Sunday Links: 'Because these kids are hopped up on sugar' edition.
by Keith Quinn on Apr 24, 2011 9:22 AM EDT
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A news item many of us missed this week was NHL disciplinarian Colin Cambell's *appearance* on The Best of Cybulski & Compa on TSN Radio 1050. Lighthouse Hockey will have more on the podcast tomorrow and we have plans for a roundtable (translated: we don't have it scheduled yet, but we're getting there!) Flashlight Radio segment on the interview. In short, Campbell begins the interview immediately on the offensive regarding the criticism of disciplinary actions and he continues to be condescending, confrontational, combative and at times, uses inappropriate language. It is the first time he goes from "hapless bungler" to "you want me on that wall...you need me on that wall!" Is this the beginning of the end of his tenure or just a blip on the screen for the man the NHL has, to this date, propped up and backed as a good man with a good heart with a difficult job? Questions and comments are welcome and may be used on the air and addressed in the Flashlight Episode 3. After the jump, links to ignore your family with.
New York Rangers keep John Tortorella with new deal, report says - ESPN New York
According to the New York Post, Rangers coach John Tortorella has signed what is believed to be a three-year extension to remain behind the bench.
Happy Birthday Frans Nielsen! (Team Tweet)
Campbell goes on tirade - The Globe and Mail
NHL disciplinarian gets in shouting match during TSN Radio appearance Wednesday night.
The NHL's Goal Horns, In Order | The Awl
Finally, you can wake your wife/husband/children pretending Tavares scored.
Looking at Defensive Forwards - Behind The Net
Rob Vollman (The same guy who created the "Goaltending Quality Start" metric) looks at defensive forwards.
Former Isles in Stanley Cup Playoffs - New York Islanders - News
Updated former Islander stats current through yesterday. How annoying is it that there is about 35 of them.
NHL: Jackets inquire about moving to East | The Columbus Dispatch
Our favorite midwestern blowhard (Portzline) apparently may get to bash the Islanders form better proximity. George Malik via Kukla's Korner indicates that the Red Wings have been looking into this for some time also.
NHL takes backward stance on brutal hits - NYPOST.com (Larry Brooks gets another one right...he's on a roll)
Maybe next year the diagram of the rink in the NHL rulebook will be updated to include designations for the offensive zone, the defensive zone, the neutral zone ... and the kill zone.
And don't forget our "Where's Nabokov" fanshot from Fabtraption that has been updated several times and includes a google translation of an interview from SovSport. In summary, it looks like we can trade him after the season and Garth Snow has given Nabokov permission to play in the world championships to showcase his talent. Play well Nabby...and be gone.
There are several other recent fanposts that will get some debate going. Be sure to check those out as well.
Tweets:
An interesting item came through from Ryan S Clark indicating that Northeastern coach Greg Cronin has left the team to coach in the AHL. There is a team with a vacancy (Bridgeport), we just signed Tyler McNeely, and Cronin has apparently coached Bridgeport before. Additionally, Cronin is heading out to help coach Team USA at the worlds whose head coach is currently Islander assistant to, director of, consultant, ex-head coach Scott Gordon. (Tweet here)
And finally, the Odessa Jackalopes have lost their playoff series and final game as a franchise as tweeted by Fornabaio.
Enjoy your Sunday everyone, and to those celebrating, Happy Easter.
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his Backhand has risen indeed
Over thine goalkeeper’s shoulder and into thine net… for the Backhand hath judged him and found him wanting.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Holy moly! The first word that came to
mind when listening to the Campbell interview is ‘unprofessional.’ Not only did he come on with an attack mentality right off the bat, he kept interrupting the guys in mid-sentence. Listen to any REAL league official in any sport. They find a way to maintain their cool and get their points across without sounding like “Ralph from Oceanside” calling The Fan. Then he says – “I don’t make this stuff up as I go along.” I think that’s precisely what he does. The guy simply does not uphold what a league official should be in attitude, approach, and bluntly, intellect. The man is an embarrassment. Whatever the reason he’s still in that job, it must be good enough that the NHL overseers are compelled to absorb the unending ridicule to keep him there.
by dose on Apr 24, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
My favorite moment was:
“WHERE WAS THE PUCK?! WHERE WAS THE PUCK?!”
