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Islanders NHL Draft, Rounds 4-7: Robbie Russo, John Persson, Brenden Kichton, Mitchell Theoret

Islanders 4th-round pick Robbie Russo. Photo courtesy of Western College Hockey Blog.

We've done separate posts for the Islanders' first four selections in the 2011 NHL Draft -- plus the trade of Bruno Gervais. So head to the other threads for info and discussion on: Forward Ryan Strome at #5, big defenseman project Scott Mayfield at #34, "all-around" center/wing Johan Sundstrom of Sweden, and in the third round, 6'4" Guelph (OHL) defenseman Andrey Pedan.

This post serves as our "flotsam" post collecting anything about their picks from the fourth to the seventh rounds and your immediate thoughts on the draft, which concluded with:

  • 4th Round (95th): Robbie Russo, a mid-sized all-around defenseman for the U.S. NTDP who's headed to Notre Dame.
  • 5th Round: Red Deer LW John Persson at 125, and Spokane D-man Brenden Kichton at 127.
  • 7th Round (185): Niagara C Mitchell Theoret, who has a blog on OHL life, dontcha know...

A good collection of thoughts and links on Russo is at Western College Hockey Blog, where the manager Chris is a Minnesota resident who has seen plenty of Russo, and had this to say well before the Islanders selected him:

Star-divide

One big factor in favor of Russo's pro chances is that in the new NHL--especially thanks to the success of teams like Detroit and Vancouver--puck possession is at a premium, and that is an area that Russo really excels at. He's unlikely to be a shutdown defender, but shouldn't be a liability in his own end. He'll be a valuable, dependable player, even if he isn't overly noticeable.

Russo is a classic case of a player that is very good at everything, but isn't quite great in any one area. A great comparison for Russo would be the last player I saddled with that label: Matt Donovan.

Brenden Kichton

From The Scouting Report:

After earning an invite to the Detroit Red Wings prospect camp, Kichton was returned to the Chiefs with a broken hand and would be forced to miss the first part of the WHL season. Kichton made an immediate impact upon his return, potting two assists as the Chiefs won only their third game of the young season. The young defender hasn’t looked back since, and has spent the majority of his season leading the “rebuilding” Chiefs on a march towards Western Hockey League supremacy.

More from them, describing Kitchton as a sleeper and a "poor man's Dan Boyle":

Kichton is an excellent skater, a great passer, and has terrific hockey sense, deftly able to join the rush and create chances. He’s also a very underrated player in his own end, with strong lateral play and good decision making. His shot could use some work, though he does seem to be able to get it through traffic more often than not. It’s definitely not a weakness.

Mitchell Theoret, C, Niagara

With their final pick in the bottom of the draft, the Islanders took a flier on Mitchell Theoret, one of those "hard worker" types. For a window into his world, check out his blog, "Life of an OHL Plug."

More will be added to this post as more picks -- and info on them -- come in. Meanwhile, our second-round open discussion thread continues here.

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Seth Ambroz

Why did we pass on him?
To me that has been our only mistake in this draft so far.

Is he a party boy or something?

by TheMagus on Jun 25, 2011 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't know what's up

But that’s been the buzz around here, how Ambroz kept dropping. Gopher bias?

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by Dominik on Jun 25, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

skating is one issue...

i wondered this too, but one pattern to Isles’ scouting seems to be not drafting prospects who can’t skate…it began this year with passing on Courturier…Snow seems to have taken a page out of Edmonton’s book looking for speed

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 25, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot where I read it

But I heard he might be a real headcase. Degrees worse than Kabanov was perceived.

Vote Yes on August 1st.

by Anarcurt on Jun 25, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kichton sounds like a steal

Check out this article from The Scouting Report

He’s one year older, but his stats in the WHL were awesome last year. Only slight on him is that he’s 5’11".

