you want him playing with Reasoner AND Rolston.
I really don’t see him playing more than 50 games unless we have injury issues. That’s 50 games we won’t see Ullstrom and Rakhshani. I’d rather have teh cheaper Hunter be an OPTION. And let the devils waive Rolston for STUGOTS.
Just sayin’… I have nothing against Rolston, but I’m not a fan of the deal… unless their plan is to use Comeau to get a top D… and that path had better be laid out already… just waiting for the arbitration… because NOBODY is gonna be helping us make the playoffs… especially not Lou.
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What are you talking about? If it wasn’t rolston who stood in rahk or ullstroms way it would be Hunter. This deal gets rid of a contract that wasn’t helping and allows those kids to rip it up in the ahl. Why should we be rushing to get them to the NHL?
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Jul 28, 2011 1:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What about this?
By acquiring Rolston and trading Hunter, the Islanders free up a bottom six roster spot for the 2012-2013 season, which would probably be a better time to permanently slot Rahk or Ullstrom in anyway.
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by Fabtraption on Jul 28, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Agreed. Move another body out, but still allow a year of development.
Let’s build up some over ripe players on the farm and start having competition amongst peers, not cheap kids trying to steal a spot from a costly vet.
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Goals aren't a finite quantity
It’s not like the Isles only get 200 goals alloted to them, and if Rolston uses them up everyone else goes without.
I guess you might be thinking that Rolston will take time away from better players… but I think there’s a role for him that doesn’t limit Grabs, Matty Mo, Parenteau, or Okposo. He can play the third line with Comeau, and Bailey or Reasoner can center them as needed by situation. Why can’t Rolston hit 20 goals in that situation?
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That's not was I was saying...
…and you know it.
For him to score 20 that means that he would be getting premium ice time. If we were going into the season like last year with Okposo out for at least half the year, then great. Not comitting to Grabner, great. Not knowing if Moulson could do it consistently, great. Not having a bridge like Parentau, great. Not having Nino come up, great. Not replacing konopka with Reasoner, great.
But all of those things have happened. So now at least one of them has to regress for there to be a ROLE for a $5M contract.
I like the fact that it is only one year, but wouldn’t you rather give that year to somebody who will be here for 4 or 5… or at least use one of the lesser roles to audition kids throughout the year.
Unlike Weight he won’t be making $5M to have his wrinlly 38 year old ass on the bench… or scoring 9 goals in 50 games. That’s the highest forward contract number on the team….and instead of it being a burden to Lou, it’s a burden to YOU.
Sorry… this is a step backwards for me. It’s not the end of the world by any means… but it’s just a not a BIG PLUS… and I actually see it as a minus…. except you get rid of Hunter’s 2nd year. But we;ll see. He can come in and have a Sillinger year and I’ll be very happy.
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There will still be times to audition kids
Do you want Rhett or Ullstrom to be penciled in on the roster on opening night? No way. This is hockey (hell, this is ISLANDERS hockey) so injuries are bound to happen. Saying that a proven NHL’er is taking time away from kids who, quite frankly, aren’t quite ready for the big show is jumping way ahead of the gun. I’m sure Rhett, Ullstrom and DiBo will get their ice time once we see who’s healthy and who’s injured. I’d rather have Rolston’s guaranteed health than another season of one-and-done Hunter (though I do love the guy).
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Ice time shouldn't be a problem either though.
You give Rolston his 3min/gm on the PP and 10min/gm on the 4th line and he’s good. Rolston put up 20goal/45pts equivalent season while playing for a trap team and with 16min/gm toi not including PK time and battling injuries. With a better PP point man in Streit and a better powerplay, I don’t see why we can’t write him in for 15goals/30pts before the season even starts if he’s healthy. And Hunter was going to take a roster spot anyway. We needed another reliable PP pointman, and Rolston will be that with Streit.
I don't understand the focus on the $5M contract
I mean that’s obviously an assumed expense — not a checker brought in on a $5M offer — in an environment where they have to inch up to the floor. Hunter, even, was overpaid to be on the fourth line, but that doesn’t mean play him in top six minutes or bust.
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Also, as a bottom line expense, it's only +$1M long term.
Hunter has 2 years @ $2M for $4M total. Rolston is $5m for one, then he’s gone. This brings the Islanders up to the minimum they would need to spend either way, and is gone next year. I think JT’s contract is gonna be big, so JT’s 3 plus Rolston’s 5, you can start @ $8M without adding a penny to the cap or payroll. And I’d be surprised if he got $8M a year…..
I don't see the problem with the money
It’s for one year, so it won’t get in the way of a JT contract, and we need to get to the floor anyway. It’s not like we picked up Redden to help us get to the floor. Rolston can actually help us out.
by sayvillelax94 on Jul 28, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, I do know what you were saying
That’s why I said, right at the top of the second paragraph:
I guess you might be thinking that Rolston will take time away from better players…
I knew what you meant, my brother. =D
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+1 for Cary and Garth Snow
Rolston’s deal helps them reach the floor now without tying them down long-term. He’s not likely to be any less productive than Trent Hunter, who has been unable to stay healthy and has been less-than-amazing when he is. He’s at least as likely to have a better year than Hunter, in fact.
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If you are comparing him to Hunter...
… you are setting the bar pretty low for $5M.
Compare him to Comeau.
Compare him to PA or Nino.
Even compare him to Matt Martin.
These are the players that he’ll be taking ice time away from.
Even the comparison to Martin is a little iffy because Martin was there for a role which Rolston will not be filling…and you’re adding $4M+ in salary.
…and as everybody here argued AGAINST when we were tlaking about blake at 33… players don’t usually improve after that age. Rolston is 38… and had 14 goals for the NJD..
I’d have given Yashin the money launderer bonus to make the floor if that was the issue. And then he could disappear after camp without anybody saying a word.
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Blake was a long term deal, Rolston is one and done.
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I don't see why you're saying he's taking there ice time
The better player will get the better ice time. I don’t see how that can hurt anyone it’s just more competition. Having to little is a bad problem to have, having to much is a good problem to have, unless its diarrhea of course.
Constantly building for the future.
OKAY...
You put $5M in the stands for $500K on the ice… if I’m an intelligent owner I’d have to ask why you went and got the $5M guy… for PR?
He will play at least 50 games if healthy. Just like Weight would have last year… and he only cost $500k.
