Bits: Wheeling, Dealing and Drafting
It's here! IT'S HERE!!!11 Draft day has finally arrived and Islander country is excited! Another piece to the puzzle, tool for the toolbox and hopefully another bit of magic worked by Garth Snow and staff for us to ponder and explore for the next couple of seasons. Many feel the Isles are on the precipice of greatness; is today the day the team breaks through that barrier? We already had a bunch of inter-division good fortune from our Philadelphian nemesis that we'll recap below...but first, some draft prep work. Round one begins tonight at 7pm from the Xcel Energy Center in St. Paul Minnesota (where Dominik will be covering the event) and be aired on Versus (Ch. 146 in New York). I will be going to the draft party at the Coliseum and hope to meet up with some of you there. Let's try to make a meet up place in comments.
Here is the Islander pick order.
Here is the complete LHH mock draft.
I guess the big question is; did yesterday's moves impact today's draft logic for the Isles and around the NHL or is everyone standing pat? Interesting to note that two powerhouses like Boston (9) and Philadelphia (8) are now among the top ten in what is considered to be a deep draft.
On to the bits:
For those that missed the pre-draft fireworks yesterday, I say, congratulations on your bender. There were a bunch of signings, rumors and the two show-stopper trades made by the Philadelphia Flyers who sent captain Mike Richards to the LA Kings for prospect Brayden Schenn, Wayne Simmonds, and a 2nd round pick and Jeff Carter to the Columbus Blue Jackets for Jakub Voracek, the 8th overall pick and a 3rd rounder. As Elliote Friedeman reported, this saved the Flyers $110 million in cap space over the lifetime of the contracts which the Flyers, in turn, immediately pissed away on the Ilya Bryzgalov signing at 9 years $51 million ending when he is 40 years old. This amused Ryan Lambert (of The Two Line Pass and Puck Daddy) who noted via titter that; "the flyers now have about $7m in cap space to re-sign voracek, simmonds, carcillo, powe, nodl, leino and two D. lol good work, homer". The contract is front loaded which makes a late buyout more appealing. Carter and Richards were moved one year in advance of their NMCs/NTCs kicking in...apparently, when traded, those do not apply to the next team.
Additional moves yesterday:
The Montreal Canadiens re-signed defenseman Andrei Markov to a 3 year $17.25 million deal after two years of surgery.
Robyn Regehr was asked to waive his NMC (or NTC, something) to be traded to the Buffalo Sabres...pending.
The San Jose Sharks re-signed Devin Setoguchi for 3yrs. $9 million.
Ryan Smyth continues to be in the rumor mill and a trade is expected to be either back to the Edmonton Oilers or to the Calgary Flames as he would like to be closer to his family.
Chris Versteeg had a false trade rumor yesterday (to Florida by ESPN's Steve Levy), so we'll see if anything comes of that
The bitter, stunning end of Richards, Carter in Philadelphia - Puck Daddy - NHL Blog - Yahoo! Sports
Comprehensive National Hockey League news, scores, standings, fantasy games, rumors, and more
How, and why, the Los Angeles Kings acquired Mike Richards - Puck Daddy - NHL Blog - Yahoo! Sports
Flyers notes: Pronger gets C?; Cap & draft updates
With the departure of former captain Mike Richards, sources say Chris Pronger will now wear the Flyers' "C." By Tim Panaccio
NHL News:
NHL Super Schedule breaks down 2011-12 travel miles by team - On the Forecheck Fantastic work by Dirk Hoag to get this together already. The Isles have seven less back to back games next year (13 down from 20) and are the 3rd least traveled team behind only the NJ Devils and the Toronto Maple Leafs. That alone may give us a 6-8 point boost in the standings!
Hockey Prospectus mock draft (1-10)
The Hockey News: THN.com Top 10: THN.com Top 10: Draft day steals
Not only do NHL superstars come out of the first round of the draft, they can also be found in the much later stages.
NHL maps out major changes | Hockey | Sports | Ottawa Sun
The NHL could be ready to make drastic changes with a major realignment for the 2012-13 season.
Isles News:
The Official Web Site - New York Islanders - Vote 'Yes' on 8/1 for the new arena
Vote 'Yes' on August 1, 2011 on the referendum to build a new arena for the New York Islanders on the site of the existing Nassau Coliseum
Daily News Reporter Nick Hirshon Commemorates Coliseum History in Book | June
And a fantastic three part interview with the great #22 Mike Bossy by CBS NY Jeff Capellini @greenlanternjet on twitter).
Islanders Legend Mike Bossy Reflects On His Storied Career In Exclusive Interview With WFAN.com " CBS New York
Mike Bossy's career was the stuff of make-believe, because when you are done assessing his statistics, trophies and all other accolades in between, one very important factor is sometimes lost in the shuffle. He was forced to leave the game he dominated at the age of 30.
WFAN Exclusive With NY Islanders Legend Mike Bossy, Part 2: Trading In A Sweater For A Necktie " CBS New York
After leaving the game at the conclusion of the ’86-’87 season, Islanders legend Mike Bossy began a strange journey that featured him trying a little bit of everything.
