Blood In The Atlantic Waters?
One of the regrets that's been mentioned is that the Islanders happen to play in the Atlantic Division. A Division which has been dominant recently. Going into last season the Atlantic had three teams which were considered Stanley Cup contenders, in the Flyers (2010 Cup Finalist) Penguins (2008 Cup Finalist, 2009 Cup Winner) and Devils (99+ points in every season since lockout, division winners 4 times in 5 post-lockout seasons). Along with them, the Rangers are a perennial playoff team as long as Henrik Lundqvist is injury free and on top of his game.
It's well known that the Islanders have basically been steamrolled by the Flyers for the last few years. But the Islanders have pretty much been the Atlantic's whipping boy the last few years, going 6-13-5 last year, 7-15-2 in 2010 and 4-17-3 in 2009. The last time the Islanders challenged for a playoff spot, they went 15-15 in the division. If they want to make the playoffs, they are going to have to win against Atlantic teams. Last season only the Phoenix Coyotes had a losing record in their own division, going 11-12-2. The Islanders went 2-4 against the Penguins. They were also 2-4 in games against the Devils. They also went 2-4 against the Rangers.
But the events of last season and this offseason might have given a boost to the Islanders and their hopes of competing in the Atlantic. To say that there is blood in the water might be an understatement...
Our first target is the Flyers. With a promising young goalie in Sergei Bobrovsky they proceeded to trade for Ilya Bryzgalov and give him a nine year deal. While they gave this huge deal to Ilya, they had to clear out capspace by trading two of their key young players, Jeff Carter and Mike Richards. This during what most people consider a downswing in the Goalie market. How depressed is the Goalie market? The other top target for teams in need of Goaltending, Thomas Vokuon, didn't even get a call on the first day and in the end only had two teams interested in his services. The 1.5 million deal that Vokuon signed with the Capitals could have easily fit under the Flyers cap, wouldn't have required gutting the roster and meant that the future in net would be Bob.
The Flyers also added Jaromir Jagr. The same Jagr who managed 19 goals in the KHL last season, 3 goals less then Ex-isled Chris Simon. To make matters worse, it looks like Chris Pronger is going to miss training camp again. The former Whaler is about to turn 37 and has been suffering from assorted injuries since playing through them during the Flyers cup run. Just for a refresher, Pronger is signed through 16-17 and makes 7 Million until 14-15.
Second is the Penguins. They overcame injuries to Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin last year as they rode a strong defensive core, great play by Marc-Andre Fluery and hard work by relative no-name forwards. But there are still question marks about Crosby's health. While it does appear that Malkin will be back in time for the season, he is returning from a serious ACL/MCL tear. Just ask Trent Hunter what an MCL tear can do to your career.
They've also lost two key roleplayers in Maxime Talbot and Michael Rupp. While not the greatest players on the team, each of them could play their role to a T. As we've seen with the Islanders moving to upgrade Zenon Konopka with Marty Reasoner, you can not underestimate the importance of 4th liners. These guys are going to be out there for at least 10 minutes a game, and they have to know how to play.
Third is the Devils. How a team adds someone that is as talented as Ilya Kovalchuk and nosedives as bad as they did is beyond understanding. While Jacques Lemaire showed up and saved the day, the team is facing a bunch of questions with him not returning. The least of which is can the next coach can Kovy to produce? Was it just a down year for a team that's been outstanding for nearly 20 years, or a sign that the rest of the league has caught up with the Devils.
Then there's Martin Brodeur. Last season was his 3rd worst season in terms of Save Percentage. It was tied for his 3rd worst season in terms of GAA. Both of these include his 4 game stint when he was 22. This came as he also faced the lowest number of shots in recent history (discounting his injury shortened season). They also brought back 37 year old Johan Hedberg, who had a strong season last year (for him) but isn't a long term solution.
Finally the Rangers. If this was any other team the addition of Brad Richards would give them an outside shot at winning the division. Unless of course the team is GM'ed by Glen Sather, who has a history of giving out big contracts which become duds. I expect a strong first season out of Richards, with Gaborik playing about half the seasons games and then he just trails off from there. Then someone will step in and trade for Richards, so the Rangers can go out and sign another big free agent who will tax their cap space in an eternal cycle. If it wasn't for the cap floor, the Rangers couldn't dump any of these contracts.
