Nassau Coliseum: It Might Be a Dump, But It's *OUR* Dump
With the recent news of the upcoming referendum, the Gloriously Unsponsored Coliseum inches closer to its end. While there will be those happy to see it go, and to see a new Areener rise up from the ashes, an arena doesn't last 40 years without building up some memories. Even more so when that arena is home of the last great sports dynasty.
It's where Tonelli never gave up, a crease that Billy Smith made his home for 20 years, a row of banners that are looked on jealously by 90% of the North American franchises out there, and an arena where for three generations parents have brought their kids to their first hockey game.
Nothing in life is butterflies and sugar all the time though. As much as there's been joy in the arena there's been sadness and struggles. As a community we've been on those ups and downs the last two years. From Al Arbour being run out of town, to watching an aged John Vanbiesbrouck desperately try to keep an underage Isles team in games, and everything in between. There's a lot of memories, good and bad, that are tied into the Coliseum. Talking to Mets fans, as bad as Shea was considered, there's still a lot of good memories tied into that place, memories missed now that they play in Citi Field.
So I figured as the end (hopefully) draws near we can reminisce about our favorite Coliseum memories. I asked the other guys for their thoughts too. Dominik of course had the best memories, while Mike turned up an interesting nugget in his reminiscing. Please leave your favorite memories in comments.
My favorite memory was my first trip to the Coliseum. I grew up on Staten Island, and my dad hated sports and hated to drive. So it isn't surprising then that despite being a huge Islanders fan, most of my first games involved the Devils at Brendan Byrne Arena. When I found out about the Islanders draft party, it was perfect. It was on a weekend, and my dad wouldn't mind taking me out there since it was free. It was Milbury's first draft and there was a lot of hope at the time. We eventually drafted JP Dumont to a cheer.
But what I will always remember (and some of you have heard before) is that Travis Green had shown up. He wasn't under contract at the time, so this drunken maniac behind me decided to start screaming at him to sign a contract already. It was definitely an interesting way to see the Coliseum for the first time.
I was also there the night that they retired Clark Gillies' number. It was actually this guy doing something nice, because I had bet him 50 bucks that the Islanders would beat the Rangers in '94. (So yes, I've just about always been an insane fan.) The place was packed, and the way the Coliseum rocked is like no other arena I've ever been in. They played the Capitals that night, and it was no given that the Isles would win. Jim Carey was coming off his Vezina winning year. Dale Hunter was still being booed. But with the place rocking like it was, you just knew they weren't going to lose. They won 2-0 and it was such a great feeling, and still puts a smile on my face today even knowing how long it would be before another great season.
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Mikb's Memories
Mike mentioned that his two main memories were seeing a Harlem Globetrotters game at the Coliseum and a MISL New York Arrows game against the Pittsburgh Spirit. Quite amusingly though he discovered that in 1983-1984 the Pittsburgh Spirit averaged 8,000 people a game at the old Igloo. During the same season the Penguins averaged only 6,000 people a game while the team tanked for Mario.
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Finally, Dom's favorite memories:
Shawn Bates
I've watched games in Nassau Coliseum on TV all my life. Despite being out of town, the Islanders were decently televised on national and playoff games in the '80s. Thinking about my history of Isles fandom, there are milestones in my head like the final Cup win (I try to forget the Cup loss), Easter 1987, and beyond. ESPN was my conduit to every hair-raising game in 1993. But it wasn't until 2002, after the wilderness walk that was that Maloney-Milbury playoff drought, that I fully appreciated what we'd been missing in the intervening years. Where I understood how lucky Isles fans were in the glory days.
I was not there for the Shawn Bates penalty shot; it only felt like I was, sitting on my couch living and dying with a team none of my friends cared about. The Islanders were alive again and the Internet let me keep up with Isles action and news like never before. I'd routinely curse Neil Smith -- who was doing color on ESPN2 at the time -- throughout those playoffs and hated that he was the voice for that pivotal game. I'd been to old NHL barns, but never to the Coliseum. Yet somehow the crowd and atmosphere in that game translated over the airwaves, and I felt such joy that the Coliseum was seeing something special again. That it was rocking like only the NHL's ever-dwindling number of barns could. (There was no Maple Leaf Gardens in that series, which is either a tragedy or a proper reflection of that soul-less Leafs team.) That Bates moment is why in some respects I'm happy the Coliseum has survived to near the end of its lease. It's like the old ballparks that can never be replicated, no matter how much faux brick you toss in.
John Tavares
So I write about this team from afar. I'm a carpetbagger, an outsider who's adopted the Isles as if they're in my backyard. I think maybe my lack of true Coliseum experience is what makes me relish so much when LHH "old timers" share their memories.
See, it wasn't until 2009 that I got to see the Islanders play at the Coliseum in person. The first game of the 2009-10 season. Home opener, with the New Hope vs. Sidney Crosby, the kid who saved the Penguins. Such a mix of emotions I brought into that trip and that game, it was overwhelming. My seats were in the last row on the ends, where you can choose to clap or simply slam your hand against the ceiling. (I had similar seats in St. Louis for years, and my buddies and I kept them despite offers to move down because "we can stand and do WTH we want there.")
Honestly, I was just thrilled to be at the Coliseum for a sold out game and hear the place truly sound like one of the NHL's old barns. Better yet, the Isles wore their new retro thirds in that beautiful shade of blue and orange, so all felt right to me. The rest was gravy. But John Tavares getting his first assist and then, later, scoring his first NHL goal on the backhand at the end where I was sitting? Fantastic. An eruption from the Isles on the ice, on the bench, and all the fans in the crowd. The place exploded. If this is what it felt like after goal #2 of the young season, I could only imagine what the place felt like when the Cup was on the line.
Maybe one day we get a small taste of that before it's too late.
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So what are some of your favorite memories of the Coliseum?
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OK, that's a tough one.
I have been an islanders fan since the year of my birth, 1974. My first cognizant memories of the Coliseum are from my Uncle Bob’s basement TV, watching Islanders playoff games at his place (we had yet to spring for the hard wired push button cable box).
A few short moments.
My favorite childhood experience at the Coliseum was the 50 in 50. I’m sure there are fifty thousand fans who were there, really, but my most vivid memory from the last row under the ceiling, next to my father is total and complete hysteria. I was sure the fans were so loud the building was going to fall. I swear to this day I could feel us moving. Such unbridled joy, and it has taken decades to bring it back.
My 9 year old daughter’s first Islanders Rangers game. We bought the tickets for Christmas, and Got an upgrade from a friend for section 333. The four teenage Rangers fans in front of us dropped more f-bombs than I could count before the drop of the puck. Later the chicken dance came on, and she looked at me for permission to use the word suck. Only when singing the chicken dance against the Rangers, honey.
I finally got to pay my Dad back. Ticket prices this season meant I could take my Dad to a game and sit next to the visitors bench, with only a security guy between me and the glass. The Panthers were in town, and I figured a game was a game. Thank Matty Moulson for giving me the right, the honor and the privilege to toss my hat on the ice, with my Dad in tow (actually holding on to me, in fear I’d tumble down and crush the security guard.
I for one will miss it when it’s gone.
Let’s Go Isles!
by Bri On LI on May 16, 2011 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Nice!
I have a feeling there are going to be a lot of rec’d comments in this post…
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huh?
“Al Arbour being run out of town” ???
“a crease that Billy Smith made his home for 20 years.”
16 and change i think, but who’s counting? (i am i guess)
student tickets for $2.75 the first few years.
eddie westfall being .. eddie westfall.
brian SPINNER spencer, spinning all over the ice.
billy smith beating up rod gilbert.
gerry hart standing up to guys twice his size. and holding his own.
jean potvin judo flipping some flyer bum over his back.
trottier’s five goal game.
turgeon’s awesome passes
the sound of some guy getting plowed into the dasher by richard pilon.
kenny jonsson carrying the puck up ice like a gazelle.
"Al Arbour being run out of town" ???
I could find the article if you want, but when Arbour retired following the 94 season, the article mentions people in the Isles organization feeling that Torrey was actually the genius getting Arbour great players. Of course the 94 team should have never even sniffed the playoffs, but hindsight is 20/20.
16 and change i think, but who’s counting? (i am i guess)
Math + My Memory is never a strong suit.
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sheesh.
was it a newsday article? and what people in the organization? i don’t recall this whatsoever.
