In search of a captain [poll inside]
Editor's Note: A fun, straightforward FanPost: Pick your captain. Note that KC's instructions request that in comments, you leave your choice/reasons for voting as a reply to the comment that lists that candidate's name. So this is also a test of your reading comprehension.
As we all know, Doug Weight has retired which opens up a great opportunity for a new captain for this young, feisty Islander team.
For this FanPost I want to change things up and make it somewhat like our FIG posts - I will write out the top candidates in the comment section and if you believe that person should be captain then write your reasoning under that person. I will include my choice in the comments section as well.
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I think Kyle will be the captain for years to come. He signed a 5 year contract, has outstanding leadership qualities, and is liked by all in the locker room. His dedication to this team and hard work ethic are admirable qualities that fit that of a captain’s. Although he is young and less experienced then some others, I think he will take the ropes and captain this team next year.
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I believe it should be Streit
But the Isles are easy to read if you know how to read between the lines. KO is going to be the new captain. You don’t drag him out to Minnesota for no reason.
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by Mark D on Jul 11, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
THat's one thought...
but you drag him to minnesota because he was gonna be there anyway. He’s also all about Minnesota hockey. I think you read a little too much between the lines… notice Kevin Connoly wasn’t the captain last year.
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good question
Does he spend his summers in Minnesota?
But it’s worked pretty well so far. We knew they weren’t going to bring back Big Z when he didn’t appear at any of the Islanders events when the season was over, and they have signed all the FAs who were listed as appearing at the Draft Party (and yes, in the past they have had people appear at the party who weren’t signed). I think with the 5 year contract and Streit only having 2 years left, they go with KO instead of having Streit babysit the C for two seasons. I also think they want a long term answer at C, They haven’t had someone get over 2 years since Peca.
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Yeah, pretty sure he was already in Minnesota
And Prince wasn’t available.
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you may be right,becayse you bring up a good point
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by Empire39 on Jul 11, 2011 10:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But the Isles are easy to read if you know how to read between the lines.
Easy to read… how about we read into a photo-shoot like this one?

Who looks like the Captain in this pic? :)
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That was a photo shoot?
I figured you painted it in your down time.
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ha
I would have had them standing in those same spots.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
What this picture
doesn’t show is Neilsen is carrying them all on his back.
by afrosupreme on Jul 12, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
cant do it
A, the man’s nickname is kyle harry potter okposo
B, because of the movies, not the books
C, i still remember him not backing up teammates after cheapshots (even if he did score a goal on one of the plays)
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by bob l on Jul 11, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep... C is big for me as well.
But I think with two years under Streit more of that will come from Kyle. Not because Streit will push him towards that type of play, but that seems more in his growth path. He plays too “physical” not to be PSYCHICAL!
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Thats a good point
KO has to start sticking up for his teammates and himself before hes the captain…I think he had a couple skirmishes in the NHL and one of them was during the reckoning game where everyone else’s fists were flying…KO had a clutch & grab skirmish…I hope he starts showing snarl….KO prolly never had a school yard fight in his life..
I remember all the time Steve Yzerman fought to defend his teammates...
and then Lidstrom did the same. You don’t need a captain to fight for the team, that’s why you have enforcers.
KO could be a great captain, he doesn’t need to stick up for anyone, just needs to lead by example. I’m not suggesting KO is of the caliber of Yzerman or Lidstrom, but they were good leaders who didn’t fight to be good leaders, just like KO could be.
Kyle, but....
I, too, think that it will be Kyle. He’s been there a while, done all he was asked and worked through some tough times, yet he’s still young. He would be a good choice.
BUT….with a strong possibility of this being a good, young playoff team, why not hand over the reins to the guy who will be the team leader if he isn’t already – JT? If not now, it should be soon.
A-Mac is a good choice as well.
Right now...
Frans would be my second choice, with Reasoner a close third. I think in two years I could very well see Bailey and Okposo being one and two, and if Nielsen is signed long term he could be in the mix as well. The one thing that puts Frans a little bit behind is that he never appears to be the VOICE of the team. He may struggle a little with ENGLISH AS AN AGRESSIVE TOOL… as Konopka over-used. An out front, but subtle approach to media relations is what the team needs… why Weight was a good choice and why Streit will be a good choice. Both Kyle and Josh will grow into that role eventually. Mr Happy (KO) just needs some more on ice grit for me. Even Frans gets a little “nasty” when it is warranted.
