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Before the Penguins Finale: A Primer of 2010-11 Islanders Grievances

Who doesn't love Grabs' big cheesy smile?

Following the Islanders 9-3 destruction of the Penguins Feb. 11, somehow the national media didn't see it like Isles fans. Instead of seeing it as turning the corner on a tough season with a rout of a division rival (well before the fights started), or even an oft-beat-up team finally standing up for each other after absorbing "liberties" from opponents, the prevailing narrative had the suddenly goonish Islanders deciding to jump the poor innocent Penguins for no good reason. The team that everyone felt sorry for was now the poster boy for Slap Shot hockey.

It was hardly mentioned how the Penguins twice sent Islanders on breakaways crashing into Brent Johnson and the net. It was only by dumb luck that Kyle Okposo or Michael Grabner -- not to mention Johnson himself -- weren't seriously injured. Also not mentioned was Jack Hillen's concussion, which was partially caused by Eric Tangradi's shot on him moments before the big melee in the third ignited by Trevor Gillies.

On the season the Islanders have gotten the short end of the stick time and time again. Even with Gillies and Zenon Konopka, teams have taken physical advantage of the mostly younger smaller Islanders. It seems as though people forgot there was a time when the Penguins traded for former Isles player and current staffer Eric Cairns in order to protect Sidney Crosby. In his 450 game career Cairns had nearly 1200 PIM to go along with 42 points. Viewing that night as a one-sided assault ignore the reality of the current Penguins, who led the NHL in PIM at the time* of the Friday Fight Fest, who make use of Matt Cooke, and have goon Eric Godard along with tough guys Deryk Engelland and Michael Rupp.

Following the jump, a video rundown of teams abusing Islander players this season, which juuust might hint at why Islanders players don't rely on Colin Campbell's office to discipline their assailants anymore.

Star-divide

*Currently the Penguins are now second in PIM behind the Islanders, largely thanks to the Islanders somehow accumulating nine more 10-minute misconducts (26) than the next team (Edmonton, which has 17).

It Started in the Preseason

After trying to check Nino Niederreiter and failing, Mike Cammalleri decided to teach the rookie a lesson and slashed him. The first slash to Nino's face wasn't enough for him though, as he proceeded to go chasing after him and give him another slash to the ankle. Cammalleri was suspended, for all of one game.

It Gets Ridiculous 9 Days Later

Going after a promising youngster and slashing him multiple times is worthy of a one game suspension. But somehow making an "obscene gesture" at Sean Avery is twice as worse. At least according to the NHL Wheel Of Justice, which spins rather randomly.

4 Days Later and 3 Cooke runs on Rick DiPietro

Maybe it's a legitimate strategy, given that DiPietro was coming off two seasons in which he played 13 total NHL games. But somehow Matt Cooke found himself crashing (or sending Isles crashing) into DiPietro three different times in one game. No Suspension.

Briere Takes Out the Goon Nielsen

Danny Briere stands up and flat out cross checks Frans Nielsen off the faceoff in the final minute of a game that was already over. Briere would later claim that Frans said something he didn't like. Even more amazing was that Frans was given a major and tossed from the game -- add another to the misconduct tally -- along with Briere. Briere was given all of a 2 game suspension for this play.

Gervais Stops White's Fist With His Face

Colin White nails PA Parenteau from behind sending him face first into the boards. You can see on the video Bruno Gervais raising his hand to question the ref why nothing was called. When nothing is called, Bruno probably makes one of his worst decisions of the year to take matters into his own hands.

Talbot Concusses Comeau

One of the two big events in the game before the big brawl for the Islanders and Penguins. The hit might be borderline, but considering that Blake Comeau had released the puck and turned toward his own zone when Talbot blindsided him, causing a concussion that would keep him out of the lineup for 10 days, you can see why the Islanders were upset.

