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NHL Bandwagon Strikes Again (At least from the Cynical Isles Fan POV)



...okay, so we're out of the playoffs and have been for some time...but i know a bunch of you are following the SCF series.

Watching it has brought me a (in my opinion/from my point of view) valid question: How long until the NHL realizes that it's so called "squeeky clean" superstars (Zdena Chara, Tim Thomas, Sydney Crosby, and the likes) are not as clean as they realize.  Playing the game at a high speed and high emotions, things will happen, and hopefully now that we have Shanny as a disciplinarian, there will be a clear-cut code of conduct for players to adhere to...however, anyone else getting the carry-over feeling from the regular season that since Gregory Campbell is on the Bruins that they are getting a little extra liberties?  The whole Tim Thomas antics have to stop.  Imagine if that was any one of our 9-100 goalies we had in net this year...they would be banned for life simply because of the crest sewn on their jersey...however, the fact that this is the SCF and these teams have made names for themselves as winning teams, there is leeway, and frankly I can see the whole "BRUINS WILL WIN NO MATTER WHAT" mentality written all over this.  I hate to say it but i would rather watch USA Hockey or some foreign puck rather than the political and bullshit battle that has become the NHL.

 

Proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfKHlclh1J4

^^ no need to comment on what would happen if RDP or Al Montoya or anyone of sorts did something similar...they would have already been hung  (in the literal sense) by Colin Campell.

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Hmmmmmm......

…..well, if you’re posting this in response to TT’s jousting with the Burr, gonna have to say that Alexandre got that started by trying to knock Thomas’ stick out’ his hands, and a lot of Canucks have been using theirs on him all series so it’s right in (goal)keeping…..Marchand most assuredly got on my nerves last night and my opinion of him has deteriorated as a result, though…..

by ogam5 on Jun 9, 2011 7:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Alexandre got that started by trying to knock Thomas’ stick out’ his hands

He blatantly DID knock the stick out of his hand- Tim just got it back really quickly. And with another 4G league, I dont blame Thomas one bit for risking the penalty in retaliation.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Jun 9, 2011 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

'4G league'? 4 million bytes? (Thankfully, that isn't 'bites'!)

THINK I have a sense of what you meant by that, but can’t quite articulate it, C:) Truth be known, I fell asleep for part of the 3rd and awakened to see Burrow’s crosscheck of TT…..check FB when you get a chance; hollered at you over there this AM…..

by ogam5 on Jun 9, 2011 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Also, just so we're CLEAR (and I suspect this site's administrator will concur):

Frans Nielsen and Michael Grabner ARE ‘squeaky clean’! Comparatively, anyhow…..

by ogam5 on Jun 9, 2011 8:57 AM EDT reply actions  

That's the way I like em

As long as all of our good young players stay “squeaky clean” and dont pull any of the Patrick Kane antics and just focus on playing hockey, I’ll be happy if thats all they’re in the papers for

by BPlaia on Jun 9, 2011 9:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Whoa whoa whoa

Michael Grabner is clean, maybe. But FRANS!? That guy is one of the most dangerous players in the league, he’s a complete ogre. Just ask Danny Briere.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Jun 15, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I honestly haven't found the B's to be any cheaper than the Canucks

There are repeat offenders on both teams (Lucic, Horton, maybe Chara; Burrows, Lapierre…maybe Kesler).

I don’t have a problem with either of Thomas’ “antics” either. Kerry Fraser went into the rulebook reasons of why Thomas is allowed to check a Sedin who waltzes into his crease, too. Meanwhile, as others have said, Burrows chopped Thomas’ stick out of his hands (which is no surprise given Burrows history).

Agreed that things will happen with emotions high though. I’m glad they put a stop to the finger-bite-simulation silliness.

It’s weird, I don’t feel strongly about either of these teams, so I just see a few players I really like playing well, a few players I can’t stand playing well but doing typically toolish things.

I find it funny that the B’s obit was written after they’d lost two measly road games, and now that they’ve tied it up people are writing the Canucks’ obit. Three games left! No team has lost at home. The first two games were razor-thin close. The next two were blowouts. It’s called a series!

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A doughnut with no hole is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jun 9, 2011 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

I find it funny that the B’s obit was written after they’d lost two measly road games, and now that they’ve tied it up people are writing the Canucks’ obit

What, people jumping the gun on things? I’ve never heard of that before! ;)
As they say, you’re not in trouble until you lose at home. Or lose Game 7 as the road team

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 9, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL
Or lose Game 7 as the road team

Yeah, that is the silent killer.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A doughnut with no hole is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jun 9, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Billy Smith

If he played in today’s game, he probably be playing with a uniform with black horizontal stripes.

by altosax on Jun 9, 2011 11:06 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

This all comes back to the bite

Burrows gets a game for the bite, and I bet most of this goes away

Neither side is innocent here, and while I like Thomas, a slash to Burrow’s knee was pretty cheap, especially in a game they’d already won.

Maybe I’m just tired of not being in the playoffs, and its making me ornery. Or maybe I’m deciding between two fairly unlikeable teams (at least, the more I watch them they become more unlikeable)

This is what the series has come down to, I’m offering a defense of Alex Burrows. I need a shower

by Dr. Copp on Jun 9, 2011 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Funny thing is

…If Burrows goes down to the ice and pretends his knee is done, good chance Thomas is suspended. (Sounds like something Burrows may do too.) Imagine if that happened! We might have seen Rask v. Schneider for Game 5.

