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A Note about Ice Time, Roles, Depth and John Tavares

With a different coach and a similar role, John Tavares is again scoring at the IIHF World Championship.

Regardless of how long his "expiration date" is within any locker room he helms, Ken Hitchcock is, most would agree, a superb tactical coach. That makes him a lovely choice for a short tournament.

In the IIHF World Championship, with the luxury of talent oozing out of Canada's non-playoff-participating depths, he's using John Tavares (and most of his lineup) in lower minutes than they are accustomed to on their NHL teams. In Tavares's case, it's about seven minutes less per game -- and also generally matched against the opposition's lesser lines. No surprise then, with opponents like Norway, France, Switzerland and Belarus, that Tavares is leading the team in scoring. (To be fair, he also had a goal and assist against the U.S., and he's just scored tonight in the first period of Canada's game with Sweden.)

I'm not trying to diminish JT's accomplishments here. I want him piling up IIHF points like last May, when he had 7 goals in 7 games for Canada. He's the most exciting home-grown Islander to come along in ages, and I have high hopes for him. But Hitchcock's coaching does recall how one way to extract the highest production out of your most offensively dynamic players is to position them in roles against opponents' weaker links.

Star-divide

An example: In Vancouver, the Sedins have hit a new level of gaudy point totals in recent years thanks to being used in more opportune situations (lots of O-zone draws, just like the Isles use Tavares), as well as thanks to the less heralded usage of Ryan Kesler and, this year, Manny Malhotra in the "tough assignment" roles.

Small samples are dangerous, of course, but it wouldn't surprise me if the rap the Sedins are getting for low production in these playoffs is in part due to them not getting the shelter they had all season long with Malhotra in the lineup.

Some very rare stars like Pavel Datsyuk and Sidney Crosby will get gaudy offensive numbers no matter what role you throw at them. To isolate them against weaker opponents is a waste of how well they can dominate opponents of any quality. (Ryan Getzlaf in Anaheim is traditionally used against whomever the opposition throws at him.) But the rest could use a little help from their coaches to boost their back-of-the-hockey-card numbers.

Tavares is still on the early part of the development curve at age 20 and is a relentless, disciplined student of the game. I've no doubt his all-around game will continue to grow to the limits of his physical abilities. To that end, I like how Jack Capuano has used him. With lots of offensive zone starts and powerplay minutes, Tavares and his linemates were 1-2-3 for the Islanders in scoring this season, as they should be, yet they weren't isolated from tough competition and took their lumps, too. (And frankly, their low plus/minus this year is a bit deceptive, as their all-around play was second only to the Frans Nielsen line.)

But with pundits like Craig Button still advocating the thought of moving Tavares to the wing, and me yammering on and on in this space about the importance of collecting unsung tough minutes players to build depth, I just wanted to throw this topic out there for consideration, because the discussion of production and stardom should go beyond how many points a guy collects:

There is more than one way to skin a cat*. There is more than one way to leverage Tavares' special offensive talent. Tavares will get better, and his production will increase, but it will increase even more if the forward depth gets better on the non-Tavares lines. The more quality forwards the Islanders have playing "below" Tavares, the more confident Islanders coaches will feel using those guys against better lines, thus setting a still-improving JT up to feast on weaker competition and offense-friendly situations.

*Statement not endorsed by PETA, as far as I know

Maybe one day Tavares develops into a fully rounded force who can be sent out against any opponent without concern for matchups. But even if he doesn't, that's alright. There are still ways to get him glory and points while Frans Nielsen-like players take on roles that limit their own offensive opportunities...yet combine to make a winning team.

 

P.S.: Further Isles Reading

Some other good afternoon reading/discussion fodder courtesy of Anarcurt FanShots: Whether the Flyers should bid for Evgeni Nabakov, and a discussion of THN's offseason game plan for the Isles.

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Many of us started to worry about JT when he went through growing pains last season.