Cooke Buzzes DP Again, Pens Have A Laugh

The other big event leading up to the big brawl, Cooke again runs DP. Johnson takes exception to it and leaves the crease -- again, contrary to the popular narrative that DP invited it all, Johnson was quoted after the game saying he'd looked forward to a reason to fight -- leading to a fight between him and DP. After beating DP, Johnson -- tossed from the game for leaving the crease -- is shown laughing it up with Marc Andre Fleury and other Penguins on the way out.

The Brawl Game

Amazingly ignored following this game was that Brooks Oprik sent two different Islanders barreling into Johnson and the net and only dumb luck kept everyone from getting hurt. I'm amazed at the Penguins announcer, who claims that Okposo's momentum took him into Johnson. Anyone with eyes can tell that Okposo was trying to stop for a few steps and only continued forward due to the friendly push of the Pen player. I also couldn't find any video of the Tangradi hit on Hillen unfortunately.

Clutterbuck Nails DiBenedetto from Behind, But Gillies Does the Time

Justin DiBenedetto playing in his second NHL game and standing at a whole 6' 195 pounds is nailed in a dangerous hit by Cal Clutterbuck. The ensuing hit by Gillies who was coming off his suspension made all the headlines, and the mob came out with pitchforks after him. Thankfully there were some national media out there willing to point out that the Clutterbuck hit was just as dangerous. In the end Gillies gets another suspension and Clutterbuck gets off scott free.

Gaborik Nails Nielsen

Marian Gaborik nails Frans Nielsen from behind into the boards. The concussion Nielsen suffers finishes off his season. Amazingly (or not, if you've read to this point) Gaborik does not get a suspension.

There's other hits too, but it's tough to find them unless they lead to a fight. But the idea that the Islanders are this great big team full of nothing but goons is wrong. I think Mike did an excellent job of summing up the problem with the NHL. The uneven enforcement of the rules by the NHL is what leads to these reactions. Why trust the league will take care of things instead of handling things yourself?

The NHL has handed out a total of 13 games worth of suspensions for Islanders Opponents. Of that 13, 10 was part of Eric Godard's automatic for leaving the bench. But even an automatic isn't automatic for Isles opponents. Leaving the bench is supposed to include a fine for the team and a 2 game suspension for the coach. Both of these penalties were waived while the Islanders were fined 100K for being unable to control their players in the same game.

(Thanks to Keith, Dom and Mike who helped me remember some of these, and to Matty Clausen and ESD714 who helped me out via twitter)

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Another B.S. narrative: The Flyers game

Rewatching those clips reminded me of another B.S. narrative from this season: That DiPietro “challenged Pronger” to fight in that Flyers game. Not even close. After Briere and Carcillo tag-team jumped Nielsen at the faceoff, DP went after Briere. As everyone stepped in, Pronger intervened and kept DP from getting at anyone.

On the evening highlights people see DP and Pronger together and think, “Haha, stupid DP going after Pronger,” when in reality DP was going after the spineless fool who’d just crosschecked Nielsen in the face.

Amazing what people will buy based on a soundbite without researching the context.

Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.

by Dominik on Apr 7, 2011 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

From his time in buffalo, i can say that Briere is by far the dirtiest skill player currently in the league. Don’t get near him in scrums!

Note: this statement was constructed prior to Corey Perry being skilled at things other than running goalies.

On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
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by Ubiquitous on Apr 7, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, I hear that more and more even from Flyers and Sabres fans

That’s wild. And THN just did a flowery profile of him.

/still giggling at the Perry line, by the way.

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by Dominik on Apr 7, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Frans

Has been on the short end in a lot of situations this year. He also got jumped by Ruutu before a Gillies fight in Ottawa, and I know there’s been more situations I’m not remembering.

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by Mark D on Apr 7, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

Why won’t the NHL protect players like Frans? The teams involved should be irrelevant when it comes to quality players. What exactly is going on there?

by Paumanok on Apr 7, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will be at the game tomorrow.

I hope to see the vast majority of this sell out crowd to be wearing Islanders
Blue and Orange. Im looking forward to it, but for some reason i feel this
game will be some what subdued.
Go Isles!

by The Danish Backhand of Judgement on Apr 7, 2011 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

My gf and I are also going

and both her and I feel the same way. It will be subdued and the refs will be more antsy than usual.

Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.

by meigs1414 on Apr 7, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be there with my brother

I only wish we didn’t have a shell of a team left, but it’ll be good to give the Isles a sold out send off

by MLong86 on Apr 7, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too with three other isles fans

I was thinking about wearing my old pens Jersey and getting a kids turtle shell backpack to wear and tape talbots name to it, any thoughts?

Patience will prevail, if not...

by Hockey2219 on Apr 8, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

im going with a buddy

ill have my streit jersey on, i better not see more than 20 freakin black jerseys in the building

"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992

by Zhora on Apr 7, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Their wearing special shirts

That say “Bury Gillies”. They tried to get like 3 sections. You could probably find their rally on Pensblog.com

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by Keith Quinn on Apr 7, 2011 6:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

They're

Stupid headache ruining my spelling/grammar.

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by Keith Quinn on Apr 7, 2011 6:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You guys

Should make “welcome Pensblog” signs and hang them on the Coliseum fences outside.

Or big brown sheets shaped like mustaches

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by Keith Quinn on Apr 7, 2011 6:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Someone

should go offer some “friendly” words of advice that you can park for free right across the street and NCC.

by afrosupreme on Apr 7, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man

They are amped up. Going to be looking for trouble. This could end up like an old time Rangers/Isles game when there were more fights in the stands than on the ice. And not due to a shortage of fights on the ice.

by afrosupreme on Apr 7, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great idea!

Although the “Welcome Pensblog” would have to be a Crayon drawing.

Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.

by Dominik on Apr 7, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

you have my permission

To use my “Going Gillies” picture when I get it up on my home blog… I grew out the fu manchu to amp up my team in our final.

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Apr 7, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, sweet

It would take me eight months without shaving to even tip people off to the private fear that I was attempting to go Gillies.

Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.

by Dominik on Apr 7, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

since im not going to the game

I’ll go harass them on the Cross Bronx since that’s where they’ll be for 3 hours

Intently glued to every COZO

by Chris McNally on Apr 7, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

i better not see more than 20 freakin black jerseys in the building

Pens fans travel well- and its not like they are that far either- so if thats how you feel, prepare to be disappointed.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Apr 7, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you sure those aren't just all the bandwagon fans?

Giggly Crosby puckbunnies and people who think the retro jerseys are like so kewl… Faugh!

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Apr 7, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's 8 hours

Just between Pittsburgh and Philly, and at least 3 hours (not considering traffic) to get to the Coliseum from here.

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by Mark D on Apr 8, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but its Friday.

Ive gone to Pittsburgh a couple of times for concerts on Fri & Sat nights.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Apr 8, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pburgh to Philly

is only 4.5 hours (my wife’s from Pburgh and we used to live in Philly). But you wouldn’t go through Philly. You take 81 to 78. It’s about 6 hours to Jersey City, and then of course anywhere from 45 minutes to 7 hours to the Coliseum from there :).

These guys are serious about it though:

http://www.thepensblog.com/pensblog-news/tpb/nyi-invasion-travel-information.html

I wish I could be there just for that, but I’m sure there’s more than enough people ready to show them a good time.

by afrosupreme on Apr 8, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, there was a good dose of Pens fans at the Home Opener for Tavares’ first NHL game.

Lots of them were very cool. Only took a couple of combative drunk ones to put all of them on the defensive.

Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.

by Dominik on Apr 8, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

It isn’t that far and it is a straight shot on the Tpke.
For me going home to visit from Pittsburgh to Wantagh is 7 1/2 hours.

Native LI'er living in the land of Black & Gold.

by JW1970 on Apr 8, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Update a bit

Raffi Torres got 4 games for his hit the other night

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=-7&id=106828

Once again asking the question, is the Torres hit a 4 game suspension while the Gaborik hit is nothing?

Or is it because Gaborik is a star while Torres is a 3rd liner?

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by Mark D on Apr 7, 2011 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

A resounding..

YES.

It’s the NHL haves and have-nots. Or to be more accurate, the importants and unimportants.

