Bits: Onward and Upward
After the closing of the 2011-2012 season, things should start happening all over the place for the Islanders. Things we have to look forward to include; potential buyouts, our own free agent signings, the draft, (trades prior to or during the draft), the acquisition of other free agent help, the schadenfreude of watching cap strapped teams fall apart, the arena vote, training camp and I'm sure a few surprises along the way. On the schadenfreude note, we have this Larry Brooks/NY Post nugget on the Rangers inability to buy out Chris Drury because of a chronic knee injury...bwahahaha...ahem. That's my favorite. Anyaway, this can be the year that our hope and faith is rewarded and so far, Garth Snow has made the Islanders post-season memorable. May the magic continue.
In the wake of the Vancouver riots, much coverage of the actual hockey slipped to the wayside. Here is video of Bruins homer Jack Edwards reveling in the Bruins cup win. The CBC put together a playoff montage (which was linked yesterday as well) that by all accounts was outstanding. More links and Islander news after the jump.
Cup Coverage and Post Game Stuff:
Thomas with Conn Smythe, Mom with Beer
Roberto Luongo: ‘We’re devastated … but we’ll be back’ | ProHockeyTalk
While many Canucks fans will want to get rid of him, Roberto Luongo seems positive about the team's chances of getting back to the Stanley Cup finals.
Boston Bruins Parade To Be Held Saturday As City Celebrates 2011 Stanley Cup - SBNation.com
Thank You, Boston, For Ending this Season the Right Way - Behind The Net
A vignette to the Boston Bruins' Cup victory, and the extraordinary season of Tim Thomas.
Contrarian Corner: Don't Blame Luongo | FlamesNation
Bruins won't be dismantled by the cap - The Globe and Mail
Smartly built Stanley Cup champs can return essentially their full roster next season
Isles News:
Let There Be Light(house): "The Coliseum Tax"
Hub advisory panel puts off first meeting
Now The Real Work Begins (Part 1) [The Prospect Park]
Islanders plan for draft - NYPOST.com
Not that this says...well, anything. But, it's weird that the Post got a Snow interview right? Maybe Newsday is on vacation???
Islanders prospects answer questions from Facebook and Twitter - New York Islanders - News
Check out what Calvin de Haan, Mikko Koskinen, Tony Romano, Aaron Ness and Matt Donovan had to say to the fans.
Around NHL and Junior News:
Vote for NHL goal of the year on facebook.
Mohr returns to Las Vegas to host 2011 NHL Awards - 2011 NHL Awards
Quebec Lobbying commissioner probes Quebec City arena dealNew Assistant Coach: Adam Deadmarsh - Mile High Hockey
Uni Watch readers redesign Atlanta Thrashers gear for Winnipeg move - ESPN
Ultimate Team Rankings - All Sports - SportsNation - ESPN
The Ultimate Team Rankings as voted by the fans on SportsNation.com. Find out where your favorite teams ranked. In some categories, the Isles stack up pretty well! In others, not so much.
A Look at Shot Quality - Behind The Net
News, analysis and opinion from the fan perspective.WHL: Sweeping changes to reduce brain injuries - Buzzing The Net - Junior Hockey Blog - Yahoo! Sports
Quebec Lobbying commissioner probes Quebec City arena deal
QMJHL: Au revoir, Juniors — Boisbriand lands a team - Buzzing The Net - Junior Hockey Blog - Yahoo! Sports
Kabanov moving again?!?!?!
I may get a fanpost together later for more on the riots and the aftermath and follow-up as I find it a fascinating topic but would like to leave any debate out of the main threads. We have a review post for later on in the afternoon that looks at Lighthouse Hockey's preseason predictions and how we fared and as we receive them, we will continue to post the mock draft posts. Have a great day everyone, and remember, today the Rangers got stuck with a 7+ million dollar cap hit...Amen.
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Drury
Um…how is the Rangers getting $7.5M in cap space for free a good a thing?? Brooks doesn’t know what he’s talking about. The Rags will either:
a) convince Drury to retire (just like they did with Naslund) and get $7.5M in space instead of the $3.5M from the buyout
or
b) spend $69M, above the cap, based on the LTI exception. Brooks said “I don’t see how the Rags could spend that much”…Um, I can!!! Richards, one of the Canucks Dman, big raise to Dubinsky, etc.