How about taking Konopka(already replaced) and Haley(possible 4th line RW) out of the equation if it shakes out that way? We’ll have a pretty good fourth line, but 1 of our 12 forwards will have any chance in hell of winning a fight.
Not that this means much in winning hockey games… but this board lit up like a christmas tree after the Penguin massacre.
Just sayin’.
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They either had to overpay Comeau or Bailey, or bring in someone more expensive to make the Floor. That’s why your willing to pay Rolston 5 million, to have breathing room above the floor.
Remember 2 years ago when we kept playing Witt because his salary kept us above the floor? Now with 1-3 million above the floor, instead of being at it, Snow can now flex people in and out depending on how camp goes.
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by Mark D on Jul 28, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, Rolston's salary for performance shouldn't be the basis of any argument here. We needed to overpay someone, and why not do it without hurting our young player payment infrastructure. + Rolston upgrades Hunter and gives us a PP pt partner for Streit.
We needed to get over the floor anyway, why not upgrade the team while we’re at it?
Rolston is likely
MUCH better than Comeau
same relative offense, much more defense
Comeau isn’t that useful in the modern day NHL
especially if we get to the post season
I don't know if I'd go as far as much better
A lot of folks have got Blake Comeau riding shotgun on the Scapewagon lately. He played most of the year with underperforming linemates and still went for 24 goals and 45 points… he plays in all situations… he’s only 25. I think he’s at least as good as Rolston is now, and heading in the opposite direction. Besides, we don’t need Rolston to be better than Comeau to consider his time here a success.
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by mikb on Jul 28, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
But he's a PP point man
And before this, Isles only had one better than Rolston, and that guy is coming off a shoulder injury.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 28, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
I don’t like this trade. Why help out a division rival and not get much in return? Rolston likely won’t play more than 3rd line and PP.
by nyislanders93 on Jul 28, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
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JP you are off on a tangent here
Rolston wants to be here, can play a much better role than Hunter who likely was merely in the way, and over the next 2 years the team pays $1m less
he isn’t in the way of anyone’s time whatsoever – if anything he buys time for Strome etc to do what they should be doing – developing
and we will need room for big salaries like JTs
this was a very good move all around
also keep in mind that Rolston was very very good the second half of last year
even if he gives us only a solid 40 games, no problem at all
JP – you seem to get very firm ideas on players which are appreciated, but this deal makes sense from many perspectives
and we weren’t getting Parise – silly to think that should have been a consideration
we will beat the Devils on the ice as it should be
Nice someone who wants to be here
Rolston’s agent, Steve Bartlett, said Rolston waived his NTC bc he felt #Isles were good young team on the rise. Also good friends w/ Weight
Rolston knew Devils had some cap issues and wanted to have some control over where he went. #Isles apparently went hard after him in 08 also
from Strang
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Great for the player...
Booo for the organization. Something they definitely didn’t ahve to do… if you wanted to help them with cap space take a D!
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Where does another d fit on the team? Just saying it doesn’t make the fact that we have too many d under contract go away.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Jul 28, 2011 1:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If you wanted to swap salary
with lou then send him Reese for Salvador. See how fast Lou laughs you out of his office. The last Devil we put on our roster worked out pretty well to. When he was with the devils he put Nielsen out for 6 weeks. When he joind the Isles he spent more time off the ice (or at least in la la land) than he did contributing to winning hockey.
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You didn’t answer my question. We don’t have room for another d and need to eat salary somewhere so we swapped forwards. We got a guy who is healthy for a guy who hasn’t been in years. What’s not to like? Stop being mad for no reason concerning this trade.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Jul 28, 2011 4:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This isn't about 'helping' another team...
It’s about improving your own. Who was the Isles veteran leadership this season? NO ONE. Now we have Rolston, who is still a decent player. He will fill a role on this team, he will NOT take time from the younger guys (unless he earns it), and he will fit in the locker room well and be a veteran presence.
by billymac23 on Jul 28, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He also WANTS to be here.
Whether that’s because he wants to play a leadership role with the Isles or he just wants to play golf with Doug Weight on the weekends, I’m glad we got a guy who actually wants to be on the team and believes in the future of this franchise.
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by Fabtraption on Jul 28, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This I can agree with
I just wish that person was someone else…like datsyuk.
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by Keith Quinn on Jul 28, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Where does Rolston fit?
Does this suggest another move?
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Jul 28, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions
3rd/4th line and Streit's PP point partner?
Is my guess. So, same place as Hunter, except for the PP, and with slightly less injury concern.
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3rd line, and playing against the opposition’s top line would be a good spot for him.
During the Devils’ resurgence under Lemaire, Rolston thrived alongside Patrik Elias and Dainius Zubrus on a line that spent most of its time against the best line of the opposing team.
by HockeyWeasel on Jul 28, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Last year even?
Thanks. I hadn’t looked at his 5-on-5 numbers post-MacLean, but I remember the year before they were starting to look ugly.
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He had the highest qualcomp among Devils’ forwards who played 60+ games last season, his GFON/60 was higher than the GFOFF/60, and his GAON/60 was lower than his GAOFF/60.
I can’t provide the exact numbers, because behindthenet.ca is blocked where I work, but I looked this info up for a post over at ILWT a few weeks ago.
by HockeyWeasel on Jul 28, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks for the numbers, HW
Around here we usually just wait for BensHana or garik to crunch the advanced stats for us!
It’s good to hear that about Rolston, and that he provides value beyond his boxcar numbers. In fairness, however, I feel compelled to notice that we don’t have an Elias and Zubrus to put Rolston next to…
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I definitely understand that. But having seen the way Lemaire likes to switch up lines, there’s no way he’d have left Rolston in that spot if he was just riding Elias’ and Zubrus’ coattails.
by HockeyWeasel on Jul 28, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully Capuano figures how to use him well
So far, pretty good in that department. But he’s got a couple of interesting new role pieces this year.
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Lemaire was pretty good about keeping lines together upon his return last year. The year before…. that’s a different story.
Yeah. And given what we saw in ‘09-’10, the only reason I can see for Lemaire leaving the lines alone was that he liked what he was seeing from them, except for that maddeningly low shooting percentage.
by HockeyWeasel on Jul 28, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
From Strang, paraphrasing Snow:
Snow also said Rolston’s effectiveness in the Devils’ second half of the season convinced him he had plenty of good hockey left in the tank
I was just about to ask why he didn’t claim him on waivers if he liked him, but this hints that he was paying close attention.