The guy simply does not uphold what a league official should be in attitude, approach, and bluntly, intellect.
I think that sums it up right there.
I was telling the guys I actually have some level of empathy for the disciplinary issue in terms of him getting conflicting input from the GMs. But the way he butchers it, the way his communication in interviews like this and within rulings is all over the place, makes me think his comm skills are part of the issue in the GM relationship, too.
I guess those GMs who thought Torres should be suspended, “DON’T WATCH HOCKEY!” too.
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The guy simply does not uphold what a league official should be in attitude, approach, and bluntly, intellect. The man is an embarrassment. Whatever the reason he’s still in that job, it must be good enough that the NHL overseers are compelled to absorb the unending ridicule to keep him there.
I absolutely agree with you.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Apr 24, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Beat me to it dose...
“You guys are crazy! You must not even watch hockey”
How are they not embarrassed by him?
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Apr 24, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW!
Can’t belive Bettman allows him to speak in public as a employee of the NHL!
Back....
had to take a Campbell and wipe my Bettman.
"You guys are crazy! You must not even watch hockey", what are you Islander fans or something?
The man is playing shortanded mentally!
We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Apr 24, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
excellent listen
I guess you could kill someone on the ice but if you are deemed a nice guy then the punishment is less. Bobby Ryan is a skilled player so he gets the benefit of a doubt?
Also, why can’t they have standards? Stomp on a guy, it an automatic 15 games. Throw a stick in the stands, 10 games.
How in the world this guy is in charge is beyond me.
Now i am trying to figure out who are the GM’s with no balls
Also because Bobby Ryan is a nice kid
I mean duh, jeez Mulligan, any disciplinarian could figure that out…
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yeah, this is pretty high on the Unintentional Comedy Scale
I wanted someone to ask Colin if a player’s skate was less sharp because that player was a nice kid.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Updated
With news that John Tortorella has signed a contract extension to continue coaching the Rangers
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AYYYYYY.
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by TheMetalChick on Apr 24, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Lets see, the last 3 years the Rangers have barely made the playoffs, barely missed the playoffs, barely made the playoffs and haven’t gotten out of the first round. So if the Problem isn’t Torts (which it isn’t) where is the problem…
"And Campbell knows that if head-shots are eliminated, fighting must be eliminated too. Since fighting is, by definition, punching people in the head" - Quisp
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
Player personnel???
Although, I have to give Sather a bit of credit here…he has been better about acquiring picks, and acquiring and retaining young talent over the past couple of years. He has spent money a bit foolishly on veterans, but he can afford to do that until his youth is ready. Sauer and McDonough didn’t look too out of place on their blue line either. I think you give him another couple of years, but if he trades away any of those kids this off-season to “win now”, I’d lose it as a Ranger fan. Torts seems to have the right idea right now and seems to be getting a lot out of his players…hopefully (for the Rangers sake…and the rivalry’s sake) he’s getting through to Sather also.
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by Keith Quinn on Apr 24, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
You are more optimistic about Sather than my Rangers fan friends. The ones I talk to give him almost no credit for anything other than somehow being able to make his bigger mistake$ go away.
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by TheMetalChick on Apr 24, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't blame them a bit
They are stuck in that cycle of ‘middle 10 mediocrity’ where they barely make the playoffs (or just miss like Web said), get a pick that takes a few years to develop in that range, and knowing that, get rid of it somehow for mediocre ‘help now’ parts like Drury…and it’s been going on since ’94. They need to get one young stud somehow that fits with all of their developing parts and build around that and let the Gaboriks, Averys and Drurys fall off…and they need to do it before guys like Staal, Girardi, Lundqvist and Callahan start to hit free agency status.
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by Keith Quinn on Apr 24, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
The problem is
Without the Queen the whole team would collapse. They aren’t getting any better, their youngsters are all over the map in terms of production, and the future isn’t promising either.
They don’t have the talent to catch the Pens, Flyers or Devils. If you consider how they have been getting into the playoffs by the thin of their teeth, an improving Islanders team can really throw a wrench into that.
