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"We know it's not a crooked league, but the point is there is a bias," said the 40-year-old veteran, who was limited to 18 games this season because of a back injury.

Weight believes the Islanders' relative inexperience and spot in the standings were factors in the unfair treatment. "It was pretty evident that the games in [the officials'] minds weren't important to us," said Weight, who spent four games behind the bench.

Weight thought the Islanders' involvement in February's Friday Night FightFest against the Penguins at Nassau Coliseum two months ago was held against them.

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I guess the NHL really can’t fine him?

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by Mark D on Apr 11, 2011 12:55 AM EDT reply actions  

That's what I was thinking!

He’s in a nice spot, not quite player, not quite staffer. It would be worth a fine just to have one of the clowns have to call him and tell him with a straight face that he’s wrong.

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by Dominik on Apr 11, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Legality?

Am I the only one wondering about the legality of a league being able to fine people for statements that may well be factually provable? Shouldn’t there be some sort of investigation into the bias in the first place?

by Paumanok on Apr 11, 2011 5:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

But the investigation would be undertaken by the league...

the very body that is called into question.

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Apr 11, 2011 5:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your not the only one

It’s the same with every league, especially when the balance of power is so skewed in favor of the management. The NHLPA needs to step up and start protecting their players just as much as the individual teams.

by IDCWhoYouLike on Apr 11, 2011 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure if it's a good idea when fully thought out

but could or should the NHLPA push for a say in determining suspension due to illegal hits?

by Les Beaver on Apr 11, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

you are using too much logic

stop it at once! the NHL is no place for logic.

by Original Rob on Apr 11, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

My solution...

would be very clear black-and-white rules. Any hit from behind would be at least a minor (just like in international hockey) and ANY hit to the head would warrant a suspension. Each time a player is guilty, the length of the suspension grows. The only exception would be if it appears the “victim” intentionally ran his own head into someone else’s fist (hi, Bruno!). But even this would require an overturn from a board consisting of an NHLPA rep, a League rep, and a rep of the Officials.

But most importantly (and I’ve beaten this war drum before) is to eliminate two roster spots from every team (two new teams can be created to make up the majority of lost NHL jobs, to keep the NHLPA happy) . In that way, you solve two problems:

1) Goons are gone. There would simply be no room for them on the team.
2) The above rules would become that much more glaring. Missing one forward out of twelve might not be so bad. Missing one out of ten would be more difficult to overcome. Players would be forced to adjust.

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Apr 11, 2011 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Why create 2 new teams when 1/3 of the league is struggling financially?

That looks like a far more costly option than what could just be a better policing system.

by Fabtraption on Apr 11, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

It would be better or easier to contract the league down to only playoff teams. Then there’s less reason to treat some teams poorly and other teams like uncrowned gods. This would at least acknowledge the illusion of competition that the league likes to perpetuate.

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Apr 11, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'll never get the NHLPA to agree to smaller rosters

Not without another hugely disastrous lockout. I don’t even know if you’d be able to cut it to 22 instead of 23. And with the league’s players faster and stronger, with the types of injuries they suffer, and with mandatory time-off guidelines for suspected or actual concussions, the team will need those three guys available.

If you want to cut the game roster to 19 or 18 instead of 20, you stand slightly more of a chance, but only slightly. If anything, it may backfire as far as point one is concerned – a team carrying 14 forwards (and using 12 regularly) is probably less inclined to use up one of those two spares on someone whose sole purpose is to throw down. But if you’ve got 14 forwards and FOUR of them are held in reserve, then the goon becomes almost a certainty. You’ve got three other skill guys, right?

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by mikb on Apr 11, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

The other problem is if the league reserves the right to use discretion in terms of suspensions.

Refs also don’t have to call these hits and then the problem persists.

It’s almost as if the NHL needs an independent body to assess its punishment/penalty system, and I’m sure the league wouldn’t agree to that.

The last option is to get the owners to band together and fire Bettman. Once he’s done, the house of cards that his cronies work under blows away.

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Apr 11, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've ofte thought that t would be fun

as a Coach or GM, to get in front of the microphones, haul out the checkbook and sign a blank chack payable to the NHL and then proceed to say, “Here’s the Check, Colie, now this is what I really think……”

If only I was Mark Cuban, or had his bank account.

There's a mountain of buoyant nostalgia under this team and it's going to erupt like Vesuvius when the Islanders are back in playoff contention.... Count on it.

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Apr 11, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

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