I said this in another thread, if the NHL is going to act like a league full of bullies, eliminate 14 teams and keep the playoff format the same. Every team will always make the playoffs and there will be less reason to judge unfairly (though I’m sure more reasons will crop up).

I’ve never wished for a plague on anyone more than those who run the NHL.

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Apr 7, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

David Clayton-Thomas should be proud!

Plus, he’d stand to receive royalties if you actually RECORDED this…..

by ogam5 on Apr 7, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, he *is* Canadian, after all

Seemed appropriate. But keep my singing voice away from the general public AT ALL COSTS.

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Apr 7, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Almost pointed that out myself.....

….but nothing to say he’s not a LEAFS fan or something, either! Actually, I do a decent karaoke version of this song…..been a long while since, though

by ogam5 on Apr 8, 2011 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, surely this must get rec'd green

(Now stop calling me Shirley)

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 7, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome Mike...

rec’d for K-billy sounds of the seventies awesomeness!

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by JPinVA on Apr 7, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm glad to see he got something serious

But where is the consistancy?

You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?

by Anarcurt on Apr 7, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also: Headshots are the new black

Or rather, where once checking from behind was the big no-no, now the heashot focus seems to make that an afterthought (even when, shock, a check from behind damages the head). Cooke’s check from behind on Tyutin seemed to be more about a chance to suspend him for his record, so his next headshot got the book thrown at him.

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by Dominik on Apr 7, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Checking from Behind

I am extremely pissed off about this Torres thing because this Clifford hit on Tanev last week received a whopping ZERO games in suspension.
Where is the consistency.

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by Semi_Colon on Apr 7, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Was thinking the same thing

It’s as if the NHL can only think about one issue at a time.

(Come to think of it, from the times I’ve watched Colie speak on discipline, that doesn’t seem such a remote possibility.)

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by Dominik on Apr 7, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vile hit

It’s like Colie doesn’t write anything down and then has no reference point. Some fine paper and a fountain pen would be a great gift idea.

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by Keith Quinn on Apr 7, 2011 6:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

"think" and "the NHL"?

???

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Apr 7, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

To understand the NHL disciplinary system....

… you must think in 12 dimensions, understand String Theory, and be really, REALLY drunk.

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 7, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

IJA:OSLDIJUHA:KUJ@$H@Q:UJK@@!

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by Semi_Colon on Apr 7, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't foget

The punch to the mouth Frans took in Buffalo with a ref and linesmen looking on. No call!!!!!!!!!!!!

by IslesinAZ on Apr 7, 2011 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

That's right....

…. and it was the very next game after the Bloodfest.

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 7, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that started

The string of BS misconducts when Hamonic also got hit in the head, tried to fight the offender (Kaleta?Gaustad?) and was tossed for chirping.

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by Keith Quinn on Apr 8, 2011 5:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, but who would sanction such an obvious study?

That’s like a study on “We need air to breathe!” or “Fish cannot live out of water for very long” or “Butch Goring has some trouble with words now and then.”

by Les Beaver on Apr 7, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if Okposo is that kind of player!

As replay shows an ice shower as Okposo tries to stop and he is clearly pushed forward by Oprik.

Until I watched that replay a few times, I didn’t realize that both times it was Oprik sending Isles into Johnson.

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by Mark D on Apr 7, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was really a bogus call

The guy tried to catch himself on the crossbar after Oprik nailed him and he still got called for goalie interference. Way to keep in front of the game, refs.

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by mikb on Apr 7, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

I totally forgot KO got a goalie interference call on that play. I think Pittsburgh FSN realized rather quickly that KO was obviously trying to stop and decided to cut to commercial after that first replay.

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by Mark D on Apr 7, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Home team announcers will almost always do that.

But these two take the cake. Or the turd.

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 7, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I worked in PITT for a few months a couple years ago...

And the whole city is clueless about other teams outside their city. It’s like they live under a bubble. Trying to discuss your team with them is useless.

That, and those ridiculously grey skies that made me long for the blue skies of the southeast.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Apr 8, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shit! You had to remind me.....