64 (GP) 23 (G) 58 (A) 81 (Pts) 55 (+/-) 31 (PM)

by Uwe43 on Jun 25, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

i know seriously

he put up better stats than ryan murphy in a league thats arguably harder to score in
is he just really terrible in his own end or is it just the size issue?

"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992

by Zhora on Jun 25, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure

His +/- was a 55 and he put up 81 points, which is not bad at all, but +/- isn’t the best indicator. And Ryan Murphy is small too. So I think we definitely got a steal here.

by sayvillelax94 on Jun 25, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

has to be something to it...

maybe Murphy is younger? the rationale has to come out at some point

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 25, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

there you go

murphy is a year younger than kitchon
but still, that cant be the only reason can it?
His numbers went down in the playoffs, 11pts in 17 games
maybe he cant perform in pressure situations? who knows

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by Zhora on Jun 25, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right Wing

We did well this draft but we still need help on the right wing for JT. Otherwise, this draft makes a lot of sense.

We got bigger and faster.

by TheMagus on Jun 25, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Johan Sundstrom

Johan Sundstrom

European Skater

Frolunda, SWEDEN

Final Rank:

24

Midterm Rank:

17

Position:

Center

Shoots:

Right

Height:

6’ 2"

Weight:

196

Born:

September 21, 1992

 

 

Born in:

Gothenburg, SWE

by WRANGLERICK on Jun 25, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

so what is the story on this kid????

1 point in 41 games in any league is bad, why did he get drafted???

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 25, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that was the SEL

In Swedish juniors, he lit it up pretty good. He was a rookie in the SEL, so probably got stuck with crap ice time and defensive assignments. Paging David Hanssen or Ben Hasna???

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by Keith Quinn on Jun 25, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hellberg

is best young keeper from Sweden since Markström. Many in Sweden believe he has more potential than Robin Lehner.

Sundström played in the pro league and really should have played with the juniors for one more year. Frölunda, the club he plays for, had some serious issues all season long and were fighthing against relegation. Therefore I guess he got limited ice time. He did actually ok in the WJC. Expect to see a better season this coming season.

I read from a Swedish scout that said if someone picked Sundström as high as 2nd or 3rd round they hadn’t made proper scouting in Sweden. I still think this kid has potential to be really good though.

by DavidSweden on Jun 25, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks david...

i knew you werre high on hellburg, and generally your info on sweden’s prospects is pretty accurate…looks like NHL is finally getting wise to Sweden, rather than just a few teams…i really thought Hellburg would have been around longer…

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 25, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hellburg

I’d take him for the name alone…that’s fantastic.

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by Keith Quinn on Jun 25, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

awesome

Mark Schiefle can tell his grandkids, “I was so awesome at hockey, the ENTIRE LEAGUE drafted me.”

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by mikb on Jun 27, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

SCOTT MAYFIELD

• Competing in his second season for the Youngstown Phantoms in the United States Hockey League, Mayfield recorded 16 points (7-9—16) in 52 games. The Phantoms missed the playoffs in 2010-11 by two points, but to combat the long off-season, he has been getting on the ice by helping his former youth and high school coach, Dave Garth, coach a spring team.

• Mayfield has committed to the University of Denver for the fall of 2011 – "My dad went to law school in Denver. I remember when I was eight, nine years old we would go and visit (my dad’s friends) and they would take me to the rink. Walking around, just seeing how big it was, I’ve always wanted to play there. At Christmas when I was ten years old I got a Denver jersey. It’s been hanging above my bed (since then) and just to commit there was amazing for me."
 
• He won a gold medal for the U.S. at the 2010 World Junior ‘A’ Challenge, defeating Canada East 6-4 in the gold medal game after facing 4-1 deficit halfway through the game. He was selected tournament MVP and to the first all-star team.

• Prior to joining the USHL, Mayfield played for the St. Louis Amateur Blues and his first hockey team was the Webster Groves Wings.