Its almost as if he got his “so called” sophomore slump out of the way in his rookie season.

by KO21 on May 9, 2011 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Button not a GM anymore for a reason....

I just listened to Craig Button on IPB. Well, I don’t think it’s hard to figure out why this guy is not a GM for an NHL team anymore. Huberdeau and Strome over Larsson. Tarvares moved to the wing. Let’s not waste time talking about Tavares to the wing or what Button thinks.

If Snow can draft Larrson, Couturier or Hamilton and he takes Murphy or Strome, I’ll, well; that’s not going to happen.

by John from ATL on May 9, 2011 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought that, maybe, JT was possibly a better winger since he was supposed to be a pure goal scorer.

but hes allot more than just a goal scorer. Hes a great passer who makes other around him better. Hes definitely center material

by KO21 on May 9, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

On Button, I hear that.

I’m 100% in favor of seeing JT develop as a center. If they suddenly had better options and he excelled at the wing (think Malkin-ish maybe), I wouldn’t cry.

But the move him to the wing movement always felt really premature to me, because it was always presented in the context of moving him to wing permanently, rather than easing him into the league at wing the way many great centers have done.

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by Dominik on May 9, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dom, I must object

To this:

No surprise then, with opponents like Norway,

Hey, we just beat France to get into the quarterfinals, and the Canuks only beat us by one goal, and their two losses (US and Canada) have been by a combined 2 goals. Bash the French (Waay to easy), Swiss (What provokes a man to be Neutral?) and Belarus (Russia’s Canada) all you want, but the Norwegians have commanded some serious respect this tournament, even without arguably their best player in Zuccarello-Aasen.

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by David Hanssen on May 9, 2011 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

And Swiss just beat the USA (in a meaningless game, but still)

I am not above baiting you with Norway ribbing. (Although BenHasna did point out the two “defensemen” Tavares split were, well, not good, Judge.)

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by Dominik on May 9, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, all in good fun

Well, when you have Jonas Holos and OK Tollesfsen logging roughly 30 minutes a piece, you know you’re blueline isn’t exactly, um, good…

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by David Hanssen on May 9, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soooo,

If Belarus is Russia’s Canada. Who is Canada’s Russia. (place foot in trap here.)

NOWHERE Nearly enough defensemen to last through the injury bug

by since70too on May 9, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nanavut?

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by Keith Quinn on May 9, 2011 8:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Anyone who can spell our third territory right

Wins. It is spelled right, right?

NOWHERE Nearly enough defensemen to last through the injury bug

by since70too on May 9, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um

sure, I guess…There may be some accents I’m missing…I was going with a “Siberia” theme…that is the climate there right?

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by Keith Quinn on May 9, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, that would actually be

NUNAVUT.

When they split Nunavut off from the NWT, we tried calling the rest of it, Restuvut, but that didn’t go over very well. There was actually a pretty serious effort to call it “Bob”, but ultimately they decided to keep the name “Northwest Territories”.

There's a mountain of buoyant nostalgia under this team and it's going to erupt like Vesuvius when the Islanders are back in playoff contention.... Count on it.

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on May 10, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Beautiful

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by Dominik on May 10, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

not that good

But he split those muthas like a muthaflubbin’ CHAMPION.

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on May 9, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

*As a trapper

Who has skun a few wildcats, there really is only one right way. Just saying!

NOWHERE Nearly enough defensemen to last through the injury bug

by since70too on May 9, 2011 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Do tell!

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by Dominik on May 10, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone watching nashville,

watching Kesler run the crease, then Weber showing you how to exactly deal with someone that runs your goalie. Make him eat ice, then rag doll and push him all around the place, and lastly yell at him unimaginable threatening words as he is separated from you and put into the penalty box. Got him a roughing, but well worth it.

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by OzzyFan on May 9, 2011 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, the man's got a great attitude and tremendous skill-set. Hard not to love the guy. He'd be treated like a King if he was in a bigger market.