That is who I have the Displeasure of listening to for tonights feature. UGH

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by JW1970 on Apr 8, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The NHL Wheel of Justice

…Or flowchart rather.
Campbell’s Brain
All layed out for your confused convenience.

All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.

by pippup on Apr 7, 2011 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I have come to conclude that

Howie Rose is the best announcer of all time. Screw other announcers.

by edavidmorris on Apr 7, 2011 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Not that I particularly care.

Jiggs is better. He’s a delight to listen to.

by Fabtraption on Apr 7, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to sound like an infidel, but...

… there have been a few times this year when I thought the Isles were clearly in the wrong, and Howie/Butchie defended them. All announcers can be like that. A wise man once said that anything can be true, “from a certain point of view.”

But, yeah, the Pens announcers really drank the Cool Aid.

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 7, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are hereby

exiled! Dissenters will not be tolerated!

KIdding of course. I think even if you read the Strang and NY Post articles today even the Isles knew they were wrong but also knew things had to be done anyway.

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by Keith Quinn on Apr 7, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the very least Buthie apologized for claiming that Tangardi was turtling after he watched the replay and realized he was injured. The whole “Go Back in your cage Gillies” and “The Islanders are an Embarrassment to the NHL” might have been a tad over the line.

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by Mark D on Apr 7, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, yes, I’m not talking about that game. I meant in general for the year.

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 7, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, the Islanders announcers are definitely homers

And everyone is. But Errey and Steigertool take it to the nth degree, and add a level of arrogance to their normal commentary that’s just intolerable.

I could go through that 9-3 game alone and find 100 offenses of absolute delusion. Though Errey saying, “Oh here we go, Haley sought Talbot out” when Talbot clearly grabbed Haley from behind in the scrum and then had a ruh-roh-didn’t-mean-that moment was what stood out to me.

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by Dominik on Apr 7, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome Job Webby

Some major work putting those clips together. Great job. Thanks.

by afrosupreme on Apr 7, 2011 6:26 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I love it when WebBard posts one of these...

…and it has eleventy billion recs before I even finish reading it.

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by Dominik on Apr 7, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks to everyone

For the love!

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by Mark D on Apr 7, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

you deserve it

Takes a lot of effort to get all the clips lined up. And now folks can finally one-stop shop to see what the blazes we’ve been flipping our shit about for two solid seasons.

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by mikb on Apr 7, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyon know???

If you order the center ice package, can you watch archived games or is it just live stuff? I’d get that, go into the archives and tape with my phone to chronicle the nonsense.

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by Keith Quinn on Apr 7, 2011 6:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

If you mean the TV package, I can’t say, but if you mean gamecenter live (i.e. the package for watching games online), then yes, you can watch archived games.

by andrew430 on Apr 7, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I mean

I was thinking of making myself a supercomputer with multiple monitors like I’m in the war room in Toronto.

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by Keith Quinn on Apr 7, 2011 7:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yes

I have Gamecenter, and you can watch archived games. Even all the classic ones

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by Semi_Colon on Apr 7, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's how I watch

2 23" montiers with LHH on one and the game on the other. The only downside is the lag, I can usually tell when we score by all the new post.

by IslesinAZ on Apr 7, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have center ice

It’s just live games. and only if they aren’t blacked out on versus which happens from time to time. although you also get nhl network which plays old games pretty often.

by 54_Fighting on Apr 7, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

overall i’d say if your a huge fan of hockey in general it’s worth it. I really love watching teams like vancouver play, they just seem to be so much more fluid than all the rest. actually i’d say from watching west coast games, the game is much faster paced in general, it’s amazing the East ever wins the Cup!

by 54_Fighting on Apr 7, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Center Ice ruined my life

And it feels soooooo good.