• His childhood hockey idols were Al MacInnis and Bobby Orr: "MacInnis played for St. Louis and had one of the hardest shots in the League and my dad loved Bobby Orr, and he would always show me videos".
 

by WRANGLERICK on Jun 25, 2011 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

SCOTT MAYFIELD

Scott Mayfield

North American Skater

Youngstown, USHL

Final Rank:

24

Midterm Rank:

15

Position:

Defenseman

Shoots:

Right

Height:

6’ 4"

Weight:

197

Born:

October 14, 1992

Hometown:

St. Louis, MO

Born in:

St. Louis, MO, USA

Drafted:

NYI (2nd Round / 34th Overall)

by WRANGLERICK on Jun 25, 2011 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Aside from Strome ...

who the hell knows if these kids are gonna pan out, but chances are pretty good at least one of the two big d-men will, and if so, there’s some bigtime size and even meanness back there. A playmaker and a crease-clearing d-man were sorely needed, I think the GM has done a really good job.

by dose on Jun 25, 2011 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Seems like a lot of solid decision-making overall

I can’t pretend to know more about their later picks than they do. In a game where you’re rolling the dice on a bunch of kids who will more often than not fall short of the NHL, I think they rolled well.

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by Dominik on Jun 25, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

As Ed Harris ...

as John Glenn Jr. said in ‘The Right Stuff’, fu-fu-fu …darn right!

by dose on Jun 25, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

speed too

check the scouting reports of players Isles took compared to fan favourites past over…one thing all the picks have in common is they can skate….one thing fan favourite passed over have in common, they can’t skate

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 25, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks Ozzy

i went over scouting reports looking for patterns with pics, plus guys like Couturier and Ambroz that Isles passed over…seems like they plan to build a fast team…

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 25, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

We wanna be the Red Wings/Nucks. Only possible reason. lol. Following the formula.

Even Nelson and Lee, our 2 biggest forward prospects are touted as above-average mobile guys.

by OzzyFan on Jun 25, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

in 1984, aside from health and injuries, it was speed that ended the drive for five..oil were so fast…maybe kenny morrow and the boys remembered that…JT may very well end up slowest skater on team, and that would be a good thing lol

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 25, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

JT makes up for by being the best offensive player on the team, hands down. lol

Can’t wait to see JT in 2yrs. He can really be that 90pts/yr guy. Frigging amazing.

by OzzyFan on Jun 25, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

and Gretzky himself was slowest skater among 80s oilers top forwards

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 25, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

So essentially the Isles...

drafting for skill, physicality, size, fighting and skating, and depth on right side (but still picked up two more small puck moving D, although this time took two big physical D also)…the Isles passed on players who were slow or had skating issues, bigging with Courturier, all the way down passed Seth Amboz.

Strome : highly skilled, fast right forward
Mayfield: big, physical right D who can skate and fight
Sundstrom: big right centre forward who can skate
Pedan: big physical left D who can skate and fight
Russo: small, LD skilled puck mover, skater
Perrson: tough fighter
Kichton" small left D puck mover
Theoret: Left Centre, fighter

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 25, 2011 2:34 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for compiling this list and summary. Good job.

It’s so funny, but Garth has a soft spot for small puckmoving D. I’ll let him get away with Kichton and his numbers, but Russo? lol. Why so many puckmoving d-men.

by OzzyFan on Jun 25, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like

Russo got some leadership skills that might valuable in the future. Did a great WJC 18 this spring where he captained US to gold.

by DavidSweden on Jun 25, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he took talent OR size in the later rounds

cuz you can’t get ’em together that late in the draft. Plus, whomever of Donovan, DeHaan, Hillen, Katic, Ness, Russo, and Kichton pans out, at least you have talent to trade with, rather than just an extra-large player lacking talent. I just think these are easier chips to trade.

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by Bryan2112 on Jun 25, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great summary

We got bigger, nastier and faster.
We added skill and smarts.
Damn….good draft….

The Islanders have a style and are building around it.

by TheMagus on Jun 25, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed, and nice list

Persson only 34 PIM for Red Deer this year…don’t think he fights.