The Times or the Daily News. I read it online.
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Coliseum memories
I grew up in New Jersey but My cousins who lived on Long Island were season ticket holders during the Glory Years. My first hockey game was in 1980 Isles Vs Sabres. I was too young to vividly remember the game but I have a couple of pictures. One is a face off taken by Gillies with the 1980 Lake Placid Olympic patch on the shoulder.
After that I did not get to the Coliseum much. I mostly went to see them play the Devils and Rangers. Once I got my drivers license that changed.
In the 1988-89 season I went to the coliseum for the first time since the 1980 game.
It was against the Devils and the Isles were in the midst of a 12 game losing streak. But that night they won.
I went to a couple of games in the ’91-92 season including the home opener. This was during another dreary time in Islander history so I remember a lot of empty seats.
Then Mr. Torrey Cleaned house and made some of the best trades in Islander history in early 1992.
In 1993 with the Islanders battling for a playoff spot, playing some of the best hockey the coliseum has seen in several years, I went to my first Islander Ranger game at the coliseum. It was tremendous. I sat high up in 317 and the noise just was obnoxiously loud – in a good way-. The Isles won 5-3.
Then in late 1993 I was fortunate enough to have gone to each game 4 of the playoff series. The first game 4 against the Caps was absurd. Ferraro did it again! I have never been in a louder building. That is until game 4 against the Penguins. A back and forth very high scoring game. Just an incredible atmosphere. Game 4 against the Habs was still exiting but they were down 3-0 at the time. 2 of those losses in OT. Wow – were they close to going ot the cup finals that season!
The ‘93-’94 season was disappointing. There were such high hopes coming off that great run but the team played .500 hockey and had to face the rangers in the first round. I was at game 4 and I have tried my best to suppress that memory.
After the lockout in 95 I was attending hofstra so it was exiting to think about going to all the games within walking distance. Unfortunately that team was bad and the dismantling had begun. I went to many games in 95 96 97 98 99 2000, hoping that at some point Milbury’s draftees would pay off. It never happened and year after year the Coliseum was empty and silent.
Then another set of big trades and signings during the 2001 offseason jumpstarted the Isles to a tremendous start to the season. New Coach Peter Laviolette had the team playing relentless hockey. In addition to several regular season games I was fortunate enough to be at the playoff games against Toronto. The Loud and raucous coliseum was back.
Well we all know the story after that. A couple of 8 seeds and the Ted Nolan surprise playoff season only lead to another dismantling. I went to several games during the 02-07 seasons including a few of the playoff games against the Sens and Sabres. But it was just not the same.
I have since moved to Florida and have seen the islanders play the Panthers a couple times. I was even at the night where the Panthers joined with the Islanders to honor Bill Torrey for his work down here with the Panthers.
I am now thinking about how many times I am going to have to fly into MacArthur next season to see this young thrilling team play their last couple of seasons at the Old barn.
I know their are glory days ahead and I plan to enjoy some of them at the Coliseum. Especially come next April and May!
by BLUEYOU on May 16, 2011 10:59 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
all the ...
moments during the dynasty kind of go without saying, but kenny morrow’s long empty netter to clinch cup # 4 was the pinnacle of it all.
i can't stop !!!
okay, last one.
for a while.
al arbour starting games with nystrom and gillies out there together to knock some heads together, get the crowd going nuts, and set a tone right off the bat.
it worked.
by dose on May 16, 2011 11:33 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The NVMC
As much as I have enjoyed going to the old barn, I will not be to unhappy to see a new areneer built. I have been in MSG and the (then) Continental Airlines Arena to see many games and I must say, the NVMC is minor league in comparison. Lets face it, nothing lasts forever, and progres stops for nobody. Our beloved Islanders deserve a new venue ASAP.
We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!
Nassau Coliseum Wasn't Minor League When It was Built
I saw games in Boston Garden, Maple Leaf Gardens, the Montreal Forum, Chicago Stadium. Those were all great buildings with great atmosphere. But they too would be considered “minor league” in comparison to today’s wide concourse pleasure palaces – which I find to be completely devoid of any character.
Other than being 20 minutes from my house, the Meadowlands was always sterile and the roof was too high to trap the crowd noise. MSG? IMO, one of the most over-rated buildings ever. Obstructed seats galore. Good luck trying to find out wwhat’s going on in the corners.
Nassau Coliseum Wasn’t Minor League When It was Built
No, but neither was it state of the art. Places like Boston Garden were state of the art at the time they were built- but when NVMC was built, it was a nice, average arena.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on May 17, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
true, but
Mostly that’s because it was a rush job. The arena was actually opened and played in before it was completely finished. And if I remember my reading correctly, the concourses were originally planned to be larger. Some corners had to be cut to get things done (thanks Roy Boe!).
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And wasn’t there going to be LIRR that way until somebody stopped it?
I love NIMBY planning. It’s all around me.
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by Dominik on May 17, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Everything still could have been done.
But they just went EH, good enough.
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by TheMetalChick on May 17, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
it would have been tough once the arena was finished, though
Retrofitting one of these buildings is never easy.
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My first ranger-Islander game...
with Smudge.
We had seats on the glass. She pounded that glass as Zeke and Prust battled only a few feet away. She stood on her chair when DP stopped Gaborik on a penalty shot..and became hoarse as she tried to drown out the sea of ranger fans behind us. She was rewarded with an extremely exciting game, and afterwards Trevor Gillies skated over and flipped her the game puck.
The most important game in Islander History (that I was present for) was the clincher to get to their first cup series against buffalo…. but the Smudge-Gillies game was the most important game in JPinVA history… that one made my daughter an Islander fan for life.
Hopefully I get to take her to a playoff game there…. she thought that game and the final Isle-Pitt OT games were incredible… i can only imagine what she’ll think of a playoff game at FORT NEVERLOSE… I just pray we don’t have to wait for a new “areener” for that.
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by JPinVA on May 16, 2011 11:56 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I agree, JP
Nothing would make me happier than bringing my daughter to a packed house, Gloriously Unsponsored NVMC for a playoff game.
My 7 month old son was charming the pants off the ladies behind us for his first game ever, that very same final Pitt OT game, another great generational moment for an Islander family.
Hard to pick one
Some of my tops were driving back home from school to catch a playoff game with my dad. Say what you want about the place but the big lot makes for good tailgating.
The metal platform underneath the last row. It was such a joy as a kid to stomp that thing as loud as I could.
All the Isles Rags games.
A 7 goal game against Pitt
Sneaking up to the 100s when the team sucks and the loud packed craziness when the team is good.
Vote Yes on August 1st.
Too many to mention gamewise....
but by far the best of the memories for me are just the fact that this was something that my Dad and I did.
My parents were divorced and Dad bought season tickets…….The Islanders and NVMC became something to keep Daddy and his little girl close and something to always bond over.
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by JW1970 on May 16, 2011 12:40 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
As a soon to be card carrying member of AARP, where do I begin?
Besides the obvious clinching the Cups at home and Banner-Raisings, those 2 Game 6’s against Pens and Flyers after being down 3-0 in both series back in ‘75. Watching Nystrom bust his ass every night. Gillies fighting O’Reilly, Bossy 50-50, Not being able to remember where I parked one night when it was about 10 degrees upon leaving after one game and having a Nassau police car drive me around until I spotted it,lol. Games starting @ 8:05….I can go on and on…..But I will say one thing about the Old Barn. I remember it having great sightlines for hockey. Not a bad seat in the house.
But I saw many concerts there as well, the most memorable for me was AC/DC with Bon Scott opening for Ted Nugent sitting 5th Row Center. Couldn’t hear for 3 days. KISS, Rush, BOC….. Saw some Tractor Pulls/ Mud Bog racing there too. Globetrotters, Dr. J with the Nets (when I actually cared about basketball). First time I saw the RB/B&B Circus was there as well.
Guess I have been fortunate to have many memories of The Coliseum.
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by FireGarthSnow on May 16, 2011 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Just one moment?
Don’t know if I can do that. It woudl be hard to top my first game, though. It was in the ‘83-’84 season and the Oilers came to visit. Both Bossey and Gretzky scored 4 goals, and the game ended in an 8-8 tie. It was back and forth all the way, Too bad I was only 9 or 10 at the time. I didn’t realize just how special that rivalry was.
I saw the Arrows win the MISL title two out of the four times they won (another dynasty right there, at about the same time the Isles were on top). But again, I was even younger at those games than the first Isles game I just mentioned.