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Yea
I hadn’t thought about the language thing. I just looked for a Frans Nielsen interview quick, and the only one I could find was in Danish. Anyone know if he speaks English at all?
I also took a quick look at Nick Lidstrom, as I’d never heard him interviewed. It was amazing. You’d think he was Canadian.
easy now afrosupreme
Lidstrom is great, but not physical enough to be a canadian
by CanadianIsleslifer on Jul 11, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My favorite Frans quote
On JT: “Oh, sick. That’s what he do.”
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Yes there's the language
I guess I just assumed that Nielsen, like most NHLers, sound like they’re from Moose Jaw after three years, but maybe not…
Anyway, KO is more likely, after all he did play GM at the draft.
By that reasoning
Kevin Connolly should have been Captain :)
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Frans was my choice
I like the C to be someone who is more defensive
Kyle would be my 2nd choice
JT will get an A
Reasoner, I don’t like the new guy being the C right away
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by Rickfansince76 on Jul 11, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
My brain said Frans
My heart said JT…..but I went with my brain on this one.
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by CharlieIsles on Jul 11, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not Matty?
He’s (relatively) older. Smart Cornell grad. Hard worker. I think he’s as good of a candidate as any.
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by Mark D on Jul 12, 2011 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hey web, i got that one ;o)
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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Jul 13, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I like Moulson
His play, his outgoing nature, his Twitter feed, his hair.
But I voted Streit.
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What about his Wallace and Gromit smile don't you like?
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Veteran Leadership
1. You want a guy who is going to be on the ice a lot. Streit, if healthy, will lead the team in TOI this year… no question.
2. You want somebody who can handle the press. Streit has always seemed to be a good interview. He is pro-organization, and is a level headed voice of professionalism. He has also been in far deeper “press” waters in Montreal… though in a far less responsible role.
3. He is a player on the international stage.
4. Damn it… he was the best player on the team for his first two years… basically carrying the junkwagon to the finish line each year.
5. With two years remaining on his current contract it gives the other candidates time to mature into the role. If he re-signs, then all the better. Sometimes you don’t need a young start to have the added pressure of being the up front leader. Some guys thrive on that, others crumble… why take a chance.
6. I’m pretty sure Streit has been captain of his Olympic team… I’m guessing coordinating that effort on a cell-phone over 5 or 6 different time zones was a little more of a burden than standing up in a locker room between periods and saying, “JEZUS CRISP, WHAT THE FURK ARE YOU GUYS DOING OUT THERE… YOU’RE PLAYING LIKE A BUNCH OF AUSTRIAN WATCHMAKERS!!!”
7. Hot Chocolate in the locker room after practice….

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by JPinVA on Jul 11, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like
the new Ice Girl outfits! Might present a problem when they bend over to scoop up the ice however….
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by CharlieIsles on Jul 11, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
KO will be a good choice in a year or two, but right now, Streit is the only one i can see making much sense.
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Streit is the perfect fit until the next wave matures
KO – Is still improving and finding his game. He doesn’t need the extra burden of being the C. More seems to be expected of him physically than he has shown.
Bailey – Has the character based on precedent, but he needs to perform on the ice to be able to speak up in the locker room.
Reasoner – too new, we’re not talking a career like Weight or Guerin. He’d make a great A, but the coaching staff doesn’t even know the guy yet.
Nielsen – He can do eveything, but why should he have to? I won’t use language as a barier because last I checked Streit wasn’t North American either. Really no good reason he shouldn’t be, but he does have that rep as a “Goon” (see Briere).
Moulson – Doesn’t strike me as the type to get in anyone’s face. He seems like a dude that is happy that AHL career finally paid off.
AMAC – An interesting choice, but is he high profile enough to get the refs ear? This is a position that has as much to do with perception as it does with performance.
Hunter – Maybe two years ago, now I doubt he is fast enough to catch the ref to argue a call.
JT – I believe will be a captain of this team. By the time KO and Bailey are putting up enough production to match their leadership skills, JT will be the Captain. He is already showing the intensity and he will have the production to get the refs respect. He’ll also be on the ice more than any other forward, so that helps. He already has no problem showing is anger when things aren’t going right and he has been trained in media speak since he was born. Half the draft picks are his peers and they all work out together so that is almost built in.