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by Bryan2112 on Jun 25, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like that we compiled D at the Bottom of the draft

and they’re of reasonable size as well.

Just need to hope someone establishes themselves as a #1 Defensemen.

But it’s not like we don’t have a stockpile of talent that we can’t move for depth anyways.

by Chickendirt on Jun 25, 2011 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m having a hard time w/ this Sundstrom pick. I’m anxious to see what Garth says about him. 2nd round is a valuable round and to see so many negative reports makes me curious as to why they had to take him that early.

That’s the only question mark I have, otherwise I’m loving Strome, Kitchon and Mayfield especially.

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by Pauly C on Jun 25, 2011 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Potential

Played in two different leagues last year in Sweden. While playing for the SEL he was probably relegated to the third or fourth line and did minimal damage. When he played in the J20 league he cranked it up a lot.

If you check Wikipedia you will see how is numbers exploded. Also see article from the devils blog…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_Sundstr%C3%B6m

http://www.inlouwetrust.com/2011/6/16/2222318/johan-sundstrom-2011-nhl-entry-draft-prospect-profile

by TheMagus on Jun 25, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they took him, I trust he's talented

it just doesn’t look like he was slated to go that early, but my ‘sources’ are only in my head, so I’ll trust Garth

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by Pauly C on Jun 25, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had a disappointing season that’s for sure. But came back strong for the junior team in the playoffs there. But as you say, with a 2nd round pick you kinda expect to get something more.

by DavidSweden on Jun 25, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd add big Pedan, and Russo might be something, could grow inch or two also

but i had the same questions, other than size, speed and being a right shot, i don’t understand that pick. david from sweden may be able to give us more info

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 25, 2011 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

My view of the Cupboard, presented in line format, NOT saying who will pan out

REPEAT: not saying who will pan out, I just like looking at them in this arrangement

Moulson-Tavares-Strome
Grabner-Nielsen-Okposo
Niederreiter-Nelson-Kabanov
Lee-Bailey-Comeau
Petrov-Cizikas-Hunter
Martin-Haley-Rhakshani
Persson-Ullstrom-Sundstrom
Gillies-Theoret-LOL/JK
.
.
Streit-Hamonic
MacDonald-Mayfield
deHaan-Pedan (lol)
Hillen-Jurcina
Wishart-Martinek
Donovan-Russo
Kichton-Ness
Katic-deHart
.
.
DiPietro
Montoya
Poulin
Koskinen
Nilsson
Rosen (a FREED Cody ;-)

"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)

by Bryan2112 on Jun 25, 2011 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Doubt they took Strome to be a wing....not the right type of player to switch.

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by garik16 on Jun 25, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could see Nino as the top line winger with JT and MM

then putting Strome centering Grabs and Okposo on line 2

moving Neilsen down to center line 3 with PAP and Comeau

Bailey or Hunter with Martin and Haley on the 4th?

James T Paulson

by Jtpdolphins2009 on Jun 25, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would you alter your #1 Line?

The one that was dominant last year? FN-GO stays until age takes out Nielsen.

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by garik16 on Jun 25, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt they both do this year

and when they do I hope one of them is a big part of a very very powerful scoring 3rd line with guys like the Krills, Lee, Comeau, or Bailey

by rockhouse15 on Jun 26, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Snow seems to have drafted in "two's" to fill depth and system needs...and insisted on getting size and skill (other than small D puckmovers), but all had to be able to skate

I know this was to be 4 through 7 only, but I think the first three rounds analyzed with 4 through 7 provide some incite into Isles draft thinking…

To me, drafts can and should be divided into two parts. Part I, the first three rounds…Part II, rounds 4 through 7. 18 year olds have to be drafted in first three rounds…

First round & 2nd …kicker for me was reading in someone’s post (forget who now) that you draft for ceiling with early First Round picks.