WFAN Exclusive With New York Islanders Legend Mike Bossy, Part 3: The Young And The Restless " CBS New York
Mike Bossy was cautious when asked about what he thinks Garth Snow’s game plan will be. He took a wait-and-see approach, but also emphasized that it takes two to tango when it comes to acquiring talent.
Updates:
Info on the Isles Blue Vs. White scrimmage and skills competition with picks and prospects.
Islanders TV for prospect profiles
Anyone who still needs to get draft party passes can find the info here. I got mine last night, so they should still be available.
Happy drafting everybody! In Garth we trust! As it turns out, my work day was just cancelled, so I will be around updating things as they happen.
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Anyone know if there's supposed to be an online feed?
Like, say, NHL.com using the TSN feed like they do for the trade deadline?
I wanna say yes
But I’m not sure. Seems like they push Versus coverage, but there has to be some kind of live bit on nhl.com, no?
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What a day...
I feel like I got on a plane and the nhl blew up in mid-flight! PHI moving all that $$ and drama just to give half to Bryz?!
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by Dominik on Jun 24, 2011 10:17 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
What are they going to do with Bobrovsky now?
He’s going to be stuck behind that monstrous (one might evne say, Dipietroesque) contract for the next nine years. He may be looking for a new home.
There's a mountain of buoyant nostalgia under this team and it's going to erupt like Vesuvius when the Islanders are back in playoff contention.... Count on it.
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jun 24, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
My guess
Is bring him along a bit slower now. He obviously hit a wall due to never playing that many games in a season.
Start off with a 50/30 split, and slowly have Bob play more games, until the 5th or 6th year of Ilya’s contract.
But this is the Flyers, they’ll probably trade him.
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But this is the Flyers,
Which means they’ll bench Bryzgalov the first time he gives up two goals in a period. Bobrovsky will play well and their annual “Goalie Controversy” will begin anew.
"It's too bad he lives in the city. He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent Paul Kraus during Palffy's contract holdout in 1998.
by PGI on Jun 24, 2011 10:26 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Sorry
Meant that the be a reply to WebBard’s comment.
"It's too bad he lives in the city. He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent Paul Kraus during Palffy's contract holdout in 1998.
Goddamnit!
"It's too bad he lives in the city. He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent Paul Kraus during Palffy's contract holdout in 1998.
Man, oh man
My heart skips a beat whenever I read a mock draft that has Larsson falling to us, and with Hoobie’s rapid climb into the top 5, recently more and more experts are predicting this. And I’m loving every minute of it hahahahaha
Updating News:
No offer for Jagr, Talbot spurns pens 3 yr deal, may walk, Dupuis still up in the air.
Winnipeg expected to announce team name before pick.
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Coryey Pronman of Hockey Prospectus top 100 prospects
http://www.hockeyprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=955
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 24, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
some of these rankings are way off central scouting, whoa
by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 24, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
This guy is a pretty big stathead. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t he the guy who does the correlational stats of KHL→NHL, AHL→NHL etc? He has some kind of formula that will tell how a prospect or player from another league will put up points in the NHL…and from what I understand, it’s pretty accurate.
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 24, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Awww
No more cheap headshots from the Pens? Geeeee
by sayvillelax94 on Jun 24, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Judging by how he turtles, I would say uncircumcised.
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by Hockey1919 on Jun 24, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Concern with Weight's Dual Role
The Assistant Coach is often the players confidante and buffer to the coach, but if he is also reporting to the GM it just strikes me as strange. Like having a mole in the locker room. I have no reason to question Weight’s intergrity at all, but having a chain of command where you report directly to your boss and also directly to his boss is odd in any organization. This may be very clear internally, but since the Islanders never clearly define roles in the media it seems a bit odd.
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I see it
As two separate positions. When he’s the assistant coach he’ll be dealing with Isles players, when he’s working as assistant to the GM he’ll be dealing with External players and helping to improve the leaguewide view of the Islanders.
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Except when he need to evalaute an internal player versus an external player Garth may be targeting.
I can see two distinct positions, I just find it hard to reconcile. You build upa bias one way or the other.
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Somewhat expected. With how the pens pay Crosby/Malkin/Staal and their top d-men, they really can't afford to spend a lot on other wingers/forwards.
They probably offered talbot something below his worth to stay, I wouldn’t for that. And I’d be very happy if he’s out of the division.
Psych assessments
I LOVE that the Isles use some sort of psychological assessment battery on potential draft picks. It excites me that they’re protecting themselves from the talented but crazy picks out there!
For as bad of a rep that psych assessments get, for high stakes employment like professional sports, understanding an individual’s personality profile, and their potential derailers is critical for the health of the organization and the team. I think the Isles suffered for a number of years from bad seeds in the locker room, and I’m sure Snow saw that first hand. Talent doesn’t equate to playoff success….teamwork plus hard work plus talent equals success. Just ask the Rangers how individual talent works out. Better to screen out the crazy before it kills the locker room.
beat me to it.
Its like the crazy hot chick. She’s crazy, but she’s HOT.