Streit – Should be the next Captain. He’s well known around the league, dealt with the press in Montreal. Being fourth pairing D in Montreal gets you more coverage than All-Star on Long Island. Defenseman generally rule as Captains (that’s my bias). They play more minutes than anyone else and it helps if the Captain is out there. He brings experience and also bridges the North American/Euro flavor of the locker room. He seems to have the proper demeanor and his production is enough to keep guys honest. I love heart and soul guys, but as a Captain it is hard to hear it from a guy that only scores one goal a year.
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by Hockey1919 on Jul 12, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
As much as KO represents the youth movement of this team, Streit represents the anchor of this team on the ice. He is a calming presence when he is out there and you really do see the team play much more relax just knowing he is back there, able to handle his defensive assignment, play the puck out, carry the puck out, deke through chara and score a goal. Streit is the perfect go between player while we wait for the youngsters to mature and hone their game.
Streit has already captained his national swiss team for years, and is one of those players that as a captain plays better because of it. Give Streit the C and watch him play that much better, protect his players, and play a more aggressive role. He thrives on this stuff.
None of the young guys, I believe would thrive with the C as much as they would seem ready/ An A is perfect for a guy like Tavares, Okposo, Amac, or Frans. It implies leadership, but not the helm of the ship. I would suggest these guys play better as well having that A on their sweater. Wear it with pride, feel the responsibility, but not all the weight. (no pun intended)
Sorry to say, but are young guys are not Jonathan Toews yet. Toews is probably twice his age in head and acts the part, doing a superb job over in Chicago. We do not need to expose our young talent just yet to added pressure on themselves by carrying the C.
Streit for President 2012.
oh wanted to say after
thrives on this stuff. Just like Shane Doan, thrives on being captain. I feel it truly makes him a better player having the C on his sweater. Just lays everything on the line for the rest of his team and is productive at the same time. Have not had that since Peca.
Indeed
Hard to imagine the situation where he is not the C. Someone mentioned DiPietro as being emotionally invested in this rebuild. I say, he is only financially invested. Streit, however, is practically a founding member of the rebuild, a free agent who didn’t shun the isles when they came calling, and is about to reap the benefits of that in 2011 (lord willing).
Give Frans and A-Mac the As. Neither JT nor okposo need that responsibility right now – Frans seems more perfectly suited for it. MacDonald just seems to have his shit together.
by IslesFanInNJ on Jul 11, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Streit should be captain.
Basically, he’s older and more experienced. The other guys need to add years. KO can be captain when Streit is gone. No reason to saddle a young player with the role of captain when its unnecessary. I fully expect the locker room to vote and we the fans have to be satisfied with what people more involved than ourselves decide.
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by Turgeon1992 on Jul 12, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he'll be the one
Veteran presence who leads by example. After him I think it’s going to be up in the air between Okposo and Tavares.
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by Katzenhammer on Jul 12, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd love to see this
but I don’t think he’s there…….yet.
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by CharlieIsles on Jul 11, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont like making someone captain when they dont even know their teammates yet
It should come naturally, from who is respected and listed to.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 11, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Amac
Yep, I said it! He’s a vocal leader, but can be laid back and joke, and bottom line, he’s done it. He was the rock of that decimated D that was babysitting (an outstanding) rookie. He also was slated to begin the year in BPT, but did nothing but keep quiet, bide his time, and produce when he got here. He’s fought his way up from the ECHL to the NHL in less than 3 years, and his teammates talk about him like a 30 year old vet. He has stuck up for teammates, plays physically hen necessary, and doesn’t lose his head.
The problem I see is, I think the captaincy usually is two forwards and a d. I could easily see streit getting the C just because he’s a vet, but let’s face it, he’s not a guy who defends his teammates either. I know size is an issue, but we do hold KO to that standard.
Also, he kinda looks like Matthew McConahe(I don’t know how to spell that), so he’s got the handsome camera thing going and is good with an interview.
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by Keith Quinn on Jul 11, 2011 8:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Andrew MacDonald
‘Cause he’s the only Nova Scotian on the team.
And everything Quinny said
This IS the year.
Rick DiPietro
you forgot to put him on the polling list
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He is on it...
…OTHER.
The only way DP becomes captain is if Wang is allowed to make hockey related decisions again… I’ve been actively changing my opinion of the guy, but that would put me back in, “Wang should be sitting next to Sanjay” mode.
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The NHL does not need another _aptain C-chin.