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by OzzyFan on May 9, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shouldve stopped em from scoring too

Damn.

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by Keith Quinn on May 9, 2011 8:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You talking about the bad pass by Suter?

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by OzzyFan on May 9, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just breaking chops

I didn’t even see it…just caught word on twitter. Sounds like this game is gonna be one of those collapse type things. Let’s hope it’s better than the whimper Philly went out with.

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by Keith Quinn on May 9, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha. Preds went out fighting at least.

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by OzzyFan on May 10, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kessler continuing to be a duesche

I find it hard not to root for Nashville when Kessler’s running the goalie like he just did

by Empire39 on May 9, 2011 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, he's no doubt a star player in this league, but his game involves some dirty stuff, which is clearly evident at times.

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by OzzyFan on May 9, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, could like the Preds

If only it snowed there.

NOWHERE Nearly enough defensemen to last through the injury bug

by since70too on May 9, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just one of my criteria

Of where Lord Stanley’s ol’ mug should spend the summer.

NOWHERE Nearly enough defensemen to last through the injury bug

by since70too on May 9, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm the other way, a hockey missionary

Every Stanley Cup won in strange environs is a victory for humanity and a step forward against the tyranny of sports played with round balls.

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by Dominik on May 10, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is that

a German Feminine Hygiene product?

There's a mountain of buoyant nostalgia under this team and it's going to erupt like Vesuvius when the Islanders are back in playoff contention.... Count on it.

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on May 10, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by OzzyFan on May 10, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

And on the topic of playoffs, that sharks/wings game yesterday,

The wings were cooking in the 3rd period. Tons of flow and chemistry, I’ve never seen so many passes hit the slot between the faceoff circles in 1 period. Wings got a real shot at winning that series if they continue that play.

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by OzzyFan on May 9, 2011 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

In the west

not sure if either team that is down is out.

NOWHERE Nearly enough defensemen to last through the injury bug

by since70too on May 9, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty great

And excellent that a team can control so much for 40 minutes, then get schooled for 20 and lose the game. Hockey, baby: All that matters is the score at the end.

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by Dominik on May 10, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Wings have something special when they click.

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by OzzyFan on May 10, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big news coming on Coliseum issue Wednesday apparently

will fanshot in a sec

"It's a good thing the Islanders spent the offseason compiling organizational depth on the blueline. Because, yes, they're losing defensemen almost as rapidly as they're losing games."

by ArsenalLI on May 9, 2011 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Crap

sorry!

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by Keith Quinn on May 9, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

fanshotted

link

"It's a good thing the Islanders spent the offseason compiling organizational depth on the blueline. Because, yes, they're losing defensemen almost as rapidly as they're losing games."

by ArsenalLI on May 9, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some FYI Stuff from BD Galloff (Usually Reliable)

BDGallof
BDGallof BDGallof
#Isles Nation – Pay attention because I hear there will be an IMPORTANT press conference this Weds that affects the Islanders #nhl
1 minute ago

BDGallof
BDGallof BDGallof
Stay tuned on HockeyIndependent.com and Twitter Weds morning as details hit wire. Affects Coliseum
3 minutes ago

I think there are some positive vibes in the air for #isles fans.
Just a feeling.
@Isleshockeyblog i believe it will be about the venue

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by Keith Quinn on May 9, 2011 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

