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He proofreads his signs.

I am an editor by trade, so I'm much more of a jerk in my day job about how people write than I am here at Lighthouse Hockey. That said, I've received some complaints and questions from valued longtime readers about the quality of some of the FanPosts posted this summer. With more traffic comes more people who feel they absolutely must be heard -- regardless of whether they bother to proofread their own submissions and keep their audience's needs (the #1 rule of writing) in mind.

After a relaxing week on the beach, returning to work -- and returning to such complaints -- puts me in a foul mood. Lighthouse Hockey exists to stir discussion and enable the sharing of intelligent, diverging opinions about our favorite hockey team. That's why we have not traditionally been hard-line strict about policing FanPosts for every English law or AP Stylebook rule. (And to be sure, we authors here make our share of typos.)

However, if you have a wonderful opinion or question worthy of a separate FanPost, you owe it to your fellow reader to help them understand what you're trying to say by being clear and precise. So if you can't be bothered to expend the energy to proof your post, don't be shocked when others ignore it or criticize its content on multiple grounds. As one longtime member told me, "I value Lighthouse Hockey because it's a thoughtful, literate community of Islander fans - something in depressingly short supply on the internet." That sentiment and appreciation for literacy is reflected in our LHH community guidelines.

Star-divide

As community members, it's your job to self-police -- so by all means, ignore (or publicly shame) the FanPosts that strike you as gibberish. As moderators, it's our job to keep an eye out for repeat naughty or juvenile behavior and to incorporate your feedback as much as possible into our moderation without being too overbearing.

Certain exceptions are sometimes made for longtime members who have a valuable schtick that might, to the new user, seem over the line. Like comedy and porn, you just have to know that when you see it.

Finally, if you haven't read the community guidelines to see what we're about, you should. To many, those guidelines are common sense. But if they are too much for you to read and yet you stil feel entitled to whatever the hell you want to do because it's your Internet, then fine. But don't be shocked when this behavior gets you treated as a hostile visitor here. We reserve the right to edit FanPosts to make them readable, to dress them up for front-page featuring, or to hide/delete them when they're simply obnoxious. I trust you understand.

As always, thanks for reading and participating. We don't seek to lecture. We do seek to enable a fun community where people are happy to return.

 

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Finally, and completely off topic, a question for our Nova Scotia members (and any others that qualify): Alexander Keith's -- "Nova Scotia Style" beer -- showed up in my local distribution channel. Should I bother? And if so, which kind? The Brown Ale did not impress me; too sweet for my liking. I'm suspicious of brewers that suddenly find distributor deals, but sometimes you find gems this way. Let me know if you care.

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Clarification of the "grandfather clause"
exceptions are sometimes made for longtime members

Is it the number of posts, years posting, your age, or repetition of a shtick that allows obnoxious (by curious bystander standards) behavior to be tolerated?

Nassau Coliseum lost a veteran and an original Islander fan. ACC 1918-2011

by Hockey1919 on Jul 12, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it might have to do more with every blog on SBN being so independent of one another. So someone might be used to a serious in depth discussion of the team from another SBN blog, come here and take a comment the wrong way without realizing that we’re a relatively laid back community.

I don’t think anyone that’s been here a long time can get away with something that would get anyone else in trouble. But there are a few people who we might use kids gloves with because we know that they have good intentions. We actually rarely use any of the tools available to “moderate” LHH.

For the most part, if you show up and your first comment (or fanpost/fanshot) is flat out trolling, you’ll likely to get banned from posting here. But if we know who you are and you’ve been posting here for a while we’ll probably give you a smack to the back of the head and wonder what has gotten into you.

Even with trolls, in the past we’ve given them the rope to hang themselves in the comment section before banning them unless they were outright obnoxious.

Hopefully that helps to clear it up a little?

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by Mark D on Jul 12, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

More than I was expecting.

I was just hoping it was by age so I could scream at the kids on the lawn and not get in trouble.

Nassau Coliseum lost a veteran and an original Islander fan. ACC 1918-2011

by Hockey1919 on Jul 12, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I've never made a fanpost

As I like the writers here enough.

But surely would never complain about anybody doing it. i guess I have better or worse things to complain about.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jul 12, 2011 6:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I surprised at how serious people take a FANS post...

I can appreciate what he wants tho…I made a fan post once and it was in one big paragraph so the literature police nabbed me…I learned my lesson….

by KO21 on Jul 12, 2011 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

And it’s really not to be an ass! Most if not all of the commenters here really make a lot of sense and some great points. Far more than a lot of sites/blogs out there. When we look in the author dashboard, sometimes the FA fanposts are read more than the front page stories and are linked to other blogs also.

When the idea is great and the format is tough to read, the message is often lost to the reader.

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 8:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

EXACTLY

Too many times folks think we’re just cracking down on their freedom of thought… they get all Walt Whitman (Spontaneous Me!) about it.

Well, not to harp too much, but when you can express yourself with the grace and panache of Walt Whitman, then by all means feel free to ignore all the guidelines of written English. Until then – stick with correct spelling, punctuation, and grammar! They’re only there to help you make the most sense you can. People can’t even begin to engage with your position until they understand it.

We’re only trying to help your contributions, honest.

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Jul 12, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

May it turn as green as Leaves of Grass.

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Jul 12, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

KO, I don't even remember that, but it sounds like me ;)

The point isn’t to be a grammar Nazi of course, but to make everyone’s experience better and — just as important, keep well researched or thought out FanPosts from being constantly bumped by new posts that read like:

i saw this link sumware & i thnk its craazy

There is a fine line here between encouraging open discussion and asking people to take a little time when they’re using the FanPost function. A little nudging from time to time, that’s all.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope these complainers

Don’t post at hockeyfights.com.

They’d never leave their email account complaining about grammar.

“honey, please log off.’

Hold on, sweetie. I have to let the administrator know that SinBinGoon doesn’t capitilize the first letters of his sentences.’

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jul 12, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hockey Fights Punctuation

I’ve gotten deep into a few threads at HF and was amazed at context and content… not so much by punctuation.
I think I made the first reference to one of the fan posts in question here. I even said that I liked the premise, but this site has made me expect more from that type of post. At least take teh time to hit the damn [SHIFT] key when you start a sentence. It tells me that you care.

but the same rules don't apply when you respond

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by JPinVA on Jul 12, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

JP, you you wrote teh instead of the.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jul 12, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

He turned me into a newt!

… well, I got better.

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Jul 12, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do that quite often...

… it made me a little self-conscious when people here talk about TEH CORE. So I’ve decided to take matters into my own hands.

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Don't forget to vote "YES" on Aug 1st!!!
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by JPinVA on Jul 12, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t feel too bad, I’m almost afraid to post on this thread since my spelling and grammar are so bad and my typing skills in no way can keep up with my thought process.

Nassau Coliseum lost a veteran and an original Islander fan. ACC 1918-2011

by Hockey1919 on Jul 12, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

IT was garik, go figure....

But you did agree with him and you broke up my paragraph into parts for me…so its all good

by KO21 on Jul 12, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMG! Dominik acknowledged me in a post!

#Starstruck

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-LF

by Chairman Meow on Jul 12, 2011 7:24 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Now Danny, no one likes a brown nose

Except me, of course.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

the world needs ditch diggers too.

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by JPinVA on Jul 12, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

How'd you like to mow my lawn?

Hmm? Hmm?

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey!

