Yashin, Gandler, Sovetsky Sport: Your annual OMG thread

katie strang is useless as a reporter. she’s got nothing the team doesn’t give her and her writing is devoid of any research, depth or character. me thinks she is being played.

And I still tend to view these annual updates and the carefully worded statements that accompany them in the same light. I sleep better that way.

Besides, when has Russian media ever led us astray before?

Ottawa not Dallas

…without him actually playing a handful of games. I DO NOT want to see Yash taking any ice time from anybody on the roster. But I think it might be nice to have him in camp, and maybe even hang around for a while. Does he have a guest house?
The Islanders might (MIGHT) havea considerable Russian pressence in a few years. Yash has always seemed to be a pretty level headed guy, even through the worst of times. He always acted like a gentleman.
If they could sign him for a year, and let him go through camp with the kids and then waive him to the AHL to act as kind of a player coach (like Wotton has been with the defenseman)… it might not be such a bad thing if Thompson buys in.
But to be clear… I do not see an NHL lineup that includes Yashin at any point unless he competes for a spot just like any camp invitee.

If Yashin is around then (or ever) we’re ALL in touble

If you look closely, the right sides arm is broken, giving left the advantage and ultimately, the win.

… the things that made yashin a poor fit weren’t “infectious” to a team environment. It’s been a while, but I’m pretty sure I witnessed every one of Yashin’s games as an Isle. He didn’t stop an offensively challenged team from getting to the playoffs. He didn’t stop a team in systematic transition from getting to the playoffs. He didn’t stop a team with almost no talent at all from getting to the playoffs. He didn’t make guys like Parrish and Hunter slower… he didn’t stop Jason Blake from scoring 40 goals.
Yashin was a guy whose talents did not fit the talent that people labeled him with. He was a proponent of conservative motion… some people thought he was lazy (myself included), but the guy knew where he was most effective and he went there. He was a “trailing forward” who would distribute or shoot from behind the play, or he’d set up in the left circle and do the same from there.
I think his heart was questioned under Nolan… and the for soem unknown reason, all reason and logic was thrown out the door to make room for somebody else… somebody who never got here.
Do I want Yashin back… NO. But I think he would be a good OFF ICE influence on the kids. especially the european kids who may be adjusting to North America for the first time… even the ones that have had a few years in Canada playing junior. Yashin was a MAN when he got here. He was shy, but he wasn’t immature. He was also wealthy. And he knew how to occupy himself without getting into troouble in the GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD.
When one of those kids says he’s board on Long Island I’d much rather have him be guided by a guy like Yash, then fall into the Jersey Shore culture that exists on every shore. That goes for ALL THE KIDS, not just the European kids.
USUALLY, when you start out in the right circles you stay in the right circles. This team doesn’t have a Doug Weight on the ice, or focused on the teams day to day anymore… maybe having Yash around in camp wouldn’t be a negative. MAYBE… but I wouldn’t squash it before we heard all the options.

He might also work well in camp as a C in split squad situations. Or maybe as a RH LW on a second PP unit. If you were looking for a bridge to Strome/Kabanov that might help make Comeau available for a larger deal… just sayin.
There is NO WAY I’d prefer YOYOs over COZOs but one other thing to factor in is that Yash went to the playoffs 4 out of the 5 years he was here… and there was no way Sterling was getting that group to the playoffs… no way.

Maybe I could learn to live with a 3rd line of Nino-Yashin-Comeau…if only for a season. Strome could bump Frans down to 3rd center next year

1st round draft picks.

anyone in the system take that spot. Be it the Rahk or Ullstrom or or Dibo OR ANY OTHER PLAYER IN THE SYSTEM.

My immediate resistance to the concept is due to:
1) Age
2) Years away from the NHL (four!)
3) The fact I think this is an annual charade that only works people up, and thus makes my life more miserable.

Hmmm…also want to see it on a jersey, but:

1. Like the idea of a non-traditional shape (neither circle nor triangle…wings shape) but not certain of the execution, which looks a bit minor league. If those wings are a nod to the old Falcons, then that’s cool.
2. Not sold on the retro-ish font … how long can we count on thinking retro is so cool?
3. That shoulder patch (the circle, I presume) is cool enough. Interesting little detail. Maple Leaf Overdrive is a bit much for me, but hey, I’m not a MAKE IT SEVEN/EIGHT/NINE guy.
4. Here is the constant problem of the name Jets and how Winnipeg has employed it: Jets change over time! That silhouette looks overly generic, but you’re sort of stuck with what you do anyway because it’s a jet: You want an airliner or a fighter?

Could have been much worse; was hoping for a little better. Was hoping to be inspired.

Kind of looks like an Air Force (or Royal Canadian Flying Mounties or whatever they have up there) logo rather than a hockey one. And doesn’t really do anything to capture speed like the old one.

You can see from the Aviators’ website:

http://newyorkaviators.com/view/brooklynaviators/home-page

If I recall correctly, I think the old Aviators logo was even more similar.

… it’s sponsored by Labatt’s Blue.

