NHL Draft Lottery Thread: Islanders history could be made...but likely not
The NHL Draft Lottery Drawing is one of the loveliest, most absurd happenings each April. Thus, I love it. It's sort of made for TV, but not really (the "drawing" happens before they go live). Reps of NHL teams show up and sit uncomfortably on stage, but the likely outcome for all of them is one guy being extremely relieved and four or five guys thinking, "Well, that was an awkward waste of five minutes." Meanwhile, everyone's hoping to be rewarded for a losing season.
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The outcome is already determined before they do the pick-by-pick placard unveiling, so the team reps are left to sit there like game show contestants. Even with this filler, the event isn't really even ideal to fill a 10-minute slot -- and that's even after adding the terribly awkward live interviews with the one or two or three prospects who are expected to go #1 and #2 in the draft. (And this year, that field is wide open.)
Underlying it all is the bizarre subtext of a nation (two nations, really) of millions who channel their vicarious hopes for joy through a multi-billion-dollar industry and the whiskerless kids upon whom much of that industry rests. We are trained to hope, the same way states train citizens to hope that a dollar here and a dollar there will make them millionaires, and all our troubles will be gone.
Ironically, such awkward, surreal scenes make ... ideal television, if your humor is of a certain orientation. (Mine is.) So here is what's at stake:
The Islanders' chance of striking gold is worse than their chance of getting jobbed.
Here are the lottery odds. If you win, you can move up at most four slots:
| Edmonton | 25.0% |
| Colorado | 18.8% |
| Florida | 14.2% |
| NY Islanders {oooh! oooh! Pick me! Pick me!} |
10.7% |
| Ottawa | 8.1% |
| Atlanta | 6.2% |
| Columbus | 4.7% |
| New Jersey | 3.6% |
| Boston (from TOR) | 2.7% |
| Minnesota | 2.1% |
| Colorado (conditional/optional from STL) | 1.5% |
| Carolina | 1.1% |
| Calgary | 0.8% |
| Dallas | 0.5% |
Add that all up and ... wait a minute! The Islanders have just a 10.7% chance of getting the #1 overall pick...but they have a better than 20% chance of one of the four teams below them winning the lottery and bumping them from #4 to #5. Suddenly I hate the lottery.
History
The 30th-placed team has won the lottery the last three years. Before that, in 2007, 26th-place Chicago won and went from #5 to #1. We due for another move? Here's the full history:
| Year Selected | Effect On Draft Order | Player Selected |
| 1995 Los Angeles | Moved from 7th to 3rd | D Aki Berg |
| 1996 Ottawa | Retained 1st selection | D Chris Phillips |
| 1997 Boston | Retained 1st selection | C Joe Thornton |
| 1998 Tampa Bay | Moved from 3rd to 1st via trades | C Vincent Lecavalier |
| 1999 Chicago | Moved from 8th to 4th (*trade to NYR) |
RW Pavel Brendl* |
| 2000 NY Islanders | Moved from 5th to 1st | G Rick DiPietro |
| 2001 Atlanta | Moved from 3rd to 1st | LW Ilya Kovalchuk |
| 2002 Florida | Moved from 3rd to 1st (*trade to CBS) |
LW Rick Nash* |
| 2003 Florida | Moved from 4th to 1st (*traded) |
G Marc-Andre Fleury* |
| 2004 Washington | Moved from 3rd to 1st | LW Alex Ovechkin |
| 2005 Pittsburgh | [tinfoil conspiracy] |
C Sidney Crosby |
| 2006 St. Louis | Retained 1st selection | D Erik Johnson |
| 2007 Chicago | Moved from 5th to 1st | RW Patrick Kane |
| 2008 Tampa Bay | Retained 1st selection | C Steven Stamkos |
| 2009 NY Islanders | Retained 1st selection | C John Tavares |
| 2010 Edmonton | Retained 1st selection | LW Taylor Hall |
The Players Involved are Talented, but Precocious and Uncertain
Ask yourself: What do the Islanders need next year? Well, defensemen (preferably healthy and better). Maybe a scoring winger. Josh Bailey to be the Bailey we'd hoped for.