Of course any prediction of how the Rangers might do is always reliant on Queen Henri continuing his string of ridiculous seasons. Henri lead the league last year with 11 shutouts. He also had a total of 36 wins. Nearly a third of his wins last season came from shutouts. In a 6 year career Henri has racked up 406 games played already. That's 12th among active goalies, with him taking over both Marc-Andre Fleury and Ryan Miller. While Biron played well, he suffered a collarbone injury at the deadline which ended his season. Biron will be the backup again next year, but while he can do spot duty and give Henri a rest, he's not reliable full time if Henri goes down.
Given the injuries and questions on other teams, it looks like the Islanders can really make up ground on their Atlantic rivals if they stay healthy. This is probably the biggest dip in competition in the Atlantic in a few years. Considering that a quarter of all games the Islanders play next season will be against the Atlantic, the path to the playoffs begins in Division.
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I hate the Rangers (duh)
And like everyone else, I think the Richards contract is too long and too expensive. Unfortunately, I also think that for this year and maybe next, he’s exactly what that team needed.
While I never root for injuries, I fear that the only way the Rangers don’t take the division is if they get injured.
Proud to root for the Jets, Mets, and Islanders!!!
agreed
A Healthy Gaborik, a Richards that plays at the level he can play and Henrik playing all season they could challenge for the Division. But I still think it’ll be in the hands of the Penguins if Crosby starts the season healthy and at his normal level.
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I root for Rangers players to get injured.
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by Pauly C on Jul 14, 2011 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
me too
i would love to check out SI.com one morning, about a week into camps, and see a story where Richards and Gaborik collided in a freak accident during practice and broke each other’s legs.
by nullzero00 on Jul 14, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
can't say that I agree
I’d rather just beat them with a better team.
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by mikb on Jul 14, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
As much as I say that I like to cheer on the paramedics, you can’t replace a victory against a teams starting lineup.
by metalcoconut on Jul 14, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
So you're saying you wouldn't shake the ambulance as it leaves the building?
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Can't Say I Agree
I’d rather just beat them with a bat or a stick or both
by IslesFanForLife on Jul 14, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
That's very noble, but I didn't say we need them to be injured to beat them
I just want everything bad, short of death, that can happen to a franchise to happen to the Rangers. I want their star players to get hurt every year for a long time. I want their GM to draft for grit and not for skill. I want them to overhype their prospects and then have them suck when they come up. I want them to never have cap space. I want them to keep signing past-their-prime players to big contracts and then miscast them as a top player. I want their fans miserable ALL THE TIME.
I can’t sit here and pretend like when Callahan broke his ankle last year jsut before the playoffs I wasn’t pretty happy that it happened. I just can’t.
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by Pauly C on Jul 15, 2011 6:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Richards is good.
But I don’t know how the Flyers will cope that they traded all their players away!
I fear that the only way the Rangers don’t take the division is if they get injured.
Man, I’m not even this optimistic.
The Rangers are still pretty clearly behind a healthy Crosby-led Penguins, and crappy year aside, the Devils are going to be the pain in the ass they are always are.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 14, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
And I wouldn't count out the other two teams either ;-)
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 14, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
The Flyers will be interesting.
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That’s a word for it. And while you guys will be annoying, I don’t see you as division champion material just yet.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 14, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
But if Isles somehow have good, steady goaltending and only 100-200...
…man-games lost to injury, never know.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 14, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
...and maybe I'm a Chinese jet pilot.
Sorry I couldn’t resist throwing that into the discussion. However, I’ll buy into your delusions of grandeur if the Isles are in 3rd or higher by January.
by metalcoconut on Jul 14, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
How does the Chengdu FC-1 handle?
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OK
Maybe I’m a one armed German astronaut.
by metalcoconut on Jul 16, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I will settle for the Isles being "very, almost alarmingly annoying"
This season anyway.
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This is pretty much the narrative that plays over and over and over in my head since July 2nd.
I’m pretty optimistic about at least 3 teams in this division starting their downcycle (maybe? hopefully?) .