In short; the Rags GAINED more cap space and can now spend $69M when the rest of the league and how their little puppet writer (Brooks) spin it as a bad thing.
On b)
The LTIR thing doesn’t kick in until September.
Drury + Redden are chewing up the summer cap overage and then some. They can’t sign Richards and the RFAs w/ Drury’s full hit around all summer. (well, they can, but it requires a lot of cap manipulation, like signing guys to small 1-year deals and extending them in January)
a) is ideal. b) is a PITA.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 17, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you think "A" has a shot in hell
I mean, to kick over 7 mil and Drury being the competitor he is? I would expect that if he is even remotely physically capable, that he will still want to play and will be bought out…but this screws up the timing of all the free agent moves. Sorry to revel in that, but well, we’re poor over here.
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 17, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I expect nothing but reveling here, not a big deal.
I think A has a slightly better than 50% of happening. Yes, he’d be coughing up the last year of his deal, but there are ways to make that up to him (have him take off a year, then sign him as a coach , an assistant, a pizza concessioner, whatever)
There are dominoes to fall here, be Drury retiring, Wolski now under the guillotine, Avery demoted, or someone traded. They’ll make the cap room, Darth Sather always has something up his sleeve.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 17, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
He is amazing like that
It’s unreal…he has no fear of making shitty deals because he can always unload shitty deals…I want him to come over and consult on a couple of things…
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 17, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Dead Ranger Society
I like the fact that Darth Sather has to get rid of all of these terrible contracts he orchestrated.
- Redden
- Drury
- Avery
I hope they sign Richards to a fifteen year contract.
I was sorry to see them land Erixon but happy they lost two draft picks. It will help limit their inventory of young players for the future and force them to overspend on the UFA/RFA market.
Avery doesnt belong on that list
They didnt orchestrate that, Dallas did.
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by TheMetalChick on Jun 17, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it possible to create a big Sather list of bad contracts?
Just off the top of my head, we could add Gomez, Rozsival, and Gaborik’s(because that contract is near impossible to live up to).
Those definitely belong on the list
So did Boogaard.
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by TheMetalChick on Jun 17, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
And Kotalik, and Brasher…..and that’s just the last couple of years. There isn’t enough bandwidth on SBN to list them all.
Just like they got Gordie Clark and Co. to take over the drafting (which has since improved), they need someone else to be responsible for FAs. Then Sather can just trade all day long, which is where he excels.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 17, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, this is gonna be an interesting summer for you guys.
If the Rangers “don’t” go after anyone but Richards in free agency and resign “most” of their guys to fair contracts and don’t resign mccabe, it looks like you guys “should” only have $5-$6mil/yr to offer him. That could be a problem. But who knows. Maybe Sather wants to buyout wolski or avery now with this new problem, or he could have to make some trades(trade).
Nah, we should have more than that with the cap increase, at least based on numbers being thrown around for our RFAs. They can’t do much else beyond RIchards, however.
What’s the Isles plan this year? I don’t follow closely enough. I assume Streit’s back which will be a monster help, are there plans to start adding in some FAs, or is it another year of strictly youth development while the current kids come in to their own?
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by George E. Ays on Jun 17, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure
The Isles would love to add a high end FA defenseman, but can’t get anyone to take our money.
NOWHERE Nearly enough defensemen to last through the injury bug
Tavares, Grabner, Okposo, Nielsen + whoever you get this year should be enough of a draw to start getting some people back. It’s still NY after all.
Getting the arena thing solved would also help.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 17, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
agreed here
And in truth, with a lot of these players having breakouts or taking steps forward this past year, I am of the (currently minority) opinion that the Island is going to be a more desirable place to come play now.
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I assume Streit’s back which will be a monster help, are there plans to start adding in some FAs, or is it another year of strictly youth development while the current kids come in to their own?
Absolutely regarding Streit. And I think the youth movement will continue on for the most part.
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by TheMetalChick on Jun 17, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Fans seem to want everyone else's FA help
But the problem is looking at who’s out there,there isn’t really much in the way of obvious upgrade vs price. (Especially when you factor in potential and development of the youth). Lots of people talking about the ever unquatifiable “veteran leadership” thing also. I personally don’t see the Isles doing too much. Especially when you consider that all the returning injured 10 guys.