Luongo was enough of a laugh.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 11, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Franz is the only choice for now
Streit is great player, doesn’t seem like a leader of leaders…wasn’t in Montreal…
not knocking KO but, he hasn’t done anything so far in his limited NHL time that would suggest to me he is captain material…he is still developing, and if his stats don’t improve (i am sure he will) he could very well be the third line right wing)
by CanadianIsleslifer on Jul 11, 2011 3:07 PM EDT reply actions
FranS.
Sorry but he has no Z!
People constantly do this to my own first name (get the last letter wrong) so I always notice it.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 11, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry Chriz...
…I have probably over used the “Z” over time as well.
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lol
With me its the Christine/Christina thing.
There is no e in my name.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 11, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
No joke
2-3 years down the road Josh may be the best suited for the job.
This IS the year.
by since70too on Jul 11, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can I then just put you down in the Blake Comeau for Captain camp.
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He's already making C's in the offensive zone.
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I think he fits very well down the road
He has sacraficed a lot individually and has contributed a lot on PK and took the demotion like a Man!!!
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by Torch7 on Jul 11, 2011 7:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Matty Mo is DISQUALIFIED
….because he has a relative on another team. Jonathan Quick is actually Moulson’s brother-in-law. It could compromise his decision-making.
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WHAT????!!??
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I could have sworn his brother-in-law played for some team other than the Kings.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
Why do you guys insist on making Okposo the capt??
As you can see by my user name, Im a fan of the kid…But hes still working on his own game…He needs to worry about getting the most out of himself before he can be responsible for getting the most out of everyone else…Mark Streit is the only guy who should be the captain…Hes the only guy whos really ready for a leadership role…KO should be focused on making himself the best he can be…Once hes reaching his potential then we can talk about him wearing the C…For now, its Mark Streit
by KO21 on Jul 11, 2011 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
As you can see by my user name, Im a fan of the kid…But hes still working on his own game…He needs to worry about getting the most out of himself before he can be responsible for getting the most out of everyone else…Mark Streit is the only guy who should be the captain…
I completely agree with this.
I am a huge Kyle fan too but I think you are 100% correct.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 11, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe it should be Streit, but I think the Isles are going to go with KO.
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I think by the time KO finds his game, JT will be the captain.
Not a knock on KO, but the way JT acts he reminds me of another JT (Jonathan Toews). He’s going to be ont he ice more than anyone and he will get the respect of the refs. He’s just not their now.
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by Hockey1919 on Jul 12, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Voted Nielsen
I consider a captain’s job to be three things:
1. Provide Leadership through Moral Support and Veteran Experience.
2. Be able to teach the others on both sides of the ice.
Frans is the only one who fits both, with plenty of experience and the ability to handle both parts of the game – and he’s quite respected by everyone.
(Mind you, I think the Captaincy is merely a symbolic thing really but still.)
BTW, Mark Streit will get the C.
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Streit
Of course he will, but I would love to see Frans or Amac…for god sakes they don’t even get paid!
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by Keith Quinn on Jul 11, 2011 8:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
There's another reason not to give it to Frans or even Tavares.
Giving a player the C could slightly drive up his price, as it attaches the “leader” label to that player.
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Good thought
Give it to a guy locked in. Although, I think that sucks, it is a consideration. Sends a bad message though. Luckily, no one sticks out head and shoulders above.
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by Keith Quinn on Jul 11, 2011 8:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, it'll have next to no effect on Tavares' value, and probably little on Frans.
But it’s a tiny point.
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So small it may work the opposite way.
We’ve shown you a committment, we love you, we’ve given you the C, you can’t think we would ever offer you any less than what you are worth. My ex-employer tried that with me once, I took the money someplace else.
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But
it also sends the message they are committed to him. Give him the C and extend him before he becomes a FA. While it might drive up the price, it also gives him another carrot to come back since he’s probably not going to be the captain on a new team.
And really, can the prices get any crazier?
Does the third thing require a high level security clearance to be able to post it?
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I Voted Other
… I voted other not because I don’t think anyone is worthy … I think you have to hand out “A’s” … and make it a competition for a LONG TERM job. Mark Streit might not be the long term solution since he has 2 years left on his deal. If by January Mark is doing his thang … resign him for 3 additional years and give him the “C” … if you get Johnny T signed to an extension in January … you thow his helmet into the ring too. I know Kyle and Mark are the sentimental favorites for this honor … but Cappy and the players have to really decide who’s their leader. I want JT to score goals, Kyle to dig pucks out of the corners and Streit to QB the power play. Lets not forget about Fransy … I know he’s also a candidate … but he’s a UFA soon too. The commitment works both ways.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Jul 11, 2011 8:56 PM EDT reply actions
Hamonic.....