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by Dominik on Apr 7, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I never heard the announcer

“Briere “comes a little high” on Nielsen" Then comes Carcillo in the back. " Then they get a standing ovation and salute the crowd. Dbags.

by ghalbart on Apr 7, 2011 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I was at that game

With a minute left in the final period, the Islanders down by 5, the place was going INSANE

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by Mark D on Apr 7, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

First line out for both games should be

Gillies, Haley, Martin

Just start a brawl at the beginning of the game.

by ghalbart on Apr 7, 2011 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

If Cappy started the 4th line

They’d all get immediate 10 minute misconducts and Cappy would get a bench minor for unsportsmanlike conduct

Intently glued to every COZO

by Chris McNally on Apr 7, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably

a fine for not being able to control his players.

by afrosupreme on Apr 7, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

take out the refs from the beginning to

Might as well have Penguins and Flyers Jerseys on anyways…..

by ghalbart on Apr 7, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Isles should come out with Blackhawk jerseys on.

Maybe the NHL won’t notice and will treat the Isles differently…

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Apr 7, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

And then the Pens would put out THEIR goons, and they'll take all the liberties they want.

And all the while, they’ll be waiving to the Isles fourth liners in the box.

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 7, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there a division as hated as the Atlantic Division?

Seriously, the Devils, Rangers, Penguins, and Flyers are all extremely hated by Islanders fans.

Hell, even as a Mets fan, I don’t hate the Nationals all that much in comparison to the Atlantic teams in the NHL.

by Fabtraption on Apr 7, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate the Nationals...

for moving the Montreal Expos to become another team that perpetually sucks.

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Apr 7, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

....because the Expos were good...?

I mean, they were a pretty terrible team. The last good player they had was Vladimir Guerrero, and before that, Andre Dawson. The Expos are responsible for giving us the following things:

1) Youppi

2) General Manager Omar Minaya (he worked as GM for the Expos before he came back to the Mets

3) Awesome jerseys

by Fabtraption on Apr 8, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

the 'spos were better than the Nats are ever likely to be

Besides Hawk, they had Gary Carter and Tim Raines and Tim Wallach, they briefly had Randy Johnson and Mark Langston, they put Pedro Martinez on the map (check out his 1997 season, holy crap), and they had Steve Rogers, Bill Gullickson, and Dennis Martinez. They put together some good teams back in the day.

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by mikb on Apr 8, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm only conscious of the Expos in the 90s and 2000s

Growing up, they were pretty terrible. Of course, so were the Mets….

by Fabtraption on Apr 8, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Downfall of the Expos

Was the year the Strike ended the season early. They had an insanely good record and would have made some decent money if there had been playoffs.

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by Mark D on Apr 8, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Dammit, Webby!

Now I’m not going to sleep tonight. Too much tiger blood in my veins!

(Thanks!)

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 7, 2011 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm keeping those in Canes Country company while the Thrashers-Rangers game is going on.

If you have nothing else to do, why don’t you join us? Tonight, we’re all Thrashers fans!

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 7, 2011 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Is liking what the Thrashers are doing to the Rags tonight

and to make it even better, Schremp scored the 1st goal on a laser shot lol

James T Paulson

by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 7, 2011 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Good for Schrempy

As long as it’s against anybody but us. I’m still sour about that game last month in which he scored the GWG.

by Fabtraption on Apr 8, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Webby...tremendous post...

If the definition of art is something that inspires emotion… you, sir, are an ARTEEEST!

I think the worst part of all of that are the announcers, especially the Pittsburg crew. I’ll be there tomorrow trying to start a two hour HOOOO-BEEEEE BAAAAY-KEEEEEER chant. I think would give $1000 to charity if the PITT crew would let me chuck 2 dozen eggs at them between periods. (From about 15 feet)

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by JPinVA on Apr 7, 2011 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Brock Nelsen taken off on a stretcher.

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 7, 2011 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Shoulder to shoulder hit as he was flying towards the end boards.

He fell awkwardly and skidded back-first into the boards. Didn’t look terrible, but he didn’t move much for a while. He was moving a bit when they were taking him off. Eyes were open and he didn’t seem horrified.

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 7, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pain is in his back.

Being taken to a hospital for x-rays. He was moving all limbs, though.