You scratched my anchor!

"It's too bad he lives in the city. He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent Paul Kraus during Palffy's contract holdout in 1998.

by PGI on Jul 12, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess someone doesn't want that LHH scholarship.

I guess you don’t, I guess you don’t! FINE.

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Jul 12, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was the severe anxiety attacks

Fatal.

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dom, you are on a roll today!!!!

Time off did you well!

We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Jul 12, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

ROFL

I love this site! Lomg live LHH!!!

We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Jul 12, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Now you're getting it

I'm the only RFA to get a qualifying offer worth less than the year before

by Chris McNally on Jul 13, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

On the Malarchuk story

I remember being a kid and hearing about it almost like it was yesterday. Although I didn’t really know who he was at the time (I had vaguely heard about him), when I heard what had happened, it was one of those moments that, as a kid, scare the bejeezus out of you.

As an adult, I’ve done a lot of work with children on trauma recovery, and his story was amazing. I had no idea that two people had heart attacks in the arena that night – although I can understand why they did. I wonder how any child who was in the arena that night responded / reacted to it.

It kind of brings my last five days full circle, as when I was forced to watch the Texas Rangers fan death video as I was getting an oil change on my car Friday morning (thanks, Mid Island Hyundai!), I had trouble getting that vision out of my mind, of that poor child sitting there. Just reminds you of the fragility of life.

Proud to root for the Jets, Mets, and Islanders!!!

by CharlieIsles on Jul 12, 2011 7:25 AM EDT reply actions  

I can remember

the NY Daily News printing a picture of him on his knees with blood spurting out several feet from his body. Just frightening. I remember it being worse than this one (SOMEWHAT GRAPHIC INJURY PICTURE!!!), but maybe it was just that it was so terrible I remember it worse than it was.

by afrosupreme on Jul 12, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, just awful

I wonder how it affected Steve Tuttle, the guy whose skate did the cutting.

I must’ve missed the Texas Rangers fan story…kind of don’t want to look now.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t, just move on. Super sad.

by afrosupreme on Jul 12, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

And then

there’s the guy who alomst swan dived out of the stands chasing a HR ball in last night’s Derby.

STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jul 12, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

The worst part of the Ranger fan story is the idiot announcers chuckling about nonsense after the guy falls.

At least with Malarchuk, the announcers had the good sense to respect the severity of what they were watching.

I can’t believe the Texas fan reached so far, so life-threatening far, for a baseball. I wonder how the player who tossed him the ball feels.

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Jul 12, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

The whole thing

is an absolute tragedy. Dom, don’t even think of looking it up unless you want to spend a few hours thinking of nothing else.

Dads (and moms), hug your children extra tight tonight.

Proud to root for the Jets, Mets, and Islanders!!!

by CharlieIsles on Jul 12, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Given that it's Josh Hamilton

with a well documented history of alcohol addiction, and a triumphant story of conquering said addiction (or, more precisely, wresling said addiction into remission) this is a legitimate question.

STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jul 12, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Has Hamilton been playing since the incident?

I don’t really follow baseball anymore.

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Jul 12, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

hard to say

It’s the All-Star Break.

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by mikb on Jul 12, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

He hit a fan in the stands with a foul ball the next day.

by IslesinAZ on Jul 12, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

he actually hit a walk-off homer the in the following game or the one after that.

probably did him good to play and get back on the proverbial horse instead of sitting in the club house letting it eat away at him.

by 54_Fighting on Jul 12, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read somewhere that

Had he been at the other end of the ice, he would not have made it. Luckly he was at the end of the ice be the zamboni entrance and help came to hi quickly.

We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Jul 12, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was the story at the time, for sure

That he was at the zamboni entrance closest to the ambulance, and just a matter of minutes made the difference.

Memories of that night came rushing back when Zednik was cut. But hopefully we’ll never see anything as bad as Malarchuk.

Trivia: Malarchuk was once dealt to Washington with scumbag Dale Hunter to in exchange for the pick that became Joe Sakic, and Gaetan Duchesne (who is now dead, I believe).

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

One of the worst injuries I've ever seen

I mean, MNF won’t even show the old footage of Lawrence Taylor breaking Joe Thiesmann’s leg, or of Napoleon McCallum’s knee injury (which was gruesome and horrifying – saw that on the live broadcast). It’s shocking to see those photos of Malarchuk.

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by mikb on Jul 12, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Worst part for me

is counting heartbeats every time you saw blood spurt out of Malarchuk’s neck.

Nassau Coliseum lost a veteran and an original Islander fan. ACC 1918-2011

by Hockey1919 on Jul 12, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

The video is on YouTube.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Jul 12, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man

You can’t even Google “Malarchuk” without 8 photos of the bloody scene popping up.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember reading that the trainer who rushed to his help was an ex-Vietnam medic, and he pinched the artery until they got to the hospital.

I also remember watching something about the incident, and Malarchuk was interviewed saying, “I can’t die on the ice, not in front of everyone.”

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Jul 12, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

also he'd of been dead had it not been for the quick action of the trainer

the guy literally shoved his fingers in his throat and held the artery closed all the way to the hospital!

by 54_Fighting on Jul 12, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those who like it, like it a lot

Alexander Keith’s traditional IPA is decent, but I’m not a huge fan of their other brews. The U.S. distribution rights are owned by Labatt USA, so there’s a good chance that Alexander Keith’s will be expanding their distribution coverage further.

My current beer of choice is brewed by some Red Sox fans - Wachusett Brewing Company’s Green Monsta IPA.

As for FanPosts/FanShots, I’ve noticed that I’ve used them sparingly in posting new material, and some of the times I’ve used that option was to highlight something that someone may have missed or wouldn’t have otherwise seen.

by Dougtone on Jul 12, 2011 7:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks!

I saw some good things about the IPA, so I’ll have to try that.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

fan post

I’m not sure if i just don’t understand the whole javascripting or whatever programming language is involved with the Fan post editor, but in my recent post about the defensive pairings, i didn’t care for the way one would create the entry.

I used whichever of the two methods that it doesn’t automatically default to (HTML maybe?), and was able to place lines of space between sentences/thoughts, then when i went to preview/post, it jumbles it all into one long paragraph.

I think that if the format/method for entering a fanpost were the same as entering a comment, it might make it easier to read just based on the simple “it shows up exactly as you type it” principle.

by nullzero00 on Jul 12, 2011 7:39 AM EDT reply actions  

The two views are “Visual View” and “HTML View”

Visual view works exactly as you describe, it shows up as you type it.

If you use HTML view, you will need to add HTML tags to set spacing and what not.

Really, the Visual View should work fine and should be the view you use 99% of the time. The real use of HTML View is so you can insert embed codes for videos into your post.

Plus you can always Preview your post before you post it. I abuse the preview button quite often when I’m writing to make sure stuff shows up where/how I want it.

I hope that helped.

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by Mark D on Jul 12, 2011 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another more annoying way of doing it

Is typing the post up in Word an then using the copy from word button on the toolbar in the story editor. The bonus is that you can spellcheck and grammar check easier and the spacing is all set.

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 8:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i tried typing into the visual view, but it wouldn’t let me click into it to actually start typing, and it began with a string of characters already in the text body.

since i couldn’t get Visual view to work, and HTML was forcing me to add coding to get spaces, i just went with what the final result was.

by nullzero00 on Jul 12, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Weird

Sometimes it’s momentarily buggy for me, but returns to normal within minutes. I have to do so many posts that I’m sort of immune to temporary glitches.