Of course, “plenty of good hockey” is a risky bet at age 74.
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when he was available on waivers
there was a lot of doubt on Rolston
which he removed in the 2nd half
I'd rather have had Yashin...
$5M… at elast there’s only one year left.
LH/LW… do we really need another LW with Moulson, Grabner, Comeau, Martin in the fold.
…adios Blake. You’re gonna get turned into a defenseman on Friday.
Unless it is a preview of August movement this just sounds ridiculous…. Unless you want to create the AARP Line with Rolston-Yashin-Reasoner.
I was kinda looking forward to Hunter coming back healthy… it meant DEPTH at a position where our biggest assets were Okposo and Parentau.
Not a big fan of this.
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I figured
He could switch wings.
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Not the point
He can play anywhere. They gave up 7 years in age for $3M in salary. Why would you do that for the devils… this is why you don’t trade in your division. If Hunter puts up 15G this was a DISASTER… so maybe I should reserve judgement.
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What IF?
Rolston puts up 20 goals from the 4th line? I say ISLES WIN that trade. When was the last time we 20 goals from a fourth line? I think you got to go back to Dinasty years for that.
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by Russel Ginart on Jul 28, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Moulson – JT – PA
Grabner – Frans – KO
Rolston – Bailey – Nino
Martin – Reasner – Haley
And Comeau is trade bait for a defenseman.
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You say that now
Let’s see who Comeau fetches.
If McCabe hasn’t been signed by now, doesn’t that tell you something?
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Eh, I'm not too worried about McCabe or Hannan as our #4 d-man,
but if Comeau fetches a 40pts d-man that isn’t 31yrs+, I’m all for it. But traded Comeau for a 30pts/shutdown top 4 d-man is a complete waste. I’d rather that extra 10-20goals on the 4th line if need be(Rolston/Comeau). Depth is awesome.
Cautious trading Comeau
I feel he’s a guy worth more to the Islanders, than he is on the open market.
People act like you can have only 12 forwards cast in stone and the 13th guy is out. Well it doesn’t take a pr*j*ct**n to know that at some time someone will either be hurt or underperforming and in need of a night off. Quite frankly, If Nino can’t take a spot from Rolston, then he deserves to be in Juniors another year.
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by Hockey1919 on Jul 28, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
agreed with WebBard
trade Comeau – and Bailey for that matter – for a D-man – in a heartbeat
Moulson – JT – PA
Grabner – Frans – KO
Rolston – Cizikas – Nino
Martin – Reasoner – Haley
We can't trade the franchise's active scoring leader!
Just kidding, but yes, Blake Comeau is the org’s new active scoring leader with a whopping 121 pts, tied with Taveras.
And yes, a 20 year-old player who just finished his 2nd year in the pros, is now tied as the NYI active leader in points. Kind of frightening when you put it into those terms. (Not frightening as in the future is bleak, just frightening how green the team is).
by Hey Hanrahan on Jul 28, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Jesus H. Christ
That is a startling statistic.
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Great guns of navaronne
That is sobering.
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Not buying the age argument since Hunter made Weight look youthful.
Next season with the conference re-alignment, you won’t be able to deal with 15 teams in the NHL either if you are going to worry to much about improving your conference rivals. Snow and Lou-cifer seem to have a good relationship and worked a mutually beneficial deal.
With Snow working a deal with the Devil, I guess we can say we have seen a cold day in hell after all.
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I think you need to step back from this. What Hunter does is irrelevant to how rolston does or does not produce. If Hunter puts up 14 does that make the trade a-ok?
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Jul 28, 2011 2:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BD
Is saying he can play all forward positions.
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Rolston skates faster than Hunter, when Rolston is skating backwards.
Not Snow’s greatest or best move, but Hunter (as much as I like the player) was done. Snow is rolling the dice on a known commodity that his own doctors have had under their care and should know if he is looking like he will bounce back. If you are New Jersey you may be thinking why did we take a guy that is hardly able to play and still have another year after this on his contract?
Rolston can play the point on the PP with his big shot , adds speed and a veteran presence. Is it too little for $5 Million, I’d say yes, but the cap floor is not going to prevent us for spending more either. He actually vastly improve down the stretch after he was waived. Remember that not picking up a guy on waivers may just mean a team didn’t have the salary room to pick up a guy they would have wanted.
OR maybe SNow just F*ed up and thought he was re-acquiring Roloson to ensure he has 8 goaltender depth.
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by Hockey1919 on Jul 28, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This actually shouldn't be understated
During the draft I heard someone comment on the Isles strategy as being geared toward speed. They want a fast team. Hunter doesn’t fit the mold, Rolston does.
And it’s one year of a guy that can actually play. Hunter never does.
The money means nothing obviously. They have plenty of room.
And I think Botta’s point is moot, b/c they could’ve just put Rolston in the AHL and relieved themselves of the cap hit anyway right? A la Wade Redden?
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No hiding Rolston since his is an over 35 contract.
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forget last line, i was corrected above
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Is Rolston fast?
Any Devs fans here? I thought he was fast, but the past few times I watched him, he seemed kind of slow. Is he like Guerin? (Can skate fast when he wants, but only does that every 10 games.)
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 28, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Trent Hunter has NOT seen the ice in almost a year!
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by Russel Ginart on Jul 28, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't he used to be fast? I have a hard time believing he's as slow as dirt. Give us a player comparison on your team.
Faster, slower, or equal then to Zubov in speed?
Also
Is there any possible way he could even be slower than Hunter?
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He was fast, but he’s on the wrong side of 37 now. Whatever speed he had has left him.
by HockeyWeasel on Jul 28, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d say faster than Colin White but slower than Zubrus. Zubrus might be the best comparable. He reminds me of a latter day John Madden, where the motor runs fine, it just doesn’t accelerate like it used to.
He’s almost definitely faster than Hunter, but when you’re talking about guys that slow, “faster” is relative.
elesias, you're going to love the lead Hunter has in his
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by Dominik on Jul 28, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't you see
The AARP line comes on and lulls them to sleep while FNGO comes on and skates right past them :-)
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by CharlieIsles on Jul 28, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Nino
Can only go back to JRs or make the Islanders.