Now ask yourself: What do the Islanders need three years from now? Because that's really what's at stake here. While a draftee could enter the lineup next year, everyone agrees in most cases that's hardly ideal. So what you have is maybe a player or two (Adam Larsson? Gabrial Landeskog?) who would be "NHL-ready" to play next year, although no one agrees that they're even the best picks right now, nor that playing kids at 18 is wise if you can afford to avoid it.
Meanwhile, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins is the latest #1 ranked guy in the pool, but his frame is featherweight and scares people off thinking he'd be NHL ready any time soon. If it fell to you, would you pass up talent like that because it's small? Because he's a center and you already have young centers? Because he can't help you next year while another guy can?
Larsson, by the way, is seen by some as better than Victor Hedman, who was a very real possibility to be picked first overall the year John Tavares was selected.
18-Year-Olds, Dude
All of that is assuming that the kids in the top five (because the Isles could still pick fifth) will pan out. In recent years, they usually do. But you never know. They've been playing against kids, mostly, and the impression of their potential changes monthly -- and will change again by December of next year.
So we don't know who's best, we don't know where the Isles will pick, and we don't know if where that pick is matters because we don't know who's best. (By the way, the Islanders have eight picks in the 2011 draft, which is more than all but nine other teams.)
But we'll tune in because we can hope. We can hope they win the lottery and pick ... whom, exactly? Aww hell, who knows. Just watch. And discuss.
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Let's Go Islander Balls!
"had to take a Campbell and wipe my Bettman" Skeeterman
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let's see if these babies can swim!
by Empire39 on Apr 12, 2011 7:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And for those with a Spanish inclination.....translation
Vamos Islanderos COJONES!!!!!
by Russel Ginart on Apr 12, 2011 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
YOU HAVE NO... NO... NO.... MARBLES YOU HAVE NO MARBLES!
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What's the read on Dougie Hamilton?
He appears to be the top ranked defenseman in the draft, I read that some scouts feel he could be a “straight to the show” level talent, the Isles back line needs help and he’s the 4th ranked player in the final rankings.
Anybody know much about the kid and if he would be a solid pick for Garth to take in a scenario where the Isles don’t get bumped from the four spot, don’t move up and he’s not taken at #3?
Ya ever seen Frans Nielsen’s eyes, Chief? Those…cold…black…lifeless eyes, like a dolls eyes…
FACT CHECK
Dougie is not #1 in the draft but rather #1 in NA. I am a fan of his and want the Isles to take him if they trade down.
Who to pick?
I really like Sean Couturier because of his size and reported strength on the puck as well as his selke potential.
If per chance we were to win and RJN is clearly the best player then we just have to take him and not be concerned that he’s a center (so was my first suggestion). Who knows what will happen with JB and you can always trade him (JB) as well. I really like the idea of an NHL player, but I feel like i may be able to wait a couple of years to see the benefits of the pick. It’s hard to say if I would pick Landeskog because he is “most ready”, according to almost all scouts I have reviewed, when he is not believed to have the most upside.
I really just wanted to start some discussion, so what do we got being none of have probably followed numerous games from any of the prospects
Patience will prevail, if not...
I meant to Put RJNNH - Ryan Jeremy Noel Nugent-Hopkins, Seriously
Patience will prevail, if not...
That kid has too many names
Now I don’t like him
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by Keith Quinn on Apr 12, 2011 7:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
To bad this isn't soccer
We could just call him by one name alla Pele.
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Like every year...
…They all sound both sexy and scary to me.
RNH (Gretzky-like vision! Woo! But tiny…)
Couturier (smart all-around! But dropping…)
If the Islanders stay where they are and Couturier really does drop like they’ve said, he sounds like a really nice grab. Hamilton too on the D-side. Of course all of them have someone in the know who salivates over them…
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without looking for the Draft
Good lord we need more Wingers. Here’s a quick rundown:
LW: Nino, Gregoire, Joensuu (who might not be back) Figren (who is leaving for Europe)
RW: Day, Kabanov, Petrov, Rakhshani
I’d say out of those wingers we have 2 definite NHL’ers (Nino, Petrov) and a lot of maybes.