If you’re up to it (and I totally understand if you’d rather not bother), you can briefly describe the problem and what browser and OS you were using and send that to support@sbnation.com. Even if you’re not looking for a fix, the more duplicate reports of the same problem they receive, the more likely they are to figure out whether it’s a persistent issue or something else.

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

The WYSIWYG view should be the default view

But definitely let us know or email support@sbnation.com with any glitches in the system you find.

This isn’t meant to chide people for making FanPosts that lack the pretty; it’s meant to remind people that we’re all better off when people treat those as something readers don’t have to struggle just to read.

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Free "Secret" Agent

I think the best signing on that list could be the one that NOBODY ever talks about. Bringing Jack back was almost a given last year. How did he ever get on that list. He’s only 25, and was making $550K… which means a qualifying offer would have been ~$600K and a roster spot. Did he DEMAND a one-way? Would it really have mattered if they signed him and exposed him to waivers a few times a year. They most certainly haven’t replaced him with an NHL vet.
BRING JACK BACK!

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by JPinVA on Jul 12, 2011 7:46 AM EDT reply actions  

I can't believe that Jason Gregoire was signed for 900k a year

And Jack still doesn’t have a job anywhere. Weird.

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 8:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I wonder if Snow wasn't trying to do him a favor...

He probably felt he was worth more on the “open” market, than with the Islanders. The Isles should have a starting 6 with Eaton and Mottau coming back, add Wishart to the list of players in front of Hillen on the depth chart because they’re going to see how he fits into the NHL plans and they were almost sure to sign an NHL Vet to make Wishart and Mottau (7 & 8).
Streit-UFA
MacDonald-Hamonic
Eaton-Jurcina
Mottau-Wishart
Katic-Reese
That’s a pretty full list without Hillen. But much like Meyer last year, by december we were wishing that we had a healthy Meyer who was coming on at the end of 2009-10. Now that (1) doesn’t look like it’s going to happen, and Hillen isn’t going to get $1M from anybody, maybe a $650K two way can be worked out. They probably can’t afford a one way $650 contract given that if they are all healthy (play 65 games) Hillen only plays under 20 NHL games. What would work for me would be Mottau being traded before the deadline….

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by JPinVA on Jul 12, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bit of a difference with Meyer

Was that as Benhansa pointed out at the time, Meyer was a better defenseman according to the advanced stats then Eaton.

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by Mark D on Jul 12, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see a huge difference there...

… I’m not versed enough(no matter how hard Garik tries) to actually make an advanced stats argument either way, but I think Hillen, post Finn, is a top six puck mover on this team. He may not hit, but he is TOUGH. He may not move bodies, but he moves his own to be in good position. My one big problem with Jack is that he does not elude BIG hits as well as small man should. But the little bastard gets up after every damn hit, never shows undisciplined retaliation and gets back into the flow of play.
…and my money would be on him having pretty good advanced stats post Finn. Before the arrival of his son, and during the Islander Face faze he was about 12th on the depth chart. Before that period, and afterwards he was a pretty solid third pair NHL defender with good puck moving and decision making skills… and a solid bargain at <$600K.
Eaton just doesn’t impress me as doing anything that well… though he does most things at a level consistent with NHL expectations. You just won’t see Eaton using his instinct to activate into a play in the offensive end. You won’t see him making tape to tape passes under duress. He’ll play conservitavely killing an option in the first scenario, and dump the puck in the second. Where he is the better option between the two is he’ll rarely take a huge hit from somebody who outweighs him by 60 lbs… but that’s because there is nobody in the NHL who is 275lbs that can catch him. Eaton @ $3M v Hillen @$600K… I’d take Hillen every time… and use the extra money to get a John Erskine @$1.2M.. and still have enough left over for beer!

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by JPinVA on Jul 12, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eaton @ $3M v Hillen @$600K… I’d take Hillen every time… and use the extra money to get a John Erskine @$1.2M.. and still have enough left over for beer!

Unless you were trying to get to the Floor. Which might also be why both Bruno and Hillen are gone. The Islanders needed to open a space to be able to carry Wishart on the NHL roster, and they might need to have De Haan on the NHL roster just so they can be above the cap floor.

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by Mark D on Jul 12, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or just sign Jack for $3M.

…and he can send us 10% of the $2.4M he would ahve signed for otherwise… I mean… that’s fair, right? I’m pretty sure that kickback logic was at thetable with Wang, Dipietro, Milbury and a bottle of scotch.
“Listen kid, you’re worth about $6 for three years… I’ll get you $60M for 15years, and you only have to show up for five… just let me do the talking… when this is all done you give your agent 15% of everything and I’ll just take 10% of the $54 million I’m getting you… and whatever you do keep that damn knee brace and those crutches under the table… now be quiet, here he comes…Hey Charles, we were just talking about you…”

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by JPinVA on Jul 12, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm on board with this

We can alternate chants.

BRING BACK JACK!

by afrosupreme on Jul 12, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll use the 70's version

Get back Jack.

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 8:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Copy Cat

or is that Funky Cat? Elton John was never good at diction.

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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jul 12, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

It’s actually Honky Cat.

Keith, on the other hand, is chanelling his inner Donald Fagan.

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by mikb on Jul 12, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I am Jack's SPC.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess we're not supposed to talk about it huh?

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If you're even remotely famous

You should probably stay the hell away from “single engine aircraft”.

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 8:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Sound advice

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

LHH

has a lot of favorite turtles don’t we?

Constantly building for the future.

by pgat28 on Jul 12, 2011 8:34 AM EDT reply actions  

PENNSYLVANIA’S STATE TURTLE

Ha, that is great lol.

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by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Believe it or not, they keep track of things like that

Fortunately, Pennsylvania doesn’t have one….so who wants to start the “Vote for Talbot” movement?

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by CharlieIsles on Jul 12, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, to pile on the comments, in no particular order of importance

(1) Welcome back, Dom, we missed you.

(2) On the issue of presentation, I, too, come from a long line of newspaper editors, although that is not my chosen profession. There is little that one can do more completely to undermine anything one says than to present the material in such a way that it cannot be read easily. It is one thing to commit typos; we all do that (me mpore than many, I suspect). However, to make a post — whether a Fan Post or just a comment — without so much as a passing effort at grammar, syntax and puctuation (and note, Dom, the intentional omission of the Oxford comma), opens one fairly, in my opinion, to scorn ridicule and embarrassment.

(3) I would love to see Kevin Poulin, by his play, grab hold and never let go of the #1 job. And in keeping with (2), Dom, please let the islanders know that, generally, the past tense of “to shine” is “shone”, not “shined”. TYIA.

(4) From Nova Scotia, I have nothign to add to the areener debate except, JFC, get ’er done.

(5) I echo the comments above, sign Jack Hillen.

(6) Who will liklely have the #1 draft pick in 2014? We should trade a lot to get it, because Nathan MacKinnon got traded to Halifax yesterday. Cole Harbour, Nova Scotia’s latest Sydney Crosby: coming soon to a QMJHL arena near you.

(7) Oh, let me wax melodic.

Finally, and completely off topic, a question for our Nova Scotia members (and any others that qualify): Alexander Keith’s — “Nova Scotia Style” beer — showed up in my local distribution channel. Should I bother? And if so, which kind? The Brown Ale did not impress me; too sweet for my liking. I’m suspicious of brewers that suddenly find distributor deals, but sometimes you find gems this way. Let me know if you care.