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 7, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just fanshotted the video

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by Keith Quinn on Apr 7, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nelson Injury

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by Keith Quinn on Apr 7, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing back spasms

Which I’ve had several times in my life, and they ain’t pretty. I was once stuck on a floor for 6 hours because I couldn’t get up (cue the Life Alert commercials).

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 7, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've fallen and I can't get up

Always thought it funny that comercial was out for about 4 years before that catch phrase caught on.

As far as a head injury goes it looks like he might have whacked his occipital lobe against the boards. That’s the section of the brain that controls your vision. Wonder if he’s having window pane vision.

by Chickendirt on Apr 7, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's life before the Internet for ya

Isn’t that wild? I wonder what it was that finally sent that from daytime TV commercial to popular punchline.

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by Dominik on Apr 7, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saturday Night Live, perhaps?

I don’t remember for sure.

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 7, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Had to be a comedian or comedy show of some sort

Memory is foggy.

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by Dominik on Apr 7, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was in bed for like 2 weeks

May/June last year. Awful and completely debilitating and exhausting all of the time. It absolutely sucks.

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by Keith Quinn on Apr 7, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was in bed about as long, a few years ago.

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 7, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nelson

I put up a separate post about it, partly as search-engine whoring but also partly ‘cause I can see it commanding some conversation into tomorrow. It’s not often I’m at the computer when actual breaking news happens!

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by Dominik on Apr 7, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

3-0 Thrashers.

Now comes the scary part. Same score the Bruins were up by.

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 7, 2011 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Game over - the Hurricanes now control their destiny.

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 7, 2011 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

How can the Rangers flail that badly?

And how could the Bruins let them back in?

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by Dominik on Apr 7, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

They just didn't look good tonight.

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 7, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rags last game against Jersey should be good.

Carolina has Atlanta and Tampa as their final two opponents.

Looking at the standing it looks like the Atlantic is taking over where the SE division left off. Rags get bounced only two teams from the Atlantic make the post season. THree from the SE make it in.

In a sense this is good news for us. Shows that the ceiling to break out in the division is not that high. Then again, never know what Jersey will pull off over the summer.

by Chickendirt on Apr 7, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love it

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by Semi_Colon on Apr 7, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no idea who this is

#Isles have called up defenseman Jamie Doornbosch of the Kitchener Rangers. Looks like Hillen won’t play then
web • 4/8/11 9:55 AM

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by Keith Quinn on Apr 8, 2011 10:27 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Link

OHL defenseman Jamie Doornbosch arrives, presumably to play on NHL ATO, Jack Hillen unlikely (shoulder) tinyurl.com/3da8ofp
web • 4/8/11 10:08 AM

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by Keith Quinn on Apr 8, 2011 10:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He has an unfortunately low number of PIMS. I would have hoped if they were bringing someone in for one or two games, they would have brought in someone looking to make a name for himself with the fists for tonight.

by afrosupreme on Apr 8, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see this Bidlevskii kid

that’s at BPT. Two knockouts in two fights.

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by Keith Quinn on Apr 8, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

wait until the end of the night

I’m sure he’ll either have his first NHL fight, or his first NHL concussion. And it will be ALL HIS FAULT because the ISLANDERS imported an OHL GOON ZOMGPIMP ! ! ! ! one two ! ! !

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by mikb on Apr 8, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man

I really wish I could be there tonight. The Pensblog dopes are coming in looking for trouble. Check the comments:

http://www.thepensblog.com/pensblog-news/tpb/twitter-contest-tpbinvasion.html

Do they have any idea what they are walking into? I know hockey crowds aren’t what they one were, but these guys are lambs to the slaughter if the Coliseum crowd tonight is 50% of its former ass-whomping self.

by afrosupreme on Apr 8, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

i expect increased police presence in the stands

And, in the end, probably something like the end of this clip.

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by mikb on Apr 8, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Classic clip!

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by Dominik on Apr 8, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I realllllly wish I could

have come home for this game!!!!!!!!

Native LI'er living in the land of Black & Gold.

by JW1970 on Apr 8, 2011 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

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