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I doubt it
I think the only people taking it are the people that visit prior to the draft. You can’t account for all of the movement in the first 3 rounds of the draft to have that many guys in to take the test…you’d go broke on airline tix. Maybe after the fact he took it, but why bother at that point?
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 24, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Some teams just have kids take these tests on-line.
If not identical then at least in some form.
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If you're assuming the ANSWERS themselves matter
I don’t. I assume that they are looking at reactions, reaction time, their reasoning and how the questions are answered more than the answer itself. I could be wrong, but I’m a big believer in all of those processes. Can there really be a correct answer in “Poem vs Gun”? Isn’t the context different for the kid from the hunting section of Canada like Jordin Tootoo vs the collegiate genius like Hamilton? The importance of each of the answers is night and day. I’d actually be disappointed if Tootoo said poem because I’d know he’d be lying.
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 24, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
True. I'm just saying that many teams do it on-line.
Once you weed out the guys that are a FAIL, you bring in the guys you need to better evaluate.
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True
I guess they can do that testing throughout the year to gauge…I hadn’t considered that…just figured they did it in the last month or so before the draft…just seems creepy to give a 17 yo kid a psych test online…regular kids would need to have their parents consent for stuff like that!
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 24, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Not like consenting to have your 16 year old marry a 51 year old,
but parents let their kids take the SAT and that can be worse than a psych test.
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I think they give these kids a short version at the combine
’cause i saw Landeskog respond the “gun vs poem” when a reporter asked what was the craziest question you were asked in interviews. He answered poem by the way.
This IS the year.
what about a poem ABOUT guns?
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Hey
You’ve got your peanut butter in my chocolate!
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 24, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like a Cannon for a shot! Does that count as a gun?
Can’t believe Hamilton chose poem.
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haha.. total dealbreaker
"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington
What if the poem was "Go the F**K to Sleep?

Vote Yes on August 1st.
I'd still put a fOk'in bullet through the book.
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Did wwe not go through this phase once with Andrew Dice Clay and his "fairy tales?"
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Happiness
…is a warm poem.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Kabanov IS the exam.
“This is Kirill Kabanov. You must be less crazy than him to be considered for our team. Are you less crazy than Kirill?”
“….yes?”
“Great. Congrats! Welcome to the club. Kirill, EAT HIM!”
“AHHHHHHHHH!!!”
“Ouch, dude. You just screamed like a little girl, sorry bro, you failed.”
“But…but….”
“Kirill, EAT HIM!”
“Oh…phew, haha…see I didn’t scream tha- OWWW. OWW! WTF? He’s eating me! HE IS EATING ME!!!!”
…….
“Love that. NEXT!”
This isn't totally unique to the Islanders either
From what I’ve read it is a little bit longer and more in-depth, but other teams just have them do it in advance of the visit. We still have our fair share of crazy – (See Kabanov) because talent always trumps crazy.
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Hate the Flyers Deals
In the short term, the Flyers are quite a bit weaker down the middle, but they are potentially vastly improved a couple seasons down the road just when the Islanders should be peaking as well. I’d rather they choke on the bloated salaries until Richards and Carter are untradeable.
Now it looks like the Kings and Blue Jackets will be two of the teams looking for relief in buying out contracts under the next CBA. Is it me of did Richards fit better in Columbus as a set-up man for Nash and Carter better in LA as a shooter? In other words, the team that gave up the assets for Carter, got the lesser of the two players.
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Isles Draft Table
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nyislanders/5866196585/
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Post pick media area
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nyislanders/5866757944/
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 24, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Interview and photo rooms
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nyislanders/5866776332/
Media Area:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nyislanders/5866776332/
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 24, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Si.com
Did anyone catch SI.com’s Mock 1st Round picks? They had Strome (a center) going to the Isles at #5. Not to say that this won’t happen or anything, but their rationale was kind of weak and shows no knowledge of the organization or its players;
“The Islanders need help at center, so the 6-foot, 185-pounder would be a nice fit some day, perhaps on a line with John Tavares.”
(a) Center is one of the positions we actually have some depth with JT, JB, and FN.
(b) JT is a center. So they are implying that either he or Strome would convert to wing. Which contradicts the phrase “the Islanders need help at center”.
Why am I even surprised anymore at such sloppy Isles coverage?
by SchneiderDiricov on Jun 24, 2011 10:44 AM EDT reply actions
I saw that too
I don’t even go to SI anymore. They barely ever cover hockey and when they do, especially with teams like the Islanders, they’re always wrong.
by sayvillelax94 on Jun 24, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Problem is
Frans Nielsen is the most underrated player in the league, and then you see that Bailey spent time in the AHL this year. Plus you ignore all the prospects at C in the system already (Nelson, Cizikas, DiBenedetto, Ullstrom, etc) or that we gave up on a Center this season (Schremp) and there ya go, SI logic.
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Or more specifically,
that we gave up on RSH because of how crowded the organization is at center…
by SchneiderDiricov on Jun 24, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Botta is doing a lot of Strome tire pumping right?
I hear you on not knowing our system, but I think sometimes these guys just look at another guys paper.