C: Lee, Nelson, Cizikas, Ullstrom, Clark, Trivino, Dibo, Marcinko, Toews, Romano
Lee, Nelson, Cizikas all look like they might make the NHL. Most of the rest are projects but some are going to hit.
D: DeHaan, DeHart, Wishart, Kohn, Ness, Kessel, Donovan, Klementyev, Katic, Sims
Wishart and Katic are NHL ready, DeHaan and DeHart are promising.
I think if we pick up some Defensemen it should be later in the draft, promising high schoolers or juniors who are going to be 2-3 years away.
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I could go wing or D
To me the D has quantity but a whole lot of maybes too. Don’t have hopes beyond de Haan and Donovan, honestly. (Wishart too, but I sort of count him in already.)
At wing, Landeskog sounds nice. But I don’t mind taking centers and letting them sort it out either.
If they could get Larsson or Hamilton, I’d understand that, although I tend to want to wait to grab D unless they’re really really special.
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Maybe it's the Jets fan in me
I’m expecting Boston to win the lottery and, through some previously unmentioned loop-hole, be awarded the number one pick. After that, an announcement will be made that because they hurt Mario’s feelings, the Isles will forfeit their 1st round pick to the Turtles. Just hoping the craziness ends there.
Funny, hey they fixed (tanked to get Mario) and "fixed" the lottery system so they would get Sid;
Mario just might have scared everyone and take his puck and go home :)
That's what happened
(I should have put the asterisks there to explain. Also: Both years Florida won they traded their pick.)
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lololololol
It’s like Dale Tallon has secretly been their GM for a whole decade.
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I still just want
“best player available”. I don’t care about the position. If we are overstocked, we can trade for need, play them out of position, or let them marinade in Jrs or BPT. There is no rush. I mean, even Stamkos and JT weren’t expected to come in and make a difference right away, and it seems like this crop is a cut below those two.
This is the same philosophy the NY football Giants have in drafting, and their D line is insane. (usually)
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by Keith Quinn on Apr 12, 2011 7:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Best Player period
I agree, but sometimes the draft is a crap shoot, just hope no matter where we pick we end up with the stud of the draft and no Scott Scionns ( however the hell he spell’s his name)
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AAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEE
Don’t say that name! Don’t even almost-say it! You’ll curse the draft!
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Agree 100%
Just hearing that name I have to hit the Happy Juice again just to get over it.
by Russel Ginart on Apr 13, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Best player available can be subjective
Most NHL ready, Highest Potential, some kind of mix. None of the guys in the top 8 or so are clearly ahead of anyone else (except maybe RNH). I think, unless we win tonight, that we can take from need without leaving anyone big on the table.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
I'm all about BPA
I guess I just do this exercise as, “but if all things are equal…which profile do you want?”
Since I really don’t know who’s better (not that anyone knows, but I REALLY don’t know), I just play along with the profiles and the building philosophy.
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I keep saying that
so I don’t have to be commital or intelligent. All I really mean is don’t draft by position (especially goaltender pls thx).
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If they jump to #1....
…. I think you pick the 200+ lb defenseman. The Isles need size. If you stay at #4 (or drop to #5) and a big quality defeseman isn’t there, I’d try to trade down a bit and try to get a player in return (rather than more picks).
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 7:22 PM EDT reply actions
By the way...
… I’m pretty sure nobody has a better chance to move up in the draft than move down. The last place team would be able to say that, but they can’t move up. They can only move down. As for everyone else, there’s a smaller chance of advancing than dropping.
But at least you can only drop one spot.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 7:24 PM EDT reply actions
Fine, rain on my parade with your logic and facts
Yeah, fair point. That plays into the whole lottery psychosis to me: Everyone goes in hoping, “maybe today is my LUCKY day!” when, in reality, the odds are better it’s an unlucky day.
Like I tell my brother when he buys a lottery ticket: “You have a better chance of being tackled by a cheetah while crossing my street.”
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Mock This!
I’ve been hearing all sorts of scenarios … and they favor the top 4 in several ways.
Assuming the Islanders don’t get bumped out of the 4 hole, and they keep their draft position … Here is the most common theory of how the draft order can work out.