I think they might do the three “A” thing again and maybe when they get a new building – OH!!! PLEASE!! OH!! PLEASE!!!! PLEASE!!!!! PLEASE!!! – Then they announce 1) a new building with 2) a young new team and 3) a new captain. Any takers?
I just finished reading “De Brød Isen”, which is a book Dominik looked at a while ago about the emergence of Danish hockey players in the NHL. Because I am Danish, Bruce Peter over at Puckworlds once asked me to do a review/article on it, and I have finally decided to take him up on the offer. As a result, I am currently working on a project in which I will do a small overview of each player profiled in the book (Frans Nielsen, Peter Regin, Mikkel Bødker, Jannik Hansen, Philip Larsen, Lars Eller, Morten Madsen, Kirill Starkov and Kim Staal) and put them on SBN site of the team the player first signed a contract with. Hopefully I’ll end up with an overall review at Puckworlds, work permitting.
I plan to start with Nielsen and post the overview in a Fanpost here on this site. I can already tell you that some of the things most apparent in the interviews with and profile of Nielsen are the growth of his leadership qualities, as he essentially becomes the leader of the Danish national hockey team, and his dedication towards the Islanders. At one point Nielsen discusses his 500k contract and says he does not think he is underpaid. He would have “signed for a pair of shoes” to get a one-way contract that guaranteed he would stay up with the Islanders and get NHL ice time. He adores Long Island and likens it to his hometown of Herning.
In short, the dedication is very much there on the part of Frans Nielsen. If the dedication is also there from the Islanders management, I don’t see why he wouldn’t be an Islander for life. He loves the team.
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by Madelle on Jul 11, 2011 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 10 recs
This is fantastic!
Thank you so much! Really looking forward to it! And I really hope he is going to stay as long as he holds up.
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by Keith Quinn on Jul 11, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
He should always remember that we love him.
Fuck stats, Nielsen is one of those unsung heroes who trudges along and remains in the fans thoughts for life.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Jul 12, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Tremendous!
The $500K made sense from a fans’ perspective at the time. He was an emerging talent that could do everything without a superstar skillset. If you compare it to Rick’s contract, it looks like all he got were the laces, but it was done to cover his RFA period. Hopefully they can sign him up for the next 5 years at four times as much. That would put the FNGO line on long term lock down.
I also think he will be in the running with KO, Josh(yep..two years from now he’ll be close to the top of the list) and MacDonald when Streit gives up the “C”.
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DP is pretty emotionally invested in this rebuild I think. He is the longest tenured Islander I think Yes?
DP is a good guy who’s had some tough breaks the last few years….I think he feels indebted to Charles Wang and perhaps such a responsibility while reinvigorate him…..
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by Keith Quinn on Jul 11, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
and thankfully, this isn't an option
By rule, goaltenders cannot serve as team captains or alternates in the NHL. They had to pass some sort of balderdash exception to give Luongo captaincy status. It’s ridiculous.
You’d expect I would be on the goalie’s side on this, but I’m not. The rules forbid me from crossing the red line (unless I’m jumping the boards for an extra skater), or even from leaving my crease area if there’s a scuffle somewhere. How in Bossy’s name am I going to go over to the refs to ask for a ruling on something I only saw from 175 feet away? It’s stupid, that’s how. If I want to be involved in the off-ice team stuff that captains traditionally handle, I can jolly well do it without a C if I’m the keeper.
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By rule, goaltenders cannot serve as team captains or alternates in the NHL. They had to pass some sort of balderdash exception to give Luongo captaincy status. It’s ridiculous.
No they didnt, he was not really their captain and could not do any of the on-ice things that a captain does. He could only make pretend to be captain in an off-ice and not technically official capacity.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
OH
Had no idea. So, in effect, it was a flimflammery faux balderdash exception. (I think if you work out the varoius double-negatives, that means no exception at all.) Even better.
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Yup.
Thats why he never had a C on his jersey- he wasnt allowed to actually BE captain, despite whatever was being said otherwise. You cannot spell Captain without a C- and if you dont wear one, you arent really the Captain. Painting a C on your chin does not count.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone on the Canucks, Calgary and Canadiens are Captains. They have the C's right on their chest.
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Well
depends on what you mean by “really”. As far as his teammates and coaches were concerned he was the captain. As far as the NHL was concerned he wasn’t. I’d imagine what happens in the locker room is a lot more important than having a handful of on-ice conversations with the officials.
