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Best in Class: The New York Islanders Dynasty

In the interests of a ration of ducats for the humble blogger, I was asked to discuss a team in history that "exhibited exceptional class."

There's an obvious answer here, so I tried to think of obscure ones -- this year's Islanders, who stood up for themselves when officials and the special rulebook for last-place teams would not, came to mind. But frankly there has been no classier NHL team in my lifetime than the dynastic Islanders and the "core of four" who participated in all four Islanders Stanley Cup wins and a record 19 consecutive playoff series wins from 1980-84.

Why so classy, my brother? Let me count the ways.

Star-divide

First, let's consider context. While in terms of talent there is simply no comparison between the 2010-11 and dynasty era Islanders, they are similar in one significant way: Bigger, badder teams abused them and took liberties until the growing Isles fought back by practicing the NHL's ever-present but taboo darker arts. (It's funny how winning teams rough you up and act like it's just part of being a champ, yet when the tables are turned they react like it's a crime against humanity.)

Just as teams like the Flyers and Penguins routinely had their physical and "hey, that's hockey" way with the Isles in recent years, the up-and-coming Islanders of the late '70s faced repeated bullying from the established and notoriously bloody Flyers and Bruins.

Yet as older fans will tell you, bit by bit the Islanders fought back -- Clark Gillies going multiple rounds with Terry O'Reilly being a notable example -- carving out their own space and enabling the talent assembled by Bill Torrey and Al Arbour to shine.

[Video] Dynasty Islanders discuss turning the corner

The prime players? There were many.

 

The Generals

Bill Torrey: The "Architect," Torrey knew the secret to rebuilds before rebuilds were cool. Rather than burn his expansion draft picks on marginal NHL players the way so many expansion teams did for the Montreal Canadiens, Torrey held on tight, with patience. The Canadiens tried to get the Denis Potvin pick (1st overall, 1973) out of his hands, the way they got the Guy Lafleur pick out of Oakland's hands a few years before. Torrey wouldn't budge.

Al Arbour: "Radar" -- a nickname that followed the bespectacled Arbour since his playing days -- was that rare coach who is both feared and beloved by his players. With veterans and rookies, he struck the right balance. He handled the tricky but rewarding task of shepherding along young thoroughbreds like Potvin well enough and long enough so that he was still around to see the fruits of his labor.

Arbour's St. Louis coach and mentor Scotty Bowman warned him when he was offered the Islanders job: "You take that job, you'll be losing for 10 years." Instead, 10 years later he was winning his fourth Cup while Bowman came up short in Buffalo. The era in which Arbour coached is of a kind we'll never see again. But every conversation of the greatest coaches in NHL history includes Arbour.

Jimmy D: So Torrey set the philosophy and selected Arbour as his field general. But who would help them acquire some of the best talent of all time? A big chunk of credit goes to Jimmy Develano and his scouting staff, who kept the pipeline well supplied. Jimmy D took stories and lessons from the Isles when he left to run his own gig in Detroit, where the Red Wings have done okay since his arrival.

[Video] Arbour interview on HNIC

 

The Officers

You know how this list goes, but any time it's put together it still awes:

Bryan Trottier: Driven, talented, possessing great hands and vision, and -- perhaps as important -- two-way acumen at a time when few realized how important that was.

Mike Bossy: A pure sniper, Bossy took the league by storm like no other sniper ever has. He scored 50+ goals in each of his first nine seasons (averaging 59.4 per year), then in season 10 when a career-ending back injury limited him to 63 games and "just" 38 goals, that was a wrap. He came, he saw, he scored. A lot.

Denis Potvin: Smooth skater, devastating hitter, incisive passer, good shooter, he outscored Bobby Orr. So, pretty good then?

Billy Smith: Let's see, they had franchise players at center, wing and D, what's left? "Clutch" is in the eye of the beholder, but there was something about Battlin' Billy come playoff time. Goaltending is hard to separate from the tea in front of him, but Smith's stats adjusted for that era stand up well to history. So do all those rings.

Clark Gillies: The first captain before Potvin, the man who had both talent and the courage and strength to tell O'Reilly to go get your shinebox, Gillies defined the power forward positions, which is why he's in the Hall of Fame. When stat-oriented second-guessers of the future re-evaluate HOF selections the way they do to old baseball selections, Gillies will be a target and that sequence will betray why sometimes -- no, really -- you had to be there.