1 – Oilers – Take local hot shot Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
2 – Avs – Need D, and salvate over Larsson
3 – Cats – Took big D-man last year Grab Landeskog
4- Islanders – Grab heralded close #2 ranked D-man Dougie Hamilton, who moved up the boards … Face it … The Isles have no legitimate top pairing D-man in the system. We need D!!!
OR if both top D-man are gone … It may be time to move the pick … If that was the case … We have either Landeskog or RNH on the board for us …. Garth then sits and waits for the phone at the draft table to ring … Kick some tires and see if anyone else in the top 10 has a compelling offer to swap with our pick and take a young gun (Comeau, Bailey???) for a stud veteran still in his mid 20s.. . If not? …. Boom we take one of the two in Landeskog or RNH … no big deal … just add a lil draft drama to the mix.
I’m not going to watch the draft lottery … It’s too nerve wracking for something that I have lilttle control over, and in the end of the day really isn’t really worth getting physched up for or aggrivated over… Either way I think the Isles are going to get a good player.
I’ll chime in again later after having looked up who won the lottery, and then digested some of the NHL CS analysis that I heard about the top 5 this afternoon.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Apr 12, 2011 7:26 PM EDT reply actions
If Larsson, Hamilton and Landeskog are gone...
I’d say Huberdeau. He’s got size too and he’s right up there.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
I reject Huberdeau
On the grounds of having to remember how to spell his name too often.
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by Dominik on Apr 12, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ahh... the journalists dilemma.
I always appreciated the game day stat sheets that had phonetic pronunciations of names, of course it never helped with the damn spell check.
LOVE those pronunciation guides
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Won't matter
he’d be JH anyway.
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He would be "Haberdashery" to me
Or perhaps a chapeau shop or something. “What size do you wear sir?”
/Spinal tap’d
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I'm going with Huber!
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Ugh
If he starts doing HuberDOZOs, I’m gonna be pissed!
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by Keith Quinn on Apr 12, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Englebert Huberdeau
Will I see you again… after the draft is through?
Oh, after the draft… I’ll gladly play for you!
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by mikb on Apr 13, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I may be in the minority here but
I don’t want a center at all. With Tavares, Nielsen, Bailey, Nelson, Lee, and Cizikas, we are loaded at center. I wouldn’t be opposed to drafting a center in the 2nd round or later but when you have a top 5 draft pick, that player is suppose to have top line talent and play big minutes. Two centers can’t play on the same line. Larsson is the guy we need. Projected as a franchise defenseman, a big body, already been playing against 30 year olds for 2 years now, he is the perfect piece to end the rebuild for good. If Larsson isn’t available though, Gabriel Landeskog also seems like a great fit. The future top line could consist of Nino-Tavares-Landeskog.
I can buy that thinking
My thing with centers is that they’re versatile, and so for example Lee already plays wing, Cizikas plays a wing-friendly game, Bailey is still a question mark. So if Bailey doesn’t pan out, or if Tavares’ defense stalls, or if featherweight Frans wears down early…you still have talent to spread around, etc.
But if there were a Hall type available, a guy who’s absolutely a dynamic wing, I’d be all over him.
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by Torch7 on Apr 12, 2011 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Seconded.
Actually, “fifthed”
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
sixthed
But, alas, those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make injured.
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The worst part of watching the draft lotto live is....
…. having to hear Roenik in the prior show.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 7:59 PM EDT reply actions
Are they toying with us?
They start the show saying that we’ll see the lotto balls come out. Could they finally be grasping the idea of this show?
Nah…. I’ll bet the drawing already happened.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:01 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed
They’re already lying to us.
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oh so true
as my brother said, the only way the NHL shows non bias is if we win the draft :)
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by bossy2219 on Apr 12, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Truer words were never spoken. :-)
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Bill Torrey is there for Florida?!
That’s not fair! They’re cheating! That’s like sending in the dalai lama!
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by Dominik on Apr 12, 2011 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
that made me sad…for a second, I thought he was there for us.
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Hey, it's the Avalanche representative!