Two right forwards:

Strome and Sundstrom are right shooting forwards, an area where Isles were really light in the depth chart. Strome is average size (6’1) but could add another inch or two, will play physical and Sundstrom is above average (6’2), with physical side…

two big physical D:

…Mayfield (6’4 203) and Pedan (6’4 201)….one left, one right, and again, can both skate…Mayfield has highend potential, bottoms out as solid third pairing…

Draft part II: rounds 4 through 7: Let The Serious Gambling Begin

93rd is just after top 3 rounds, a good pick to grab a slider or a riser who just missed top 90.

Two small puck moving left D

Snow roled the dice on another smallish left D puckmover for the system.Robbie Russo. Snow added another in Brandon Kichton.

Two physical fighters:

Persson and Theoretic.

All these 8 picks can skate. It seems beginning with Couturier, moving past Seth Ambroz, Isles took a pass on anyone with skating issues.

I think the Isles improved team depth, added depth to areas where no depth existed, or the depth was very shallow.

I think the system still requires two more forwards, 1 big, huge defensive right centre who can also play offensive centre on second line (he can be moved around as Strome is switched from Centre to right wing). 1 big huge right shooting right wing, who can play third line with Lee and Nelson, and spot duty on second and first line.

The D

Personally, I like the dynasty Isles model. only D drafted high was Denis Potvin.
The D needs an elite top 4 big right D, if Mayfield doesn’t develop to this, he should be safe as 3rd pairing big right D, with the second drafted big physical D, left D man Pedan (6’4 201)

With this in mind, the dynasty only had two positional D (Tomas Johnson and Steffan Perrson) and both were sound defensively. The other four were all Physical D (Potvin, Morrow, Langevin and Lane). Therefore, I believe Isles must have no more the two of their top 6 D and positional defensive D, non-physical.

Two smallish lefty puck moving D…Robbie Russo (5’11 186) and Brandon Kichton (5’10 175) join Mark Streit, Jack Hillen, Matt Donovan, Aaron Ness and Mark Katic on the depth charts here.

I think Isles greatest need on depth for the future is the big, physical number one D. Shea Weber signed on July 1, 2012 would solidify the D for the future. Dehaan and Macdonald are most likely to be the two positional, non-physical D. Add Hamonic to the top for, and Isles are one or two D at the most away….

That means, all things considered, team should be two key forwards, and one or two key D away from contention. And while there is always the risk of bust, drafted depth for positions and roles helps a lot. Law of averages says there will be highend busts, but that same law of averages says there will be unexpected draft booms.

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 25, 2011 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice analysis, some further thoughts and ponderings
All these 8 picks can skate. It seems beginning with Couturier, moving past Seth Ambroz, Isles took a pass on anyone with skating issues.

Can this be “the Grabner effect”? Maybe the staff has also realized skating will be the #1 factor in keeping a kid from being in the NHL. Positional awareness and hockey sense can be made up for with skating…and can be especially helpful for those who are focused on the defensive aspects of the game. Hockey sense is great, but if you can’t get your ass to where your brain wants it to be, game over.

The scary part of what you said:

That means, all things considered, team should be two key forwards, and one or two key D away from contention.

Is that, again, this is the same thing everyone has been saying for the past two seasons now.

The nice thing will be in a few years when these prospects are starting to show up and produce and we can deal picks and emerging prospects for current superstars or “the piece”. It will be a fun season and a great camp. I’m hoping they make some more of the games and practices public.

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by Keith Quinn on Jun 25, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the NY Fightlanders.....

The clear message in the players we selected is their physicality.

Strome, Mayfield, Pedan, Persson, Russo and Therot will drop the gloves.

Kichton can’t fight but can hit.