Another example seems to be Washington. OV wears the C, but it sure seems like Knuble is the leader of that team.
depends on what you mean by "really".
Yup, Im talking about the league in which these men really play. Luongo was never officially captain of the Canucks. They can call anyone they want their captain if they feel like it- they could have adopted Hoppy’s rabbit sibling and called it captain and paint a C on his fur if they wanted to… but the NHL would not call him captain.
The Luongo thing was stupid, and they even realized it and stopped it once they placated his ego enough.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually
he very much was officially the captain, even according to the NHL. The only thing he couldn’t do was wear a C on his jersey.
By League rules, Luongo cannot wear the ‘C,’ but he can be named captain.
http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?bcid=384232
And really, placate his ego? I’m pretty sure even you don’t believe that. As McGillis said in the above article (emphasis mine):
"Over the summer, I talked to him about leadership and how this should become his team and, notwithstanding the position he plays, how he should be the person that leads this team. Alain came up with this idea on his own and the people we mentioned it to were thrilled with it. We’re very pleased with the decision.’’
by afrosupreme on Jul 12, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Luongo could NOT act as Captain for that team on the ice.
No, he WAS NOT allowed. They DID NOT change the rule that says he CANNOT be Captain, a rule that has sat there since like the frickin 50s.
They could call him whatever the fuck they wanted OFF the ice. Like I said, they could call anyone “Captain” OFF the ice if they wanted to. But in the ACTUAL GAME, the whole POINT of this, he was most NOT Captain.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
(most certainly)
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Visceral? Hardly.
If I was being visceral I would base him not being Captain purely on the fact that I think he is a bit of a headcase. While that is true, I base Captaincy on things that you can qualify- tangible, provable FACTS- he could not act as Captain on the ice, he could not wear a C on the ice, and the rules preventing a goalie from doing these things were NOT removed for him. If you instead base being Captain not on who wears the C and is allowed by NHL rules to BE captain, thats something else- but then you are the one being visceral and emotional, not me.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 13, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Right
so when I dig up an article that states specifically that the NHL recognized him as being the captain of the team, the only caveats being he could not wear the C or speak with officials, I was being visceral. That makes perfect sense. Again, I apologize.
And if you think those are the most important responsibilities of a captain, you truly have no concept of team sports. There is a whole lot more that captains do, both on and off the ice, that are far more important than getting a clarification from a referee.
YOU are talking about what it means to be a leader.
I was talking about what it means to be allowed to be a Captain of an NHL franchise.
You do not have to be Captain to be a leader.
And being a good leader does not mean that you have to be named Captain.
Luongo was not only NOT Captain, but it looks like he is not the greatest leader, either. (No surprise to me.) I mean- if he WAS, by your logic, he would still have a C painted on his chin. And he doesnt. Wasnt your point that the C on his chn denoted leadership?
No offense to you at all, I just find it amazing that anyone would defend something this contrived and dopey. If the Isles had done anything like this they would STILL be getting the everloving shit bashed otu of them for it.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 13, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
No
I never brought up the C on his chin. I didn’t think that was meaningful. I just pointed at articles (there are plenty of them) that relay that he was in fact the captain of the Canucks, and the NHL recognized him as so.
You are saying he can’t be a captain if he doesn’t wear a C and talk to the referees. That is not true.
I expanded my argument to include leadership qualities as a way to highlight the fact that he was fulfilling roles expected of a captain.
I’m not defending what they did. It was obviously a mistake that both he and the coaches realized quickly.
I’ll requote it, “By League rules, Luongo cannot wear the ‘C,’ but he can be named captain.” It can not be any more plain. He was named the captain. That’s that. I’m sorry if you can’t accept it, but it’s a fact.
This is an intensely stupid discussion, but you have not presented a single shred of evidence that he was not captain. It is simply your interpretation that he was not because he didn’t wear the C.
Once again
They can “name” anyone Captain- that doesnt MAKE him Captain. You keep talking about what the NHL acknowledged- but the NHL did not acknowledge Luongo as Captain of the team in any technical way. With what they did, they basically said to the Canucks “OK you can call him Captain if you really want to, we wont stop you from this dopiness, as long as you understand that he cannot wear a C, he cannot behave as a captain at any time during an NHL game, and we are not changing our rules for him that prevent him from doing so.”