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 17, 2011 6:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
This may be true
In all actuality, it may be a better thing than having his buyout contribute to the cap hit, so you may be right. The interesting thing about this case is the crapshoot I expect in the case of DiPietro. I want to see how it plays out now. Bottom line is that if he is physically capable of playing (albeit very poorly), the Rangers are on the hook. While the condition is degenerative, he may have some left in the tank. He is not risking immediate long-term disability, he is risking probably some pain and a speeding up of the process.
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 17, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I have always believed that the next CBA will get the Isles out of the DP contract one away or another. (Anmeisty buyout, reducing all the megacontracts, etc…)
I couldn’t see Naslund retiring either (and he had better numbers than Drury) but he did anyway. Of course, they signed Redden with that money.
Successful Cup watching in a DVR world
Just wanted to say the plan for my cabin trip to watch Game 7 on a 24-hour delay with 11 buddies who all kept themselves oblivious of the outcome was a success. The late party brought the DVR up without knowing what had happened. Only one guy even knew what had happened through two periods, and miraculously he didn’t toy with us.
Of course my brother passed out after the second intermission so I’ve spent all morning telling him the Canucks came back to win and Luongo was named Conn Smythe winner.
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by Dominik on Jun 17, 2011 11:30 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Well played!
and welcome back! A horrendous amount of news happened…beware the link clipper.
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 17, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Still up in the woods - but online anyway
Sifting through riot footage; ye gods.
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Like I said, I may make a consolidation post of that stuff later
It is being billed as the worst sports riot in history. (or at least North American sports history) The footage is endless if you look, in every video, there is at least 100 people taping it. I’ve now seen the same thing from 3 different angles. It’s crazy.
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 17, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
the Rocket Richard riots were pretty bad
I think what’s happening here is that everyone is so wired now, everyone’s using their phones to capture full-HD vid clips and load them to YouTube within two minutes of what happened. Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised if there was live streaming web footage of this stuff as it was happening. A lot of the yobbos uh, hosers seem to be photographing THEMSELVES proudly. If even 10% of them are arrested with their own pics used as evidence, it will be welcome.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Jun 17, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, there definitely was
The links I posted in the game thread (they were from news stations) had them going till like 3am our time at least (that’s when I passed out and why the post wasn’t done till 9am)
I think you’re right too. If it’s not someone trying to get famous and be a big shot being a menace, it’s someone trying to look cool as being some kind of embedded reporter in a riot.
What bothers me most about it from a psychological perspective, is that many/most of the participants don’t appear angry and just about NOBODY looks scared. There are young women there (girls even really) that have smiles on their faces. There are people sitting and standing around like they’re having a picnic lunch watching an outdoor lawn band.
In my day, girls would have thought the boys were being stupid and left. It would have taken a great deal of anger and booze to do what the guys were doing. There would have been some level of trying to potect your identity and violence against the people with cameras. This looks like they think rioting is their birthright, that there will be no consequences of significance and their stake to a place in the big picture.
What should be done (since most if these people were probably under 24) is throw all if their parents in jail. (Because if the real estate price thing is accurate as we know on LI, most probably still live at home). And or hold each of the peeps parents responsible for some predetermined price of cleanup and restitution that will be levied against them via their taxes. Each of the idiots should have to perform hundreds of hours of community service in public works programs designed to enhance the community, not clean it or maintain it. Then destroy it right in front of them.
Perhaps that will give them a connection to the human respect associated with living amongst others in a community and some value of others property and ideologies.
Because, I shut you not, if I was out doing that, and got home hours late, smelling like tear gas, covered in soot and blood, my parents would have grilled me and beaten me senseless…seeeenssse-less.
I actually destroyed a car once with some friends that we thought was abandoned when I was 15. Turns out, it wasn’t, it just sat there for years, in a parking lot, untouched. We got ratted out, and I was grounded for months. Had to apologize, etc, but the big part was, I felt guilt, and shame, and KNEW afterward, that whether or not it was avandoned, it was STILL wrong because of my parents.
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 17, 2011 1:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Jesus
I really should have made that a fanpost. Sorry!
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 17, 2011 1:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Kids these days!
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
it's a hell of a story
Leave it here. It works. And that is striking, isn’t it – the idea that riots are just part of the good clean fun of being young. Sickening.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Jun 17, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Let's keep in mind that
this Youtube video/cell phone camera attitude with no thought of long term consequences is the same mindset that has 15 year old girls sexting naked pictures of themselves to the 16 year old “loves of their lives”, with no realization of what happens when you break up with the immature little bastard in 3 months.