There is something else to consider in selecting your team.

by TheMagus on Jun 25, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed but

We could have someone on the first line willing and able to drop the gloves. I agree I don’t want my sharp shooter duking it out but teams will know not to mess with him.

by TheMagus on Jun 27, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

been thinking about that Keith: I think it is probably down to three but could be two

with cap and all, looking at depth etc., Isles are probably 3 players away from cup contention, but could be less…of course, we are counting on players panning out, but i am weighing in depth per role/position…using the old law of averages, bust versus unexpected booms that always happen…plus, you have young players like Amac and Tavares that have proven they belong. Guys like Tavares are only going to keep getting better the next few years, and as they do so will the Isles. Patients will be the key. From the fans, ownership and management. Bill Torrey was put through a lot of mental abuse from fans wanted to “win now” blow up rebuild…

I don’t think Isles will make playoffs in 2011-12, but will the following year, and four years from now will be cup contenders. What I think they need to add to the system now are guys that can be draft mid to late first and second rounds, outside of one top pairing big right D…

Pedan and Mayfield are an ideal defensive 3rd pairing if the panout…but we have no depth at all for third pairing left physical D after Pedan. We do have Dehart (I think) and Klementyev for third pairing physical defensive right D on the depth charts after Mayfield, but Mayfield would be top ranked, Dehart fights, don’t think Klementyev does

Amac and Ham -

Beginning with Dehaan, we added to more to a list of six possible replacements for Mark Streit as first line, smallish puck moving left D…(DeHaan is average size now like Amac, but DeHaan was only 5’11 when drafted). With so much depth here, someone has to panout, and it actually looks like guys will be traded out of this role/area b/c of so much depth…Hillen looks promising as well…

whats missing. Shea Weber. Hamonic is the best chance we have for this front line D captain we need, but if not, he is solid in the role he now holds. Best case senario, both Mayfield and Hamonic move up a pairing when the panout. But for now, that is what the D is missing for the future, to me. One big Shea Weber.

Forwards……..

2 guys….maybe Johan Sundstrom turns into that big right physical centre or big physical right wing, for now, he is the one and only on the depth chart for both, and i am not that comfortable with that, although i don’t know much about this kid….

I am starting to thing Kabanov will panout, if so…i suspect he will be a guy that has the claude lemeuix factor…not his best every night in regular season for 82 games, but tops in the league in the playoffs…i’d like four good right wings including kabanov for this reason. move him up and down lines….with KO, Strome and moving the right centre or Nino to right wing when Strome plays centre, a Biggs, Bobby Nystrom, a Seth Ambroz who could actually skate…6’3 220 20 goal scoring winging with an attitude… we don’t have anyone like this in system but this guy can certainly be drafted mid to late first round, second round….

The Big right centre,,,kind of like 7 up. top six forwards are:

Moulson – JT – KO
Grabs – Strome – Nino

The third line centre has to be a guy that on most teams would be a second line centre…he’s the guy that moves up when Strome his moved to the right wing with JT. Brock Nelson may be this guy…i would like to add another righty though…beyond Brock, Bailey may yet take this spot, Andrs Lee is there too but I see Lee is third line left wing of future…

Nielson is too good of a defensive teacher to let go anywhere, if he stays healthy, keep him around as second bottom six centre…he too will move up when third line centre moves to second…plus pk….

so essentially, it is down to that big physical 2nd line centre, big, physical 3rd line right winger, and either Shea Weber or our own version….plus, Isles have to keep adding depth to big physical third pairing D b/c that is probably the area where depth is weakest.

by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 26, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Physical 3rd pairing D...

is the easiest to obtain, so that’s the best area to be the err…weakest in.
- I completely agree on drafting next year mid-late 1st round big physical mean RW and/or big Mike Richards type…Mika Z woulda been perfect but what can you do lol.
- I have to believe that Scott Mayfield was drafted to be that Shea Weber type, he was expected to go mid-late 1st, they even mic’d him up on draft day 1. He may end up passing Hamonic on the deptg chart, but we’ll have to wait n see :(
- Nielsen I, for some reason, expect to have a breakout year offensively in 2011-2012. Perfect 3rd liner on a contender, either LW or C. I hope for Nielsen-Nelson-Sundstrom (or even Okposo) in the future, wheras I see Lee on the top 2 lines protecting JT or Strome.