I guess the last ones that stick out were Games 3 and 6 of the Isles/Leafs series. I was first row behind the visitor’s goal for Game 3, and I watched Sedin’s face get smushed into the glass. I remember his nose staying in one place, but the rest of the face moving elsewhere. It was nearly cartoonish. He actually did break his nose, from what I remember. I was in worse seats for Game 6, but watching a young Trent Hunter step up and deliver is an image that will never leave me. It didn’t hurt when Cairns got his pound of flesh either.
I look forward to reading everyone else’s answers when I get home tonight. Back to work for now.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on May 16, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Mausoleum Memories
Between Islanders games, concerts, circuses, wrestling, NY Saints games and other assorted gatherings, I spent a significant portion of my early life at the Coliseum. Some quick memories:
1. My favorite, Game 3 2002 playoffs. First home playoff game in seven seasons. Islanders win easily, 6-1, but I’ve never been in a louder, more electric atmosphere in my life. It felt like the place was going to shoot off into space with every goal.
2. Somewhat less exciting but memorable nonetheless, my first concert there: ZZ Top and George Thorogood & The Destroyers in 1994.
3. WWF Bunkhouse Brawl, sometime in the late 80’s. Seats on the floor. Mr. Fuji wore a suit of armor. (I think it was him, anyway)
4. For some reason, I’ll never forget Beniot Hogue scoring an overtime goal against the Islanders literally hours after signing with Tampa Bay in a meaningless game between two very bad teams. Literally a few thousand people all at once said “Aw, c’mon! Him?”
5. Took my wife to her first pro hockey game, last season’s 7-1 Columbus Day drubbing by the Sabres. I was still happy she got to see the place that I love (and hate) so much. Too bad she got locked out when she stepped outside to use her phone.
6. Seeing the final road game in Hartford Whalers history (with Derek King playing for the Whale). The Islanders won and fans pelted the ice with giveaway plastic travel mugs for some reason. I kept mine.
7. Similarly, a few years later, the Islanders gave out squishy “stress pucks” at a game against Godknowswho. Jason Dawe scored the go-ahead goal and the foam pucks rained down. That time, I threw.
Honorable mention: Getting to step on the ice and onto the bench; getting to touch the Stanley Cup during it’s arena tour; getting a Geico-sponsored coffee mug after a game against the Red Wings at least 12 years ago. While a few obnoxious Rangers fans (and even some Islanders fans) scoffed at and passed on the mugs, the Wings fans were mostly elated, saying things like, “Look, honey! Wow, these are so great! Thanks! Gee whiz! That’s real nice!” I still have the mug and use it frequently.
I’m gonna miss that dump.
by PGI on May 16, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Mug Game
That was almost frightening. I remember thinking people in the lower tier must have just been getting pummeled with them. They were not small or light.
ZZ Top/George Thorogood
I was there for that……
"If the bell needs to be answered, we've got the guys to answer it." "If they want to start something, that's fine."- Trevor Gillies
To be determined
Now, I have two hockey-related dreams.
1. Get a Fighting Sioux jersey, now that the name is being retired.
2. Get to an Isles game at the Coliseum and finally have a Coli-related memory that isn’t “socks for your eleventh birthday” level-lame.
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Bossy's 48th (and 49th, 50th and 51st)
It was the mid 80s (85 or 86?) and Bossy and the former Cup team were in their twilight years. It was late in the season and Bossy was stuck at 47 goals and there were questions about him reaching 50 again.
I don’t remember the opponent, but I do remember Bossy scoring 4 times thereby reaching 50 and then some. It was a Jordan-esque performance.
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on May 16, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
Researching
You have a very good memory.
In 1986 Bossy got hot at the end of the season. He scored his 39th and 40th on the 8th of February against the Kings, and potted a hat trick a week later against the Devils. Then, after a couple of weeks of scuffling for goals, he scored four at home against the Calgary Flames on March 11, 1986 – #48, 49, 50, and 51. (Looks like two on Vernon and two on Lemelin, but it’s impossible to be sure.) He then scored ten more in the final thirteen games (he had another hat trick in Toronto on March 20th) to finish with 61.
This was the year he reached 500 goals, btw – 2 Jan 1986, he scored what looks like an empty netter with 17 seconds left against Boston. He had the game-winner earlier in the period (the times are messed up in the online boxscore).
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by mikb on May 16, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My first concert was there:
Poison and Warrant. They had lasers. That’s about all I remember.
by Les Beaver on May 16, 2011 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Thanks for mentioning the Arrows!
Besides a handful of Islander games each year back in the glory years (playoffs only on TV, however, and I was kind of sad about that) I got to go to quite a number of Arrows games, including the very first one against the Cincinnati Kids (IIRC). I remember Steve ZZZungul, Branko Segota, and various other characters like Julie Veee (yes, they spelled it with three e’s as a gag) and Hugh Creaney. That was a lot of fun, and yes, another Long Island dynasty.
Otherwise, I have all sorts of childhood memories from the Coliseum: Globetrotters, Ringling Brothers… I remember the smell of the place (popcorny) even though I haven’t been there in ages. I wonder if it still smells the same…
Ah yes, one moment sticks in mind
Glancing down at the bench (early 80s, I think, so Rollie must have been in goal) and having Billy Smith turn around and stare right back up at me. I felt like he was staring me straight in the eyes for some reason, and I didn’t flinch. It may have been my imagination, though.
Steve Zungul!
IIRC I didn’t even get to see Zungul. Spirit won, 8-7. (I’m fairly sure that was the score.)
Now, I’ve played a lot of roller hockey, dek hockey… I played only a few games of intramural indoor soccer, and I’ve got to say, never again. Got whaled in the face point-blank by a shot and it’s a miracle my nose wasn’t broken. Those guys are frickin’ nuts.
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True
And there were surprisingly few injuries. I even saw a game between the Arrows (or was it a U.S. squad of some sort?) and the Yugoslav national team. The fans were chanting “Let’s Go Commies”…
hahahahahaha
Now that’s sweet.
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Yugoslavia
I remember my dad teaching me about what a powder keg that was via MISL player relations. He knew which region each “Yugoslav” player was from, and he’d tell me why players from the same country didn’t appear as brotherly as you’d expect.
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Good point
A lot of them were Croatian though, I think. Zungul and Segota anyway…
Was your father involved with the MISL?
Not involved
Just a micro-attentive fan of the NHL and MISL.
Our NHL Official Guide player registers are highlighted by nationality.
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Okay
But was there an official MISL guide by Yugoslav SR? Your father must have really known his stuff!
He was an Eastern European and a political scientist
So…yeah, he was waaaay into this stuff. I wasn’t allowed to pronounce even North American NHLers by their Anglicized name. (Joe Sakic…Tony Hrkac…)
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Julie VEEE!!!!
I HATED that guy! (I don’t honestly remember why.)
Branko Segota had such an awesome name. Hmmm, if Mrs. Lighthouse ever has children…
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Oh yeah
Pretty unreal to see 18,000 people for indoor soccer. It’s like disco must’ve been — hard to describe the phenomenon unless you were there.
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I had no idea, actually
At the Coliseum, 8,000 was a decent crowd. I was always annoyed that the scores (almost) never made the news.
you could find them in the agate type
Newsday would run capsules on the results from time to time and you could always find the standings on the sports summary page. But yeah, I don’t remember big Arrows stories or regular coverage, except maybe once in a blue moon, like league titles. Even then it’d be the rip-and-read, they didn’t send a reporter of their own.
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I haven't felt this indoor soccer nostalgia in a while
Man, I even used to listen to games on radio.