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The Flyers
Might have a down season, but they are going to be a very good team again shortly.
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the only team that really concerns
is the Blueshirts
the Flyers have had it
the Devils aren’t what they were
the Pens are ours to be had – we will look back on THAT Pens game as this franchise’s turning point
Tough
Our division will continue to be a challenge to us because of the physicality of the teams.
The Blueshirts will improve with their new toy and the maturity of their youth. Sather has done something right for once.
The Flyers will be the brawlers again and play the Isles nemesis more than the Pens. We need to add another heavy hitting defenseman against their wave of aggressive players.
The Devils are a team in transition. Many of their players are getting old including Brodeur. Getting Zach P. back will help them as well as Larsson. They need help scoring….which they haven’t addressed.
Pens depends on the Sid. The exceeded expectations last season, with the help of the league, but that one gone of forever. My prediction for the end of the year:
Pens
Rags
Isles
Flyers
Devils
But we need another defenseman to make this happen or forward or both.
The legacy of the ...
vermine Rangers is replete with guys who starred somewhere else and mysteriously dimmed when they got to ‘Broadway.’ And a beautiful thing that is. Richards is a really good playmaker and good player overall, but I won’t be at all surprised if he also doesn’t quite reach his prior level of play here.
I definitely agree fwith the thought that the division has tightened up and I think there’s no reason our Islanders even as currently constituted can’t compete really well on a nightly basis. But not only is there is still room and time for more improvement, sometimes special things just happen to a particular group at a particulat time. I saw some things last year that hinted at that kind of cohesion with these guys. I wish camps opened today.
I'd almost guarantee Richards doesn't reach his prior level of play
He hasn’t really been at that level in a while. Their best hope is that he turns their PP into dynamite (possible), that Dubinsky and Callahan are signed, healthy and happy (also possible), and they can keep Richards from being overmatched too much.
It’ll be interesting to see how Gaborik fits their new mix.
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Another big question is: Will he fold under the pressure of playing in the biggest media market in the world?
There’s going to be a heavy focus on him from Day 1.
Now, how intense does that scrutiny become if the NFL and NBA lockouts are still going when the season starts?
The media can only pick apart the Yanks if they’re in the playoffs or check out early, and if there’s no Jets, Giants and Knicks to write about…gee, wonder what team (more to the point, what enormous contract on what team) will draw the attention of the New York media.
Even if the NFL’s back, if the Knicks are out of the picture for a long time, unless the Isles are off to some sort of white hot start that blows everybody’s minds, The Rags are under the microscope and Richards is under the bus, right or wrong.
We’ll see how he handles it.
Jeff Carter to Columbus? Wait, I've seen this one before, it was called Shanahan to Hartford. Advice? Don't buy a Carter jersey.
by BrassBonanza10 on Jul 14, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It'll be interesting to see how reallignment works out
We have the very real possibility of adding more games against the Caps and/or Boston. It’s scary but we might end up with an even tougher division then we already have.
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its true
But the good thing you can take out of that is that our players will keep being so used to playing against a very high level of competition.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Jul 14, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes
Division strength is a good thing for the best 10 teams in the league.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 14, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
There's also the possibility of Pittsburgh going to another divison
Or even the Flyers for that matter, but that may wind up meaning that the Isles could get lumped in a division with the Bruins, Leafs, Sabres, Senators and Habs (along with the Devils and Rags - I don’t see the NHL trying to break up the 3 local teams into different divisions).
Its great to watch this team’s slow steady progress. Elsewhere, I wonder what the hell teams are doing. The Flyers overpayed for a goalie and dumped a hell of a lot of offense. The Rangers picked up Richards who is past his prime. Devils and Pens haven’t done much this summer. I’ll say it again. Teams overpay for what is available and not what they need.
Blood in the Atlantic Waters
and the San Jose Sharks are poised to eat the entire division
Pr*j*ct**ns lead to long term injuries, just ask the asian guy from Inception
pfft
Everyone knows there aren’t Sharks in the north Atlantic.