JT is a Center

Noise about moving JT to wing has been heard since before he was drafted. The idea is based on the assumptions that 1) JT is not a good defensive forward and 2) JT is a better goal scorer than playmaker. Both of these assumptions are absolutely false. Last year there were times, especially during his long goal drought mid-season, where he looked lost in the neautral and defensive zone. I think this had more to do with fatigue than anything else. An NHL season is long and last season was condensed due to the olympics. JT was lagging and his lack of elite skating speed was exaggerated by the fatigue. This season he has been much more proactive and aware in his own zone. He is a smart player and is figuring his role beyond the scoresheet. He will always be hidnered a little by his speed but I think his speed on the ice has gotten better. That may be because he has been better rested and acclimated to the NHL work schedule as well as working on strengthening his legs. I am fairly new to Corsi numbers but what I could make from what I was seeing John numbers weren’t all that bad. He also was among the league leaders in takeaways. I’m not saying he will be competing for a selke anytime soon but for someone as young as he is I see very positive signs for his all-around game. Steve Yzerman was considered a defensive liability in his early years with Detroit but being the smart hockey player he is he worked on his defensive game and evolved into one of the best two-way forwards ever.
       Do I even need to address the assumption that JT is a better scorer than playmaker? Yes, he scored 70+ goals in juniors and yes he almost always had more goals than assists as an amateur (the one year he had more assists he was nursing a wrist injury which hurt his shot) but the NHL is very different than Juniors. Its not as easy to score. John has been extremely creative in setting up plays down low in the offensive zone and has an uncanny nack for finding open teammates. He is the best playmaker on the Islanders and is one of the best passers in the game. His numbers don’t yet reflect his elite playmaking skill but as he and his linemmates improve expect to see 50+ assists from JT year in and out.

by MatthewM11 on May 10, 2011 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I should add

That this is not meant to take away from his goal scoring ability. JT is a natural goal scorer. I just think the idea of moving him to wing to maximize his goal scoring will come at the expense of everything else he brings to the game. He is not the one dimensional player he was billed to be by scouts and writers before his rookie year. He is an extremely intellegent hockey player that will continue to get better and more responsible in his own end. He also doesn’t need an elite playmaker on his line to maximize his production. He is the type of player who creates opportunities, not just cash in on them. These dynamic, creative centers are hard to come by. I am talking about the Trottiers, LaFontaines, Turgeons and to a lesser degree Yashin. You can build a team around a creative, dynamic center.

by MatthewM11 on May 10, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

all-around game

I don’t disagree entirely, but on the other hand I’m not quite sure his all-around game has improved that much over the course of the last 12 months. Don’t get me wrong, he had a good 2nd year and was more consistent for sure, but – though I know this might sound a little strange – in my opinion his biggest improvement was his offensive game.

The following is not at all to take anything away from what he did in his rookie year, but I really felt he got rewarded pretty nicely with points for what he actually did in the offensive zone in 09-10. Okposo was an absolute beast early on last season and Moulson hit every 2nd shot and that helped JT enormously to collect all the points he did there until hitting that big slump in December. Again, don’t get me wrong, he did contribute, too, and the points he got towards the end were well-deserved, but yeah, I missed “big plays” and just based on his performance I thought he had to be happy with the point total at the end of the season.

This season he improved his EV scoring by almost 50 percent (from 29 to 43) and actually really deserved every single point in my opinion. First of all he probably had to work a little harder for the points – he faced tougher competition, didn’t have Okposo on his wing and didn’t have Streit behind him. And I thought he made clearly more “big plays” leading to goals. He was unstoppable around the net at times, really a star in the offensive zone. In my opinion he figured how to play in the offensive zone in this league and how to beat NHL goalies mainly this season and thus has made huge progress there indeed.

His all-around game certainly did improve somewhat, too, maybe more than I think, but yeah, I thought he played just about as well overall down the stretch last season after the Olympic break. It’s not dramatic, but I feel I still see the same kind of flaws in his game and the numbers don’t look very impressive, either. However, I think it’s a classic case of people attributing the main progress to the defensive side of his game because that was always his “weakness” and the offensive game arguably always there.

And the same might happen in terms of predicting where JT’s game will go the next few years. Sure, his defensive game is likely to progress and maybe he indeed has more potential to improve there than in his offensive game, but I think it’s important to remember that the offensive side is really what his natural game is. In my opinion he’ll be an absolute superstar in the offensive zone in a couple of years. But I’m unsure where his overall game is going to be by then. Improved, sure, but maybe not to the extent that he is a good defensive forward.