Another year of Dominiating the WHL is not going to make him better.
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But as I stated above, if he can't earn a spot over a 38 year old then he isn't NHL ready either.
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Nino would have to flame out in Camp not to make it on the opening day roster
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Agreed he would indeed have to flame out not to be in the NHL,
but that isn’t a gauranteed spot on the roster every night either. You can’t take a single intra-squad game seriosuly, but what if he appeared to lack motivation and be out of shape after Garth all. but announced Nino would be up this coming season. Having him under your watch and turning him into a professional still has value without ensuring he gets ice time.
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Even then I'm not sure.
I fear that regardless of whether’s he’s ready we need his cap hit.
by Hey Hanrahan on Jul 28, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
We needed salary cap money. And Rolston is an upgrade over Hunts.
Looks like we got our 4th line LW and a PP point man(better then A-mac). Do you guys think he will play in the top 9? He looks like he’s got some stuff left in the tank, he would be a great 4th liner if healthy, probably even a solid 3rd liner.
Either way, we are shaping up to have a great 4th line: Reasoner, Rolston and someone else. We got a lot of forward depth now.
by OzzyFan on Jul 28, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I like this move
Get an older guy in the last year of his contract from a winning (not last year but usually) organization. I like this move
Maybe put him on a line with Bailey and Comeau (just guessing) and see how it goes.
Worst case scenario is it doesn’t work out and thre spot will be taken by one of the rookies for next year.
I like Hunter and wish him well
Forget the $$$$$ and cap issues for a moment!
Does Trent Hunter make the NJ Devils better? Answer: NO
Does Rolston make the Islanders better? Answer: YES
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by Russel Ginart on Jul 28, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
For that matter
There’s rumors that the Devils might just buy out Hunter anyway
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Amen
I don’t see much room or justification to say this was a bad move. He’s more versatile than Hunter, faster. More offensive upside. Good on the PP. A no brainer.
Worried about taking Comeau’s left wing spot? Who cares…..
Does it help the Devils with their cap situation? Maybe….but what’s more important….helping out your own team, or passing on an opportunity to help your own team just to make some other teams’ life harder. There would have been other teams intersested in Rolston’s services….the Devils would have been able to move him, I’m sure.
And why is everyone on Rakhshani like he’s the next Daniel Briere. Not even close! Rakhshani will not be anything in the NHL.
Good move Garth. Now get us a #1 D man please.
by JPinNYC on Jul 28, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh my god it's bizarro JP!
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Finally
Some one else who thinks Rhett is a career AHLer. He wasn’t too good without Bailey down there.
Constantly building for the future.
I agree too
Although he did pick it up towards the end of the season, I think Rhett and DiBo are both AHL lifers
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########
And why is everyone on Rakhshani like he’s the next Daniel Briere. Not even close! Rakhshani will not be anything in the NHL.
I mark these (########) so I can find them later. I’m sure the AHL rookie all star agrees with your assessment and will give up the game after wandering around in AHL obscurity the next few years.
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by Fabtraption on Jul 28, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
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Hmmm, let me rephrase
Can I make this my avatar on LastFM ?
I currently use the real picture.
(And I need glasses.)
brilliant
We’ll make that as green as the saber.
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I would...
but there are too many Cary K player assessments on my wall. I can’t even see the pictures of my daughter anymore.
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by JPinVA on Jul 28, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHA
OK, I’m sorry Cary, but that’s damned funny.
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that is funny
agreed
however, not as funny is the overrating of Rakhshani – who as pointed out by others wasn’t much without Bailey – in the AHL – which is something like two tiers of quality below the NHL
Rakhshani is next year’s Joensuu at best – I hope I’m wrong, but I doubt it
difference of opinion makes horse races
And I’m going to miss the Finn named Joensuu. A slower-developing player, but one who could put it together and then have a good productive career.
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Perfect bridge veteran for our 3rd line
I don’t like helping the Devils but they would have gotten something done anyway. And as much as I liked Hunter he really is too slow for the new NHL and waaay too injury prone. It’s a good deal for both teams and now we don’t need to hear about Yashin any more.
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Well there goes another trooper.
You can’t say that you didn’t see this coming. He was a man of class and now he is a Devil. If Trent puts one of those goofy turn around slapshots/wristshots over DP, Nabby or Poulin from the top of the circle I think I will have to reach through the screen and strangle him.
However, I wish him well…just not against the Isles.
Rolston deal straight up is a win for the Devils. That conditional pick balanced it out but if that is off the table…
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Hunter gets the puck, he fires! And it ricochets off the glass and out of the zone.
I really wish him all the best, was hoping his career trajectory would be on a positive slope after his rookie season, but for all of his effort he never took the next step. He was a consummate professional and I’ve defended him in past season because I didn’t think the Islanders had enough players that actually new what be a a pro meant. However, the writing was on the wall and I’m not even sure he is healthy enough to come back next season.
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Hunter might in fact have taken the next step
Fast as he is, he just needs another 3-4 years to complete the move.
by Kaonashi on Jul 28, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do we trust Garth or not?
simple question.
What role will Rolston be in? 4th liner? 3rd liner?
Will he contribute more than Hunter or Rakh or Ullstrom?
Will another year in the AHL really hurt Rakh or Ullstrom or Dibo? Is it possible it will actually help them?
I mean in the scope of all those questions, I think it’s an ok deal. Not anythign to be worked up over. Maybe Rakh and the rest of the AHL boys will be good one day, but I don’t see why we need to commit a spot to them this year.
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If we look at Rolston as a replacement for CoZo
that’s not a good swap at all
Pr*j*ct**ns lead to long term injuries, just ask the asian guy from Inception
well think of it this way
Either one of 2 things is going to happen
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by Zhora on Jul 28, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ok wth why did that post
anyways either 1 of 2 things is going to happen. 1) we trade Comeau for a top 4 defensemen and the 5-10 goal differential between Rolston and the COZO master wont matter, or we keep both of them and Rolston skates with Reasoner and Martin to give us a great 4th line
Rolston isnt a replacement for Comeau, hes a replacement for Hunter, and a POSSIBLE temporary fill in for Comeau
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Sorry I basically said what you siad.
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Im sure you know what they say about great minds ;)
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that fools seldom differ?