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 24, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
The only reason to take a center is because they feel he is the best player available.
LA just traded their best prospect in Bradon Schenn for Richards. So regardless of organizational depth they could take the best player available and move the other parts as necessary. Depth can be used asa position of strength to deal from or in the case of too many goaltenders, not get you equal value in return. This is why I have NO idea who the Islanders are going to take.
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I think that's the best approach in general
Most of these kids won’t really be impact players for a couple of years. So if you pass on a better player because you need defense, or a left wing or something, you’re assuming your needs in 3 years will be the same as today. Ultimately, if you draft the best overall available that you can, you can always turn him into what you need down the road as your needs change.
by SchneiderDiricov on Jun 24, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I think first two rounds are best available after that building up depth
Once you start to get into the third round it is such a crap shoot anyway that you can start to look for depth in areas.
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I blame Pierre McGuire
wasn’t he the one stumping about moving Taveres to the wing on Point Blank a few weeks ago? If he wasn’t, I’ll still blame him anyway.
"It's too bad he lives in the city. He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent Paul Kraus during Palffy's contract holdout in 1998.
Multiple Choice questions
A. Blame Milbury
B. Blame McGuire
C. All of the Above.
You just can’t go wrong on any question with choices like these.
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i think it was craig button who first suggested moving JT to wing and drafting Strome
by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 24, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
This exam is getting easier
E. Blame Button
I actually like Craig Button, I just think he is always wrong. He’s living off of the Iginla pick forever.
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G. Yourselves
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 24, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks. Got my talking heads mixed up
I knew it was somebody, and it wasn’t Gord Miller who’s advice was “Fire the owner.”
Also, don’t forget: F. Blame the fans
"It's too bad he lives in the city. He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent Paul Kraus during Palffy's contract holdout in 1998.
Acceptable Write-in - Gary Bettman
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Acceptable Write-in - Gary Bettman
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Crap, missed that!
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 24, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Has anyone ever thought of the idea of...
turning strome into a winger? he’s got speed and can maneuver.
"son of a bitch i'm sick of these dolphins"
- Steve Zissou
I had just read this and thought to myself....
this cant be right. Either they are misinformed about the Isles or I am…We will find out…..
I pray its not me
D
D
D
D
D
or trade down
NY POST TODAY
Both MacDonald and Hamonic had breakout years this past season, but neither is especially physical
Hamonic Not Physical?
Really? I thought he was
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Clearly
you were mistaken, the NY Post says so.
by SchneiderDiricov on Jun 24, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Hamonic
Does anyone know if Justin Hamonic (Tri-City Americans) born in 1994 is related to Travis? I can’t find any mention if they are, but they are both from Manitoba.
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do they have same home town? that might give it away
by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 24, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes
Unfortunately they are both listed as being from Winnipeg
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800,000 ppl in winnipeg
does sound like a strong possibility…
by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 24, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
While you are looking could you see if he is related to Matt Moulson and Jonathan Quick?
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I don't think so
This article says Travis is the youngest of his siblings.
by afrosupreme on Jun 24, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Also
that father trip the Isles do must be tough for him.
by afrosupreme on Jun 24, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
The game I went to in Philly
Was the game that they celebrate all the dads. So after the game they had all the dads come onto the ice and take pictures with their sons, and this was the infamous Nielsen cheapshot game, so the whole time I was just yelling at Carcillo that he was a bum.
"I bet Calgary wishes they had a backup goalie as their GM" - Pauly C
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Thanks
"I bet Calgary wishes they had a backup goalie as their GM" - Pauly C
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
I actually wrote the author
You wrote:
“Both MacDonald and Hamonic had breakout years this past season, but neither is especially physical”
Just curious, did you watch any Islander games last year? Hamonic is extremely physical and not only throws his body around, but also has no problem with dropping the gloves.
How many misconducts did he collect?
6? 8?
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Yeah but probably 70% of those were misconducts just for being an Islander
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by Fabtraption on Jun 24, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The kid wasn't even getting top 4 minutes until January
… and I think he was among league leaders on defense with hits … top 20? I’m not sure … I just remember seeing a stat that showed him up there.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Jun 24, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The kid wasn't even getting top 4 minutes until January
… and I think he was among league leaders on defense with hits … top 20? I’m not sure … I just remember seeing a stat that showed him up there.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Jun 24, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Since 99/00 36 goalies aged 30+ have had 35+ Win seasons. Of them, 18 were 32 years old or younger.
Since 99/00 41 goalies aged 20-29 have had 35+ Wins. All but 11 were 26 or Older. Most goalies peak between 26 + 32 and Ilya is 31
Obviously Wins is a bit of a stretch to use as a stat, but I figured 35 was a good cutoff considering that’s how many Ilya got last season and Bob had 28
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interesting
that Hockey Prospectus ranking is
Landeskog may be available to us if this is right
am thinking it’s going to be Couturier
and that we draft one of the better available Goaltenders in the seond round as well along with a decent D prospect
Does Garth make some trades today?