Let’s ask him if he think’s he’s got a better chance ’cause we got Tavares and they only have Duchene.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Also great TV: GMs speaking GM speak
“Process…evaluating…going through that…”
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Torrey can win the lottery just by pulling a Torrey mind trick on them.
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Kerry Gwydir for the Islander
Assistant TO THE g.m.
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I think I've seen him before....
…. but I think he had something removed from his back. And I’m pretty sure a bell was involved.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't he selling Hot Dogs at NVMC
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Someone very young and very happy to be there
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I'm just curious...
When is it not an exciting time to be an Islander? Do they dust off that cue card everytime they are in the draft lottery?
I'm pretty sure all 30 teams say it at some point during their off-season.
Ours just so happens to be earlier than most other teams.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't it be nice to hear someone from the Isles say...
You know what, we really don’t want to be here next year.
by metalcoconut on Apr 12, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course they say that, they just phrase it differently:
Winning this lotto will ensure we won’t be here next year!
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
During the 0 for Novemeber
it wasn’t that great to be an Islander fan then, but June. Man, June is a great month.
by Jones79 on Apr 12, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They have alot of balls to juggle
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by bossy2219 on Apr 12, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think it's about half-way through the program.
And naturally there’ s a commercial break before #1 and 2 are announced.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The answer is none. None more bullshit.
This is why I love this though: They have time to fill, and they have to try to pry entertainment out of the worst possible candidates to fill it. This is one area where Brian Burke’s approach would help things.
“If we win? Then we’re going to dangle that pick in front of Brian Murray until he cries.”
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by Dominik on Apr 12, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ha ha!
“I’m gonna leave everyone with the bluest balls this planet has ever witnessed!”
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Haven't they concluded the draw already?
These guys are just pawns that are awaiting the presentation correct?
Nugent-Hopkins is a kid in need of a nickname
I dub thee, “Flounder.”
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Ryan Nugent-Hopkins just needs to get back to playing Ryan Nugent-Hopkins Hockey
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The quick brown Ryan jumped Nugent the lazy Hopkins.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
i was gonna say
now that we dont have RSH, we could really use RNH lol
we could call him the Nuge
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Or Ted.
Rock and Roll Hoochie Coo!
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Landeskog sounds disappointingly un-Viking-like
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Just once
I want to see a GM or Assistant TO the GM, or whomever just say, f-it. where picking RJNNH or we’re trading the pick to Florida just to see how bad they can mess it up.
by Jones79 on Apr 12, 2011 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That's be awesome
Or since they’d never do that, I’d at least stand for a, “Well Sherman here was just talking to me off set, and he said no matter what they’re taking a D-man, so that certainly shapes our options.”
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OK I officially want Edmonton to lose now.
They seem to be expecting to win for a second straight year. And while their record certainly earned it, I think it’s a bit presumptive. Screw ’em.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:20 PM EDT reply actions
Beat when the "face of the franchise"
can stop a clock. Poor Taylor…and his saddle.
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Sponsorship?
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
NHL teams used to have junior teams in Ontario for development purposes
Kingston Frontenacs is another example.
yeah, but "Frontenacs" sounds bitchin' cool
Just naming the team after yourself is so… well… so New Jersey Devils. I want the Titans and River Rats back.
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oh beg pardon
Devils aren’t affiliated with Albany any more. It’s Lowell now, right? Fine. I want the Lowell Loch Monsters back.
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Never bothered to change after that arrangement ended, I guess
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Landeskog is freaking big huh?
I do like that! He is man sized already…that can be good. I hope (if we get him) he’s an animal.
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OK let's hope we hear "Ottawa" first.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:23 PM EDT reply actions
I hope this damn thing is audited by KPMG!
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Ahh well, the FIX is in. Draft done earlier!
I watch hockey because I love the game...I watch the Islanders because I hate myself. ~JPinVA
Complain about reffing much???
I watch hockey because I love the game...I watch the Islanders because I hate myself. ~JPinVA
Haha
That’s what I was thinking…here’s your spanking! Maybe next year you won’t beat up the Penguins.
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F*CK!
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
We dropped.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuck!
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Fecking
Devils…ahh go to hell!