I can’t wait to see the criminal trials of these morons when their own Facebook pages are used in court against them.
There's a mountain of buoyant nostalgia under this team and it's going to erupt like Vesuvius when the Islanders are back in playoff contention.... Count on it.
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jun 17, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you just made me smile
It was a big deal on the Innerwebs a few months ago, an older teenager making a big deal about being all Thug Life to his buddies online… until his dad found out and – ON CAMERA – whupped him and made him confess to everyone that he was only posing as a tough guy. “Now post THAT $#!^ on your Facebook,” he says at the end.
I think I would die laughing if a judge sentenced the perpetrators to THAT, in addition to the standard community service and fines. Hell, the community service ought to be livecast over the web. You wanna be on YouTube, binky? Here you go.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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There's a guy who started a project like that
I’ll link it tomorrow. He calls himself captain Vancouver, and he is trying to make sure that this follows the rioters around forever. Pretty funny too.
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 17, 2011 11:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I remember that car
and I didn’t get busted. and Ididn’t get busted. and I didn’t get busted. and I didn’t get busted.
Neener, Neener, neener.
(But I also don’t recall if I did anything)
But I probably did get busted for many a other shit that I probably had nothing to do with.
by Chickendirt on Jun 18, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm no snitch!
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by Keith Quinn on Jun 18, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
History will be made - NY Post style
Last year, they selected electric winger Nino Niederreiter, who spent the season in juniors. The year before that they traded down twice, eventually picking Josh Bailey with the ninth overall pick.
Really?
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Jun 17, 2011 11:33 AM EDT reply actions
The people over at the Post are obviously Tavares-deniers. It didnt happen.
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by TheMetalChick on Jun 17, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
Although hat should have read: History will be made up
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Jun 17, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
YES, there ARE no words!!!!

We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Jun 17, 2011 12:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
NO words indeed!

We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Jun 17, 2011 12:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
nice pics
Was this before or after Long Islanders overturned and torched a half-dozen K-Cars at the local Crazy Eddie’s?
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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K-Cars for the win
And repair.
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The torching of the K-cars were a mercy killings.
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by Russel Ginart on Jun 17, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Child World in Levittown
Was never the same after the ’83 finals.
by PGI on Jun 17, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Sadly enough..............
I was 20YO when Potvin raised the first cup, and living in Jersey never made it to any of the parades. A decision that will haunt me for the rest of my life. How bad was I? My cousin who is a die hard Yankees fan and lives in FLA flew up to see the parade in NYC in the late 90’s. And yet I, living a short 2 hours or less did not see any of the Islanders parades. WHEN, (noticed I wrote when and not if) the next Islanders cup is raised, I will be there at the parade, come hell or high water!
We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!
As will I
There's a mountain of buoyant nostalgia under this team and it's going to erupt like Vesuvius when the Islanders are back in playoff contention.... Count on it.
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jun 17, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
amen
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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I was 21 years old
when Potvan raised our first Stanley Cup. I live in Western Suffolk County and have been lucky enough to have seen every Cup Clinching game at the Coliseum. The best for me was walking into the Coliseum for game 6 against the Flyers. The place was nuts, I got there for pre- game warmups and the building was packedl chanting We Want The Cup. Its the best game I ever saw live, but I never went to any of the parades. I went to 9 games last year and am looking forward to a really exciting year. This team is on the way.
i wasn't even alive
when potvin or any islander for that matter raised the cup. i plan on going to the draft party so i can hopefully meet some of the current players…for me being 19, its hard to deal with the fact that some players on my favorite sports team are my …el nino…i cant wait to see this group of young guys raise the cup in a few years, because it will happen
wake me up when the isles start to play
by DarthDoyle on Jun 17, 2011 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Paul Stastny
Who is adverse to acquiring Paul Stastny? If its true that Colorado is looking to move his salary – we should be all aboard.
NYI 1st and Josh Bailey for Stastny. I see no downside.
Moulson-Tavares-Parenteau
Okposo-Stastny-Comeau
Grabner-Nielsen-Nino
Wow.
That's not gonna happen, they aren't giving up a 2X 78pts player for that. He's worth a ton more, too much in all likely hood.
sad but true
Stastny is a really good player. I would be amazed if they don’t want him right along with Duchesne anchoring their top two lines. Then again, they dumped Chris Stewart – though to be fair, he’s only hitting about .150 right now.
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