I think I qualify as someone who cares; I grew up on the stuff. You can get the skinny on Alexander Keith at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Keith

The tag line of “Those who like it, like it a lot” has already been used here, so I won’t go into that. I also won’t go into how the best spokesman/shiller for a beer, apart from the Budweiser Clydesdales, umm, turned out to be a child pornographer.

Alexander Keith’s India Pale Ale (and btw, I wouldn’t call it “Nova Scotia Style” beer, since there is nothing distinctively “Nova Scotian” about it and it apparently has little resemblance to the standard IPA) has been brewed in Halifax since the 1820s. It started in a small brewery in downtown Halifax, which is still known as the Brewery Market. The Company was acquired by Oland’s breweries, which was bought by Labatt, which was bought by Interbrew, now Anheuser-Busch.

I do not know what, if any, effect the mass brewing carried out by A-B or Labatt’s has done to the product, since we still get the original here. I wouldn’t recommend any of the “fancy” labels, but a good and true ice cold IPA is a glorious treat of which to speak with your grandchildern (look, both a typo and incredibly pompous grammar/syntax in the same sentence)

To be sure, it’s actually better at room temperature, since that is how it was designed (India Pale Ale was brewed to be transported in casks to India for the British Army in the 1800s) to be drunk, but few people on this side of the Atlantic drink warm beer. One of my favourite ways to drink a Keiths is as the top half of a “Black and Tan”, being a half Guinness half IPA, poured ever so carefully so that they don’t mix together (like oil and vinegar).

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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jul 12, 2011 8:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Beer

Small correction to your excellent treatise. IPA was actually the first English beer to be put in bottles as opposed to being transported in casks as the beer did not deteriorate on the long voyage to India.
Of course English beer was designed to be drunk at or near room temperature and when I was last in the country the latest trend was for “real beer” poured from a cask on the bar of the pub.
Bear in mind a hot English summer day merely means you remove your top coat but keep your sweater on. Just watch the British Open later this week to see what people typically wear on a hot summers day!

by Peter Puck on Jul 12, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mirror Pond Pale Ale

I’m not sure if it is available on the east coast or up north but if you want to try a great pale ale try Mirror Pond.

by IslesinAZ on Jul 12, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you, sir

I defer to your greater knowledge of India and Indian beers.

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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jul 12, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Likes this
(and note, Dom, the intentional omission of the Oxford comma)

::swoon:: This may be fit for my other blog, Lighthouse English Style Wars Without End.

Thanks for all these points. Made me laugh and taught me a bit about the Alexander Keith.

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alexander Keith's- Like NS Isles Fan, I too was weened on da stuff.

I have consumed Keith’s brewed in America, it is at best only similar to the Halifax brewed stuff. Oland brewery products are all distinctively similar to each other, and IMHO more similar to local Keith’s than licence brewed Keiths itself. That said, I still have to recommend trying it.

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by since70too on Jul 12, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have consumed Keith’s brewed in America, it is at best only similar to the Halifax brewed stuff.

That’s a shame. But maybe that’s the beauty of beer — it’s still a local product. Budvar and Pilsner Urquell taste no better than in their home towns, right from the tap.

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give me a call when you come to Nova Scotia, Dom,

and I’ll introduce you to large quantities of the real thing.

STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jul 13, 2011 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

OXFORD COMMA

rules. I can’t live without it.

Wiki on the ambiguity of the serial comma:

The Times once published an unintentionally humorous description of a Peter Ustinov documentary, noting that “highlights of his global tour include encounters with Nelson Mandela, an 800-year-old demigod and a dildo collector”. This would still be ambiguous if a serial comma were added, as Mandela could then be mistaken for a demigod, although he would be precluded from being a dildo collector.

"..."

by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on Jul 12, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoops

that shouldn’t say “ambiguity of the serial comma,” but the ambiguity that it avoids

oxford comma = serial comma

Unfortunately we can’t edit our comments post-posting.

"..."

by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on Jul 12, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not even to add an extra comma where necessary?

Slate magazine also has an interesting current article on the formalistic and unthinking use of the Oxford comma — defined (for those of us who are not anal grammar nazis) as the comma that goes before the “and” in a list (ie., “red, white, and blue”) — and the move away from it. The new rule should be that there ain’t no rule; read what you write and see if it makes sense and causes no ambiguity.

In your example above, the use of the word “a” would preclude Mandela from being a dildo collector, but you’re right, the absense of the Oxford comma leads one to conclude that he is in fact a demigod, which, in reality, might not be far from accurate.

/discussion of obscure grammatical rules that add nothing to the discussion.

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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jul 13, 2011 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

is it terrible

…that now I picture a smiling Morgan Freeman AS Nelson Mandela, proudly displaying his 800-years’ worth of various adult toys?

Or is it worse that YOU are now picturing the same thing?

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by mikb on Jul 13, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

This rule
The new rule should be that there ain’t no rule; read what you write and see if it makes sense and causes no ambiguity.

…take care of most issues.

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by Dominik on Jul 13, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oxford comma

I graduated fairly recently as an English major, so I’ve had many English teachers. From what I recall, even the toughest on grammar/punctuation said that either way is correct as long as the use is consistent throughout the paper/article. I grew up using the Oxford comma. I find that often it clarifies and very rarely it confuses, so I continue to use it. It also typically sounds more logical when read out loud, in my opinion. “Grabner skates past Callahan, Dubinsky, Staal, and Lundqvist.” But that is debatable.

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 13, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree it never confuses

…except when I have different clients who have different preferences. That really gets annoying. ("Wait, who is my boss today?)

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by Dominik on Jul 13, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keith's is good

Only have had it in Canada and when my brother in law brought a case down to NY. I am pretty certain I had their staple, I cannot remember the name of it, but it was delicious and I could drink it all night long.

Favorite’s right now are Terrapin Rye Pale Ale and Golden Ale, both are comparable to Blue Point Summer and Rastafarye Ale. I think the Terrapin is a bit better, but that is probably because I have not had a blue point in a while. All this for summer drinking since its about 100 degrees here everyday in Savannah.

Funny you mention the black and tan, if you find a bar with blue point blueberry on tap, try a black and blue. Same combo, Guinness and BP Blueberry.

by ghalbart on Jul 12, 2011 8:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I may have said "son" last week, so, correcting...

Camp invite Max Capuano IS related to #Isles head coach Jack Capuano; Max is his nephew, a 6-1 winger that played in Walpole of AJHL last yr
web • 7/12/11 8:28 AM

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 8:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

And this now...I'll probably have a rant about later as to why

Bad news for #Isles fans: Kirill Kabanov or @kabanov17 told me he’s done with Twitter. “I like Facebook better.”
web • 7/12/11 8:14 AM

Journeyman NHL/AHL center Eric Boguniecki here at #Isles physical testing; he’ll be an assistant to Brent Thompson in Bridgeport this season
web • 7/12/11 8:16 AM

All from Strang

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 8:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Yeah, I need to hear that KK story

Saw a reference on Twitter but was headed to da ocean and didn’t investigate.

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to lie

I’m disappointed KK didn’t stick with Twitter. I was really looking forward to some @grabs40, @mmoulson, @bookert2116 and @kabanov17 hilarity in the future. Already looking forward to @rstrome18 and @theoret23 tweets for the upcoming year.