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I see what you did there.
In this case, however, I’m still not laughing.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't try
just looked at it and I never say go to hell…it’s too mild. I think I was in shock!
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oh shit!!!!!
The Devils!!!!!!!
FB4Real
"Past performance Is Not A Guarantee For Future Results"
"A great shot is when you pull it off. A smart shot is when you don’t have the guts to try it." - Phil Mickelson
"Listening is a Skill" -Jack Capuano
The Devils won and move ahead of us
That’s gotta be the worst possible scenario.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:25 PM EDT reply actions
That's what happens
when you send a guy with gelled hair and emo glasses.
Idiot…this team doesn’t want to win.
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hahahahahahaha
Grabner is faster than Willie Mays Hays, anyhow.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Now we all know why Garth didn't show up
He knew we were going to get hosed by some bullshit fixed lottery that is done behind closed doors.
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The Devils…ha ha ha ha. That has to be God’s really dark sense of humor.
by metalcoconut on Apr 12, 2011 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Apparently our balls
suffered a hip injury. Couldn’t keep up.
by afrosupreme on Apr 12, 2011 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I mean come on....
…. they had the hottest friggin’ record at the end of the year and don’t need any more help. This will keep us relegated to MSG+++++++++ for years to come.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:26 PM EDT reply actions
True.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
It may be an idea. If we drive up the bidding, they may not be able to add a high first rounder to the roster, or we land Parise…either way, it may be good strategery.
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Honestly
That was my first thought when I saw them in front of us.
“Screw me? No screw you my friend. Screw you.”
by metalcoconut on Apr 12, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
That is what we get for sending Gwydir
Who the hell is he?
wasn't he from Lord of the Rings or something?
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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watch your mouth!
:0)
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Wait till next year?
I'm a mets, jets, islander, and terps fan. Also known as a glutton for perennial punishment.
calm down
The devils don’t have the cap space to keep Zach and the first pick
The first pick doesn't have to be immediately signed.
And besides the rookie cap makes it more possible.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Cap going up this year again, too
By ~$2M or so, I believe?
Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.
Ugh
that’s right. So is the cap floor then. Think we’ll have problems there?
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we can just sign Dougie
to another ridiculous bonus riddled contract
"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992
The only scratched player/coach
to be making 5.5 million annually
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because hes totttalllyyy gonna hit 50 goals this season
from the bench lol
"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992
Bonuses rule
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Not with the other RFAs and UFAs we still have to sign.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
and....
3 million more off the yashin witt buyouts- start spendin Garth
Is Witt over this year?
Remember, we lost Rollie, Weight and Wiz salary too.
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Witt gets one more year
This was the first year of his buyout. I think the number drops this year though.
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capgeek says
Witt drops from 1.3 to .8
Yashin goes 4.7 to 2.2
How is that possible?
I have to wonder. Attendance can’t be up that much, can it?
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Hockey fans are gullible addicts?
I think attendance has held steady, prices have gone up, and they’ve been good at milking revenue streams. Winter Classic supposedly produces more each year.
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Yeah, I'm sure they will....
…. it’s more that of all damn teams, it had to be that everyone had to talk about during the second half of the year.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, well it is a lottery
And it is not the end of the world. The 5th best choice will surely serve the team well.
If the two best defensemen are gone, I'd be in favor of trading the pick.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:30 PM EDT reply actions
NHL shits on us once again
These things have always seemed fixed to me. I suppose this is the make up call for the fiasco last summer.
i hope we trade up
i was hoping wed be able to get one of Larsson RNH or Landeskog
that was unlikely with the 4th overall pick, but the 5th?
fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-
and on top of it the DEVILS won it?!?!?? horse shit!!!!!
"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992
I think they are gonna trade down
talent at about 5-10 is supposed to be pretty even. That’s provided the board holds.
This team has to give up major assetts to go higher. Assetts we can’t afford to move. No one is going to take Comeau and Parentau to drop back.
yeah if they cant trade up
id be fine with trading down
at the end of the day this was supposed to be a playoff season, we were supposed to be in the lottery so no matter who we get, its a bonus
"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992
He's good at handling balls.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially his son's.