Those are the Hall of Famers...

 

The Infantry

Bob Nystrom: The only non-HOF Islander with his number in the rafters, he is Mr. Islander for how long he was there, how well he did, the big goals he scored, and the aggressors he took on, wild blond mane flowing every which way. Plus, that voice is like the Barry White of hockey.

Butch Goring: The "final piece," the man whom every trade deadline retrospective now conjures, the guy with the funny helmet and the legendary wardrobe.

Ken Morrow: Underrated and softer spoken in the shadow of Potvin, Morrow's defensive positioning, smart use of size, and ability to fight through multiple knee injuries made him an essential part of the Dynasty. As with several of the above, he still plays a role in the organization today -- a key one on the hockey ops side.

John Tonelli: Scrappy and relentless, there would be no dynasty if not for Tonelli's heroics in the tying and winning goals in the winner-take-all Game 5 vs. the Penguins in 1982. After he moved on, I was always sorry to see him fall just short of further Cups as a veteran with the Flames and Kings.

Bob Bourne: The speedster who scored 15 shorthanded goals between 1980 and 1984. The Austrian Gremlin has a different game from Bourne's but still...when Michael Grabner goes on a rush you see things.

Lorne Henning, Anders Kallur (today's Islanders European scout), Gord Lane, Dave Langevin, Wayne Merrick, Stefan Persson, Duane Sutter -- these guys round out the celebrated "core of the four" who played on all four Cup teams, and of course there were many more who had big parts in some of those Cups.

*  *  *

If you're a younger fan, it probably gets old hearing old-timers wax nostalgic about these guys -- and certainly the organization around the turn of the millennium were guilty of going to this nostalgia well too often. But at least you can understand why they are dear to fans' hearts.

I was just a tyke for those days; it took years of reading and looking back to fully understand what my dad had me watching. No team has won as many as three consecutive Cups since, and no team will ever match those 19 consecutive playoff series wins. If the sponsor's topic of choice is "class" and "brotherhood," from the GM's office to the fourth line, I can think of no better example.

[Video] Great Islanders Goals: 1972-88

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Me too

I jumble it and it comes out “Stay classy, my friends.” Not sure if that’s a good thing. For all I know, they may be under the same uber-spirit corporate umbrella.

Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.

by Dominik on May 6, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

On that note, we've got a greybeard on our hockey team

He’s quite the character, filled with stories, and likes his spirits. We just call him “the most interesting man in the world.” Of course, he drinks Captain…all your bases are belong to ads.

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by Dominik on May 6, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's an awesome nickname.

I should also like to add I thoroughly enjoy this article and the video.

by Les Beaver on May 6, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very interesting..

When my best friend rambles I always give him the, “I don’t always listen to bullshit, but when I do…” and he’s got a bit of the captain in him… but then again… so do I.

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by JPinVA on May 6, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

For some reason it makes me think of...

Golf in the Kingdom…. which is coming to the big(?) screen this year… I think.

Rec’d cause I want to vote for that being the new tagline for LHH… I don’t always vote on taglines, but when I do…

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by JPinVA on May 6, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

very nice

Dom, good stuff ,well said. Bam Bam, loved that guy.

by 7:11_OT on May 6, 2011 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I watched the Coliseum rise ...

from the ground up and pretty much grew up there watching the team grow up too. You’ll get no argument from me when it comes to showering the “dynastic Islanders” with praise or superlatives. Simply, that group was one of the best teams in any sport in any era. They are still the last “major 4” team to win four titles in a row. 19 straight playoff series wins is one of the 2 or 3 greatest accomplishments ever in team sports, and maybe THE most overlooked.
But. This business that the Islanders were somehow total pushovers on the ice that let themselves get shoved all over the place is simply not correct. The expansion roster was a basically a gang, comprised of castoffs, drifters and houligans like Brian ‘Spinner’ Spencer, who couldn’t play much but at least upheld the roughhouse edge then so prevalent – even required – throughout the league. There’s a reason #31 was “Battlin Billy”, and Gerry Hart was also a tough guy who was there from the outset. When the team started to blossom in the third year, Nystrom, Howatt and Gillies had all arrived. Not exactly a bunch of lilydippers. I’m not sure where this myth came from, of the doormat Islanders getting taken advantage of by the bullies of the league until a light went off and Gillies stood up to O’Reilly in 1980. True, that Boston series forged a bond that woke up the rest of the league to the Islanders as a true force. But #9 and #23 had already been beating guys up for years by that time. This false portrait of the supposedly soft and wimpy Islanders back then doesn’t do justice to a lot of guys on those early teams. I just wanted to finally get that off my chest.