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by Hockey1919 on Jul 28, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
heh, I thought you were pulling a Stephen Wright joke on us there.
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by mikb on Jul 28, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didnt realize how funny that comment looks until after i already replied to it
I shouldve just left it like that
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What if Reasoner is a swap for CoZo and Rolston is a swap for Zeke?
Its not like all these moves are sequential dominoes, some moves are made far in advance of other moves and some fall together one after the other. I like to simply think of this as replacing Hunter with Rolston. Money is not an issue since the Islanders have to spend it one way or another and this way doesn’t disrupt TEHC ORE salary structure.
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Heh, swap of aging question marks
Rolston’s offensive history is better. Hunter’s defensive history is better. Hunter’s injury and loss of already challenged speed puts him almost on par with Rolston’s advanced age (with advanced speed).
I guess this is just a swap of aging injury question marks, with Rolston possibly filling a bigger on-ice need.
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For those who put stock in such things, Rolston did lead the Devils last year in both Corsi Rel QoC and Rel. Corsi.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 28, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Indeed. John Fischer at ILWT took a pretty good look at Rolston this offseason and the results had most Devils fans resigned to having a $5m checking forward.
It seems he’s a cheaper, more effective Drury at this stage.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 28, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently the Isles were *desperate* for a $5m checking forward
With what was once a boomstick.
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I also hear that Rolston is great
He leads in Numbers and Other Numbers.
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He had 34 points last year
That’s like 50 points on a non-trap team.
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Not sure what that means...
…last year when Cappy simplified things the team seemed to settle into a trapish nuetral zone look. They would turn on the forecheck once in a while, but it was a much more conservative set… and they generated a lot more offense that way, while defending the goalie-go-round much better.
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It's different degrees though
We still had 55 more goals than the Devils (and 55 more goals against). It’s like comparing a mouse trap to a bear trap.
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Except the Devils weren’t a trap team either, even under Lemaire.
by elesias on Jul 28, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
From an outsider perspective...
…This is a really shrewd move for the Islanders.
Rolston is in no way worth 5mil, BUT he is still a quality depth player. The Islanders aren’t gunning for the cup next year, and they will have a ton of cap room, so it’s a good idea to get to the floor by adding a short term guy who will score 15ish and be solid defensively (as opposed to massively overpaying guys who are middling at best guys like the Panthers did).
If you team him with Reasoner, you can probably free up FNGO for more offensive situations, which can only benefit the Isles as a whole.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 28, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
you gotta stop making us feel good about ourselves here, George
You’re gonna lose all your Rangers fan cred…
Unless you’re lulling us or something. WHAT'S YOUR GAME??!?
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by George E. Ays on Jul 28, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sanity
So rare among sports fans.
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by Dominik on Jul 28, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This
What I like about this move is, if Rolston is even slotted on the 4th line and not the 3rd (like some are predicting), this makes even the 4th line offensively dangerous.
If the Islanders are able to put up a 15-15-15 from some kind of combination of Reasoner/Rolston/Martin/Haley, that would be a hell of a dangerous 4th line.
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quotes on twitter
suggest he’ll have a chance to compete for the top 2 lines. Only person I could see him even pushing is Okposo if he gets a slow start.
Pr*j*ct**ns lead to long term injuries, just ask the asian guy from Inception
That's what I'm thinking now
We still need Nino’s contract anyway and he’s not going on the 4th line.
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Me too. And what a good 4th line combo we could have with Reasoner/Rolston/+1. Can you imagine how much better our 4th line could be from last year?
We “could” realistically get 35-40goals from our 4th line last year.
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Joking aside, this is just like Reasoner vs. Konopka. An objective upgrade at a bottom-6 position. That he’s got only a year left on the deal is even more brilliant. That means that next year he walks and Strome enters stage left (or center). I can see the Devils buying out Hunter anyway.
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by PGI on Jul 28, 2011 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agree with the Reasoner v. Konopka comparison
I suspect this could be less of an upgrade than that, but it’s definitely in the same vein.
That said, I will shed a parting tear for bald #7, who once had hair and wore #43. Time served.
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And remember the day the penalty box door tried to break his sternum?
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Smart Move
Rolston is absolutely a quality player who actually plays unlike Hunter. He lends support to a young team which was absolutely hurt by the lack of respective from league officials. More importantly, we got a player who can play and got rid of one who hasn’t contributed much these past few years.
He has played 64, 80, and 65 games the past three seasons. What has Hunter done? Rolston has averaged over 34 points a season during that stretch.
We clear cap space for the 2012 season. We put Nino on notice he has to come to camp in shape or he will be sent back to Juniors. Rolston now becomes an insurance policy for 3rd and 4th line.
Also, we are now in the position to make a spectacular trade for a defenseman.
Free up next year...
The 2M from Hunter and the extra 3M free up $5M ‘slot’ to sign JT long term. JT’s current 3.7M can go else if needed…
The biggest question mark is
Does Rolston now become vulnerable to Islander hip/knee/face etc
Pr*j*ct**ns lead to long term injuries, just ask the asian guy from Inception
Will the Devils even play Hunter? Or buy him out?
He’s got to be a cheaper buyout option here, no?
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I'm thinking buyout
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That’s my question. What are the chances Hunter doesn’t ride the LTIR, if not spend most of his time in the AHL?
Does Lou have a policy against buyouts?
I’m trying to remember if that is kosher in the Book of Lou.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 28, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks. Ahhh... Peters. Some Isles fans thought we needed him.
I remember Lou insisting he wouldn’t buy out Rolston, so I started to wonder if that was philosophical or just too doggone expensive.
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he couldn’t, 35+ contract. Which is what made it so bad- Rolston would be in Albany if he didn’t have one.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 28, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahh, right
For some reason I remembered that for burying in the minors but not for sending Pronger to his little elbow sling in the sky.
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LTIR looks like a way to get and additional $2M cap relief.
We never did hear if Trent was coming back this season did we?
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A team
can wave that
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See the quote from the Tom Gulitti's twwet:
“New Devil Trent Hunter traveled from Alberta to Newark to take his physical this morning. He said all went well and he apparently passed.”
So he SAID that all went well- and that means he "apparently" passed?
Why didnt he just say that he passed?