Overall, I think we keep the #5 pick, but I would really like to see Garth pick a forward at that position then make a trade and move back up into the 11-18 range to select a defenseman.
Does he deal with Sather?
Rumors are Sather is willing to move 15 to get additional second round picks. They gave up most of their picks for McCabe and Erixon so they pick 15 and 103 or something like that.
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I see Garth
Once again trading one pick for two picks next year.
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Larrson
If he falls to us, ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh baby.
With the new balls our players picked up after the Pens game and if hes NHL ready like i heard, this could be a very good season.
Constantly building for the future.
btw I love the NHL.com Headlines...
Wings GM Holland says the 24th pick overall in draft won’t make an instant impact
With statements like those, you two can be considered a Hockey Genius!
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I think @grabs40 will be at draft party...not sure of who else
Kevin Poulin
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Will be at the draft party tonight
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He can be at any party he wants to… all at the same time. #grabsisfast
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I would love to be there.
Alas, part of the penalty of moving off the Island – stuck here in Williamsburg, VA – and watching on VS.
by Katzenhammer on Jun 24, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
did anyone see this @biznasty2point0 tweet about Clutterbuck?
Priceless!
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 24, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
He didn't last long
Clutterbuck is off Twitter already, he’s the other tweet:
BizNasty2point0 Paul Bissonnette
@
Hey @roadtourclutter, thank god your not a healthy scratch. Those hotdogs in the press box wouldnt stand a chance with u up there butterball
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I really don't think we will see movement on the 5th overall.
I don’t see a move up and there really is no good fit for a movedown. Maybe they trade down one spot with Ottawa if Couturier is on the board at 5 (they seem to want him) and upgrade the 50th to 48th or something (assuming Garth wants Dougie). Maybe he packages the 2 2nds for a move up but with the depth in this draft it would likely only be if there was someone he really likes. I could kinda see the 50th and 62nd being sent somewhere to move back in to the 30’s. I think the only chance for a major shakeup is if someone dangles a roster player or close prospect that Garth likes.
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Yeah
I think you have to keep that 34 unless someone in the top 10 slips to the teens or 20s. 50 and 62 I agree with.
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 24, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
This year is eerily similar to last year. I think the Isles go Fwd
I don’t see the Isles taking a Dman. Most do but like last year when Gormley and Fowler were there and they took Nino, I think with anyone but Larsson still there, they go forward again.
Couturier, until about half way thru this year, was the consensus number 1. Now he could fall to 5 pretty easily. If he falls and the Isles still hold him in high regard, they’ll take him. But if they feel his drop was warranted, or he gets taken, I think they go Zibenijad and I’ll be the happiest.
Not one mock has them taking him, but they didn’t have them taking Nino last year either.
Strome I could live with, I would trust Garth.
Isles last 3 years have a habit of going forward first pick, defense in the 2nd pick (in ‘09 that was 12th overall). I think there’s some high end talented forwards that the Isles will not pass up.
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Adam Larsson
says he is prepared to play in the NHL next year if the club who drafts him want him to come over to play 2011/12.
Source: http://hockeysverige.se/article/11969516/jag-tycker-att-jag-ar-redo (google translate might help here lol)
As some of you say, this is like Christmas day for me.
Nice, I saw that yesterday
Has an out clause in his SEL contract.
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 24, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
For those wondering when the voter registration cutoff will be; apparently, not yet
Carey H/Alex T
VoteYESNYIArena Carey H/Alex T
Anyone going to the Islanders draft party later? There will be voter registration for the 8/1/11 vote for the new… http://fb.me/wmGNKOUF
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You can physically go to Mineola too if you miss the mail in cut off
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Notes
The draft will not be streamed on the team site.
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@NYIslanders Is the draft channel live streaming the event?
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@keithlhhockey No, it will not
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I’m told chances aren’t good Max Talbot re-signs in Pittsburgh. UFA market should give him plenty of options.
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Wait, on the draft video the team site says this
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@keithlhhockey We will post the link when we have it, and it will be directly on the homepage at newyorkislanders.com. #isles
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 24, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The price of turtles is on the rise
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What do you think it costs to get Regher
That deal isn’t done, and it sounds like there are some other players involved:
Kent_Wilson Kent Wilson
RT @fan960boomer: Regehr update: hearing another team is kicking tires, bringing the total to as many as six teams inc Sabres interested.
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Do you take a stab at him? What’s he worth?
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if healthy, hell yeah but...
Without looking it up, Regher seems to be injuried a lot.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 24, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Brewer's off the table
Gord Miller
GMillerTSN Gord Miller
Eric Brewer signs a four year extension with Tampa for just under $16m.
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Yeah things are going to be thin by 7/1
I hear Vancouver is close on re-signing Bieksa too. It’s gonna be all depth players left besides Richards.
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Leaving for NVM in 30 minutes
Making the pilgrimage to the mecca of dynastic hockey. NVMC.
One thing I hate about attending the draft parties … is the information black hole about what else is going on around the league as far as trades. I didn’t even find out about Garth getting the 12th pick in 2009 until I looked up on the score board and saw de Haan in an Islander jersey.