You consider that “acknnowledgment”, I guess- even though the acknowledgment of a teams Captain in any other realm of NHL reality is allowing him the honor of putting a C on his jersey.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 13, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I named my least favorite kid Doctor,
which is legal, but he isn’t allowed to practice medicine in the State of New York.
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by Hockey1919 on Jul 13, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
niccccce
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 13, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
And YES, placate his ego
What the fuck kind of ego must a man have to want to be the make-pretend captain of a team and paint a C on his chin? They placated him by giving in to this dumb idea because they wanted him to sign long term. Once he did, they eliminated his dumb fake captaincy.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 12, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no stand-out captain from my point of view
I don’t spend time with the players, but I see the Isles starting the season with two or three As and no C. Around December they name a captain.
The only two who have enough NHL experience to be captain (along with other captain qualities) are Nielsen and Streit IMO. I’d be hesitant with Streit coming back from such a severe injury. Nielsen would be good, I think, but is he vocal enough?
Amac, JT, and Okposo could each potentially be captain, but I’m not sure any of them proved to be a “player to emulate” on the ice for a long enough period of time. (Each of them has had one stand-out season from what I remember.)
I think waiting at least 20 games would be best for the Isles. Then they can choose between those 5, or whoever else.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 11, 2011 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
Perhaps the idea was...
…to take away Konopka and see who emerges as the leader. Seemed he was the vocal leader much of last season— largely because he’s very vocal. I say give it time. Somewhere between 20 and 40 games into the season I think we’ll see a new captain.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 11, 2011 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
No the idea was to take away Konopka and replace him with someone better.
Konopka was an okay player. But Reasoner brings far more offense and is at least as good a defender, and is barely worse on faceoffs.
Leadership does not account for that big of a talent gap.
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I agree Reasoner is a big step up on the ice
….but I’m not sure that Konopka’s on-the-ice shortcoming was the sole reason he was let go. My point was that when Konopka is not talking, it gives other players a chance to talk. (Not that it’s bad to have multiply vocal leaders, but taking away the most vocal leader encourages others to talk more— or at least provides them more opportunity.)
Or perhaps it is just coincidence. Or perhaps it won’t have any of this effect.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jul 12, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Reasoner is also a character guy without being a caricature.
He can play the game well enough on the fourth line and brings the right intensity without being a distraction. I think Zeke made great copy, but what this team needs now is to play winning hockey.
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I loved Konopka telling the TSN reporter, "we're not doormats."
As a player, Konopka will be forgotten, but he sticks up for his squad, which is sometimes more than can be said of fancy, expensive players. I really wish Konopka great luck in Ottawa.
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by Turgeon1992 on Jul 12, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Mark Streit
Mark Streit brought alot of poise to this team and exceeded expectations when he got here as an FA. The fact that he came here when the team was at it lowest(?), possibly for the money, but he earned it!! Steady, reliable and stays out of the box. As for KO, I really could see a comparison to what happened to Kenny Jonsson. Made him captain too early, could not respond at the time he got it and it really affected his game at a time when he was nearing Norris considerations. KO has not met his stride and in about 4-5 years might be an excellent candidate. Streit seems so natural in what he does, I think he is the only player that could start this season with the C. As for the goalie, maybe this was brought up, but a goalie can not be a captain in the NHL. Right??
by St. Dick on Jul 12, 2011 1:08 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
agreed with this
The guy didn’t have to come over here. And, having made big bank, he didn’t have to come over with the mindset and the dedication that he did. He didn’t sit back and play “good enough for a bad team” hockey, or “cover my ass and get my stats” hockey. He played fantastically and it was the real beginning of hockey looking more hopeful on Long Island again. I think that’s the sort of thing you should reward. I’d give Frans an A as well, and probably JT for the second A.
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by mikb on Jul 12, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Actions
Mark Streits actions, I feel, have earned him the captaincy. He saw an opportunity and ran with it, made the most of it and that is what this young team needs, a real leader in every aspect of the word. I am sure Moulson (who deserves an alternate, and maybe use the third as a reward or inspiration for the younger guys) was inspired by this guy, and in turn he has inspired alot of the guys in Streits absence. I see a parallel between Streit and Snow, in a way, they saw the Island as a challenge and an opportunity, that they are making the most of. Let the kids mature and find their game before burdening them with being a captain.
I like JT for the Big C.
He’s going into his third season, he’s shown leadership skills (like working with Strome, probably selling him on the idea of signing with the Isles), he’s got an “It” Factor that surpasses his relative youth, he handles pressure and the media well and it’d be a nice way for the organization to prep the ground for “The BIG Deal”.