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 29, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Quick Scouting Report on Rolston
Strengths: Very good skater, shoots the puck alot, eats up a lot of ice time and is a very good defensive forward at even strength. He’s also pretty big (6’2 212 lbs)
Weaknesses: He needs to be with the best players to succeed. He’s probably going to put up more points with Tavares than he would with say Blake Comeau. Despite his size, he’s not really very physical.
Basically Rolston’s top 6 or bust.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 28, 2011 2:23 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks, but
Is he still a good skater?
And top 6 or bust? I’d really want him in a checking role — and away from Tavares.
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i’d say if anything he should play with Nielsen and Grabner (he can play RW too). He’s a bit slower than he was before because of injuries, but he’s still pretty solid.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 28, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Does he take Grabner's spot on the FnGO and Grabner moves to the wing of Bailey and Comeau?
There weren’t too many games together, but Grabner showed signs of chemistry with Bailey as well. None of us know how this experiement is going to work out yet.
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Oh hey, why not just take Christ and The Holy Spirit out of the Holy Trinity while we're at it.
Sooo….Catholic School…..yep.
LOL
FN…..RO?
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by CharlieIsles on Jul 28, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great
Scooby-Doo working the broadcast booth.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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No, that's just Butchy.
I confuse them too. Eventually, you’ll be able to differentiate. Give it time.
beat me Les.
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heheheheh
Get ready for Brian Roloson, Brian Ronson, Brent Rolston, Brian Moulson, and Brad Rolston on the play-by-play this year.
No wonder Garth made this move, he’s getting, like, five players for the price of one.
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missed Dwayne Rolston.
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he's future considerations
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I'm thinking more like
Brian Roaston
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent Paul Kraus during Palffy's contract holdout in 1998.
Who needs Scooby when we have Butchie?
“RO-RO” a give and go by Rolston and Okposo
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That’s the Rolstonian conundrum. He’s got the shot, the size and the experience for a top-6 role, but doesn’t have the production for it no matter who he’s on a line with. On the flip side, he seems perfectly suited to a checking role and a special teams specialist, but his salary all but mandates that he play more than 12 minutes per game.
His salary is meaningless on the Island becasue they are free of cap concerns.
If Rolston doesn’t get the minutes he wants, what is he going to do? Refuse to re-sign with the Islanders? The Devils were being forced to play with a shortened roster some game last season just to stay under the cap and therefore had to play Rolston big minutes, salary or not. I doubt Fred Flinstone is going to play Rolston if it means losing games.
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It's all relative...
$5m for a washed up devil.
$500k for uber-dane.
the two don’t mean anything to each other, but I just hope part of this deal is some way to funnel some of that cash to somebody who deserves it.
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Hopefully it does
At this rate, they’ll need help with the floor again next summer, when Frans and JT will be due to get theirs.
Of course then the CBA expires on Sept. 15, 2012…
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Doesn't affect Frans either, no re-negotiating contracts, so what is done is done.
The comparables will be the deals that Snow signs, not the ones he trades for.
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How does the Rolstonian Conundrum measure up to the Jurcina Anomaly?
I’m so glad they’re making another (Bob) Bourne trilogy!
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Umm
Good riddance on Hunter, but I’m curious about something: during last season when Rolston was on waivers and I said “hey, maybe the Isles should pick him up,” most folks around here were adamantly against the idea. But now the consensus is this was some brilliant move by Snow?
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Talk about STIRRING THE KOOL AID!!!
FREE… I don’t want him.
Give up a minor asset a year later… PURE GENIUS!!!
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Completey agree with you on the thoughts. However, see the motives behind this one: Even though he needed to add salary, Snow couldn’t/didn’t to want sign anyone LT/expensive who would block any of the young guys. So he ‘upgrade’ the $2M question mark that probably wasn’t going to contribute to a $5M question that may or may not contribute.
I agree though: I don’t think this makes them any better. If only the draft pick had been in there. “Draft pick? BRILLIANT!!! Rebuild!! Rebuild!!!”
by maydog927 on Jul 28, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If by picking up Rolston on waivers, you could have relieved the team of Hunter's contract then maybe.
I wasn’t big on picking him up on waivers last year, but a few months later situations change. I don’t see this move as earth shattering either. Rolston is not the missing piece or more than a way to fill into the cap floor for this season . It is a swap of bottom six forwards. The Islanders still haven’t been able to find the PP point man and this may just be what’s left.
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If Snow gets Erhoff, this probably doesn’t happen.
Also picking him up while he was on waivers last year only helps the Devils last season, considering that by the time Rolston was on Waivers the Isles were out of the playoffs.
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It's asset management, nothing more
I’m more open to adding Rolston now because he wasn’t as awful as he looked a year ago, and now they actually need a silly short salary commitment whereas last year it would have been two years in an environment with many more unknowns (before extensions to Okposo, Grabner, Moulson). Plus they trade the two-year Hunter baggage for the one-year Rolston baggage.
That said, I’d stop well short of calling it brilliant, and have yet to see a mass of humanity that is using that word (except in maydog’s strawmen posts). That’s like saying all critics of the move are calling it the worst move in Islanders history.
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I think most wouldn't have minded him for the bottom 6, they just didn't want to knock $5mil/yr off the devils salary by doing it.
We knocked $3mil/yr of fthe Dev’s salary by doing this, but we did upgrade our bottom 6 and PP point, so it’s a good move.
That’s how I see it: cap issue trade-off that actually helps the Islanders talent wise.
I wouldn’t, however, be too enthusiastic about expectations for Rolston. He did seem to have a bit of a rejuvenation of sorts in the second half of last season, but the entire team did. In the end he’s definitely an upgrade over Hunter, but he was on the Devils’ PP unit and it too was pretty awful.
He could help out PP unit too, we need a big slapper/quality passer on the point next to Streit, and he's an upgrade over anyone we got there.
And this was a “cap” trade for both teams. You guys needed relief and we needed more salary. Done and done.
We gave them $3 mil of cap relief
FOR ONE SEASON. They still have to deal with cap issues as long as Kovy and Parise are being paid.
Re: Rolston on waivers
For me, the difference is that we didn’t need any sort of additional help to reach the floor last year, and had players in his checking roles. This year, we need the short-term salary boost and have parted ways with a few bottom-six guys like Schremp, Joensuu, Sim, and Konopka. Add in Doug Weight’s "retirement"* and we have a role for Rolston that we didn’t before.