Seriously, this is the only thing Twitter is good for.

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by Fabtraption on Jul 12, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't blame KK

Islander fans can be absolutely relentless on twitter. I saw one guy telling Gregoire it was a good thing he signed with the Jets because the Islanders have too much talent. Grabner and Schremp both took beatings on twitter early last year too. Grabner would just apologize and tell people he was trying hard. But I really can’t blame them for not wanting to stick around with how nasty some people can get.

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by Mark D on Jul 12, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

And not to switch sports on you, but

Josh Thole of the Mets left Twitter because he was getting abused on Twitter. Just goes to show that if you give some fans an inch, they will tell you that you SUCK.

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by CharlieIsles on Jul 12, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's ridiculous

How small a mind do you have to be to anonymously rail on complete strangers, just because you’re hiding behind a monitor and keyboard? Sometimes people are nauseating.

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by mikb on Jul 12, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

It's (a little bit) complicated

On the other hand, on of the pleasures of twitter is being able to have frank discussions regarding players or management. Knowing that the player in question might read the comment is a bit…weird and I sometimes try to restrain my language appropriately. I recently saw someone on twitter go from talking about how player X would be needs more conditioning/isn’t ready for prime time/should be traded to tweeting that player good luck mini-camp. I guess twitter places the contradictions of being a fan (breathless adoration vs. exacting expectations) in odd juxtaposition.

by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Jul 12, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shut up n00b.

U r teh sux0rz. LOLz wat a n00b.

—Anonymous (definitely not Turgeon1992)

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Jul 12, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's like staring at a train wreck

I couldn’t even do that if I tried.

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used to play a lot of Counter-Strike online.

It’s seared into my precious mind.

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Jul 12, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Twitter is the first...

…thing he threw out all year.
His girlfriend doesn’t even let him throw out the garbage because she’s worried it will wind up on third.
…And I think he misunderstood when Dickey said, “Man, what I need on this road trip is some wild bitches”

Not to pile on Josh… but Thole might be going through what Bailey would have if Islander fans hadn’t gotten so used to failure.

…and yeah… I’m the guy in charlie’s post below… one exception…
hair style…check
attire…. check
basic state of sloth… check
I even have the same lamp in the background… but I’d never wear my watch on my right hand…. way too difficult to get that thing past my belt… assuming I had to work that day and I’m still wearing pants!

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by JPinVA on Jul 12, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well...yeah I would never begrudge a player for that.

By creating a Twitter account, that player is inviting a direct relationship with fans. I don’t really understand why anybody would act nasty towards a player on Twitter, it just makes no sense to me. I’m really interested in player personalities off the ice, so to me Twitter is a great gateway to seeing different players’ interactions. Really, who would’ve expected 4th line extraordinaire Paul Bissonette to be so hilarious?

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by Fabtraption on Jul 12, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems to be the rule of the Internet

The lowest common denominators so easily soil the water for everyone. It has to be tough for these prospects who are basically teenagers still forming their sense of self, expanding from a smaller community (on the Facebook or whatever) to suddenly thousands of people taking shots at them.

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

A grown man really shouldn’t be insulting teenagers, whether on the internet or in person. AT ALL. That’s just gross.

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by Fabtraption on Jul 12, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

biznasty

is just hysterical sometimes!!

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by JW1970 on Jul 13, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

He might be more comfortable once he sticks with the big club.

Right now, he might just look at it as a way that he might have problemas… and his goal is to NOT have problemas.

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by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I have to admit ...

I haven’t read the community guidelines. I will now though. And I didn’t even realize how the Fan Post setup works. Almost all my comments are done in my office – I’m sure my boss doesn’t read this site – and are usually rushed, so some typos and other other screw ups get in there even if I proof before hitting ‘post’. I’m glad though about the your reiteration that certain basic criteria should be met. I also think editorial consistency in any media outlet is important, and lack of it detracts from credibility, if you know what I mean.
Also, because I know how much time and effort is needed to run this site, I was surprised to read you do this IN ADDITION to your “day job.” That’s dedication, man, good for you, and thanks.
On the hockey side, Poulin’s rapid development in the last couple years put him a the head of class in the organization and he clearly has #1 ability. But once again, I’m worried about a key Islander and netminder in particular being able to stay on the ice. When the GM went goalie crazy in his drafting alot of people thought he was nuts. Not now. Another check mark in his + column for me.

by dose on Jul 12, 2011 8:59 AM EDT reply actions  

No worries -- comments are much more free flowing

Certainly it’s better for all of us when comments make sense, but that’s the free-flowing, “in the moment” side of the conversation.

This is more directed at making FanPosts worth reading, since there are enough participants now where if everyone vomited out a quick FanPost at their drunken whim, the FanPost section would be full of half-hearted efforts that make people not check them anymore.

P.S. Sorry the guidelines are kind of long. I always feel bad asking anyone to read all that. But I’m not sure how to make it shorter. It’s designed to cover everything a new visitor might need to know.

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

imma always gonna make shure i proofreed my posts four now on!

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by Chris McNally on Jul 12, 2011 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

That's the spirit!

We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Jul 12, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think u mean tahts teh sprit

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I give up!

I’m posting in Spainish from now on! Mira que tiene cosas!

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by Russel Ginart on Jul 12, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

News

James Mirtle
mirtle James Mirtle
Oilers sent Cogliano to the Ducks for a second-round pick.
55 seconds ago

Tom Mascioli
islesinfo Tom Mascioli
#isles 2011 2nd rd pk C Johan Sundstrom invited to SWE’s WJC Eval. Camp in Lake Placid, NY Aug. 6-13. He played in 2011 WJC’s (1A in 6GP).
13 minutes ago

NYIslanders
NYIslanders NYIslanders
Lunch Video: Look at all of the awesome interactive features we’ll have for Saturday’s Blue and White live stream. http://ow.ly/5CrDP #Isles
13 minutes ago


Jets moving to the central division

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Cogliano

A lesson for Bailey.

Jets in the Central? I can dig it. But that list excluded the Blues, which makes cast suspicious eyes.

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Earl Sleek is a pisser

Earl Sleek
earlsleek Earl Sleek
Based on the recent history of the Oilers medical staff, I assume Andrew Cogliano will drop dead in a few hours. Until then, welcome!
11 minutes ago

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Jets first season is going to be brutal

what with all the ridiculous travel they’re going to have to do. They’re going to be in a worse spot than Vancouver, given that they don’t even really have some “moderately close” teams to play against in the conference.

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by ilopan on Jul 12, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...

Do you think the league would send St Louis out to the Southeast to replace the Thrash?

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by mikb on Jul 12, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

What Leipold said contradicts earlier reports

NHL sources said they were going to try and make the divisions based on time zones. So having the Blues in the Southeast or Columbus in the Central doesn’t work in that respect. I would think you replace Columbus with St. Louis and there is your Central division.

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by Chris McNally on Jul 12, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, snap
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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jul 12, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I would think too

They probably just overlooked St. Louis…which is not exactly a rare thing to do.

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Martin is only 5'5" so he is easy to miss.

(feigning ignorance that a city of the same name even exists and why it is overlooked)

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by Hockey1919 on Jul 12, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well done

Good sir.