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by Semi_Colon on Jul 14, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sometimes that shark he looks right into ya. Right into your eyes. And, you know, the thing about a shark… he’s got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn’t seem to be living… until he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then… ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Jul 14, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
$10,000 for me by myself
For that you get the head, the tail, the whole damn thing.
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by PGI on Jul 14, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We're gonna need a bigger defenseman.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Jul 14, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Christian Ehrhoff...
…June, 2011… he broke my heart!
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Maybe we should bring the Fisherman back
Pr*j*ct**ns lead to long term injuries, just ask the asian guy from Inception
by ArsenalLI on Jul 14, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I nsee what you did here.
STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jul 14, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i love that pic of Haley beating the #$%%$ out of Avery
good times
by Torch7 on Jul 14, 2011 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Oh, the tears of a clown
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Such a great crop
And appropriate for WebBard’s bloody headline.
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I hope the Devils
Hire another beloved former player as their coach who turns out to be slightly in over his head behind the bench in the NHL and derails their season for the first 40-50 games or so. Candidates include Chris Terreri, Sergei Brylin and Mike Peluso.
Chances are they’ll return to their machine-like ass-kicking ways after a season off. And who knows what to expect from Philly, Pittsburgh or the Rangers.
But the real issue to me is that the Islanders must find ways to beat these teams. And not just for the morale boost. They cannot continue to lose valuable points against the teams they play the most.
"It's too bad he lives in the city. He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent Paul Kraus during Palffy's contract holdout in 1998.
Technically they could lose those valuable points, but only if they beat every other team in the league all the time. They could aim to go 58-24-0 and lose every divisional game. Realistic? No.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Jul 14, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not worried about the Rags
Their defense is quite suspect and not deep at all. While they had some guys that had a nice half of a season last year, they need to prove they can repeat that this year. How many teams have looked good up front but bc of a weak blue line have not even made the playoffs. The Isles definitely have an opportunity to move to the middle of the Atlantic standings this year.
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Staal, Girardi, McDonagh all faced tough competition last year and did okay. Erixon according to people who watch SEL is top-4 caliber at both ends of the ice. MDZ and Sauer should get better, and I think they’ll acquire one more depth defenseman. It’s not dynamic offensively, but more than competent.
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by red army line on Jul 14, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems kind of similar to Isles'
But without an offensive threat like Streit.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 14, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that different. We’re very young on the back end, but as RAL said, our top 4 was more than adequate defensively (Sauer’s QoC isn’t as strong as McDonagh because he spent the 1st half of the year on the 3rd pair, but he was perfectly acceptable when moved up)
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by George E. Ays on Jul 14, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Erixon is an aggravating wild card
Dammit.
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The offense looks good enough to compete in the Atlantic.
Easily better than the Devils, can definitely compete with the Flyers and Rangers, but probably still not as good as the Penguins. The defense is still probably 5th in the Atlantic even with Mark Streit back. It will come down to health and goaltending.
Malkin and Crosby
…are such big question mark, regarding their health, especially Malkin. I realize the Pens played pretty well without them, but take away a couple role forwards (Talbot and Rupp) and the chemistry may fall apart. (Plus, who knows what kind of player Cooke will be with Shanahan’s eye in the sky.) Sullivan and Neal have potential to add quite a bit…. I think a lot depends on the health of Crosby.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 14, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Crosby and MAF
With Crosby they’ll win the East. They’re that good with him and he’s that good of a player (if he returns to form, which I think he will). Plus, you still need to get the puck past their good D and past Fleury who held the team on his shoulders last year. No easy task.
by edavidmorris on Jul 14, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Washington to win the East now
…with their acquisitions: Vokoun (by for the biggest), Brouwer, and Ward. They look solid all-around. Perhaps a little shallow up front, but we shall see. Boston also has to be in the mix after not losing much. And they can still trade either Rask or Thomas. I thought the West was quite a bit stronger than the East last season, but this season maybe the East will be stronger.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 14, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Uplifting article!
I feel like I can run through a brick wall after reading that.
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-LF
haha, thanks
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I remember back in the early 90's
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 14, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Those are amazing
I don’t know what it is about the Japanese sense of humor.
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ahhhh... that pic of the Haley beating up Avery
I wallpapered my house with it.