*I say “retirement” because I’m convinced Doug Weight will regenerate like a Time Lord and reappear in the 2029 Entry Draft.
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Um, I think you mean "nominated," Wysh...
Hunter never matched his Calder Trophy winning year of 2003-04 when he scored 25 goals.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 28, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Why does everyone and their mother think the Isles are trading Blake Comeau?
We just acquired a guy in Rolston who right now, at his age, at this stage of his career is NOT better than Blake Comeau. He’s better than Trent Hunter, but not Comeau. You can all hope for another D-Man but I don’t think Comeau is what is going to fetch him.
This move should actually alarm Islanders fans bc what it looks like to me is that management wasn’t all that impressed with Nino and how he looked last week. Whether its the summer or not, you’d expect players who don’t have an NHL job locked up to come in hungry to open some eyes and in top notch shape. I doubt they were too pleased with his ho-hum attitude towards the whole thing.
I went to an Islanders Power Play and all I got was this broken stick
There's no way
You send Nino back to the WHL for a year
Nino had 60 points in 65 games and 16 points in 13 playoff games his first year
To 70 points in 55 games and 27 points in 21 playoff games his second year
He really can’t improve on his totals by all that much, more time in JRs isn’t going to make him any better.
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Me personally, I dont think you do either
But unfortunately Garth Snow doesn’t call me and ask me for advice.
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by Chris McNally on Jul 28, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't see Comeau traded either unless we get some 40pts+ d-man, which is highly unlikely with Comeau an picks.
So I think we’re keeping comeau.
He was playing with some fantastic players though
Lots of NHL prospects and about-to-be NHL prospects. You never know. He’s still very young.
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by Dominik on Jul 28, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, but he also spent some time with "worse" players as BenHasna showed(I believe) in a fanpost.
He’s going to have to get used to the nhl sometime anyway. But I understand you’re point.
Well, he did spend some time away from Johansen (and thus with “worse” players/centers), but from what I found , heactually struggled quite a bit in those situations. So, maybe, going back, spending (more) time with “worse” players and this time around doing well regardless would be something he’d benefit from.
by BenHasna on Jul 28, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I can definitely see your point. I think we are gonna need his cap hit for salary floor flexibility throughout the season though, and our competition for 3rd line RW's for him isnt' great, so I think he's on the team.
But I definitely wouldn’t be surprised with him spending another year in the minors, especially with what you showed in that fanpost.
hey Webby
In my opinion, at this point it’s far from certain Nino will be up in the NHL (at the beginning of) this season. I’m too busy to go into detail, unfortunately, but I think I’ll have time to put some thoughts together about Nino’s situation next week or so. However, really, I think it’s more likely Nino will be sent down again than not.
Ditto
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I’ll have to check CapGeek, cause some of my thinking was also due to them needing both Nino and CDH to make the floor.
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Nino has played 9 games in the NHL, can he be sent down to Juniors if he plays one more NHL game?
I’m sure he can be called up from Juniors at any point, but I don’t think the reverse is true any longer. If he starts the season up, then he is an NHLer until next year when eligible for the AHL.
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Yes, he can
The 9-game thing is a per-season basis. Once you eclipse 10 NHL games in one season, your ELC fully triggers. At that point, you can still be returned to juniors, but doing so will not “slide” your ELC to the next year the way it did for Nino and de Haan last year.
As an aside, the “slide” actually reduces your cap hit ever so slightly because the portion of your signing bonus attributed to your first year does not slide, so in your third year there is no signing bonus, which lowers the average annual value. (Jesus, you can’t ever discuss the CBA without it becoming a cluster of confusing dependent clauses like the ones I just typed.)
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…too much into Cappy’s obvious button pushing comment during the prospect game. NINO WILL BE AN ISLANDER THIS YEAR.
It’s more likely that they feel safer in trading Blake for a defender now.
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On Comeau
I’ve always felt this, I think Snow feels more loyalty towards the players he drafted/signed himself instead of the players he inherited. With the bloodletting this summer, Hunter, Martinek, Gervais, there’s almost no one left that Snow didn’t have a hand in acquiring. I think that’s one of the reasons your more likely to see Comeau traded then for example Bailey.
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Very same thought I posted above, with a single caveat. One game impressions mean almost nothing.
Nino played 9 NHL game slast year. I thought he handled himself well given his age(and was fortunate to be there when he scored his first NHL goal), but he wasn’t ready and may still need time to adjust to the pro level. It may mean a few nights watching from the stands. He doesn’t need to be in the lineup for his contract to count agains the cap.
Agee on Comeau as well, he may be moved, but so may every other player not named Tavares. Rolston as a single season upgrade over Hunter is not an orgnaizational sea change.
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Rolston isn't slow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gjmx6Zm5Cg
And he’s got a lethal accurate slapper for all that don’t know:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG-3rKIQtfc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvPVRyYtzvc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdajJf3mpUM
I would feel better about the slapshot if those clips were more recent
Just saying, we may just have a once-speedy aging checker whose PP point/slapshot days are also behind him.
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Trust me, he still has that shot
Towards the end of last season i was watching a Devils-Rags game where he beat Lundqvist from the blue line with a one timer
Henrik wasnt screened, it wasnt a fast or nifty pass, he was staring at him the whole way, It just wasnt physically possible for him to stop the shot.
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I especially like the one
vs Hartford Whalers. I remember that game……I had just seen ET that day…..and Rolston scores that goal….
lol j/k :-)
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by CharlieIsles on Jul 28, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh. He’s still slow. For instance, on the second goal Carcillo (I believe it was) coasted back and let him go. If he’d actually tried he probably could have stopped that pass.
He’s got the motor, and there’s no accounting for how much of skill determination plays, but he doesn’t have the footspeed to compete in today’s game on a consistent level.
As to the slapshots, those are all from his time in Minnesota when he scored 30+ goals… which earned him the big contract with NJ. He’s been far less accurate lately, dropping a full 3% shooting percentage since his homecoming from his days with the Wild.
I will say, though, that the general perception that he has a war on the backboards was largely disproved.
We’ve each got on different colored glasses, and that’s cool. We’ll revisit it in April :)
by elesias on Jul 28, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would tell you this as a Devils fan. His slap shot is really good, but REALLY inconsistent. While he does score a tremendous % of his goals on his slap shots, he is really not as accurate as you would think. He’s still a good player for sure though.