I’m still leaning Hamilton so that our future top four looks like this … A-Mac – Hamonic … de Haan – Hamilton … and leaves us with some quality depth to fight out the other 3 roster spots on D. Mean while … we still get to enjoy the now future with Streit.
I’ll still be happy with Strome, Courturier or Huberduberdoo … and estatic if somehow Larsson or Landeskog fell to us.
Play nice everyone … catch up with ya’s late tonight or tomorrow.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Jun 24, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions
D vs O
I’m thinking we should take the best offensive weapon on the board. We have some really good young defensive players ready to come in and take on expanded roles. Couple that with some savy FA Defense pickups after July 1 to give these guys some leadership and I think we are better off. That is the problem with the Islanders now, we need some old crusty vets to teach these guys how to win. I’m a bit pissed they are letting Zenon hang, he had some great locker room intangibles that will have to be replaced. We need more balance in experience on the squad, do you really think Cappy can teach them that?
by Katzenhammer on Jun 24, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
For those attending the draft party
I will try to live tweet some news and photos (@keithlhhockey). Where are people going to be?
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Excellent, Keith
I follow you on twitter already (love the updates). I’ll be there with my brother and cousin. Getting there around 5:30 ish.
Proud to root for the Jets, Mets, and Islanders!!!
by CharlieIsles on Jun 24, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a DUMB PHONE not a smart phone
So unless people say somewhere they are gonna be OR write to me via email so I can send my digits and we cantext, then I will not be saying hi to any of you because I wont know who the F you are when I see you lol.
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by TheMetalChick on Jun 24, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
"This had nothing to do with the financial (part) at all," Holmgren said. "What we did today was make two good hockey trades."
but would you have made either trade WITHOUT the financials?
I’m kind of thinking that you might do the Columbus trade if you think Voracek was underused and can replace Carter’s production… maybe. The LA trade is just kind of odd.
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by Turgeon1992 on Jun 24, 2011 1:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
When does the actual picking begin?
I know the formal start time is 7 PM but when do they actually get down to the business of picking?
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Jun 24, 2011 1:04 PM EDT reply actions
The Great 8 or G-8 Draft...my monies on it unfolding like this:
1 – RNH
2 – Landeskog
3 – Huberdoobeedoo
4 – Larrson
5 – Strome
6 – Courturier
7 – Mika Z
8 Hamilton
by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 24, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Damn fine predictions, not too far off.
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No doubt
Well done CIL. You’re in charge next year.
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I say TAKE ANOTHER GOALIE with the 5th PICK!
Ok don’t anyone shoot me just kidding!
We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!
i agree
your drafting for the system for two years down the road – we didn’t draft a goalie last here…sweden’s Magnus Hellberg may be around in 5th, 6’4 187 pounds. norwary’s steffen soberg 5’11 may be around in the 5th too
by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 24, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Ryan Kennedy of THN
I hadn’t thought Snow had been particularly public about anything, but from this blurb Kennedy’s implying that we’ve been ‘very public’ about trading down. I would’ve thought Snow would be more aggressive in trying to use the 5 to find that missing piece…
• Ottawa has a lot of love for the top of the board, but unfortunately picks sixth, meaning their favorite may not be around anymore. The Senators would like to trade up, while the Islanders (who pick fifth overall) have been very public about trading down.
Its such an amazing game
the whole thing, so much speculation, brewing over top players and nobody has any idea how it will unfold. I mean really, besides a consensus number, nobody has any clue.
Yeah - I really have no clue what they're gonna do...
I’ve heard Hamilton (a lot), Couterier, Strome’s name is heating up. Now I’m hearing they’ll trade down.
I REALLY think w/ the number of swaps going on, Snow’s going to look to leverage that pick into a lower pick and a player…especially if Larsson is available (which I don’t believe will happen).
No trade until the time to pick
I have to think the Islanders hold the number 5 pick until they are ready to select. If who they want is available they make the pick, if the player they targeted is gone they move back if they think their secondary target will still be available later in the first. I don’t see them moving up because that would require giving up assets and the Islanders are still in the acquire as many as possible mode.
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In reading about the Isles this year
I’m getting the feeling more and more that with the return of Streit and having KO for an entire season, there is a growing sentiment that next year’s team can be something special…but that they’re short one or two glue players who are still in their productive years. That being the case, I could very well see them using the 5 as leverage in a deal.
If not, then I hope that Larsson falls (which he won’t)…
Totally my opinion
But I’m thinking Garth hopes Huberdeau or Landeskog are around. They seem like players he would want. If not then he either takes Hamilton or moves down a couple spots and hopes he’s still there or takes Mika Z.
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I would love to get Landeskog.
Having just read about 10 mock drafts the consensus is Strome or Hamilton, which based on past experience means there is no way Garth takes either one. I’ve seen Bealieu and Huberdeau as well, but there is no consensus on the top four picks so no way to accurately judge who goes at five. In each of the mock drafts the Islanders draft Strome or Hamilton and somehow pass up on someone that is a top three pick in another mock draft.