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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jul 14, 2011 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
If they put...
…the new coliseum on the other side of Hempstead turnpike could we petition to be moved to the Southeast Division.
Even though Washington and Tampa might be tougher opponents, they won’t be TOUGHER opponents. Playing in the Atlantic takes its toll on a young team. Heck, even the Northeast only really has Boston that BANGS.
In the rock-paper-scissors world of hockey I’m glad Snow hasn’t tried to make out-toughing anybody his goal. They need to find the balance the great Islander teams had, and be able to outdance their opponents whatever music happens to be playing.
We are well on our way…
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Oddly enough
We’ve done better against the West and Northeast then against the Southeast these last two years.
But I think that’s been part of the problem for the Islanders overall. They’ll come out and play great against the Penguins or Flyers, losing by a goal. Then two nights later they come out flat against the Thrashers and get absolutely routed.
They play up/down to the level of their competition.
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by Mark D on Jul 14, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And
to be fair, I think the better teams have taken us fairly lightly for the last few years, especially the ones from the West. We’ve definitely caught a few of them napping.
Detroit and Vancouver are two :-)
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 14, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
That guy Coulton was dominant.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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I love the streaks against the Wings and Hawks
Because pretty much every win, they had no business grabbing. From Joey MacDonald making a Faustian deal with his posts to Peter Manino having the game of his life in Chicago…excellent route to bragging rights.
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We saw a lot...
…of back up goaltenders.
I wonder if that will continue. When you are playing three teams on an east coast swing and you have the Flyers, Rangers or Devils on back to backs with one of the others as your third in four do you really have your best out there for 8K at the coliseum…. but next year maybe somebody will particualrly care about their performance in front of 13K+.
Which reminds me… when is somebody gonna do a “WILL HOWIE BE BACK?” Post. I think the ATL team is still unemployed. They were good, and they might even CARE!!!
Howie is a damn good play-by-play guy… but that really pissed me off (and I hope it pissed off the same people that Billy Jaffe pissed off)… we’ll see. I don’t think any of those guys have long term deals… so that might be an AUG surprise… at least he’ll have the Mets to fall back on… back to Radio howie… not that I particularly care.
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Damn...ATL PBP guy is good
I’m already used to Goring and his wonderful pronunciations, but I would love to have Atlanta’s PBP guy. Of course, I’ve never been a big fan of Howie’s style.
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Time for Howie Rose to Go
After that nonsense during the Atlanta broadcast, he lost me for good. He’s getting older, and it might not be such a bad thing for him to cut back and stick to doing Mets broadcasts only given the length and demands of the baseball season.
I’ve never held it against Howie that he’s a Rangers guy, but when Jiggs was back doing games with Butch, Butch was much better. Howie always seems to be reaching for a joke or some extraneous reference. It’s almost like he can’t believe anyone would want to watch the broadcast for the sake of actually watching the broadcast.
Time for a fresh voice who can stick with the team through the successful times that are definitely coming.
Still need more toughness
Seems that is what Garth was addressing with the two big, rough D-men in the draft. Hoping one pans out. Will Neiderreiter help in that aspect? He didn’t seem very physical in his first 9 NHL games, but he was trying to figure out the system. Also, he has bulked up a little since then, right? Eventually Isles need at least one power forward who throws his body a little (no offense to KO) in the top-6. Two would be great. Maybe Matt Martin will get there eventually.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 14, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Cammalleri thinks Nino is plenty physical
Like he and Briere trade Frans/Nino stories all summer, I’m sure.
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I hope they get to share...
Micheal Haley stories next summer….
“Hey Mike, your nose healed yet?”
“Not really…still tough to breath… well you’re talking, so I guess they took the wires off of your jaw”
“Yeah… but I did learn one thing over the past four months”
“What’s that?”
“My wife’s pea soup SUCKS”
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by JPinVA on Jul 14, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting quote from NHL.com article
De Haan was quoted in prospect camp as saying, “They haven’t really said anything,” he said when asked if the Isles have indicated where he’ll begin the season, “but I’ve been the last cut the past two years, and I think that’s shown what I can do. Obviously I want to make the team this year, but I don’t think they’re going to say much until the deadline comes.”