Would be interesting to see who dents the boards more, Hunter or Rolston
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YAY!!!! No more busted knees, half ice skating slow as shit Trent Hunter
I was really hoping we weren’t going to see this guy skate this season. Rolston may not be much of an upgrade but at least this guy has a little more speed and play the full surface.
I agree with your not wanting to see Hunter this season
but the guy reminded me of a warrior. When he was healthy – rarely, i know – he was like a wrecking ball on the ice. And he did kind of look badass with the shaved head. My wife, during her one game she ever watched, said, “that guy probably fights a lot”.
I hope he does well wherever he ends up.
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by CharlieIsles on Jul 28, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Mixed feelings on Hunter
Gritty player, no doubt, but always left me wanting more. Perhaps a victim of his own early success (raising expectations too high) and the league transition to the New NHL.
by Hey Hanrahan on Jul 28, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Yikes
How does one read into this Botta tweet
ChrisBottaNHL Chris Botta
Lying becomes habit: RT @KatieStrangNYI Of salary swap, Snow said: “That’s secondary and it didn’t even come into my thought process.”
23 minutes ago
Maybe one just shouldn’t…
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
I don't understand how people get so bent out of shape over Chris Botta.
I don’t agree with everything he says but I don’t dissagree either. I don’t get what it is about this guy that gets people so up in arms.
It's more the fact that Tweeting that to thousands of followers sounds extremely unprofessional
Especially since he used to work for the team and knowing his on-(mostly) off again relationship with Snow, it just reeks of whining and personal biases. Then, when he played the whole “I’m not a journalist, just a blogger”/“I’m not a blogger, I’m a journalist – LOOK AT MY AOL PASS!” situation from last year, I just lost a tremendous amount of faith in the guy as a reporter, a blogger, and a hockey insider.
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by Fabtraption on Jul 28, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Yes. He wants to have it both ways, and he is what he is as it's convenient.
I have a hard time respecting that or taking him serious. His SNY “show” is, in my opinion, excellent. I don’t watch them all, but I enjoy them as interesting, informative and generally fact based. And to then turn around an accuse Snow of lying habitually, ridiculous. He’s a former PR guy, he knows the difference between lying and saving face.
That's what got me
The ‘lying habitually’ bit. Seemed to hint at the private dealings between him and Snow that really should remain that way, and he just comes off as a bit of a priss about it. Strange coming from an alleged professional.
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by IslesFanInNJ on Jul 28, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
If anyone expects their GM to be truthful
They’re idiots. That’s really why I don’t get the Botta tweet. He has to know that they lie all the time, but he’s almost framing it like it’s just Snow. Which fires up the ole comment section.
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by Keith Quinn on Jul 28, 2011 3:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It gets stranger...
…thankfully the twitter-verse is sane (and snarky!) in its response:
@ChrisBottaNHL
Chris Botta
#Isles loved Brian Rolston so much, they passed on him every time his $5 mill was on waivers last season.
8 minutes ago via web
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tomp121 Tom Petrella
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@ChrisBottaNHL If you keep it up you might lose your Islander credentials. Oh wait ….
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AGuido AGuido
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@ChrisBottaNHL right, and now they get him for a net of $3M this yr.
6 minutes ago
Blocknesmonster THE Blocknesmonster
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@ChrisBottaNHL Not a fair statement. He wasn’t producing at that time AND Garth Snow is now able to get rid of Hunter by trade. :-)
6 minutes ago
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NunoRico Mario Nuno Rico
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@ChrisBottaNHL Chirs..we get it..you don’t like the deal…but stop the hating already. #Isles
7 minutes ago
This move is such a non-entity. And even though Botta’s been lobbying for some magical move to secure a top-6 D-man, this move isn’t making or breaking that effort. The Isles needed to get to the floor and the Devils were going to shed the salary needed to get Parise regardless. Get back to Rocking the Referendum, Botta! Bringing the fanbase down over this is just counterproductive.
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by IslesFanInNJ on Jul 28, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
@ChrisBottaNHL ?
More like @ChrisBitterNHL!!!
LOL M I RITE????
by Les Beaver on Jul 28, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
As the World Turns
or is it Days of Our Lives. Neither is the kind of drama I’m partial to.
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by Dominik on Jul 28, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good job, Snow
I’m surprised that we got so much for Trent Hunter. I liked Hunter during his brief prime but coming off of multiple injuries and declining PPG production I was really expecting we were going to take a wash on him and cut him loose. I know that Rolston is old but he has remained productive, how is Trent worth this much? The age is actually a positive, without Weight we really don’t have a lot of veteren leadership- I think the need for veteren leadership can be overstated but to get a guy still capable of 15-20 goals who has close to two decades of experience in the National Hockey League is only going to help this team.
by MatthewM11 on Jul 28, 2011 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
YOUR LYING EYESSnow's Pants Remain on Fire as his Nose Continues to Grow
Comments?
Seriously. What’s Garth supposed to say? “We only wanted him for his contract. I don’t even know who Brian Rolston is.” Just calling the guy a liar is bush league.
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Sorry
Meant to be a response to IslesFanInNJ’s comment
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent Paul Kraus during Palffy's contract holdout in 1998.
I'll stop now.
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Meh deal with for a former big name
This is basically Guerin and Weight 2.0. The only thing that bugs me about it is that the Devs now have the cap room for Parise. They got a get out of jail free card.
I’m also of the belief that either one or multiple of Niño, Comeau or Bailey will either be moved or otherwise not be on the roster in October. I know there are injuries yada, yada…but you fill injuries from BPT, not from the team itself. Someone is out.
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by Keith Quinn on Jul 28, 2011 4:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I prefer simplicity here
Who is the better player? Hunter or Rolston?
To me, it has to be Rolston. Clearly more versatile and perhaps a bit more productive. He’s older and more expensive, but clearly more durable and is off the books at the end of next season.
To me the Islanders got slightly better and more flexible (cap and roster) in exchange for taking a bad contract from the Devils. And seriously, Lou’s going to figure out a way to sign Parise, so why not make yourself the benefactor?
Works for me. Thoughts?
True
Lou is one of the smarter hockey people.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 28, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Botta
Got to give him credit, he’s kept himself relevant
many would have simply dissapeared
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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.
A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.
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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.
Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.
