Fun with CBA: How a Thrashers Move to Winnipeg is Worth $6,000 per Player
Here we go again: A Thrashers sale/relocation to Winnipeg could be announced as soon as Tuesday. We'll see. Regardless of when it happens, the normally maddening NHL CBA has a few quite straightforward clauses that addresses just such an occasion. (Note: I wrote about part of this before, but none of you were around then. Well, most of you weren't.)
My favorite clauses of the CBA -- a document I otherwise hate wading through -- have to do with incidental player expenses involved with demotion, trade or franchise relocation. For example, a team is obligated to put a newly acquired player up in a hotel for 21 days -- and pay for one "mid-size" car rental. And if he was acquired after Feb. 15, they're obligated to do so until after the playoffs are over (a nod toward reducing distractions during crunch time, one suspects).
There's also the $6,000 clause, which is no small change to the Ricky Romas of the world:
13.7 Expansion Draft, Team Relocation. Any Player forced to move as a result of being claimed in an expansion draft, or as a result of a team relocation, shall be paid $6,000. (This payment shall not affect or be credited against "moving expenses" to which the Player might otherwise be ent it led).
Moving from Atlanta to Winnipeg kinda stinks from a "this place is fun and well located" standpoint. But hey, at least Dustin Byfuglien and the gang will get $6000 a piece out of the deal.
14.1 Rent/Mortgage Expenses. A Player whose SPC is Assigned (whether by Trade, Waiver, including Players exempt from Waivers, expansion or team relocation) from one Club to another shall be reimbursed from the assignee-Club (or his own Club in the case of relocation) a sum equal to six (6) months' rent or mortgage, as the case may be, on his living quarters in the cit y from which he is Assigned; provided, however, that such reimbursement shall be made only if and to the extent that the Player is legally obligated to make and does make such payment and, provided, further, that the Club's obligation shall in no event exceed for the 2005-06 and 2006-07 seasons, $3,100 per month; for the 2007-08 and 2008-09 seasons, $3,200 per month; for the 2009-10 and the 2010-11 seasons, $3,300 per month.
So this goes for a waiver claim or trade, too, but if all those players in Atlanta have outstanding mortgages or leases in Atlanta, the new Winnipeg team has to have their back -- at least up to $3,300 or more (if it went up for 2011-12). Hopefully none of them live in MC Hammer's old pad.
But this isn't like taking out an insurance claim on your hail damage and pocketing the cash while "forgetting" to get the hail damage fixed. The player has to show proof that he really is obligated to pay the lease and that he, in fact, wrote the check.
Relocated players don't just get moving expenses and outstanding mortgage compensation though. Like traded players, they get ... moving expenses, yay!:
14.2 Moving Expenses. ... In the event that an Assignment of a Player by one Club to another Club or a team relocation occurs during the period between Playing Seasons, the reasonable moving expenses incurred by the Player shall be paid by the Club to which he is Assigned (or by his own Club in the case of a team relocation) if the Player maintained a year-round home at the time of an Assignment in the city from which he was Assigned, and moves during the first Playing Season following an Assignment from said area to the area of the Club to which he was Assigned.
So "reasonable" expenses. Don't be moving and insuring no antique grand piano or Faberge egg.
Did I mention you players have to show proof? They do:
14.5 (a) Prior to its reimbursing an Assigned Player as provided in this Article 14 an assignee-Club (or his own Club in the case of a team relocation) may require satisfactory proof that the Player has paid the amounts for which he seeks reimbursement, and, in the case of rent or mortgage reimbursements, satisfactory proof (e.g., the lease) that the Player is legally obligated to pay such rent or mortgage and the amount thereof. Upon notice to the Player, the assignee-Club (or his own Club in the case of a team relocation) may, as analternative to reimbursement, pay the expenses incurred upon Assignment (in accordance with the foregoing provisions of this Article 14) directly to the person, firms, or corporations involved.
See? No fast ones. NHL players: They're just like you and me.
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Does this $6k per player take into account entry level players that haven't started their nhl career's yet?
What about players with 2-way/nhl contracts playing in juniors?
Good question
It says “any player forced to move as a result of” and it’s in the section on waivers and reassignments. If you’re a junior or AHLer, could you really claim this forced you to move?
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Unclear, but it sounds like Chicago (AHL) is unlikely to remain their affiliate
Bunch of AHL affiliation shifts going on. But I don’t know if the “moving” part applies to the minors.
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Who is their AHL affiliate?
Can you imagine what call-ups will be like? I guess not much worse than when the Isles had the Utah Grizzlies, but still…your personnel decisions almost have to be made a day earlier.
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by Keith Quinn on May 31, 2011 8:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Better them than me.
Sounds like there’s a lot more to the move … like these sticky details. Hey … ya wanna play … ya gotta pay.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on May 30, 2011 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
With Atlanta gone and Winnipeg back in the NHL...
How would you all see the new Re-Alignment of the Divisions?
I say move Nashville to the Southeast, Winnipeg to the Northwest, and Colorado to the Central. That could work. I drew up another possible scenario which would move Dallas to the Central and Vancouver to the Pacific, but I guess we’ll wait and see. The one move that makes the most sense is moving Nashville to the East.
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So far, we have this from McKenzie of TSN
Team will play out of the Southeast Division in the Eastern Conference for one year before NHL realignment kicks in.
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And my guess is that they aren’t going to do anything with an unstable ownership situation in Phoenix. If Quebec gets Phoenix, it works itself out conference wise, then the divisions just need to be tweaked.
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by Keith Quinn on May 31, 2011 8:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that is awful...
this is going to kill the southeast division. i don’t understand why they don’t just re-align now. there’s plenty of time to do so and the traveling is just brutal. it’s going to have disaster written all over it. unless they just play one more season in atlanta, which also seems like a poor idea that will annihilate revenue. shows how lazy the nhl is with this decision.
however, with the exhausted SE division from traveling, it allows the other teams in the east (including the isles) to take advantage in some capacity. maybe it won’t make much of a difference, but it just doesn’t seem fair. even if it helps the isles.
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Agreed
The NHL has had one-off one-season alignments before. But I suppose every existing club doesn’t want to be subject to short-term inconvenience at this late notice, and realignment requires some big honchos fighting it out, so they’re just going to punt.
Shame for the SE teams though.
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An Idea
If they group the three home games together (x4 SE teams) each team only has to travel up to Winnipeg once. May not be psychologically best to play three times in a row, but better than making two trips to Winnipeg, I think. Then Winnipeg can make two road trips, visiting the other SE teams 6 games at a time. It is going to still be a disadvantage, but it doesn’t have to be much of one…. A little weird no matter how they schedule it, though.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Jun 1, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the schedule is already made no?
Could’ve sworn I heard that a few weeks ago.
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I think the schedule is already made no?
Could’ve sworn I heard that a few weeks ago.
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Dallas should move to the Central before Colorado, IMO
But I think either a realignment like you propose, or a more severe one that leaves the West with 14 teams and the East with 16.
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So its now Tuesday
Any official word on ATL to WIN yet?
We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!
RSH on TSN
talking about the move…he doesn’t look too happy.
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I get $35,000 for moving
but then after taxes that becomes a lot less
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