I didn’t realize he was the last defenseman cut each of the past two seasons. Granted, the top-7 in ‘09-’10 weren’t very good, but imagine being the last cut on D three years in a row. They almost have to give him a chance SOMETIME this season as long as he’s progressing and working hard.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 14, 2011 5:00 PM EDT reply actions
True
Although part of me wonders if the reason for that was they wanted to give him the longest look, and they knew once he was gone he was out of their hands (back in junior vs. still in the org.).
The first year I was initially stunned he lasted so long — there were murmurs about them sincerely hanging on to him for a nine-gamer — but my thinking evolved to figuring it was just a good long look at where he’s at.
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Sounds like John Carlson. He was the 2nd-to-last D cut from Caps training camp the year he was drafted (fall 2008), again in 2009 (both times Alzner made it further), but was up full-time post-deadline in 2010.
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by red army line on Jul 14, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
So what you're saying is...de Haan = Carlson
Too late! You can’t take it back!
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Can't Say I Agree....
I’d rather beat them with a bat
by IslesFanForLife on Jul 14, 2011 5:05 PM EDT reply actions
When I said suspect
I didn’t mean bad, nut like you all summed up…similar to our D. They lost McCabe and, well Gilroy to a point, and I didn;t remember them getting anyone to replace either. I forgot about the Erixon acquisition. Although without any NHL experience I would still stick with my original assessment of suspect. They definitely do have the ability to be solid. Guess that’s why they play the game.
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dang it
this was supposed to be a response for way up above. Guess its going to go ignored now.
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by Chris McNally on Jul 14, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
What does “suspect” mean, then? Unpredictable?
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by red army line on Jul 14, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I was under the impression suspect meant questionable
if I meant bad I wouldve came out and just said bad. I was talking about the Rangers. No need to spare any feelings :)
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Devils are Headed to the Basement for a Long Time
Once Brodeur and Lou-cifer are gone, it’s all she wrote. And they’re pretty awful already. The fan base is gonna disappear too because who’s going to Newark to see a bad team. Heck, the crime has gotten so bad that the Newark Bears are averaging about 700 fans a game.
And by the way, the Devils went through the draft, free agent signings and prospect camp with no head coach. Can you imagine the ridicule and derision that would have been directed at the Islanders if they did that? “Crazy owner.” “Nutty GM.” “Disorganized, cheap team.”
Such is the hockey media: bloated hypocrites when it comes to criticism or in this case, the lack of.
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by Turgeon1992 on Jul 15, 2011 9:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Third is the Devils. How a team adds someone that is as talented as Ilya Kovalchuk and nosedives as bad as they did is beyond understanding.
Not so much when one considers the Parise injury, the historically low team-wide shooting percentages and the overall inadequacy of John MacLean as an NHL head coach.
Then there’s Martin Brodeur.
Marty is average with flashes of brilliance. Average goaltending is all a team needs nowadays, especially if they can keep shots against down, which the Devils are historically pretty good at. I’d be more worried about his recent injury history than his ability to win games. If he goes down, I’m fairly confident in Hedberg filling in, but who’s his backup, Frazee? That worries me way more than Marty slowing down.
Adam Proteua, whom I dislike so much I won't provide a link to, has the Devils as one of his 5 least improved teams
Apparently if you are not signing free agents you aren’t doing enough. A healthy Brodeur (even if not at the level he once was), a healhy Parise, the addition of Larsson, the cleanining up of the Langenbrunner/Arnott slots at the deadline, the addition of Steckel late last season all means a more stable line-up.
Coaching will be a question mark, but for as much as John MacLean made sense to get the job last season, there is no way anyone can do worse in replacing him. It was a bad fit, for a good guy and probably a good coach. I expect the Devils to bounce back, especially since they don’t have first rounder to tank for.
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So far as I know they still have their 2012 first round draft pick, but so long as Lou Lamoriello runs the team they won’t be tanking regardless. Some Devils fans believe winning the lottery this year was some kind of karmic reward for not pulling a Pittsburgh and tanking to get a higher pick.
"Tank" was in jest. I thought they had a two year option to skip their first rounder.
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