I mean hey, it’s insurance regardless. I just feel veeeery nervous about what kind of NHL shape he’s in after four seasons away. He still put up points, but at what cost to the all-around game? KHL competition still does not compare to NHL competition, so I’d just be nervous.

Yashin, at this point, is absolutely on the downside of his career, and I’m feeling that even if he gets 50 points is being extremely generous. I still feel that this is more of a feeler/throwing this guy a bone than actually giving him a spot in the lineup. At this point, Yashin might as well just retire (38, ousted from two leagues, only NHL team reaching out to him is the one with the owner he has a personal relationship with). He may have been a great guy, but if my memory serves me correct, he was a bit of a streaky player with the Islanders, even when he did manage 50 – 70 points a season.

My biggest question is, how is his defensive game? We all know how he is offensively, but it’s been a while since I paid attention to stats and I’m wondering how his defensive game holds up.

If it did happen, he would be taking the place of Josh Bailey.

I get you points, The problem is Yashin has a bad reputation with the Isles fans, and around the NHL. why make this public now? why not wait until after the Aug 1st vote? Even if he is to take a vacated spot due to MAJOR trade for a top flight Dman, why make this public now? doesn’t make sense IMO

You said much, much better what I tried to say a few posts ago LOL.

what makes any of you think that “60% heart” Yashin is a good role model for Kabanov? Bc hes Russian? Maybe I missed the fact on the inside of the Snapple bottle that said that Russians are notoriously good babysitters.

I have no idea who all his other clients are… but I think he represents a number of Russians/Europeans.

I have never heard that Yash had any kind of an alcohol problem.
Or is this a joke because he is Russian?

(is it possible to negotiate a termination of a buyout if the team is bringing back the player?)In short, no. The Sens are even still double-paying Alfredsson.

First off, any trade involving that combination of players would probably not get us Doughty or Weber. You would most likely need a cheap, NHL-proven D to replace Doughty (you’re looking at trading MacDonald – LA would not take Eaton’s $3m price tag, especially since they’re so close to the cap), Bailey probably, next year’s #1 and probably a prospect in the Kabanov/Nelson/Lee range. Anything less would absolutely be madness on LA’s part. They would probably be dumping about $7 million in cap space and acquiring only $2m if the only players we give up are MacDonald and Bailey.

Bailey + Eaton + a prospect or 2 + a draft pick or 2 + Nabokov could attract a Weber or Doughly

It just cannot. Who is the featured player in that deal? We’re talking about some of the most revered and not-yet-prime D-men in the game, then we have to give up serious assets, not just spare parts. The best players in that scenario are an average defensean, an average goalie, and a 21-year-old whose ceiling is probably a two-way #2 center.

If I’m L.A. or Nashville the conversation would start with two-plus of Strome, Hamonic, Okposo, Nielsen. Remember that there is no urgency for either team to trade their RFA — one’s headed to arbitration, one will eventually have to sign his Q.O. if he doesn’t agree to a longer deal. But in every case both players are still in their team’s control and the team will not have to make a parting decision on them for another year or two.

Everyone who thinks that a Yashin signing would in any way relate be insurance for assets to trade for a massive fish like Doughty or Weber, you need to remember that any deal like that starts with one of our top 6 forwards and one of our top 2 defensemen.

Also remember that when Boston dumped Kessel for two #1s, they didn’t really believe in him, were pressed up against the cap ceiling and had to make a move, and had reasonable expectation they were receiving two top 10 picks.

All Yashin resentment aside, the reason that they got rid of him last time was due to a lack of production as well as a lack of heart. His production does not seem to have increased seeing how he has played in the KHL since his Isles stint and his agent is already laying out the ground work for his future poor performance. Knowing that he was once a premiere forward in the NHL how likely do you think he will be to accept 3rd line minutes regardless of how friendly he is with Wang?

He was noted as somewhat of a locker room cancer in the first go around and just imagine what kind of damage a disgruntled/unsatisfied Yashin would do on the 3rd line. This team is close right now and bringing him in would prove to be a distraction to what they are trying to build IMO.

The thought of placing COZO with Yashin just scares me altogether. True that you are taking Hunter out of the equation and that could be a good thing but I don’t believe that Yashin is the answer.

Let him go to Florida where Carol Alt can bask in the Florida sun and he can pound all the Blue Lagoons that he wants.

Think about it, Yashin loves the LW side. Yashin isn’t playing a top 6 wing in favor of Grabs or Moulson. Yashin isn’t likely playing LW in favor of Comeau either. So it’s likely Center and/or trading Comeau/Bailey/Nielsen to open that spot. Packaging Bailey/Comeau/Nielsen + a pick or 2 could return a decent top 4 d-man, so it would make sense. I’m not saying I’m in favor of this, but it’s my guess.

i believe the isles are around 9 mil under the cap floor? if Bailey and Comeau cover a $4 mill cap hit, add Yashin at around $1.5 (guessing here) that still leaves $4.5 to make up. If Yashin is signed i don’t see how Nino will even fit into the roster. There still has to be a major acquisition to cover the remaining space to reach the cap floor