by dose on May 6, 2011 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for unburdening your chest

Sorry, this wasn’t intended to feed a myth of expansion-era wimpitude — really I know very little about the expansion days.

Rather that the stories I’ve heard of the late ‘70s were that B’s and Flyers men got away with things, the way established/"champion"’/veteran teams tend to do, and it took some time and some big pushbacks to earn respect and equal opportunity. (And to clarify, I don’t think the Isles of recent seasons were “wimps” either. I think hockey invites a very blurry line between turning away from undisciplined stuff to accept your powerplay and realizing you’re not getting powerplays so you might as well fight savagery with savagery).

Thanks for bringing this contention up though! Any time we do posts on this era, I hope it’s an invitation for those who saw it all to engage in a history discussion.

Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.

by Dominik on May 6, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent

And this:

This is how I feel about boxing eras that preceed my own… but I digress.
Yeah, no kidding.

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by Dominik on May 6, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just wish...

…that more guys on my soccer team spoke english…. I might have had more interest over the past 30 years.

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by JPinVA on May 6, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every once in a while ...

I watch those 3 battles on ‘You Tube’ Also on there is a bench emptying donnybrook with the Flyers at the Coliseum a few years prior to that. It started when those Philly bastards took liberties with Bossy. Nystrom et al went nuts. Amazing stuff. And amazing to be able to hit a few keys and watch it all at will.

by dose on May 6, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

YouTube is awesome for that stuff...

…and I have most of those items saved in my “favorites” for those hours when others may chose to pore over stats… There is one in particular (I’m pretty sure v Philthadelphia) where Howatt gets cut in a satellite incident… and he goes completely RABID. He even FETCHES his stick to Simonize somebody, but cooler heads (Westfall and Chico) get him to the dressing room without a police escort. The other classic is Gillies giving Hospodar Islander Face… with Espo doing the color… When the replay shows that boxcar challenged Jethro the general thought was, “oh boy, that wasn’t smart”
Being a fan back then was just the best… and to think that years of terrible owners/politics were almost toxic enough to end it all… BASTARDS!!!!

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by JPinVA on May 6, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

JP I've got one for you

It was vs. the Flyers, I think Dave Shultz took liberties with (can’t remember who) Bossy? Anyway, Gillies pounces on Shultz near the blue line boards. Gillies is totally kicking the living daylights out of soon to be dead Dave, but from out of nowhere Moose Dupont, jumps on Gillies’ back to save Dave from a certain death. Dupont gets tossed for being the third man in, and Dave never intimidated anyone on the Islanders again. Man I’d love to find this one on YouTube!

We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on May 6, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

No YT access here...

but I believe that one is in th earchives as well. I spend way too much time on YouTube. I missed a lot of games on TV back then because we lived in Brooklyn…. so some I actually saw some of that stuff for the first time when it was put up on youtube. I never missed a game on radio, though. It’s unfortunate that the pre-1980 stuff is usually not the best quality. it looks like some folks have primitive VHS or Betamax copies and then they record their televisions with a digital camera while playing them back… luckily we have a very resourceful fan base.
I do envy those who had season tix back then, or even cable.

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by JPinVA on May 6, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isles Pens

Can anybody find the McEwen goal that made it 3-2 before Tonelli tied it up? Remember him skating while pirouetting in celebration. Also would love to see them warming up Melanson, as crafty Radar took advantage of the timeout that allowed for that

by 7:11_OT on May 7, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

gillies crushing ...

boxcar hospodar’s face is almost disturbing.
almost.

by dose on May 6, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stefan(boy was he under-rated)

The thing that I remember most about Persson was his uncanny knack for keeping the puck in at the point. I always looked forward to opponents trying to clear the puck out his side. It didn’t matter if the puck was low on the ice along the wall or high in the air he seemed to always be in position to keep the play alive.

by Isle Of Weight on May 6, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

A different era, for sure...