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Oh geez
There are far too many to list…I’ll try to keep this short:
- An Isles-Rags game, probably the ‘91-’92 season (I was born in ‘81), when the Isles scored the winner with 2.7 seconds left (some internet scouring and I found this game’s recap: http://www.nytimes.com/1991/12/29/sports/hockey-islanders-beat-clock-and-rangers.html?scp=1&sq=december%2029,%201991%20rangers&st=cse)
- ’93 Playoffs, Game 2 against the Caps, and this weird guy sitting near us who was apparently keeping and score and alerting us every time the game climbed up the record books as the longest game ever;
- ’93 Playoffs, and my Rangers fan bro-in-law, who should probably be sainted for doing this, taking me to Game 3 against the Habs. I remember Turgeon getting stoned by Roy on a breakaway in OT and also rifling what seemed like a 140mph slapshot that in my eyes knicked the crossbar. Habs scored and the bro-in-law gave a subtle fist pump. Still have not forgiven him for that;
- ’94 Playoffs, Game 3. Ugh. Every fan should experience this at least once in their life. It will make seeing Kyle Okposo handing the Cup over to JT that much sweeter;
- First row seats to seeing Ray Ferraro’s nose broken, and Derek King taking the water bottle and inexplicably spraying the blood with water;
- Turgeon on the Blues scoring against Tommy Salo. Stung less b/c we had $8 student tickets;
-Jose Theodore scoring;
- Watching Bryan Berard fly around the ice in his rookie season and thinking he was the next Potvin;
- Getting goosebumps seeing Roberto Luongo as a rookie. I also remember Theo Fleury scoring on him in a forgettable Isles-Rags game;
- Olli Jokinen penalty shot goal against Hasek…don’t ask me why
- Shawn Bates penalty shot game. Voice did not recover for 3 days;
- JT’s first goal
I can only imagine what the last game at NVMC will be like, but I will do everything in my power to be there for it.
by Dorfer on May 16, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Also need to add
My cousin and I had season tickets in the forgettable mid- to late-90’s, and my cousin drove from Queens to Suffolk to pick me up after school, drive to NVMC, bring me back home in Suffolk, then drive himself back to Queens. And I couldn’t understand why he’d fall asleep during the games. When the Isles get to the Finals, I owe him a ticket or two.
Well done
And no need to keep this list short! I’m having a ball reading everybody’s lists…
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In that case, I'll add a few more
- Peter Laviolette and the Americans in an exhibition game against Russia in 1994, prepping for the Lillehammer Olympics. Snow and Dunham splitting time in net. The bad guys won.
- Numerous Billy Joel concerts. Dom, you mentioned this in an areener thread, but let’s hope he’s up for opening the new NVMC.
Wow!
The Lillehammer warmup, now that’s an interesting trivial one I’d never have thought about.
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favorite memory
first game i ever went to was november 5th 1995 against the flyers. i still have the ticket stub from the game. all that i can remember from that day, i was 3 at the time, was that my dad said he had a huge surprise for me and the next thing i knew, we were sitting in the coliseum…bought me my first jersey there and got me hooked on watching the isles for life.
also, last season, went to the first isles-rangers game of the season and i got to see jt score the game winner…then this season sitting right behind the bench when we played toronto on march 8th…i told my friend that martinek would end up getting the winning goal seeing as he was due for either a goal or an assist, he ended up getting the assist but still harassing every single maple leaf fans around us made my night
SHOOT THE DAMN PUCK!!!
Just. Blow. It. Up.
It is a decrepit, piece-of-crap building. Memories or not. If you’re an Islander fan, you have to admit that its time. It’s time to put our zombie Old Yeller building down.
Hey, wail until I get to see it there, sparky
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on May 16, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Then they'd have to build a whole new areener.
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Never been there
After 30 years of being a fan I finally get to go next year. I doubt highly I will think it’s a dump.
Can’t wait.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on May 16, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions
Tough
Some quick ones off the top of my head. A lot of mine are from my childhood. My pops had season tickets from their first year, so I was going to games even before I was born in 76.
1) Seeing one of the banners raised on opening night. Watching the banner go up and getting to see the Cup in person is one of my earliest memories, so I’m guessing this might have been after the first one, but I’m not at all sure.
2) Falling asleep during many a slow second period, only to wake up to that cold wind that blasts across the parking lots.
3) Horns honking Let’s Go Islanders after wins big and small.
4) The 93 run was the first time I went to all home playoff games in a season. The Penguin series was obviously phenomenal as a whole, and game 7 in Pittsburgh was ridiculous; but games 4 and 6 were actually pretty amazing in their own right. Game 4 had Tommy Fitzgerald scoring shorties on the same PK, one at the end of the second and one at the start of the third. Both games had the Isles taking leads only to have the Pens keep punching back, and the Isles barely holding on to win. They were unusually high scoring, but insanely entertaining, nerve-wracking games. I think because of this the crowd was exceptionally loud for those two.
5) All the characters at the Coliseum. I think I learned every curse word there. The guy who only referred to Wayne McBean as “McIdiot” or “Captain Minus.” The bugle man, who one night fell off the top tier railing at the end of our section down onto the concrete of the first tier (in true hockey fashion he was back for the third). The two rows of fans way up in the rafters that fought each other at an Isles/Rags game, one poor guy being tossed into the aisle and consequently tumbling all the way down those steep stairs. The guy whose cowbell was really just a hunk of metal he hit with a stick.
6) Mostly it’ll be a place I remember for all the times I had with my dad and my brother, watching games. Talking sports. Hanging out. It’s rare we get to do that anymore, so it’s nice to remember when we got to do it at the old barn.
by afrosupreme on May 16, 2011 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
1974
The Beach Boys and The Kinks.
LO-LO-LO-LO-LOLA!
Since I'm only in my early 20's,
The most memorable for me off the top of my head:
-Pens fight game this year
-The visible sadness and frowns of opponents visiting fans we destroyed here (buffalo fans lately, and pens fans that fight game)
-Cheering for and watching the man we call Palffy for a few years (far too short)
-The playoff games, obviously
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Let's go Islanders! Beep...Beep...Beep.Beep.Beep.
Datsyuk IS the best player in the nhl
I guess you missed the Naked Brothers Band...
sorry… just kiddin’ bro. /envying youth…
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Can't remember the year...
But, I played youth soccer for HBC. One year I made a youth all star team and we played our all star game at the Coliseum. It was either just before an NY Arrows game or during an extended intermission. I played out of position at center back. I must have been 10 or 11 at the time. Then, I had a birthday party at a Arrows game. Got to meet some of the players. To this day, Shep Messing is still one of my all time childhood heroes. I have vague memories of the Islanders Dynasty Years. It wasn’t until the Drive for Five that I was finally a rabid Isles fan. Lucky me. Getting crushed in five games by the surging Oilers was horrible.
by ejcal70 on May 16, 2011 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Also,
I saw a Guns n’ Roses show at the Coliseum. It was on their Use Your Illusion Tour. Skidrow opened up for them. Pretty good show.
Was Axl 90 minutes late?
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90 Minutes?!?
It was more like over two hours. Skidrow played their set. They were great. Then we waited for GNR. Hour went by. No GNR. Two hours. No GNR. Finally, there was an announcement that GNR was delayed getting out of Manhattan and they would be at the Coliseum soon. Finally, GNR showed up after two hours. It was an ok show. Axl kept bitching about a photo shoot and interview they had done with Rolling Stone Magazine. How Rolling Stone sucked and to not buy the issue GNR was to appear in. Plus, Axl had broken his foot and was running around the stage in a medical boot thing.
What a bastard waste of talent he was
Amazing group, but he destroyed what he helped create.
That medical boot story sounds familiar.
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you got to be on the Coli floor??!?
Holy crap. That’s tremendous. Good on you.
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Never got to go to any milestone games or anything like that. I just remember all through the mid 80’s going with friends and having to beg for rides from our parents to get their and beg for a ride back from someone else’s parents. And buying the cheap $10 seats and then moving down as far as we could without getting asked for our tickets.
My #1 favorite moment was this past Feb 5, 2011. Drove the wife and kids back to LI so my kids could got to their 1st Islander game. My 2 girls and my niece screaming, singing, chanting for 2 1/2 friggin hours. My 9 yr old got so caught up in the moment she yelled out to Mike Fisher, “you suck!”. I kind of had to scold her for that only because Mrs. Icefan was their too. Otherwise I might have given her a hi 5. Since then my girls always want to know how the team is doing and when can we go back to NY and see another game.
by Icefan71 on May 16, 2011 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
My favorite moments, in no particular order
Opening night, 2001 – Rebirth of the NYI. Isles win their first 4 on the road. Home opener against Detroit. Less than a month after 9/11. Bag pipes start playing Amazing Grace on the ice. Crowd falls completely SILENT. No applause after they stop playing, still silence. Isles and Red Wings come together on the ice to unfurl a giant American flag. Game starts. A little over a minute in, Yashin passes to Kvasha right in front of Detroit’s net. GOAL. The place goes fucking APESHIT. I don’t think I’ve ever heard it louder in that place. Even though Detroit ended up winning in OT, probably still the best game I’ve gone to.