Oooopps! My bad. Someone was going to go there eventlually.
by metalcoconut on Apr 12, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well the good news is
that no one in charge of the NHL website turned off the Versus feed so I can watch so kick ass BMX action.
Heh
Honestly, this is probably one of the better years to fall from 4 to 5. (He said, confidently, in April.) It seems wide open.
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Totally true
I felt good as long was we were in the top 5. There are going to be some misses in these first five. At least we won’t have ourselves to blame it ours is.
We'd need to trade up to get a goalie.
Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.
Why is that in sarcasm font?
That’s true!
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DP says
“what goalie are you talking about?”
by neologizer on Apr 12, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
hahahahahahahah
rec’d
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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5th pick
It’s a conspiracy. Auger probably picked the ping-pong balls.
Coutourier? Would be a good fit. I can see a trade for an established NHL-er and another pick, although I doubt it would be worthwhile.
If I am CB or KS I'm asking...
“Is it still an exciting time to be an Islander?” That would be my first question in the conference call.
They made me
watch Reese!
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by Keith Quinn on Apr 12, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Thanks Keith.
I didn’t think of it that way but now I feel sick.
by metalcoconut on Apr 12, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
/showers…brushes teeth
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Meanwhile, on the other end of the spectrum
My misguided brother-in-law wanted the Rags to not make the playoffs because he wanted them to have a better pick (he assumes his beloved team can’t beat the Crapitals). We were at a party that night, so no TV to watch. On the way home, I said “I’m sorry to tell you this, but unfortunately your team made the playoffs.” And he was pissed!
None of us can ever be happy.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Well they DID pick Montoya pretty high.
That’s worked out well for… well, us.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I suppose this is what happens
When you call the refs out for not doing their job and punch the league princesses in the mouth.
Too bad
but read the comments right after we found we got the 5th pick. like 5 fucks in a row with a few CRAPS in there. my heart sank when i saw the blue and orange with the 5th pick
It just played out too pefectly
Although the funny thing is I’ve no better idea of who will be available to us now than I did before. I mean one more of those middle names will be gone, but beyond that?
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And just think
Tallon is in front of us…and Colorado, we may still have a damn good chance!
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And just think
Tallon is in front of us…and Colorado, we may still have a damn good chance!
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Grr
SBN lock up!
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I wonder...
Also, in trade down land…that Micah Imadinnerjacket looks nice.
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by Dominik on Apr 12, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Imadinnerjacket?
You mean the president of Iran?
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
Kid named Mika Zibanejad playing in Sweden.
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Isn't he still in the ~10 area?
Although even if he is, who knows how brains will be reprogrammed by June.
The funniest thing is when players move up between now and June without having played any more games.
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This
bring me some Swedes.
There are not enough Swedes!
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True, we need to fill up the map of Europe some more...
Sorry, watching this pointless event has given me a case of the sillies.
What else can you do
We have a Dane, an Austrian, two Swiss, a Czech, (What is Jurcina?), a Finn (Koskinnen), Nilsson is a Swede, but we could use another. Probably another Finn too…I miss Tikkanese.
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We do need a German
to fill in the middle of the map. I’ll have to have a look around here but I can’t guarantee much.
Jurcina is a Slovak, filling up the map nicely.
I don't remeber where I saw it but there is a German in the top 50
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POLAND!
Gimme a new Polish winger. Mariusz demands it!
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Solve our German needs with a Goc
And Mica is some kind of hybrid, so he’d fill several of our international quotas.
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But with Zibanejad
and Rakhshani there’d be two Islanders of Iranian descent – definitely a new record.
This is gonna be great
when we have training camp in Palestine.
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by Keith Quinn on Apr 12, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Peace in the MIddle East through hockey!
Why not? They’ve tried everything else.
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LOL
Inshallah, those guys slash each other mercilessly! We are mortified. Immediate cease-fire and total reconciliation!
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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But with Zibanejad
and Rakhshani there’d be two Islanders of Iranian descent – definitely a new record.
Is there a primer
for Swedish league stat translation.
Because when you just look at his numbers for the year, they suck.