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't looked at the schedule

Bbut imagine the 4 game road swong through the Southeast Division this year. Picture a soft and lazy, overly complaining eastern conference team (Oh, let’s say, the Rangers) in Raleigh on Monday, Winnipeg on Tuesday, Tampa on Thursday and Miami on Saturday afternoon. Good times.

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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jul 12, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

It actually appears that, despite Winnipeg being in the Southeast

The schedule maker took into account the location on the map of Winnipeg… at least on our schedule.

by sayvillelax94 on Jul 13, 2011 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you are on a plane, sitting in 1st class...

Does it really make a difference if youre on it for 35 minutes or 65 minutes?
Does it REALLY change how you are going to feel?

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by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the jet lag is going to be the hardest part, both for the 'peg and for visitors

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by mikb on Jul 12, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

For me it matters more whether there is a rugrat kicking my seat

Or a large, fragrant gentleman dripping on my shoulder.

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fixed
Or a large, fragrant gentleman donut dripping on my shoulder.

"..."

by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on Jul 12, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Solved...

Arbitration should cure Schremp, and they let Sutton go years ago.

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by JPinVA on Jul 12, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toronto Star gives 3 reallignment scenarios

I’m partial to #3 (even if it means less games against the Pens.

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by Anarcurt on Jul 12, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those all

look like horrible ideas. But I also miss the Divisions from before Bettman’s re-christening of them and when we would have division champs decided in the playoffs.

I do not want to see Detroit in the East come hell or high water. Move Columbus or Nashville. I’m partial to Columbus.

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by Mark D on Jul 12, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like the idea of the Sunshine Division in the second scenario

That way, all of the “non-traditional hockey markets” that Canadian sports-writers hate and think are ruining the game despite winning a bunch of Stanley Cups in the last few years can be kept in their own little ghetto. Brilliant!

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by PGI on Jul 12, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Talk about piss poor editing

The 3rd scenario features Carolina in the Atlantic dvision, but the list shows it in the mid-west and the Florida teams are graphically located in the “Mid-West”, but listed as part of the Atlantic.

Instead of giving terrible geographic names, like Grreat Lakes, use historical hockey names. Hockey has its own traditions and following the other sports nonsensical geographic designations never made sense. First off, Americans don’t do well with geography and I’d hate to have a generation of children in Florida thinking they grew-up in the Mid-West.

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by Hockey1919 on Jul 12, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't Bettman eliminate those traditional names because new fans would be scared and confused?

We wouldn’t want to upset fans who will give up on the sport in a heartbeat.

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by Turgeon1992 on Jul 12, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm more confused by the fact that

Pittsburgh, which is 8 hours away from the ocean, is somehow in the Atlantic Division.

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by Fabtraption on Jul 13, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm happy as long as

… they don’t call one of the divisions the Middle East.

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 13, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Areener support

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe this is why we picked Tavares

Matt Duchene
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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh god

I REALLY hate country. Cept for Johnny Cash, but hes not that country

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by Zhora on Jul 12, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cash didn’t have that nasally twang, so did that make him a “Western” singer. I was once told in Huntsville, AL that they had a radio station that played all kinds of music, both Country and Western. I may now have figured out the distinction after all these years.

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by Hockey1919 on Jul 12, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats the thing I hate about country

That fake, contrived, dopey-ass twangy accent they all seem absolutely COMPELLED to utilize.
It drives me berserk.

A lot of the music is good- really good, actually- and fun. But then they start nasalling out about how shes “a cheatin” and use that stupid voice to do it, and I have to stop listening.

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by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah he didnt sound like the stereotypical country singer

He just made good music.
And i never could and never will be able to tell the difference between Western and Country

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by Zhora on Jul 12, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of 'sick (and by extension, awesome) singing voices....

…..don’t know how many of you are Grass Roots fans, but Rob Grill died yesterday morning due to complications from a severe blow to his head when he fell hard – one of THE greatest voices, EVER…..

by ogam5 on Jul 12, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cash was The Man

Bono once said that every other male in Christendom sounded like a pansy next to Johnny Cash. (And he didn’t say “pansy” either.)

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by mikb on Jul 12, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Cash for the win

I’d say guys like Cash are real country, and the stuff that’s billed as Country is just pop with twang.

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can endorse this definition

but what is “western?”

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by Hockey1919 on Jul 12, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I just know we got both kinds, Country and Western.

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can they have Western music in the East? And is country music outside of the US called American music or is it locally known as folk? And why isn’t the mid-East next to the Mid-West?

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by Hockey1919 on Jul 12, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

In a nut shell

Country typically comes outta Nashville and is more “pop” these days with a little twang. Western, like Red Dirt, is somewhat anti-nashville. their songs are more outspoken and has a more down to earth working man theme.

by 54_Fighting on Jul 12, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Holy cow

Is that right? I’d never heard that. I mean, I’ve never even thought about it other than the line in Blues Brothers, but still…that’s interesting.

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by Dominik on Jul 13, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea, i live in texas

I’m not a fan of either but it’s been beaten into my head since I moved here. Lol

by 54_Fighting on Jul 13, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean like those guys who sang at the NHL awards ceremony?

They were twangy enough.

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by TheMetalChick on Jul 13, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

IMO Western was the real old stuff

Cowboy music, the fellas singing it knew how to ride a horse.

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by since70too on Jul 12, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nothing could be worse than the interview montage I watched while at the NVMC one day

where they asked the Islanders “Who is your favorite band?”

And it was like,

“Nickelback”
“Nickelback”
“Nickelback”
“Nickelback”
“Nickelback”
“Nickelback”

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by ilopan on Jul 12, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh. Canadians....

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by Fabtraption on Jul 12, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah

I’m surprised there isn’t a bit more love for “Our Lady Peace”…but I suppose they’re getting a little old now.

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh, Nickelback.

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by Turgeon1992 on Jul 12, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

these poor kids

But it could be worse, they could all be saying “Lady Antebellum” or “the Cast of Glee” or something.

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by mikb on Jul 12, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

There you go

Ugh, Swedes

This IS the year.

by since70too on Jul 12, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

He and Okposo would have been rockin it.

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by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Larsson, that's dreadful

You couldn’t pick a Swedish tween star, at least? I could even respect ABBA there.

Or hell, you’re Nordic – go for some H.I.M. Be at least passably metal.

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by mikb on Jul 13, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would die for a prospect to say he likes Norwegian black metal

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by Dominik on Jul 13, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Immortal (again)

The “(again)” kills me. “I didn’t know Satan had an ice hockey team!”

It was the Sabres, mostly. Isles and Pens for a little while, too.

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by mikb on Jul 13, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Immortal (part 1)
And what is that leather guard holding his gut in? He’s been drinking too much Smirnoff Ice

This line really got me.

There are more lists like this, because black metal pretty much invites it. (To be fair, they’re far from just a Norwegian genre). Some of them are very NSFW, but in the most hilarious ways.

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by Dominik on Jul 13, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or hell, you’re Nordic – go for some H.I.M. Be at least passably metal.

I have a number of friends who genuinely love them but I think they suck.
And its not because Im that old school, I like a number of modern metal bands- they just arent one of them.

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by TheMetalChick on Jul 13, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can dig it

They’re kind of “emo metal” for me, though they do put on a good live show. (Wife’s a big fan – as in, knew and enjoyed their stuff before Bam decided that they were just the BEST EVAH.)

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by mikb on Jul 14, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO

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by JW1970 on Jul 13, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am so confused. I've read every fanpost written here for about a year, and I can say that I could understand them all.