But Persson put up some very good numbers for a guy who was a tremendous “safety net” when Denis was over-aggressive. He wasn’t a “banger” but I can’t remember an Islander defenseman that used his size and geometry better. It was almost impossible to skate by Stefan… but today… INTERFERENCE!
This may be premature, but I can see Wishart developing into that type of top four defender. He makes a good first pass, doesn’t “bang”, but he can skate well eough to defend against the leagues elite.

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by JPinVA on May 6, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Good call. Persson WAS great at that. Later on they had a guy named Ken Leiter who also was good at keeping the puck in, but not like Persson. And man, he was an excellent overall d-man.

by dose on May 6, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Persson

Held the record for assists by a rookie D man for a few years. He was sliick

by 7:11_OT on May 7, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool.

I wasn’t pointing at you or anyone in particular for perpetuating that myth. It’s just that I’ve been reading it for years already and it’s always bothered me because it’s not what I remember. I think it may have to do with various goons and bums around the league trying to abuse Bossy, who they knew wasn’t likely to retaliate in kind. But even then, it didn’t take long for Gillies and Nystrom and Howatt to look after him and knock some heads together. The knew right away how vital he was.
Anyway, the gist of your piece is right on and it’s always a treat to read anything about all those great names, particularly when the team isn’t playing.

by dose on May 6, 2011 12:33 PM EDT reply actions  

You know sometimes I do these just to get you guys talking about that era ;)

Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.

by Dominik on May 6, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Records are made to be broken

BUT NOT THIS ONE: 19 straight playoff series victories!! No other professional sports team will equal or better this EVER. THAT speaks volumes of that Dynasty team!

We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on May 6, 2011 12:39 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The current active streak is at 2...

you got a long way to go bitches!

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by JPinVA on May 6, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's really amazing

19…19! You need a once-in-a-generation era and you need the right bounces (Tonelli picks up Carlyle’s oops) at the right time. I figure the Islanders paid their dues with 78 and 79, so they were due every bit along the way during the Dynasty.

Of course, the fact they never played a Game 7 during that run, and that their stars played two Canada Cups in the middle of all the winning…yikes. They earned every good bounce and probably many more.

Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.

by Dominik on May 6, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I looked it up

Do you know the longest series win streak since the Isles Dynasty closed up shop?

NINE.

Edmonton, for all their skill and success, topped out at nine… though at least in their case, one of their defensemen scored the series-winning goal (poor Steve Smith). Their next crack at it, they won eight, and then were dumped in the opening round in ’89 via the Kings, who happened to get two goals and a helper from Wayne Gretzky.

After them, the Penguins took their shot, and we know how that all ended.

And in 1999, Detroit got to the second round after their two straight cups, but the Avs took them down.

So, yeah, 19 consecutive series wins? EPIC.

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by mikb on May 6, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

After them, the Penguins took their shot, and we know how that all ended.

/snickers

Wow, those figures are amazing.

Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.

by Dominik on May 6, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 1979 team

I believe THAT team won the President’s Trophy (although that trophy was not created yet) for the most points in the regular season. That team was just as good as the four cup winning team. And as you say bounces did not go their way. John Davidson stole that series for the Rags. Etched in my mind till the day I die is the image of Dennis Potvin near the boards on his knees with his head down in disbelief, that they had just lost that series.(anyone remember that?) I can’t decide which loss, devastated me the most, THAT one in 1979 vs. Rags, or Lanny McDonald’s OT goal.

We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on May 6, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

1979

Yep, 1st overall by a point, over the Hockey Club from Montreal.

Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.

by Dominik on May 6, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

1st overall by a point

I hit this link and its AMAZING to see all the categories of stats, there is at least ONE Islander in most of them. In some cases two or three!

We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on May 6, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lanny v JD

Lanny caused a swift and deep depression…. it took a few months to get over that one…. But the loss to the Rangers was devastating. It took a full 12 months to get over (which isn’t like 56 or so years for some fans) Though that image is etched in my mind as well, the image of a VICTORIOUS POTVIN (and the rest, especially Nystrom and Gillies) skating around with the cup is filed in front of ’79… and 1980 is in COLOR!