"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)

by Bryan2112 on Jun 26, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bigger and Faster....Here they are...

1 5 RYAN STROME C CAN 6’ 0" 177 OHL
2 34 SCOTT MAYFIELD D USA 6’ 4" 203 USHL
2 50 JOHAN SUNDSTROM C SWE 6’ 2" 196 SWEDEN
3 63 ANDREI PEDAN D LTU 6’ 4" 201 OHL GUELPH
4 95 ROBBIE RUSSO D USA 5’ 11" 186 USHL USA U-18
5 125 JOHN PERSSON LW SWE 6’ 2" 199 WHL RED DEER
5 127 BRENDEN KICHTON D CAN 5’ 10" 175 WHL SPOKANE
7 185 MITCHELL THEORET C CAN 6’ 1" 210 OHL NIAGARA

by TheMagus on Jun 25, 2011 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it October yet???

whens the last time we were brimming with anticipation for a season???I hope theycan make some major strides

by KO21 on Jun 25, 2011 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

It was a nice draft

Watching and reading I have concluded (like anyone cares what I say – ask Mrs. Martyland) that this was a solid draft, no serious mistakes (although I don’t understand the Swedish guy, but it doesn’t seem horrible), needs addressed (Strome – I see him as a winger as he fills out – a right wing with good moves, a quick shot….) – this is a contending team and should be for a while as the last couple of draft classes and this one come through the system in the next few years.

Unless Strome is a world-beater this fall, I’d like to see him get the obligatory 9 games and then go back to Juniors.

by martylnd on Jun 25, 2011 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I disagree about that 9 obligatory games. This year we’re supposed to be reaching the playoffs and it is important that we have the best team available when the season starts. If players like Nino and Strome basically isn’t good enough to crack the team, send them back to juniors. There is no need to have try-out games this year.

It’s an important campaign ahead of us.

by DavidSweden on Jun 26, 2011 4:25 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe

it’s going to be harder to make the team this year than last, and he didn’t last year. He’s going to have to show an awful lot in camp to make it since he can’t be sent to the AHL if it’s December and he’s struggling.

by afrosupreme on Jun 26, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless we sign a legit 2-way top 9 forward though, one of them "is" the best player for that 3rd line(or better) spot.

If Nino or Strome don’t make the team, it’s literally gonna be post knee surgery Hunter or offensively challenged Joensuu or Martin-smash for now on that 3rd line, and I think everyone would want Nino or Strome on that 3rd line over any of them with given tools/skillsets. If we sign a top 9 forward, it’s different, but right now that’s the situation.

by OzzyFan on Jun 26, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I'm not sure a 9gm tryout with Strome hurts. Say we sit PAP for the 1st 9gms and see how he Strome does on the 1st line.

If he is having a lot of trouble, we send him back after 2-3gms, if not, we can live with him for 7-9gms. If Strome ain’t working, they won’t be afraid to end his tryout early, so we shouldn’t worry about anything if that situation occurs.

by OzzyFan on Jun 26, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Botta:

It’s paperwork time in the NHL. By extending qualifying offers, the Islanders retain the rights to six of their restricted free agents: Josh Bailey, Blake Comeau, Micheal Haley, Jesse Joensuu, Ty Wishart and Dylan Reese.

The Islanders have so far declined to make a Q. O. to defenseman Jack Hillen.

James T Paulson

by Jtpdolphins2009 on Jun 26, 2011 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

2011 - 2012 season

I think this coming season will be a very exciting and difficult season to experience. We have a lot of wonderful potential players in the kitchen cooking away which is huge change in the organization. BUT we are short a few players on our current roster to make the playoffs. We will be a team on the cusp and could possibly be a spoiler but we still need a partner for Streit and right wing help for JT now…..not the following year.

by TheMagus on Jun 27, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

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