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jun 9, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, the Bruins have gotten away with a lot of stuff in the regular season.

The stanchion hit by chara and a few lucic incidents I recall were definitely suspension worthy and he got nothing, probably a play or 2 prior to the SCF could have gotten Lucic or another bruin suspended too.

But I don’t understand the Thomas thing. He got his stick slashed out of his hands. So he returns the favor. You wanna suspend Thomas for a game, you have to suspend Burrows for a game because he is just as much as fault. But no one will suspend a starting goalie in the nhl SCF unless they really deserve it. Nothing to see there now, so move along.

That said, I’ll honestly say I believe the Bruins and Nucks are both 2 of the nhl’s “dirtier” teams with the antics and stuff they do.

For the Nucks:
-Torres practically has a charging on every hit he does and brings his elbow/arms up “a lot”.
-Burrows/Kesler/Sedins have a diving video or collection of videos floating around somewhere to show how “cheap” they are. Youtube it if you don’t believe me.
-Burrows biting a finger, slashing a goalie stick, swinging at a goalie(slashing or not), and being a douche in other ways
-The borderline clipping penalties the nucks d-men love to throw for some reason
-Rome’s hit

For the Bruins:
-Lucic, enough said
-Horton before he got hurt took all the liberties he could get and was a hot head
-Thornton goes over the edge every now and then
-Marchand earns his pim

And both teams get dirty in scrums and have their after whistle antics.

These are 2 of the “dirtier” teams in the nhl. I really want neither to win the cup. But if I had to pick, I want the cup to stay in the east as long as it’s not the Pens or the Rangers winning it.

by OzzyFan on Jun 9, 2011 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Bias

I want the B’s to win because of the overthetop its time for a Canadian team to win.

by altosax on Jun 9, 2011 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Was talking with some other SBN managers about that

I’m not sure how many Canadians outside of B.C. actually want the Canucks to win. It feels more like one of those media rally the flag and sell the papers things.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A doughnut with no hole is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jun 9, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care what the rest of Canada thinks

But SBN editors are probably a lot more hardcore about loyalty than the vast majority of hockey fans in Canada. Not everyone is a diehard fan of their team, and not everyone even has a team. Honestly we’re just one big bandwagon country most of the time. See: Calgary 04, Edmonton 06, Ottawa 07…

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 9, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you're saying there is a big rallying point in Canada for the Canucks, right?

That seems so weird. If we’re talking cities, I’m definitely rooting for Vancouver-ites. If we’re talking countries — well, hell, the Blue Jays were my American team so I’m probably not a good gauge.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A doughnut with no hole is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jun 9, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no clue

But I’m sure there are tons of casual hockey fans who would cheer any team from Canada that’s in the finals. There’s a bunch of people I know who were trying to get everyone to go to sports bar last night to watch the game and cheer on the Canucks. And I’ve never heard them mention hockey before. And they’re all from Ontario.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 9, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, I wonder if it's hard-core vs. soft-core. (We're still talking about hockey, right?)

The Canadians I’ve heard from have entrenched loyalties that cannot abide a Canucks victory…but then it’s not like the Bruins have a very friendly following outside of Boston.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A doughnut with no hole is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jun 10, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Comments on TSN Are very anti-Canucks.

Even Habs fans are rooting for the Bruins- which is insane.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Jun 9, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

There were a handful of moments in the Bruins-TB series

where Boston got off way too easily

Hornton squirted and threw a water bottle at a fan and didn’t even receive a fine.

Then there is this: Not as bad as the Rome hit, but certainly comparable to a lesser degree, no suspension.

"..."

by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on Jun 9, 2011 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I think the only reason that hit “is not as bad” as the Rome hit is because Horton was stretchered off. If you take out the injuries, I hope people would say Ryder’s hit was much more predatory

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 9, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I do think there's another reason

To me, Ryder is turning and his first reaction is avoidance — as he’s doing his natural turn you can see him make a sharper cut once he realizes the opponent is coming toward him. These two guys are cars crossing at an intersection not expecting to see each other.

Looks like Ryder then moves into “hit or be hit” mode and jumps into the hit. I didn’t see other angles but from that view it sincerely looks to me like Ryder didn’t plan any contact until the last moment.

But I do wish they’d penalize bad hits that don’t end badly.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A doughnut with no hole is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Jun 10, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I don't fault Thomas for that slash on Burrows.

Knock my stick out of my hands and watch me slash the back of your leg, too (I’m a goalie). You can’t blame Thomas for reacting without blaming Burrows for instigating. It’s all part of the situation. These incidents have made for an interesting series, especially since the Canucks decided to play like bratty babies in games 3 and 4.

The finger bite is similar to this incident. If Bergeron doesn’t want his finger bitten, maybe he should get his stupid gloves out of Burrows face while the ref prevents Burrows from protecting himself. If I was in the situation and my only leverage was to bite the glove, I’d do it in a heartbeat, especially with a member of a bully team face washing me over and over. The Bruins have been trying to intimidate the Canucks (and it’s worked so far), so I can’t get on the Canucks for retaliating (much like the Thomas slash).

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Jun 9, 2011 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

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