Unless this complaint was coming from an English 2nd language person, I don’t see the problem. DavidSweden or BenHasna can’t understand it, fine. But if we really can’t understand or interpret a fanpost because it is in giant block paragraphs or missing a comma here or letter in a word there or has a couple misspellings or grammatical errors, then people have way too much time on their hands or are complaining about the wrong things. Use that complaining time and use it towards helping the Aug.1 vote pass in some way. I have no idea what the problem is from a reading/interpretting standpoint from all the posts I’ve read, but I can guess at who one or a couple of the complainers could be. lol

by OzzyFan on Jul 12, 2011 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I think what everyone is saying is that

anyone who makes a Fan Shot or a Fan Post owes it to themselves and to the reading public around here to make a few rudimentary efforts to make it readable, using Punctuation, Syntax, Grammar, Spelling and spacing.

We do this because

(a) No one is going to read it if you don’t; and
(b) It’s just the right thing to do.

If you don’t do it, you’re not going to get banned; you’re just going to get ridiculed.

This rule is significantly relaxed for short responses to FanShots or FanPosts.

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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jul 12, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I know what you're saying, but there is more illiterate people in the world then you'd think.

Lighthousehockey doesn’t have it’s own word check, “only” 70% of Americans graduate high school today(with a 65+ overall average), and English is only 1/4th of the major subjects in school. Most people could care less about punctuation in school or life because unless they were a writer or going into a profession where literary correctness mattered, it was all something that most people would forget. No one in median-level english in High School is condemned to hell for misspelling a couple words or missing a couple punctuation marks. For example, I’ve gotten 4 A’s in my 4 college english classes with some grammatical mistakes. Everyone’s seen my writing, it’s far from perfect, better then some, but no way excellent or deserving of an A in english punctuality/grammar use. That’s why I think everyone it taking this thing too far with complaining. This is a site run by the public for the public. Even some newspaper articles have stupid mistakes. People just need to read what they want and leave stuff alone if it’s too complicated for them to understand from lack of proper “but” understandable grammar. See what I’m saying?

by OzzyFan on Jul 12, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha!

Thanks JP!

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well said, sir

Nice Hand.

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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jul 13, 2011 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think something that gets overlooked a LOT is......

….the resolve of letters on some computers relative to typing rate, whether it be due to Javascript issues or otherwise, causes severe problems at times – I just struggled through a 4-paragraph email on Yahoo! Beta (Classic mode no longer available unless prompted by slow processing speed) because I’d opted to use Courier New in lieu of Arial, and I couldn’t control when the font defaulted…..

by ogam5 on Jul 12, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

To sum up

I think the general sense of all of this was put best by one Walter Sobchak; to paraphrase, “This isn’t Nam. There are rules.”

by afrosupreme on Jul 12, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I am so confused. I’ve read every fanpost written here for about a year, and I can say that I could understand them all.

And the mods here have had to fix some of them to make sure you COULD understand them.
If people took a few extra seconds- literally, that would not be necessary.

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by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nova Scotia, Keith and WebBard covered it thoroughly
I have no idea what the problem is from a reading/interpretting standpoint from all the posts I’ve read, but I can guess at who one or a couple of the complainers could be.

I doubt you can, because it hasn’t come from any personas you’d expect. But I’ll say this, Ozzy: I’m one of the complainers. You may have strengths I lack when reading online copy, but I sincerely find error-filled posts difficult to read. They are a chore. If I were talking about “a couple of misspellings” here or there, that’d be one thing. I’m talking about rushed posts that seem to have little regard for the reader, from beginning to end.

I don’t mean to make this place exclusive, but … well I do in a way, don’t I? I do mean to keep the standard of FanPosts from decaying. I do mean for this place to be one of generally productive and coherent conversation, rather than your average Yahoo board. And it is a little different than your average public Internet forum in that you have to sign up with a screen name that creates a history and lets people see your comment history to help determine if the comment that comes off as over the line is par for the course or just a one off. That’s honestly a big reason I ever launched this place on the SBN platform.

This has probably already become a bigger topic than was intended. All experience and outside advice tells me that in running forums like this, occasional nudges of direction are necessary.

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reading the replys and your reply, I can understand the issue.

I just think your expectations are a bit “high” for everyone. Take me for example. I’m an A/90+ student in English in college and high school. My grammar isn’t great, my puntuation isn’t great, but it’s readable. Then take that into account as me being an above average Then take into account that 70% of the US graduate from High School. Then take into account that “I am” a solidly above average student in English. Now, take into account that the average person is say a C+/B- student overall. Now take into account some people being weak in english. Comparitively, I just think expectations are too high for writing fanposts and such for the “average” person. That’s just my take on everything though. I think it makes sense when you look at the big picture, but maybe I’m wrong and undervaluing the average person’s writing/reading english abilities.

by OzzyFan on Jul 12, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

My grammar isn’t great, my puntuation isn’t great, but it’s readable.

I think I can speak for most people when I point out that your posts are absolutely no problem to read.

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by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

That sentence perfectly supports your point

I don’t have a problem reading your comments, Ozzy, but I do picture you typing about 500 words a minute. I think it is mainly because you often respond to comments quicker than I can read through them. Haha.

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 13, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

There have been some FanPosts recently

where it seems even the effort of capitalizing the first letter in a sentence is too much effort, and it’s stuff like that which gets my goat.

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by ilopan on Jul 12, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Mark it zero, Dude.

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Jul 12, 2011 3:47 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

...and this is how..

I get my daughter to do her homework every night!
OT: When are the Coen brothers gonna give us another classic… the crap they’ve been rollin’ out lately is stuff they only reference on Columbus Bluejacket sites. I need more reference material! No Country was FOUR YEARS AGO… LET’S GO BOYS… I AIN’T GOT ALL DAY!!!

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by JPinVA on Jul 12, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

No love

for True Grit?

I’m sure I liked Burn After Reading and A Serious Man more than most, because I’m an enthusiast (name that Coen quote). But I thought True Grit was pretty great all around.

by afrosupreme on Jul 12, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haven't seen True Grit yet

But I’ve enjoyed the recent ones for sure. Nothing compares to watching a Coen classic in the theater and realizing, as it’s playing, you’ve got a classic on your hands.

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by Dominik on Jul 12, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they saw Grit...

… as the perfect vehicle for Bridges… especially after the drunk he played in his last movie… but that movie just seemed absent of the COEN BROTHERS trademark. Maybe because it was there before.
I should have burned before watching. Brad Pitt is no Clooney when it comes to transitioning to black comedy… and maybe I’m jaded, but I figured out the plot after the first act… that’s not good coen!
A Serious Man didn’t really capture me. I may watch that one again, but it put me to sleep the first time.
I was being a little sarcastic(shoulda used the appropriate font), because I don’t really expect anything better than the mountain of classics that have come from them already.
And all three are missing a certain element of period/provincial coen dialogue. I want the coen’s to buy the rights to Confederacy of Dunces and do the shit out of that movie! But I dream… too bad Goodman got too old for it.
…and no, I’m not going back and capitalizing!

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by JPinVA on Jul 12, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

If

the Coen’s did the Dunces, I’d probably never be able to watch a movie again, because everything would suck in comparison. I might even die of laughter halfway through.