Halloween, 1998 (I think) : Isles vs. Flyers. Memorable because me and my 3 friends were obnoxiously drunk, and three rows back from a BIG group of Flyers fans. Isles win 3-2, and it is by the grace of God that we didn’t get kicked out and /or in a fight.
Sometime in the mid 90’s : Isles vs. Buffalo. Isles jump out to quick 4-0 lead, and then… wouldn’t you know it, Buffalo ties it up in the 3rd. Looks like it’s going to OT, until CLAUDE LAPOINTE scores against Hasek on a breakaway with 30 seconds left. I think I officially lost my mind on that night.
Oh, and chanting “Eat a salad” at some fat woman in a Senator’s jersey during either game 3 or 4 (can’t remember, think it was 3), whatever year it was that they played Ottawa i the first round (2003?)
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by cunch punch on May 16, 2011 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Not my favorite memory, but up there...
Seeing the Nets with Dr. J, Larry Keenan beat the Denver Nuggets for the ABA championship. After the game, fans could stay to watch the Isles-Kings playoff game in LA (10:30 PM) on closed circuit TV. They actually dropped screens down from the rafters and projected the game on them.
Jumbo Jim Eakins, Rich House Jones, Super John Williamson, et al.
And John Sterling yelling “bullseye” on the radio with Mike DiThomasso.
If we're gonna add "not out favorite" memories...
Went to see Black and Blue (Black Sabbath and BOC) in the early eighties… Got so high I passed out during the intermission… missed the whole damn Sabbath show (never did get to see Dio, RIP)… then had to listen to how great the show was while scoffing down the back-to-sobriety sack at the Lynbrook White Castle…
If I died that night and they did an autopsy it would have looked like the “wrong shark” scene from Jaws.
Sidenote… I just googled it to see if I could find the right year(1981) and found there is a concert movie… I wonder if I could see myself sleeping through a Sabbath show at 16, could it cure my current insomnia…
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by JPinVA on May 16, 2011 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Only got the Coliseum once
Early January 1999 against the Sharks. Isles lost in OT, but Kenny Jonsson scored a nice one-timer. Made the pregame highlight montages for a few years afterward
Only other time I’ve seen the Isles in person was last season when they came down to Dallas. Waiting for their trip next season (and hoping its not over the holidays)
In Fall 2001, my high school band had a competition at Hofstra, and we missed the turn for our parking lot, so the bus drove to the Coliseum parking lot before turning around. Not too many hockey fans in the group, and the ones that were went for the Rangers and Devils. Still, this was in the midst of their hot start en route to the ’02 playoffs. Never been so excited to turn around in a parking lot
by Dr. Copp on May 16, 2011 6:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Coliseum Memories
Unfortunately, it wasn’t until mid-season this season that I really became an Islanders fan. Before that I had casual interest at best (which I now forever regret). Here are some memories (Isles and non-Isles):
- My earliest memories of the Coliseum date back to the mid-nineties Fisherman era. My dad has been an Islanders fan since the Dynasty years and before so he would take my older brother and I to games since we were in diapers. I don’t remember any specific games, but I do remember back when they used to blow smoke when they sounded the goal horn.
- I vaguely remember watching the Shawn Bates game during the 01-02 playoffs and seeing the place go crazy. My dad and brother were at that game, and came home just freakin’ out. One of the biggest regrets of my life is not attending.
- I believe it was the 05-06 season when they had the night honoring the Dynasty Islanders. I was awesome to see all those guys on that ice.
- I maybe went to the occasional game each season, but after a re-surging interest, me and my brother went to the Isles Canucks game back in January. It was the first time that I realized how awesome Hockey really is. There’s nothing like everyone jumping up simultaneously and hearing that goal horn. After that, even though they lost in a SO, I went to as many games as I could and will continue to do so till the day I die.
- My most recent game was the Isles-Bruins game back in March. It was my girlfriend’s (an avid Bruins fan’s) first time at the Coliseum and it got pretty intense. They were down 2-0 and my heart was racing. I exploded when Moulson scored with 2 secs left in the 2nd. I’ll never forget it.
Non Isles memories: Seeing Bruce Springsteen back in ’08, Iron Maiden in ’06, and seeing the Harlem Globetrotters 10 or so years ago.
People love to call the Coliseum a “dump” or a “shithole,” but I have to disagree. Even though I know that a new “areener” is necessary, people just forget all the positives. It has that intimate atmosphere that the new arenas simply don’t have. Plus it can get louder than any other NHL building. I went to see the Islanders play the Bruins in Boston last month, and even though the TD Garden seemed all new and fancy with its HD screen and all, it just felt soulless. Plus, I felt like I was going there to cash a check or withdraw money…
by Isles1228 on May 16, 2011 6:49 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Plus
Arenas like the TD Garden just don’t have that feeling of history. Sure, all the Stanley Cup/NBA championship banners are displayed, but aside from the Celtic’s 2008 championship and Bruin’s division titles, the rest all happened at the Boston Garden.
At least we can say it all happened at the Coliseum…
Holy Crap I forgot...
Metallica in January 09. Show kicked ass…
One of the biggest regrets of my life is not attending.
That feeling is precisely why I rarely skip a concert from a band I really like anymore. Usually people report back to me and I regret not going.
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Just wanted to say
This thread was a good read. It’s always eye opening reading other’s stories of experiences in old arenas. Being all over the place, I’ve only gone to a handful of live games, and never in any of the “old” buildings, only the newer generation of “areeners” (that word makes me laugh) – once at GM Place, bunch at the Colliseum Corel Centre Scotiabank place and most recently one at Jobing and Verizon. But all of them are just the same – modern, sterile buildings with no real sense of je ne sais quoi that I assume the old buildings have/had.
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This year
I was at both Wells Fargo and Nassau, and while the Flyer fans got loud, it still didn’t compare to the way the Arena rocked. Plus it’s too much pumped in noise at Wells Fargo (and I’m pretty sure that goes for a lot of the other new arenas)
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Indeed
I grew up at the St. Louis Areener, saw Chicago Stadium, and have been to the Coliseum. In terms of no-frills atmosphere — and I’m admittedly a hopeless nostalgic — zero new buildings compare to that. (I assume the Aud, Forum, Maple Leafs Gardens and Boston Gardens were similar.)
It’s the ceilings, the hard-material seats, the lack of luxury boxes, the “roughing it” cramped quarters — all that stuff fed noise, noise, NOISE — and people there to watch the game and scream rather than schmooze over a cocktail. It’s like camping — stripped-down frills clarify your priorities and purpose.
I get the economic reality/necessity of a new building, they just make me feel a lot less like a fan and much more like a guy charging a night’s entertainment in a pricey Vegas club. Maybe it will be awesome, or maybe I just paid $16 for a drink. (I used to go to games and not feel ripped off/think about the money if it was a bad on-ice showing. But now?)
That’s why I just want people to enjoy the Coliseum while they can — and why the Islanders need to get good and competitive so that the atmosphere follows suit.
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Boston Garden
I sat in one of the lower rows in the upper tier. The seat must’ve been a foot wide. But you were right on top of the ice. I would’ve liked to have seen a playoff game there. Oh, and Terry O’Reilly still sucks.
Second paragraph is pretty bang on. Especially in big market cities like Toronto and Vancouver most of the lower bowls are filled up with the so-called “suits” who don’t seem to be interested in yelling their freaking heads off. They’re more interested in going to the games to network. Which is a shame. They do help pay the bills, but the higher ticket costs force out the fans who, despite maybe not having the riches, would be as loud as possible.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"
Still waiting for it to be done right
Can it really be so hard to build a modern arena with the same faultless sight lines, a ceiling that helps the crowd be heard, AND luxury suites, wide concourses, great concessions, and enough parking? I mean, mankind has been building large buildings since the freakin’ Parthenon and Roman Coliseum, and they haven’t improved since then?
HOW CAN THIS BE SO HARD?
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by mikb on May 17, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You know what's funny?
San Jose’s areener is considered really loud — and short of luxury boxes. It was opened in 1993 as part of the new wave.
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HOW CAN THIS BE SO HARD?
It’s called Viagra.
In more serious news, I agree with you. You’d think they’d be able to get the acoustics right – but I feel like the huge ceiling areas many rinks have just absorb sound.