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I don't know how far they would actually move down
I was trying to figure out before who could be a good partner and there really is none. Philly doesn’t have their later 1st round pick anymore so there really isn’t anything worthy there to swap CBJ’s pick. I don’t see anything happening with Winnepeg. Boston doesn’t have their 30th pick any more so it’s not like trading down can help us much there. And after 9 there is a drop off in talent. I mentioned it before but the only one I could see is Ottawa where we would give them 5th & 50th and they give back 6th & 48th if Couturier is still on the board and that’s not much of a trade at all.
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Good point.
There seems to be a top four block, a next four block and then 9 thru 30 is anybodiess guess. Hard to say who exactly is even in the first two groups of four. So trading down would only be possible if another team targets a specific player and you’re happy with any one of four or five players.
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Who does Ottawa have?
That Snow might be interested in (other than the obvious!) – A 2 for 2 draft pick swap does us no good, moving up 2 in the second gains us less than we lose by moving down one…
I might take a slipping
Jared Cowen or Runblad, but that doesn’t make too much sense for them.
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Not that Runblad is slipping
I would definitely take him though.
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But maybe the 2nd rounder...
for our 3rd rounder? Or something similar.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jun 24, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
That's always possible too
I had mentioned earlier moving the 50th and 62nd to get back in to the 30’s. Maybe we can get the 35th as part of the deal.
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really seems like Ottawa would be the ones
but it’s only one spot. To get anything out of them you’d have to convince them someone else is looking to jump in and you’re seriously considering it.
Really if Larsson or Couturier slip, (that probably means Huber and Landy are off the board) then I think one of those two gets picked. If they go back a spot or two, I think it means they’re looking at Strome or Mika.
I really believe Larsson is the only D they take at 5, otherwise it’s a fwd.
On a side note: I hope next year we’re picking in the 20s. I love this draft stuff, but I’m ready for some playoff games.
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I'm going to the draft party tonight!!!
It’s a great time to be an Islander fan. Enjoy the draft everybody….I’m personally hoping for Strome, Coutriueu, or Larsson.
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If the Isles are not impressed with any of the forwards available in the top five
I’s expect them to move down and compile. If they are going D they are definitly going to move down if the guy they want is lower on the board. Their biggest need is a crease clearing mean son of a bitch.
If they go with a forward I think they have to move one these guys projected in their top six to bulk up their blue line. Won’t be getting equal value back their. Always a chance that if you drop back and grab that top notch crease cleared one of the forwards in the later rounds with the picks you’ve compiled can blossom into a top six guy.
I think the team's ...
most glaring needs are a big, tough crease-clearing defenseman and a pure playmaking-passing forward. I don’t know these kids well enough to know who best fits those needs, but if the GM gets guys who addresses them, either by the pick or some trade maneuvering, he’ll have done a good job.
The latest update from the mock draft acrual at dcprospectsreport
41 mocks listed with 65% listing Hamilton for us.
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Nice site, bad math
100% for RNH, but the math doesn’t add up. Interesting to see that Huberdeau is solid top 3 (53% without checking their math on thsi one) , but in many of the drafts he is left on the board by the Islanders in favor of Hamilton. Would the Islanders really pass up Huberdeau for Hamilton?
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I doubt they would leave Huberdeau
Some of those are solid sources some are questionable but it does give a good overall zeitgeist.
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Looks like Smyth is real close to heading to CGY
TSNBobMcKenzie: Smyth deal is there to be done for draft pick(s) only, but CGY ownership currently debating whether it wants to take the plunge
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I dont see Garth trading down
He likely could’ve gotten Nino later than 5 last year, but he doesn’t seem like one to gamble on someone being there (ahem, Bailey at 12).
I’m guessing Courturier is our man. Supposed to be good on the faceoffs. Can see him taking Konopka’s 4th line C position next season and filling the faceoff void.
Cizikas could win that role out of camp
He was voted best on face-offs and best defensive forward in the OHL coaches poll (along with smartest player).
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Don't see a rookie playing your faceoff specialist/defensive zone forward role.
There is a lot to learn and a lot of linesmen’s respect you need to earn if you are going to get a fair puck drop in the NHL. He’ll be eaten up by veterans that are allowed a lot more leeway at the dot.
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Why is everyone now infatuated with the Islanders taking Ryan Strome?
His jump in points scares me, and can he really play wing?
Or even moving Tavares to wing?
I’m just not really comfortable with that..
by edavidmorris on Jun 24, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
The infatuation starts with IPB and Button.
No one else covers the Islanders so they decide that if the “insider” says Strome, then Strome must be the pick. Not a knock on IPB, but the lemmings that seem to just follow. I’m not even sure Strome is a bad pick, but find it strange so many mock drafts come to the same conclusion. Although I think Hamilton is still the consensus despite the Islanders penchant for selecting forwards early.
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Dear NJD
Please find it in your heart to take Dougie Hamilton with the 4th overall pick.
Your NYR-hating ally,
NYI
P.S. We drafted Robert Nilsson for you!