"And Campbell knows that if head-shots are eliminated, fighting must be eliminated too. Since fighting is, by definition, punching people in the head" - Quisp
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
Well that's what I mean by young stud
They should probably try to package Gaborik and this year’s pick to get a young guy that can carry a team (not that they grow on trees, but still). I think they have some nice complimentary parts, but no center of the team. If you add a JT to that team, how much better are they? Then, they are 3 lines deep with emerging quality D and stellar goaltending. While we were missing pieces throughout the years, right now, they are really only missing “the big piece” in my opinion. Whether that piece is actually available is another story.
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by Keith Quinn on Apr 24, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Tortorella is Overrated
The more I see of Tortorella’s abrasive personality, tired act with the press and constant whining the more I think Tampa’s Stanley Cup was mostly the product of Lecavalier, St. Louis and a stacked Tampa team.
This was a major choke job and I don’t think there’ll be any positive carryover to Rags at all from making — backing into — the playoffs and choking once they got there.
Tortorella
Due to his abrasive personality: wherever he goes he has an expiration dtae!
We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Apr 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks
Captioning is fun! I want to do some contests over the summer. (by contest I mean that nobody wins anything, but we try anyway).
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by Keith Quinn on Apr 24, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for inspiration and proper allocation of LHH sweepstakes resources
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by Dominik on Apr 25, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Campbell Scoop
Two words… TERM LIMITS
One man can not do his job, and he can’t do it for more than 5 years. He needs to be replaced and the singular responsibility of doling out suspensions should be delegated to a comittee who follow OBJECTIVE standards.
I happen to agree with him on the Torres hit, and greatly disagree with him on the “foot stomp”.
It’s more of a societal issue as well. It’s why guys are serving 25 years for selling pot, while investment bankers who destroy the american economy are getting 7 figure bonuses with bailout money.
Look at each infraction individually and objectively. Determine the punishment for that singular infraction (if there should be any), and then you can factor in the “repeat offender” dynamic. You can’t look at the video of a hit while your head is screaming “dirty player” or “gifted player”…
Colin also brings up a good point about the 9 GM’s who were polled annonomously. You can quiet that by making all suspensions by REQUEST AND REVIEW. Make a team submit a request for suspension with a full explanation of why a player should be suspended. This way the league doesn’t have to shoulder the resposibility or burden to pick and chose suspendable infractions. Of course the league can submit these requests as well, but they will all be available for public viewing and subject to comittee review.
I’m just gonna jump off of Colin’s back and say that THE SYSTEM needs to change… it’s awful.
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by JPinVA on Apr 24, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Such transparency...so reasonable and thus unheard of for the NHL
I want to say there’s a reason that Campbell, a former player and a coach who pretty much got his position when Keenan walked out, has not left this office for another coaching/team gig. It’s not because he wouldn’t have liked one.
I think about when Burke had the job, and I don’t remember Burke’s record but I remember his communication. Even if Burke is a blowhard when talking up his team (something that’s annoying but which I see as part of his PR role), he’s direct. He is clear in his reasoning. He is the type who gets job offers. Probably the type who doesn’t want to stay as disciplinarian for very long.
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OT: JP's Crystal Ball is at it again...
I’ve seen a bunch of tweets about Greg Cronin leaving Northeastern for a job in the AHL. Some have implied that he might be looking at the Bridgeport job. I just want to mention that my CB put it toggether before our CB.
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Just wondering here
If we sign the Northeastern coach to Brideport, do we trade down and draft Jamieson Oleksiak. He played at Northeastern and I think if we draft him he can play right away in the AHL with his former coach. He’s the big d-man we all want and maybe we can package the picks we get for trading down to go up in the first and get Mayfield, Musil or Rattie
that was my thinking in the post that I linked to
I like Hamilton as an answer down the road to an organizational need, but Oleksiak plus an extra dart, or maybe a package deal that moves a LH puck mover for a RH AHL playmaking center….
If the Soundtigers expect to help wings become elite scorers they should develop them with better playmaking centers.
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Colin Campbell's on Edge
I heard the re-broadcast of Colin Campbell’s tirade on XMs NHL Homeice on Friday morning.