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by Semi_Colon on May 17, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, where do I start
1982 – I remember my father and I were up pretty high toward the top of the building for Islanders Penguins Game 5 – John Tonelli became one of my favorite athletes, forever. It didn’t hurt that my father told me he was Italian, I’m sure. Always loved his heart and his celebrations.
1982 or 1983 – I saw a New York Arrows game. Steve Zungul scored a bunch of goals.
1984 – Islanders Capitals – Game 2 (?) Andy Kallur scored in overtime and the Islanders won 3-2, I believe. I remember Kallur doing a gigue after scoring the winner.
1985- Islanders Capitals Game 4 – I remember it was snowing fierce outside. The PA announcer (Rich Kahn?) announced that my father left the lights on in his car (announced the make of the car and license #). Yikes. My father made it in for the second period. The Isles trailed 4-2 after 2 and scored 4 unanswered goals to win the game. I remember Bill Smith stonewalling Bob Carpenter’s penalty shot to preserve the 5-4 lead. I also remember the music for Star Wars being played with the message “The Empire (State) Strikes Back”, as the Isles came back from 2-0 to win the series in 5. This may have been the best hockey game I ever attended in person (even better than the 82 playoff game and the 02 Bates game).
I was also at Mar 11, 1986, which was the day John Tonelli was traded. It was also the last time Bossy would score 50, and as was said before he scored 4 goals that night (I also remember the game was on ESPN for some reason, but anyway).
1986 or 1987, I saw Motley Crue at the NVMC. Their drummer, whom I can’t remember right now, was in a suspended, porous plastic bubble that traveled over the heads of the fans on the floor. The drummer was spinning around in this plastic thing doing flips and crap, and I swear to you, just like from a Rob Reiner movie, the dude started hurling chunks all over the place onto the fans below. I almost peed myself.
1990 – Islanders Rangers Game 4 – Sam Rosen and I got into a staring contest – it was pretty badass, lol Islanders won in overtime – Brent Sutter goal (5-4 win, I think maybe 4-3)
1991-1994 Many, many concerts including many, many Grateful Dead shows. The most innocent, fun period in life, when I wasn’t in jail, er, I mean high school.
1992- My father was on the ice to shoot the "Score-O’ contest. He didn’t win the car, but hit the wood partition in the net with every shot, thank God.
1993 – Received Bill Smith’s autograph at Billy Smith’s jersey retirement ceremony. Isles beat the Penguins, which was iced by an Uwe Krupp empty-netter
1993 playoffs – Islanders Penguins Game 4. Islanders won 7-5. Healy was good. Derek King was dynamite.
Lived out of state for a while…
2001-2002 season, I owned season tickets. I picked a pretty good year to do so.
2002 against the Capitals to get into the playoffs. I can still see Kenny Jonsson sliding in front of a shot at the end of the game there to preserve a 5-4 win.
2002 playoffs Games 3,4, and 6. All of them were memorable. Game 4 was obviously a classic. Shawn Bates.
by jpwjr1199 on May 16, 2011 7:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That Motley Crue drummer is Tommy Lee … c’mon dude :) …. I remember all my friends going to that show – and I couldn’t go …. I’ve since seen Motley Crue 3 times though
by Arbourisgod on May 17, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I blame my lack of Coliseum memories on being young and not growing up loving hockey as much as i do now
Theres only a few great memories i can recall at the old barn, ill start with the first one, one ive posted on here so many times you people are probably sick of it now
March 7, 2009: The game that made me love hockey
Got tickets from my uncle for christmas, went with my dad. Sean bergenheim gets his hat trick against the devils, before that i had been to several islander games but i never saw them win, and i never really got into the sport. But that game, seeing them win and the hats go flying on the ice and everything, from that moment on even amongst the last place finish season, i loved hockey more than any other sport
i remember going to a diner with some friends afterwards and they asked me how the game was, i simply replied “awesome”. Friend of mine says “yeah i heard bergenheim had a hat trick”
And i replied, in my youthful ignorance of the sport “yeah, he had 3 goals too!”
please forgive me hockey gods for i have sinned…….
February 11th, The Night of The Penguin Slaughter:
oh yeah, i was there. Unfortunately, i was there with my girlfriend and her older sister and brother and law (also an islander fan), and we basically spent half the game trying to explainining to the girls “no no no were not the bad guys, THEYRE the bad guys, we never hurt other teams i swear!!!!!”
My girlfriends sister also humorously noted how much smaller, younger and slower the islanders looked playing next to the Penguins.
The only other memory i have at the coliseum is one i recall very faintly
i was very young, around 5 maybe a couple of years older. A friend of my dads had given us tickets and apparently good ole Bob Nystrom was at the game signing autographs. He autographed a little islanders hat of mine, that sit on a clothes hanger 10 feet from me as i type this. Its way too small to fit my melon sized head now, but you can still make tout the “BOB NYSTROM 23” written on the inside.
heres to hoping that we all have a helluva lot more happy memories at the new barn, and hopefully they involve playoffs :)
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by Zhora on May 16, 2011 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Unfortunately, i was there with my girlfriend and her older sister and brother and law (also an islander fan), and we basically spent half the game trying to explainining to the girls "no no no were not the bad guys, THEYRE the bad guys, we never hurt other teams i swear!!!!!"
My girlfriends sister also humorously noted how much smaller, younger and slower the islanders looked playing next to the Penguins.
Thats great!
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i almost forgot
one more happy memory (sort of)
the last home game of the season this year against the Pens
me and my friend (who btw, in everyday life, one of the nicest guys youll ever meet. Sit him down at a hockey game, and hell go absolutely friggin nuts, all without the aid as so much as a drop of alcohol) bought tickets after TNotPS, and it was a great freakin game. Even though we lost, it was still nice to see that rag-tag ass team tie the game up in the last minute, and hopefully gave us a glimpse into what hamonic will become. I also take great pleasure in the fact that i single handedly silenced a Lets Go Pens chant by starting a Pen-guins-Suck! chant (The “fact” part of this is up for debate)
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I'll miss the Coliseum
One of the Latin teachers at my high school organized trips to Isles games solely on the premise that the venue was the “Colisuem.” We went to a few games under this guise, most notably the Gillies banner one. At one of the games there was a glass shattering check and my buddy and I ran down to observe the scene. We were pushed away by security, but not before we managed to pocket several pieces of the glass. I still have mine stashed away somewhere in my parent’s house.
Fast forward a few years and I’m now about to enter senior year of high school. A few of us go to the infamous draft party where we trade away a king’s ransom for Yashin. At the time we were overjoyed and had no idea that Chara would later be insanely good. One day later the joy continued with the addition of Peca. Four of us bought half season packs for 21 games and shortly before the season was to start we discovered an Osgood under the tree. I still remember being angry at losing to the Red Wings in that first game (5-4 OT). I don’t recall exactly what, but I’m pretty sure I was justifiably angry at a missed call by the refs that would have aided the Isles. My parents were overprotective and wouldn’t let me go to the games with my three friends (something about how we all had just gotten our driver’s licenses and were too young…I’m older and understand now, but at the time I was miffed). I would get driven to the games by my mom or dad and they would hang out in the parking lot or Marriot Bar, reading or doing work (my dad makes physics). There would be occasions where I had to sell some tickets, so of the 4 bobbleheads I could have gotten, I was only able to get Bates and Laviolette, missing out on Yashin and Peca.
Our tix were at the top of a corner right against the wall, but once a dad was there on a business outing and we got to experience the game from a couple rows back of the glass. We watched an incredible 6-5 OT thriller over Montreal and the team celebrated the winning goal right in front of us.
I had thought nothing would compare to the Isles-Rags games we went to and still would have thought so as I would miss out on some playoff games. I was in a pit orchestra and had to miss the first two games due to rehearsals and performances (parents wouldn’t let me out of this, once again, I understand now). For the final game vs Toronto, I finally got to travel with my friends. We had a blast on the ride there and even more so on the way back, but the Coliseum was rocking for the entirety of the game and I could barely hear or talk at the end of it.
I’ll miss the Coliseum.
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by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on May 16, 2011 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
damnit, the Latin teacher was during jr high
I know you were all confused at this error…
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by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on May 16, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Classic
Teacher of the Year, Teacher of the Year I say!
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A doughnut with no hole is Frans Nielsen.