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by JPinVA on May 6, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isles PP in that Rangers series

was terrible, think Bossy got the first one in the deciding game. Devastation.

by 7:11_OT on May 7, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

and yet the greatest team effort of 19 straight series victories isn't even mentioned by the NHL

ARE YOU LISTENING MR BETTMAN.
WE ARE HISTORY.
The Greatest HOCKEY TEAM EVER!!!
Montreal won five cups in a row, but only won ten series (and they had first choice of all Canadian players for years).

In loving memory;Dad thanks for making us Islanders fans, ACC 1918-2011

by bossy2219 on May 6, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with that.

What’s the hockey equivilent of ‘hot stove’ ? I’m watching some of the playoffs, but probably not as much as you guys. I’m the same with the Yankees and Football Giants. When they’re out, I don’t care to watch other teams that much. There have been a bunch of Super Bowls I skipped entirely. I’d rather ‘talk’ about about the Islanders, Yankees and Jints than watch all those other teams. (except of course when the Rangers, Red Sox or Cowboys are losing. That I love to watch.)

by dose on May 6, 2011 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Smith was clutch

Never lost a playoff game that lost a series. That’s pretty clutch!

by martylnd on May 6, 2011 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

i guess being born in the 90s had its drawbacks

i never got to see the dynasty team, only hear about them from my dad who was probably a somewhat bigger islander fan than i am. I never got to see the bossy’s, nystroms, potvins or gillies, but now i get to watch this amazing core of players grow into the stanley cup team that we know we have. It has been far too long that the isles haven’t won a playoff series victory, coming up on 18 years.

This team has the potential to be one of the most dangerous teams in the nhl. snow has done an amazing job with the draft and made this team one that may not be able to repeat the amazing 19 straight playoff series victories, but one that can most definitely win a cup for years to come

SHOOT THE DAMN PUCK!!!

by DarthDoyle on May 6, 2011 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Chivas Brotherhood and Dynasty Islanders

I wasn’t able to have either….I guess being born in the 90’s has it’s drawbacks.

I’m just going to be making up slogans for the majority of the rest of the weekend, so bear with me. I’m gonna see if I can land some highfalutin advertising gig.

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by Keith Quinn on May 6, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gord Lane, Dave Langevin, Wayne Merrick, and Ken Morrow

These four guys epitomized what the team was all about. They had the super stars, and these guys just did their job extremely well. Lane and Langevin, were some of the toughest guys clearing the front of their net, and were physical guys that would punish attackers. Morrow was a steady stay-at-home D-man that rarely was caught out of position. It is no wonder why Billy Smith became so good with these three guys AND Potvin in front of him.
Merrick, was my unsung favorite, to say that he was a jack of all traits would be an injustice. He fore-checked, back checked, penalty killed, matched against top forwards, his contributions can never be overlooked or underestimated.

We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on May 6, 2011 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

One small correction

I know you’re specifically referring to the Dynasty Islanders, but the first captain of the franchise was Ed Westfall.

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by mikb on May 6, 2011 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Wow, thanks

I had no idea whose comment you were referring to — then I searched and found it. Didn’t even realize I’d typed that misinfo!

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by Dominik on May 6, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

anytime

If I ever get a personalized jersey, I really think it’ll be Westfall’s #18. I can look to my left and there, tacked on the wall, is Eddie with the C on his sweater, shaking hands with the Pengos after the ’75 series win.

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by mikb on May 6, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was great fun

to be an Islander fan back then…….

"If the bell needs to be answered, we've got the guys to answer it." "If they want to start something, that's fine."- Trevor Gillies

by JW1970 on May 6, 2011 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Eddie Westfall

Eddie was the reason I became an Islanders fan. I eventually followed him over from Boston.When I was a kid growing up there was no New York Islanders.

by Isle Of Weight on May 6, 2011 4:43 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Sec. 218 Row G Seat 14

That was my dad’s seat during this amazing run. His best friends set right around him for all the Cups and I’m an Isles fan because of him. He’s battling cancer right now, but I wanted to share a photo that he took in ’81.

by Jones79 on May 6, 2011 5:23 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Wow, excellent shot!