The one where Wanger backs the Brinks truck up to Johnny’s doorstep, the drivers jump out and just start lobbing money bags through the front door and Wanger says to Johnny “Say ‘When’”.
He’s the face of the franchise and I think he’s got the personality and nature where, even at this age, he can handle it.
Not that I’d have a beef if they gave the C to Streit or Oko, but I think giving the C to Tavares has more value both short term and long term for the club on the whole.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jul 12, 2011 2:35 AM EDT reply actions
btw
Hate, Hate, Hate the idea of not having a Captain, even if Weight barely played last season.
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I feel like KO getting the captaincy
Would be like the Jonsson mistake. No doubt KJ was a fantastic player and the best on the team, but it was obvious that he didn’t really want or couldn’t really do that job because he was too reserved.
I think KO is still at that point where he isn’t comfortable being vocal and has to worry too much about his game. Who knows, some guys rally when given reaponsiblity…some guys shrink though. If he gets it, let’s hope he’s the former.
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by Keith Quinn on Jul 12, 2011 8:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Mark Streit (Okposo, Tavares) 18:10
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by pgat28 on Jul 12, 2011 8:37 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I have several criteria, in descending order of importance
Veteran presence — Someone who has been here long enough that he is associated with the team and can safely be said to have some investment in it’s future.
Part of (sorry) “Teh Core” — Someone who is probably going to be here for a while. I am tired to death of changing Captains every second season (or worse). Continuity is important.
Durable and Serviceable — Someone who we can be reasonably sure will be on the ice for a significant part of the game, and almost as important, someone who will be on the ice in significant parts of the game. Captain does us no good if he’s on the bench during that last minute scrum.
Leadership — Someone who will LEAD this team, by example, by threats and intimidation, by standing up to the other team, by putting our position forward to the referees and running interference with management for the other players in the Locker Room.
Experience — Someone who will not be distracted from the primary job of developing into the best hockey player he can be by having unnecessary extra duties dumped on him. Much as I love JT and MM, I don’t want them worrying about anything but scoring (and, hopefully, getting better on the defensive side of the puck).
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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jul 12, 2011 9:23 AM EDT reply actions
GG reading comprehension.
Sorry.
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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jul 12, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I like your criteria
I used some of the same thinking in choosing Streit. One other criteria I use is NHL officiating respect. A guy like Crosby gets far more leeway to complain than a guy like Reasoner would. No point in having a Captain that the ref turns his back to.
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I believe when Streit’s contract is up, Kyle Okposo will be the man. But right now I feel Kyle needs to work on completing his game, especially scoring wise, and not be burdened with the extra responsibilities of the captaincy. Reasoner is too new. Hunter too fragile. The other guys (save Tavares who in my opinion is too young) are not really leaders. That leaves you with good ole Mark Streit, who I believe would be the ideal candidate to keep the C warm for young Kyle.
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by Chris McNally on Jul 12, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Outsider view
Rangers fan here, don’t kill me. (Or if you do, at least tell my family I love them)
When I think leader of the Islanders, I don’t think of Streit. Maybe because he was hurt last year, I don’t know. The two names that come to mind are Frans Nielsen and Kyle Okposo.
I think the two of them have shown they are willing to fight for their teammates, and can lead the team as well.
The more realistic of the two is Okposo, who is also under contract for a while, and young but not too young.
I vote Okposo.
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by Brandon C. on Jul 14, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
As a Ranger fan, thanks for your opinion.
As a Ranger fan, you don’t get a vote ;).
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by Hockey1919 on Jul 15, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The last "Ranger" that help us....
was Don Maloney as our GM and look how that turned out!
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Nah
The last Ranger that helped us was PAP!
And before that, Doug Weight.
And before that- um, Cairns lol?
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 16, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Bad for you!
Considering my “vote” was going to be yes on August 1st!
Seriously though, and I know I’m going off topic here, I hope the Islanders do stay in NY and get their new arena. I love the Rangers Islanders rivalry (especially considering my brother is an Islanders fan) and it wouldn’t be the same if the Islanders are all broken down and whatnot.
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by Brandon C. on Jul 17, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Indeed
not that there’s any danger of it, but I would hate it of the Rangers were gone.
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by Keith Quinn on Jul 18, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Good luck on August 1st!
After that…maybe not the best of luck for the Islanders :)
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Unless
is Trent Hunter an option?
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