When I was little my mom and dad worked for what was then EAB across the street. I went to a lot of games then in the later 90s but I was really too young to remember. My best experience at the colliseum was in the 07 playoffs when we played buffalo in game 4. It was the loudest place I have ever been. Every goal the building was shaking, and it was amazing. It was also the game the refs blew a call on a goal, and everyone threw their towels and beer bottles on the ice. it was pretty funn cause when the ref got hit the place went as loud as when we scored a goal. too bad we lost that game.
by nyidangle17 on May 16, 2011 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'll give mine tomorrow...
I have a lot to choose from … so I’m going to sift through my memory bank and post tomorrow… I still hope to have a few more to add before 2015 … Like one last cup in the old barn.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on May 16, 2011 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
My Ancient Favorite NVMC Moments
The first Islanders game I went to in person – I only had radio and Channel 9 up until then – was April 30, 1977, which was Game 3 of the Stanley Cup Semi-finals against Montreal. Those were the Habs of Dryden, Lafleur, Shutt, Lemaire, Robinson, Savard, Lapointe, et al. My father (who was not a hockey fan) and I sat two rows from the ice behind the goal. (I lived – and still live – in Jersey and my dad was nice enough to take me.) The Islanders lost 4-0 and the game wasn’t really that close. But, oh, watching the flying frenchmen on the attack in person. The sound of pucks off the glass. The sound of guys crashing the boards. You couldn’t hear that on TV like you can now.
We got to the game in time for the pre-game skate. A puck flew over the glass absolutely labeled for my dad’s head. A guy in a leather jacket in front of us holding the biggest beer you can imagine calmly took his other hand out of his pocket, caught the puck before it konked my dad’s head, put the puck in his pocket, and never interrupted the conversation he was having. My dad and I just looked at each other like, are you kidding me?
Other notables:
Watching Denis Potvin’s slapper trickle through John Davidson’s pads in OT to win Game 2 of the SC semi-finals against the Rangers in 1979. IMO, the rivalry has never been more intense.
Someone throwing a baby doll on the ice before the drop of the puck in Game 3 of the SC Finals in 1983 mocking cry-baby Wayne Gretzky for his whining about Billy Smith’s slash in Game 2. To this day, many old-time Islanders fans respect, but don’t go all gaga over Gretzky. Younger fans just can’t appreciate how bitter the Islanders-Oilers rivalry was. I am determined to get to Rexhall Place before a new building gets built in Edmonton. And, yes, I’m going to wear my Billy Smith jersey.
The OT games in 1993 when you knew Ray Ferraro was going to score. And then watching that douchebag Hunter cheapshot Turgeon.
Opening Day in 2001, shortly after 9/11, with the unfurling of the giant American flag on the ice for the anthem, wearing my FDNY flying “F” jersey (which will make a re-appearance this fall God willing) watching a revived Islanders team.
Notable moment missed? Bates penalty shot. I banged my knee early in that game and it swelled up terrible. No damage, but I watched Bates shot from Nassau County Medical Center waiting for my x-rays to come back.
Best Non-Islanders Moment? Watching Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers on The Full Moon Fever Tour in ’89 from the 10th row.
by rmblifn on May 16, 2011 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
To this day, many old-time Islanders fans respect, but don’t go all gaga over Gretzky. Younger fans just can’t appreciate how bitter the Islanders-Oilers rivalry was.
I’m pretty sure that’s why I always “rooted” for Mario in that Magic vs. Bird debate. The rationalist in me liked Mario’s size, reach and versatility, but I’m pretty sure I’d have argued otherwise if I wasn’t already oriented against Wayne.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A doughnut with no hole is Frans Nielsen.
It's not so much the specific memories...
as it is the feeling i get when I go to the Coliseum.
Being 19 years old, I can only hear what you ahem older members of Isles nation care to share about the Dynasty Years. The closest I’ve been to those years was our 5 game loss to Buffalo a few years back in the first round. I have been going to games at the Coliseum for years. Even been to a few concerts there too. Personally, I love that place. I absolutely hate jumping on the “oh its the oldest, smallest, crappiest arena in the league, and they need a new building” bandwagon just because of the way that place literally shakes when we get loud. This year I made it out to three games (only because I go to school in Poughkeepsie and it’s a hike to Uniondale). I can remember something distinguishing from each game: vs the Kings, Matty Moulson’s goal against his bro-in-law, vs Buffalo, JT’s trick, and vs the Pens, the last home game, man I haven’t heard that place so loud in a while. My point here is, I haven’t seen a whole lot of success being an Islander fan in my life, and I am by no means one of the typical bandwagon NY fans who love the Yanks when they win or the Giants when they win. It is DIEHARD with the Isles. Going to a game makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up, and I’m constantly on the edge of my seat watching, and analyzing (I play goalie, so it’s habit). It’s really hard to put the feelings I have for this team into words, and especially the feelings the Coliseum gives me when I make it out to the occasional game. Looking forward to the second time around when we become a new dynasty. I’m sure gonna miss the Coliseum, but I’m curious to see what new stuff they come up with for the arena. Cheers.
by BPlaia on May 16, 2011 11:52 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Woo
Awesome. I can feel it.
I can’t believe you called all those other LHHers old :P
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A doughnut with no hole is Frans Nielsen.
These Young Fans Really Deserve Some New Memories
I really think Garth gets it on how to build a team through the draft and young talent. And for the sake of these young diehards who hear nothing but old memories of the Cup years, 1993, 2001, etc., I really hope he stays the course and creates some new memories for these younger fans who are sticking with this team. They deserve it.
The wins are much sweeter when they follow the heartbreak. Those Cups came after Lanny McDonald broke hearts in 1978 and John Davidson the same in 1979.
unfortunately it's the heartbreak that comes with Islander fan territory
but that’s not to say it wont be one of the sweetest feelings in the world when I get to rub it in all the stuck-up-for-no-reason ranger fans’ faces. My family said when Tavares got drafted, two years of pain, then we’re in. Guess what next year is…
I'm not old
Take my brain and average it out with my knees, and I’m just average-aged!
Original is rec’d, btw. An honor to see that comment go green. Welcome aboard, BP.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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unfortunately its the heartbreak that comes with Islander fan territory
but that’s not to say it wont be one of the sweetest feelings in the world when I get to rub it in all the stuck-up-for-no-reason ranger fans’ faces. My family said when Tavares got drafted, two years of pain, then we’re in. Guess what next year is…
Never got to go to The Barn, but some moments I saw that happen there through the magic of television...
Growing up in Connecticut, I had the Whalers (until…y’know…) plus, I was way too young to really grasp what was going on during the Isles Dynasty, so, my window of reference is small on great memories, being that I became an Isles fan in the late-Maloney Asshole #1 early-Milbury Asshole #2 period.
Two most prominent:
April 22, 24 and 28 1993: The back-to-back 4-3 OT wins in games 3 and 4 and the game 5 clincher: Pete shoots. Pete scores. Craps flushed.
Black mark from Fuckface Hunter’s cheap shot that followed the GWG.
However, without Pete, it only made the next one more satisfying…
May 12, 1993:
On the brink of elimination, the Isles come home to face the Pengos and Stupor Mario and Ronnie Franchise and Jaromir “Sally” Jagr and Crack Pipe Kevin and Wayne Gretzky’s Bookie Rick Tochet the whole gang.
You remember, the guys that were supposed to win it all that year?
With the Pengos up 3 games to 2, and hot on the heels a 6-3 beating in Pittsburgh, the series came back to Nassau for what was supposed to be the end of the road for the Pierre Turgeon-less Isles.
And then Steve Thomas scored two goals and added two assists en route to a 7-5 Islanders victory.
Two days later, the Isles went back to The ‘Gloo and ended the Stupid, Flightless, Aquatic Water Foul’s quest for a third straight Cup with a 4-3 OT victory.
But it was the big win in Nassau that made it possible.
Yeah, I’m counting the ’93 playoffs as one moment, because those were truly the fondest memories I have that occurred at The Barn.
Number 2?
That’s easy.
The Brawl to End It All: February 11, 2011.
First, the Isles beat the Dirty Birds at hockey.
THEN, they just beat them.
Mike Haley going Rampaging Hulk on all challengers. Matt Martin’s refusal to let Maxine Talbot walk away from an asskicking a long time coming. Zeke making Talbot his woman. Even Trev’s devolution into borderline sociopath on the Tangradi hit. No, Tangradi didn’t deserve it, but call it collateral damage in a game that devolved into a war…the German-Polish war of 1939 to be exact.