I remember hearing Goodman had been potentially pegged as an Ignatius at some point. He’d have been great. Not sure who could pull it off now.

ps-I agree that Burn and Serious are not particularly great for a Coen flick, but that still leaves them better than 99% of what’s out there. And I’d still probably put them above Ladykillers.

by afrosupreme on Jul 12, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goodman

Yeah, are the Coens really done with Goodman? I heard that a few times a while back, but I don’t keep up with that stuff as well as, say, the movements of teenagers in Quebec.

That’s a real shame if it’s true.

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by Dominik on Jul 13, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, poor communication there. I had a heard, probably a decade ago, that someone (not the Coens) had plans to do a version of Confederacy of Dunces with Goodman cast as Ignatius. But obviously that never happened (and I was saying he’d obviously be far too old for it now).

I don’t know anything about a Coen/Goodman rift, and yea, I’d also hope that’s not true.

by afrosupreme on Jul 13, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's been a bunch of

Dunce movies, at one time someone (maybe the coens) had Will Ferrell as Ignatius and he did a reading along with the rest of the cast once or twice but nothing came of it.

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by Mark D on Jul 13, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes I wonder if it’s best left alone. It’s such a great book, it would probably be pretty hard to pull off, and then everyone would be bummed out.

by afrosupreme on Jul 13, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

And yet Bridges acting seemd forced to me.

Like he was portaying someone that wanted to be a caricature of John Wayne.

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by Hockey1919 on Jul 13, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's in a tough spot there

I mean… it’s JOHN WAYNE. It’s just amazingly hard to be something different when you’re remaking something he’s done. There’s a reason why very few people are willing to step into roles first handled by absolute icons and giants. Even if you’re great – you’re going to be different. You have to be, or else people say, “Pffft, he was just imitating Big Star.”

Let’s just say that I wouldn’t have the guts to be George Bailey today.

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by mikb on Jul 13, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

No substance in True Grit.

It’s all lateral story telling if you ask me. No forward progress for much of the film.

by 54_Fighting on Jul 12, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The girl was very good in True Grit

Excellent acting performance by her. But overall the movie didn’t really have enough twists— didn’t really go anywhere special. Not a bad watch, though. 5 out of 10 if I am grading based on expectation.

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 13, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh... and dude...

the [REPLY] button next time… ain’t you been readin’?

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by JPinVA on Jul 12, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

The Nassau Chambers of Commerce Support the Hub Plan

Here

Important stuff, emphasis mine:

According to an independent economic impact analysis conducted by Camoin Associates, a nationally recognized firm in public and private sector economic development, a new sports-entertainment arena will create over 3,000 new permanent jobs, over 1,500 construction jobs, $403 million in tax relief for homeowners and benefit Nassau’s hotels, restaurants and service providers. Camoin Associates is expected to release an economic analysis next week that indicates just how many jobs would be lost if the current Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum closes its doors and the NY Islanders leave Nassau County.

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Mangano has it backwards

You’re supposed to dump the BAD news on the public at the 11th hour.

by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Jul 12, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, enough with the cool snarkiness

WTF? WHY DIDN’T MANGANO"S PPL HAVE THESE GUYS PUT OUT THESE NUMBERS WEEKS AGO??

by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Jul 12, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly

It was out there, and I linked the Camoin report last week, but I think the part of what will be lost isn’t completed yet. They may have problems funding the reports because of having to pass things through NIFA right? They told me about that report at the East Meadow informational meeting, so it has been ready for a couple of weeks.

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve read the report and discussed in my posts but why didn’t it include that aspect of analysis, which is what everyone has been asking about? It’s odd becuase section of the county’s website with the arena plan info seems to have a half baked version of these numbers (complete with bracketed placeholders that someone is supposed to fill). See here : http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/agencies/CountyExecutive/econdev15.html. It’s frustrating that ALL of these numbers were set forth in nice easy to follow talking points from the get go. I’m glad they will have the analysis but it feels like they’re playing catch up. Thay being said, I’m hearing that these info sessions are going smoothly and I even found a couple of people on facebook who have flipped to “Yes” after attending.

by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Jul 12, 2011 6:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Perhaps to give the opponents less time to refute them?

I think the timing on everything is being planned here.

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by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 6:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Really, Godard?

He barely played last year with all of the Penguins injuries.

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by Mark D on Jul 12, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I skated around with him a bit after and he threw up twice haha.

Grabner’s awesome

"..."

by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on Jul 12, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course the poor kid threw up

Grabs is zooming around the ice holding this poor infant. He must have thought he was in one of those test pilot centrifuges.

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by mikb on Jul 13, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Not noted on twitter: the vomit was clocked at Mach 2.

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by Hockey1919 on Jul 13, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I guess Mario is some kind of sick whining crying masochist

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This sucks actually. MacIntyre is no joke. Gillies has his work cut out for him. This guy has knocked out Orr and Brashear with body shots…BODY SHOTS!

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I am a fan of the clavicle

though it requires a bit of contortion to form a deep enough cup

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by ilopan on Jul 14, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

p.s.

I bet at least a dozen of you reading the above just tried twisting around to see how deep a cup you could form

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by ilopan on Jul 14, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clavicles are hot

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by Dominik on Jul 14, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Back dimples

hot and also two shots. Beware also questionable dimple depth

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 14, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Super Mario!!!

Hey, thanks for saving our goalie’s ass, Eric. Took those ten games for the greater good. BTW we replaced you with Steve McIntyre. Enjoy Dallas!

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by mikb on Jul 13, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Isles will

I’m not sure how much the other teams in the division will. If we dress Gillies, we certainly will.

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by Keith Quinn on Jul 13, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder

how much of that there is pre-game between the GMs/coaches. “You gonna dress Goddard? Because we’ll have to bring Gillies along then. Or can we just have Haley go after Cooke a couple times?”

by afrosupreme on Jul 13, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Visiting team sends in the roster first.

But unless you recall a player in anticipation of a match, there probably isn’t much more that goes into it. If I see the home team brought up a goon, do I automatically put my goon into the lineup? At that point the home team is almost forced to play the goon they called up just t counter.

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by Hockey1919 on Jul 13, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember back in the day when every team used two goalies?

And suspiciously their backups/1B’s tended to trot out there on the same nights? I always figured there’s now way there wasn’t a gentleman’s agreement out there.

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by Dominik on Jul 13, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cheechoo signs with the Blues

Don’t know specifics. Just heard this from a friend whose a Blues fan. Hope it’s a 2-way cause I see him in Peoria by November.

Also best tweet ever:

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Is it impossible to poop without peeing?

by 54_Fighting on Jul 12, 2011 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I just threw up.

And not from the BizNasty note, either.

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by Dominik on Jul 13, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's a 2 way Dom

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by Mark D on Jul 13, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's how you poop without peeing?

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by ilopan on Jul 14, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

It brings the quality of the site when no effort is made to be coherent when posting

It’s a little more laid back here than some of the other sbnation sites I visit from time to time, where you might recieve a death threat for misusing there vrs. their and I do appreciate that…but there has to be a limit. Comments are one thing, but I don’t understand why you would take the time write a fanpost and then not take a few minutes to fix even the most egregious errors. You obviously have a point you are tying to get across, spend a few minutes to make sure people can understand it. I want to be taken seriously and want my points to be heard and when I ignore mistakes it gives other readers an excuse to skip over my comment/fanpost/fanshot.

by MatthewM11 on Jul 14, 2011 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.

The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.

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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.

Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.

1981-82


May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.

A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.

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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.

Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.


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