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jun 24, 2011 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Ottawa GM Brian Murray was on TSN
said they tried to move 6th overall pick up but not possible, made it sound like top 5 picks are not going to be traded. Murray indicated Ottawa was now going to focus on trying to move up their other first rounder. Brian Burke of the Leafs also indicated the price to move into top 5 is too expensive.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 24, 2011 3:11 PM EDT reply actions
NJ and NYI
…don’t yet know who is available at #4 and #5. Those two picks may become less expensive for Ottawa/Toronto. But I don’t see Isles or Devs trading down to #25 with Toronto.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jun 24, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
there is a rumour that ottawa may give isles a little something to pass on courturier if courturier is around at 5, which i think he will be…ottawa is also rumoured to want Strome…
by CanadianIsleslifer on Jun 24, 2011 3:21 PM EDT reply actions
Serious question, Do you think we should move Frans to wing in the future?
He’s not a good faceoff man, isn’t a high-end playmaker, but is a great all around guy. I think he’d fit a winger spot better(while being a great help on D too as a winger since he can help out with centers if need be). Say with someone “creative” feeding him pucks he may even pot 20goals in the future and help create scoring opportunities. Just an option I’ve been pondering.
From what I've seen
…he’s anything but a goal scorer. Not a knock on him. He could score 20 goals, but he does everything else really well. (Aside from faceoffs.) He’s good at being the 3rd man in Isles D end of ice. If he can be the 3rd man and play the wing, maybe it would work. He’s great at getting the puck from the D zone to the O zone. That is his offensive gift.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jun 24, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I know what you're saying, but think of it like this:
PAP, far from a goalscorer, potted 20goals on a line with creative JT centering him, and goalscoring(but not close to creating) Moulson. If PAP could do it with those linemates, I think Nielsen could pot 20goals/50pts playing along side a creative center and an okposo or grabner(okposo definitely, with KO’s passing skills and a creative center he should pot 20). And just think of the caliber of a shutdown line you could create doing that. Think, as an example: Nielsen/Bergeron/Okposo, that could be the top checking line in the nhl easily. I took grabs from them, because he can create for himself mostly and should be able to score 30goals with top shorthanded minutes and 3rd line even strength minutes(~17min/gm).
"isn’t a high-end playmaker" >:(
BLASPHEMER!
I don’t think he should be on wing. He’s good in middle of the ice, especially defensively, moving him to the wing would thus decrease the circumference of Area 51, and I think that’s the wrong move.
by Les Beaver on Jun 24, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Faceoffs are an issue
But I think you waste Nielsen’s speed and decision-making by putting him on the wing. Also make him more susceptible to dicks taking runs at him along the boards.
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Don't mess with the Zo-Frans
Tread carefully my friend!
I know this is posted somewhere but I couldn't find it.
Are the LHH people meeting somewhere at the NVMC for the draft?
same here- hello, anyone? :) Im leaving work in 20 mins so this is my last chance lol
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Jun 24, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know what the layout is going to be like (for the draft, but familiar with the Coli)
but pick a place and I’ll find it
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Keith, I loved the photo caption, btw
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LOL!!! excellent
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by TheMetalChick on Jun 24, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Love me some creepy Sesame Street
thanks!
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If they're your fancy
One might even fall to the Isles even without trading up.
Some really bizarre rumors going around (as expected, I guess).
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Not to deprive anyone of good fun
But I haven’t heard anything I honestly feel good about even mentioning — mostly rumors of offers from different teams to move up or down. Walking around here, you just hear a lot of conversations among different levels of execs/support/access people. It’s like a high school hallway.
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Just want to know if there is any truth behind Hamilton measuring 6'7" at the combine
because if there is he would become third on my big board.
Nope.
It was an oddly timed error that was up on NHL.com for about a day, and got a whole lot of people dreaming.
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Just fanshotted it,
but figured everyone’s in here today. Looks like it will be the Winnipeg Jets after all.
Here’s the link:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/the-winnipeg-jets-are-back/article2074490/
Surprised Bettman still has a job after this latest move
This really has become embarassing for this league. Can’t count how many teams have moved during Bettman’s tenure and how many others have threatened to move. Bad for the game and bad for the league.
If I was Bettman I would hire someone else to hand off the Stanley Cup.
Word here is they're still going to give the draft pick a generic jersey/hat
That just seems like a missed opportunity. Even a not-yet-finalized look would be better than that.
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Jets and Coyotes in the same league?
That’s unpossible!
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by PGI on Jun 24, 2011 5:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well...
Maybe they should give him one that says Potvin if it’s a d-man, Trottier if its a center or Bossy if its a winger. I’d say Smitty if its a Goalie, but if its a goalie I think I’ll hack up a furball…
OPEN THREAD for tonight
Feel free to continue the discussion her as always, but there is a new open thread to handle the bulk of tonight’s anticipation/discussion/general anxiety and cursing:
http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2011/6/24/2242537/2011-nhl-draft-islanders-open-thread
http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2011/6/24/2242537/2011-nhl-draft-islanders-open-thread
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Keith, what's your twitter name?
I’m here, where are we meeting?
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He's @KeithLHHockey
@KeithLHHockey
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

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