Sweet, tasty vengeance never tasted so sweet and tasty all at once…
Ya ever seen Frans Nielsen’s eyes, Chief? Those…cold…black…lifeless eyes, like a dolls eyes…
1993
When I look back on the sequence of games in both Washington and Pittsburgh series, it’s a wonder I survived that roller coaster. Hot damn, what games, what scores. Repeatedly coming back to tie the Pens series…it all almost slipping away at the end of Game 7. Thinking about it all still raises the hair on my neck.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A doughnut with no hole is Frans Nielsen.
Remember that scene in Goodfellas?
Where Hood’s in the shower and hears about the Lufthansa Heist on the radio?
End of Game 7 of the Isles/Pengos series, THAT was pretty much my reaction.
16 years old and screaming hysterically in my living room.
My dad, who had no idea what was going on, but knew this much, that I was making waaay too much racket, told me to pipe down from the top of the stairs.
The only thing better than the win was collecting from all the kids at school who were willing to take the Pens in that series.
I was getting five to one. Five to one! 25 one dollar bets, spread out around the school, all paying 5 to 1? Fat. City.
Ya ever seen Frans Nielsen’s eyes, Chief? Those…cold…black…lifeless eyes, like a dolls eyes…
by BrassBonanza10 on May 17, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
For me..
I never got to see the glory years of the Islanders live, so it would have to be Pink Floyd’s “The Wall” tour in 1980. They only performed it in two venues (LA colliseum and Nassau) in the United States which made it pretty special. It was the second concert I ever attended (the first being Queen). After going to some 100 concerts in my lifetime, this was one of the most awe inspiring shows I’ve ever seen.
This just in: DP to attend Ed Hospidar School for Fisticuffs, film at 11
by Timtropolis on May 17, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Late to the Party
Just seeing this thread … but oh my, where to begin…
I haven’t lived on Long Island in 20 years (and I’m 40) … but the NVMC is simply “home” … there’s no other way to describe it. Dump or not, it’s home – and no matter how long I’ve been away, when I come back, it’s still home. I actually hadn’t been in the place for probably 15 years until this past season, when I was able to get to 5 games … and so it was particularly nostalgic for me. The memories are soaked into the stink of that place. And it gives me chills to look up and look around.
My earliest memories are actually Nets games, other than 1 Islanders game in 1975 against the Caps – Ron Low played goal for the Caps, and I remember it because his name seemed funny. I was 4 1/2 years old. But otherwise, my dad took me to a bunch of Nets games – and to this day, even though basketball is my least favorite of the major sports, Dr. J is still my favorite athlete of all time. I have vivid memories of watching the Nets at the Coliseum, even though I was 6. My dad took me to a game where Wilt Chamberlain was coaching the San Diego Conquistadors. No matter how young, how do you forget that?
After that, I saw a bunch of Arrows MISL games as well — Shep Messing in goal, Luis Alberto (who was Carlos Alberto, of the Cosmos, brother), Steve Zungal, Branko Segota, those are the names I remember.
My next Isles game wasn’t until the last game of the regular season, 1980, against the Rangers. I remember Ranger fans being in our section chanting “J.D.” – and Isles fans saying “Sucks” .. and me joining in, and my dad reprimanding me for saying a bad word.
After that – I went to many games, here and there, throughout the ’80s. My only playoff game was Game 4 in 1987 against the Caps, which they lost – going down 3-1 in the series. And from there, of course, they won it, capped off by the Easter game.
The concerts are probably some of my biggest memories … the second show I ever saw was Def Leppard/Tesla, 1987 … tremendous show. I saw Heart there later that year … and then David Lee Roth/Poison … and many others. In 1989, I saw Cinderella there, and we went backstage to hang with the band, because I had met the lead singer’s sister in college. (Cinderella is playing Irving Plaza in a couple months, and I plan on going to see them for the first time in 22 years)
I also saw the U.S. Olympic team play a warmup game there in 1988 against a Soviet B team. How that 1988 team didn’t go farther, I have no idea. It had Janney, Leetch, Richter, Kevin Stevens, Ted Drury, and others I’m not remembering at the moment.
I will miss the place – no doubt. But if it means the Islanders staying put, and coming back around with a winning product, then I’ll take a new arena any day.
by Arbourisgod on May 17, 2011 12:44 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
By the way...
… I meant to say that I believe 1993 was Arbour’s best coaching job, particularly against the Pens. Everyone expected them to sit back in a shell to try to contend with Pittsburgh’s firepower – but instead, the Isles took it right to ‘em – and just outscored them. What a friggin’ treat that whole season was. That was a damn fun team to watch.
by Arbourisgod on May 17, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
No doubt
And I enjoy to this day that he got the best of Scotty Bowman. I know they’re friends, but Bowman always came off as a bit of a pompous ass, while Arbour was way more down-to-earth — and still quite good.
Or put it this way: Bowman’s ex-players don’t quite call him a father figure.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A doughnut with no hole is Frans Nielsen.
Memories of the Old Barn
I guess i am like many of you no longer live on the Island but keep the torch burning for the Isles no matter where we might live. I have a lot of great memories of the coliseum but here are my favorites.
I think it goes without saying the 93 season was the one i remember the best. I must have gone to a dozen games that year to include all the playoff games. I have been to a bunch of games in LA, Anahiem, Tamoa Bay, and MSG but no place rocks like the coliseum when the Isles are winning. That place sounds like it might crumble some nights from the sound of the crowd! In 93 i was loving every minute of the Caps win and the Pittsburgh Miracle, it was awesome.
Pretty much every Islanders/Ranger game before 94 was epic because we had the ultimate chant in “1940” No matter the score or the dumb chants of Potvin Sucks you could always shut up a Rags fan with 1940! I miss those days.
And finally my Dad and I had season tickets to the New York Saints for like 3 or 4 seasons in a row, we sat in section 203 behind the penalty boxes and those games were awesome. I won a jersey contest one game and got to be out on the field before the game, It was cool to be on the field/ice that the greats played on.
I will miss the old barn greatly, but we can start new traditions and the new place if it really happens!
Some add'l mems...
Zen mentioned the ol’ “1940” chant…man that was fucking awesome…in 1993, as a first year fan, with the 4 Cup banners in my team’s rafters, I felt like the luckiest fan in the world against those evil, corporate, gutless Rangers (I was 16)…
“19-NEVER” against the Devs was fun too…that chant was also taken from us :-(
Darius Kasparaitis…I must say he was the reason I even looked in hockey’s direction. I just wasn’t much of a sports guy then (NERD), my dad tried to get me into it when Patty La was on the team, but it wouldn’t stick… then I saw Kaspar the Un-friendly Ghost – he didn’t care who you were, or whether you were a future HOF’er, if he could hip check you and flip your skates above your head, he fuckin would! Da-ri-us!!! Da-ri-us!! He was why I first went to games…
Then I started to understand the game…King-Turgeon-Thomas…what an honor it was to watch that line play together.
THEN, when the playoffs began against the Caps that year I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE GAME…Overtime heroes…Chicken Parm Ferraro deking Beaupre with ease on a breakaway…Kasparaitis flooring #66, then Lemieux giving Kaspy that funny look like, “Are you really going after ME that hard??” Yeah mother f*cker he WAS!!…then I got in a car accident, was stuck in the hospital for 11 days, got to watch the Toronto Maple Leafs-LA Kings series from my hospital bed, but COMPLETELY MISSED the Habs series and the Isles losing (Yes I blame myself for losing that series)[oh, and wow, Dougie Gilmour…WOW]
Last, but not least, the Booster Club in section 333, with their cat-calls to referees like Paul Stewart, “Hey Stewart, youuuuu suck!!!!!” LMAO I loved those guys…
“Gimme an I!!
I!!
Gimme an S!!
S!!!
Gimme an L!!
L!!
Gimme an A!!
A!!
Gimme an N!!
N!!
Gimme a D!!
D!!
Gimme an E!!
E!!
Gimme an R!!
R!!
Gimme an S!!
S!!
What’s that spell?!!?!
ISLANDERS-LET’S GO ISLANDERS!!
<clap, clap, clap-clap-clap>
[then the whole fuckin place erupted…epic]
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
by Bryan2112 on May 19, 2011 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

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