And thoughts and best wishes for your dad.

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by Dominik on May 6, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the great pic and the best of luck to your dad.

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by JPinVA on May 7, 2011 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

That picture is just fantastic. Best wishes for your dad, mine is a cancer survivor, hope he can say the same thing.

Eclectic fan? You don't know the half of it.

by raiden2332 on May 8, 2011 5:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hope your dad gets better.

Proud Islanders fan, the organization that iced the greatest team to ever play the game, whom won 4 consecutive cups. I'm bleeding Blue and Orange.
Let's go Islanders! Beep...Beep...Beep.Beep.Beep.
Datsyuk IS the best player in the nhl

by OzzyFan on May 8, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

P.S.

I find myself clicking on this picture once a day.

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by Dominik on May 9, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome.

That right there is why we love sports. And this team.

by dose on May 6, 2011 6:17 PM EDT reply actions  

And I still don't

get how and why ’ home whites’ were done away with. It was so much more elegant, for lack of a better word.
And ditto about Dad.

by dose on May 6, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree totally

I hate not wearing home whites.

by 7:11_OT on May 7, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was a good time my peeps.

I remember almost all of this. Billy. Bossy. Deni. Good times. Gillies fyckin up oreilly. Awesome. Great great. Great write up. Thanks for the memories

by Torch7 on May 6, 2011 9:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Amen to that!!

The difference between those athletes and today’s is incomprable … they did more with less. This isn’t just with hockey … it’s with all sports.

I think the biggest obstacle for today’s teams to string together 4 cups is the fact that free agency doesn’t allow for dynasties … Infact it seems dynasty has been redifined to include teams that have dominated for numerous years and made multiple appearances to the finals. I heard the dynasty word applied to the Devils, Red Wings, Avs and Stars in reference to their dominance from the late 90s through mid 2000s … with the Wings being the top of that dynastic class.

Even beyond the dynasty .. The Isles had some good years … It wasn’t until 1989 that the light finally went out on the team that was no longer recognizable from 5 years prior. The torch was handed to Pat LaFontaine in 1987 Easter Epic … with Trotts guiding the young pups into the next decade only a shadow of himself. I sometimes wonder what fate would of had in store for the Islanders if Patty LaLa stayed, and Torrey was not stripped of the checkbook in the early 90s.

by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on May 7, 2011 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

What if...
I sometimes wonder what fate would of had in store for the Islanders if Patty LaLa stayed, and Torrey was not stripped of the checkbook in the early 90s.

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by Dominik on May 8, 2011 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

What if ...

The Islanders drafted in 1983 and 1982:
1.Steve Yzerman instead of Pat LaFontaine because Jimmy D. drafted him as the next pick in the draft.
2. Jeff Beukeboom instead ofGerald Diduck
3. Pat Verbeek instead of Vern Smith or Richard Kromm
4. Ulf Samuelsson instead of Garry Lacey

You can play what if all you want by trading Lafontaine for Turgeon and all the trades Torrey made plus a few picks sprinkled here and there we got the 93 team that was destroyed by Maloney

by mordred0831 on May 24, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Fall of the Dynasty

Here are the reasons for the demise
1. Mike Bossy’s back forced him to retire very young
2. Letting John Tonelli leave
3. Letting Kelly Rhudey leave
4. Ken Morrow’s knees forced him to retire very young
5. Brent Sutter did not live up to his full potential
6. Patrick Flatley’s knees caused his career not to be as good as expected
7. Pat LaFontaine taking longer to develop than expected
8. As much as I hate to say this Torrey and Arbour waiting too long to trade away some of the fading talent and get draft choices, like how he got LaFontaine and Flatley

Bossy, Tonelli, Morrow, and Sutter were young enough to be the veterans the late 80s team needed to bridge the gap for LaFontaine and Flatley’s generation. But it was not meant to be. Whether by injuries, contract squables, and not playing up to their potential the Islanders Dynasty got old very fast.

by mordred0831 on May 24, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

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1979-80


May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.

The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.

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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.

Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.

1981-82


May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.

A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.

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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.

Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.


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