Don't know if you looked at games played
But apparently he was called up from the junior team in mid-season, which is why he moved up the charts late and impressed scouts more.
Also, just throw in the standard “already plays with men” caveat, which is my favorite draft-time phrase.
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I love when they do that on the Daily Show
“…in the Daily Show’s new segment, Jon Stewart touches kids”
when talking about his charity work.
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Right
Always here the “plays with men” thing, which is less than useful since the NHL is also made up of, you know, men.
Interesting below about the guys having to play more defensive minutes. That makes more sense with regards to the lack of scoring. We need some zone start numbers from the SEL!
David Hannssen
Used to say that the guys playing in the Swedish Elite League (SEL) are forced to play heavy defensively responsible minutes at that age because the teams are loaded with veterans. It’s very rare that you’ll find a young prospect with a lot of points coming out of there.
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what happened to hannssen?
he posts a lot less nowadays :(
"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992
Horrible schedule with school and life
he’s now “emeriti” status…I’m sure he’ll be back around between semesters and stuff.
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by Keith Quinn on Apr 12, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
ahhhhh i see
damn those pesky “responsibilities”
just no fun
"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992
Either trade up and get Larsson or Landeskog
OR trade down to around #10-12 and get Jamieson Oleksiak and whatever else can be acquired.
by nyislanders93 on Apr 12, 2011 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Like this
that is intriguing size!
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by Keith Quinn on Apr 12, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oleksiak, talk about adding size to your defense. lol
Proud Islanders fan, the organization that iced the greatest team to ever play the game and won 4 straight cups.
I'm also an optimistic Knicks fan, pessimistic Mets fan, and a happy Jets fan.
Just have a good feeling....
it’s going to work out for the best for us!
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I think Tyler Durden said it best...
Tyler Durden: You have to consider the possibility that God does not like you, he never wanted you, and in all probability, he HATES you. It’s not the worst thing that can happen.
Narrator: It isn’t?
Tyler Durden: We don’t NEED Him!
Narrator: We don’t? We don’t !
Tyler Durden: Fuck damnation, man! Fuck redemption! We’re God’s unwanted children, SO BE IT!
The NHL may hate us, but at least they know we exist. And at least we’re not Florida, losing out on 2 #1 picks back to back!!!
by 54_Fighting on Apr 12, 2011 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I think Tyler Durden said it best...
Tyler Durden: You have to consider the possibility that God does not like you, he never wanted you, and in all probability, he HATES you. It’s not the worst thing that can happen.
Narrator: It isn’t?
Tyler Durden: We don’t NEED Him!
Narrator: We don’t? We don’t !
Tyler Durden: Fuck damnation, man! Fuck redemption! We’re God’s unwanted children, SO BE IT!
The NHL may hate us, but at least they know we exist. And at least we’re not Florida, losing out on 2 #1 picks back to back!!!
by 54_Fighting on Apr 12, 2011 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Screw it
I rec’d both!
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by Keith Quinn on Apr 12, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Awesome.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Would that make Comeau a Space Monkey
who is ready to be sot into space? I’m for that.
by metalcoconut on Apr 12, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Snow trades down
trades down two spots and gains a second round, trades down again and does the same, trades all the seconds to move up again, Isles pick 14,15th,picks Cody Rosen roomate and another goalie.
everyone just relax, we will be alright
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Looks like everyone screamed and left
Not used to this – usually everyone screams after games and gets sarcastic about the refs for an hour or so.
There's a new story by Dom about our position.
Everyone’s commenting there now.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 12, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
You can do that too!
Sorry — I guess I should have left breadcrumbs, but I didn’t want to shortcut the conversation.
They tell us to get “news” posts up when time-appropriate, so I thought I better toss something up there now that new information has come to light.
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New shit has come to light! And shit... man, she kidnapped herself. Well sure, man. Look at it... a young trophy wife, in the parlance of our times,
by Jones79 on Apr 12, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
...owes money all over town, including to known pornographers
—and that’s cool… that’s, that’s cool…
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by Dominik on Apr 12, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've seen that movie a dozen times,
And never have seen the end. You see, there’s this drinking game…

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