Collie sounds like a man on the defensive b/c his inconsistent judgements are being questioned. Most of you pretty much sumed up his unprofessionalism and flat out hostile manner with the interviewer…
- As I write this I just witnessed Collie’s next case * Richards just shoved Connolley head first into the boards … Oh … Only 2 Minutes??? That will not see Collie’s desk then.
Anyway …
As much as I think Raffi’s hit was kinda brutal … It was within the rule book (GM’s fault), and I agree with Colin there … I just think he was a real J/O in the interview. He doesn’t have the distinguished decorum of a VP of anything.
BTW — Sabres failed on the 5-3 PP they had … but scored shortly after the last part of the PP expired go figure.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Apr 24, 2011 5:03 PM EDT reply actions
The Torres hit
The devil of it is, the player hasn’t established possession… Seabrook hasn’t received the puck, which is why Torres gets that interference penalty. And he could easily hit him body on body instead of looking for the headshot.
So – I kinda sorta can squint enough to see Colin’s point, that it’s something specifically exempted in the rules, so that’s why the refs can’t send him off. That being said – Seabrook is clearly in a vulnerable position, and he gets blown up (principal point of contact is the head) by a guy in his first game back from suspension, who went on record during that suspension saying that he wasn’t going to change the way he played the game. So… where’s the escalating suspension, Mr. “I don’t wing it or just do the easy/popular thing”???
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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With all due repect to the man in Virgina ...
“One man can not do his job,”
I don’t like to belabor the point, but one real professional could do a better job than 5 Campbells. Whether he happened to be right on the Torres play is essentially beside the point. He has gotten so much wrong over the years that getting one right by accident is no boast to make. But even beyond that , the amatuerish, almost sophomoric manner which he conducts himself is itself reason enough he should not be in the job. This guy in charge of administering discipline for a professional sports league is tantamount to having Corporal Agarn as Adjutant General at West Point.
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by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Apr 24, 2011 8:52 PM EDT reply actions
Nobody's watching the Canucks Hawks game?????
This is good shit.
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just tuned in
this is intense
GO HAWKS!!!!
"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992
by Zhora on Apr 24, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm watching...
… just haven’t been on here. And it is a good game. Just a minute ago, Campoli screwed up, which lead to a 2-on-1. How funny would it have been if he’s the reason the Hawks were eliminated, after wanting off the Island?
Currently on Ranger Playoff Deathwatch 2011.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 24, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, that thought crossed my mind when that slipup happened.
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YES
Man game seven for the Nucks and Hawks. Nucks starting goalie Schinder hurt, Luongo came in in reflief, but the Hawks won on OT to force a game seven vs the Choke-Nucks!
We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Apr 24, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
UN-real!!!!!
Facing elimination 3 games in a row and forcing a game 7? WOW. No matter what happens, the Blackhawks will be able to hold their heads up high after this.
Luongo better watch the rebounds in game 7- because he will NOT get yanked for some AHL replacement kid, its all gonna be on him. Lets see if he can handle it.
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by TheMetalChick on Apr 24, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
somebody commented this on the yahoo recap of the game
but he is f*cked mentally
i mean he lets up 6 goals and gets pulled in game 4, 4 goals and is pulled in game 5, is replaced as the starter by some kid with less than 40 NHL games experience, only to replace said kid at the end of the game due to injury and give up the GWG in overtime. Now he has to go into game 7 with all these past failures and the knowledge that he wouldnt even be starting this game if the only replacement wasnt some AHL callup
like really, if his confidence isnt shot then he must have amnesia and forgotten the past week
"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992
Insane game
You can’t write that script.
Also: Did anyone catch the bit about Luongo being in the locker room, not on the bench before he was called into the game? What’s that about?! Is UC one of those new buildings that still somehow has zero room for the visiting backup goalie? (Or is this the result of playoffs and the announcer “between the glass” space?)
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I don't know but
I did see Chicago’s backup Turco on the bench. So at least the home bench does have enough space fpr their bu goalie.
We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Apr 25, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Turco has his own barcalounger on that bench.
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DNA, tests just came back, results these kids are all Trevor Gillies’ illegimate offspring. Trevor, was notified by Child services that he will be suspended for another 10 games!
We are all Islanders, even if we are in Jersey!
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