Generally, it’s clear I like the point Dom makes in this article quite a bit. To me it’s clear you maximize JT’s potential if you play him in the offensive zone as much as possible. Thus, he would ideally get very favourable zonestarts, maybe where possible not the toughest zonestarts and line mates who are able to drive the play. Clearly, a depth-signing like Ward would help JT as well as the team. Again, doesn’t necessarily to be made this summer, but if they really want to make the playoffs I think they’ll need JT to maximize his potential and thus need more depth to allow JT to do just that.

by BenHasna on May 10, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good posts matt and ben. Interesting breakdowns.

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by OzzyFan on May 11, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

I miffed by the thought of moving JT to wing and was maybe a little over-zealous in defending JT’s all around game but Ben really broke it down and summed it up perfectly. In the end I think he still has a lot to learn but he has shown improvement. Given the situations he is used in we really don’t need him to be Charboneau out there; just passable defensivly and if he’s not there yet he’s getting there. Moving him to wing to me is saying he will never be a good two-way player and is kind of giving up on him in that sense.

by MatthewM11 on May 11, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if you throw an above average defensive winger on his line in the future, I wouldn't even worry about his defensive issues(which should work themselves out).

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by OzzyFan on May 12, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

and its not like two way forwards are all that rare these days. 20 years ago if a guy backchecked at all he would be polishing selke trophies in no time. The game now requires a lot more defensive responsibility from its forwards. I think that these players know that its a big part of the game now and its something they work on from an early age. Really nowadays guys that are lazy with their defensive responsibilities, the Kovies, are the exception, not the rule. On a side note I don’t see JT as like that, as lazy. Its not like he’s hanging out at the blueline waiting for breakout passes. His problems in the defensive zone stem from inexperience and maybe last year fatigue factored into it. He’s willing, he just needs to learn what he needs to do. Its a lot more subtle of an art than scoring, so it will come with experience and time. Back to your point though; sorry for the ramblings, we have good defensive wingers on our team now and more coming up like Nino and JT will definitely benefit from the help a good defensive can bring.

by MatthewM11 on May 12, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

great points

Thanks for the reply, and I don’t think we are far off at all in our opinions. Maybe I was just being a little more fannish and optimistic but I really agree with everything you said. What I was saying or meant to get across was that JT gets a bad rap for his defensive game and I really don’t think its as big of an issue as its made to be. I meantioned Yzerman because I think a lot of young offensive players get tagged with that “one-sided” label to often. I don’t get a chance to watch many junior hockey games but I get the sense that it is a more wide open game without the focus on backchecking, defensive awareness etc. I think it is something a lot of young players have to learn on the fly after they make the NHL.
              JT’s strength will always be his offensive game, didn’t mean to imply that he will ever be a Guy Charboneau. His game needs to continued to be maximized by getting favorable offensive matchups. That’s a good point about JT’s rookie year. I remember about a year ago I mentioned being impressed by JT’s rookie numbers despite some of the critism he took. You made a good point then that given the favorable matchups in the offensive zone JT recieved his numbers are less impressive and he really had to score as many points as did; anything less would be very bad production given his use. You can’t look at offensive production without taking those things into consideration. Its why Seguin only had 22 points as a rook yet Skinner had 63. Ice-time, offensive zone starts, what line/role you’re used for etc. make all the difference.
         We all saw something very different in Tavares this year and it is beyond what you can quantify with stats. Confidence on the puck and better positioning without it seemed to improve greatly. His skating seemed a little smoother and he showed a little more flash than he did last year. I think his defensive game will continue to slowly improve. It is one of the things you can teach and there are dozens of examples of players who struggled defensivly early in their careers. JT will always get matchups to maximize his O game and its his offensive that sets him apart and will make him a star. I do think though that he will continue to improve his all-around game.

by MatthewM11 on May 11, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.

1981-82


May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.

A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.

1982-83


May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.

Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.


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